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Thread started 07/04/05 3:33pm

LoveAlive

(1995-2005) PRINCE or MESHELL NDEGEOCELLO

Who do you tuink uas put out the better music of the last 10 years? Prince or Meshell? As much as I love Prince, I think Meshell has picked up where Prince left off with THE GOLD EXPERIENCE. Meshell's body of work over the last 10 years have been CONSISTENTLY good. I think the only album(s) that Prince could rank in the league of Meshell would be "The Rainbow Children" and "The Gold Experience" and Disc 3 of "One Night Alone." I was listening to Meshell's latest CD, her jazz offering, and it so surpasses Prince "jazz" CD, "N.E.W.S."
While I will always love Prince and appreciate his artistry, I really think that Meshell has developed into what Prince USED TO BE in the first decade of his career..thoughts plz...

plz no drama..just exchanging ideas and opinions
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Reply #1 posted 07/04/05 3:44pm

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Reply #2 posted 07/04/05 4:07pm

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"MESHELL NDEGEOCELLO"

The only release I have is Peace Beyond Passion and I haven't heard it in years.

I think I'd like to dip my toes in, what should I get?
Don't worry, I can't get pregnant - my ovaries are diseased......
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Reply #3 posted 07/05/05 12:53am

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MetroArea said:

"MESHELL NDEGEOCELLO"

The only release I have is Peace Beyond Passion and I haven't heard it in years.

I think I'd like to dip my toes in, what should I get?

It's too bad you haven't kept up... She's hasn't had a bad album.... Start with her first, Plantation Lullubies and work your way up...
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Reply #4 posted 07/05/05 7:54am

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Exactly!!
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Reply #5 posted 07/05/05 9:16am

Cradams

LoveAlive said:

I was listening to Meshell's latest CD, her jazz offering, and it so surpasses Prince "jazz" CD, "N.E.W.S."


I agree, but I also think that N.E.W.S blew total chunks. I think Me'shell's latest album blows too, but not as bad.

Now 'bitter' is as good as anything P has done in the last ten years, i'll agree with that. wink
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Reply #6 posted 07/05/05 3:27pm

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When "Peace Beyond Passion" came out, I thought the same thing (in 1996). Meshell's last 2 joints are better than the last 4 CD's Prince put out. Meshell has been consistent and she just keeps getting better with her music. All her CDs are great. The last good Prince LP in my book is "S.O.T.T" (although he did redeem himself with "NEWS" and "Musicology"). But in the end, it's all about good music. "NEWS" and "Dance" have been getting back to back plays by me.
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Reply #7 posted 07/05/05 3:48pm

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Both Prince & Me'Shell need to cut that jazz shit out.
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Reply #8 posted 07/05/05 10:56pm

love2thenines

its reallyimpossible to compare this one but.....


1995 - 2005
PRINCE
Gold Experience
Girl 6
Chaos and Disorder
The Vault
New Power Soul
Emancipation
Crystal Ball
Rave 2 the Joy Fantastic
Rainbow Children
One Night Alone -live
NEWS
Musicology

1995 - 2005
MESHELL
Peace Beyond Passion
Bitter
Cookie - the anthropoligical mixtape
Comfort Woman
Dance of the Infidels


Gold Experience, Rainbow Children, Musicology are the only notables out of twelve albums....and u couldnt possibly have a Meshell collection without all 6 albums. could stand as the equivalent of having the first seven prince albums.
Believe me i looooove prince, but meshell wins hands down. every prince experiment, meshell masters.....thoughts anyone?????
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Reply #9 posted 07/05/05 11:16pm

tinababy83

She's TIGHT!! I was listening to 'Comfort Woman' on Rhapsady the others day and was blown away! I'm gonna listen to the others real soon.I'm glad she's around. ~tina
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Reply #10 posted 07/06/05 6:10am

Milty

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i wish ppl would stop calling NEWS jazz. there's hardly any "jazz" on it.
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Reply #11 posted 07/06/05 11:34am

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ahhh...Meshell...Meshell puts the music FIRST.
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Reply #12 posted 07/06/05 11:38am

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1995-2005 are Me'Shell's formative years as a musical artist. Her run during that time is as good as any since Prince's in the 80's, and often as surprising and exciting.

1995-2005 saw Prince on the outs with the industry, the mass audience, and at times, his devoted fans. He made compelling music at times during that period but it was hit and miss. There is no New Power Soul in Me'Shell's resume during that period.
Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016

Props will be withheld until the showing and proving has commenced. -- Aaron McGruder
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Reply #13 posted 07/06/05 1:42pm

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This is a good poser. I am not sure that they can be compared, in the sense that Meshell has Prince as a mentor, I'm sure, but can it be said the other way around.

What is true in both cases, is that they both have the attitude that the Spanish word "atrevete" is about - this word means "go for it", and they do that equally nice.

Prince is more hyper with his musical style, and is more mainstream most DEFONATELY, but Meshell goes in that direction that others like Andre Cymone and TTD went, where they captured the "quirky sexuality" or "bouncy drum machine" technology that he invented and developed.

They have both released one label jazz instrumental album in recent years. For Prince, it's N.E.W.S and for Meshell, it's the newly released "The Spirit Music Jamia: Dance Of the Infidel" They both go in very unique directions, and with Prince, it's more of a chance for him to do free-form jamming that he likes to do, but with Meshell, it's like that, only with a more traditional approach to improv jazz, complete with screaming horns and all.
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Reply #14 posted 07/06/05 1:43pm

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Hands down.....Me'Shell.
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #15 posted 07/06/05 1:44pm

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MetroArea said:

"MESHELL NDEGEOCELLO"

The only release I have is Peace Beyond Passion and I haven't heard it in years.

I think I'd like to dip my toes in, what should I get?


mushy Seriously, I have religious experiences every time I listen to Peace Beyond Passion. It's my fave of hers by far. Get any and everything Each project is excellent.
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #16 posted 07/06/05 1:44pm

prettymansson

meshell gets down heavy BUT..she was learning for over a decade from prince before she even put out one note of music....just my 2 cents....
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Reply #17 posted 07/06/05 2:33pm

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ahhh...Meshell...Meshell puts the music FIRST.

and Prince doesn't?
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Reply #18 posted 07/06/05 2:37pm

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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

sosgemini said:

ahhh...Meshell...Meshell puts the music FIRST.

and Prince doesn't?


IMHO, no....
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Reply #19 posted 07/06/05 2:42pm

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sosgemini said:

DorothyParkerWasCool said:


and Prince doesn't?


IMHO, no....



Ok, I can always count on you for something interesting.
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Reply #20 posted 07/06/05 3:26pm

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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

sosgemini said:



IMHO, no....



Ok, I can always count on you for something interesting.



well, when he stops re-writing I Hate U over and over and meriting it a spot on his albums, then i'll change my opinion....
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Reply #21 posted 07/06/05 3:37pm

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sosgemini said:

DorothyParkerWasCool said:




Ok, I can always count on you for something interesting.



well, when he stops re-writing I Hate U over and over and meriting it a spot on his albums, then i'll change my opinion....


its hard to say....but i agree with u...
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Reply #22 posted 07/06/05 3:47pm

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Maybe we should put this in a different perspective. Let’s take Prince’s first 6 albums and Me’Shell’s first 6.

P
  • For You
  • Prince
  • Dirty Mind
  • Controversy
  • 1999
  • Purple Rain


M
  • Plantation Lullabies
  • Peace Beyond Passion
  • Bitter
  • Cookie, The Anthropological Mix Tape
  • Comfort Woman
  • Dance of the Infidels


Clearly Prince’s first 2 albums are demolished by Me’Shells first 2 attempts. Lyrical content, Me’Shell Wins. Musical content I think Me’shell wins again. Prince didn’t start warming up until Dirty Mind and didn’t have a completely solid experience until 1999, 5th album in. Right out of the gate Me’Shell was giving you serious food for thought. Some will say, and I agree to a small degree that he last 2 efforts are a lot cooler than her first 4. Personally I love love LOVE Comfort Woman and Dance is certainly more focused than Prince’s N.E.W.S.

We’ll see what Me’Shells future holds. She may have just as long a strong streak as Prince had up until Lovesexy. She’s certainly capable of it.
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Reply #23 posted 07/06/05 3:50pm

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Reply #24 posted 07/06/05 4:12pm

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I love Meshell although I've yet to hear Dance of the Infidels (but I dig the title) and I've yet to hear N.E.W.S. She has been great and much more consistent than Prince has been in the past 10 years. However, when prince is on, there's few people's music that can make me (me being the operative word smile ) feel the way his does.
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Reply #25 posted 07/06/05 5:13pm

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If we were comparring Janet Jackson and Me'shell, yes As & Os. Prince and Me'Shell are in much closer leagues nod
Don't Kiss The Beast.....Be Superior at least.

It's Me Supa, ran out of replies again giggle
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Reply #26 posted 07/06/05 8:05pm

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Just got through listening to Dance With the Infidels on Rhapsody today, and that is some incredible mind-blowing jazz. Meshell has definitely benefited from Prince's early workings and made them her own. Plan on getting her complete collection.

Would it be cool to hear Meshell playin bass on a couple of Prince tunes in his band, and vice versa?
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Reply #27 posted 07/06/05 8:11pm

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Housequake2K2 said:

Just got through listening to Dance With the Infidels on Rhapsody today, and that is some incredible mind-blowing jazz. Meshell has definitely benefited from Prince's early workings and made them her own. Plan on getting her complete collection.

Would it be cool to hear Meshell playin bass on a couple of Prince tunes in his band, and vice versa?



you really hear his influence? cause i didnt...neither live or on the disc....
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Reply #28 posted 07/06/05 9:00pm

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sosgemini said:

Housequake2K2 said:

Just got through listening to Dance With the Infidels on Rhapsody today, and that is some incredible mind-blowing jazz. Meshell has definitely benefited from Prince's early workings and made them her own. Plan on getting her complete collection.

Would it be cool to hear Meshell playin bass on a couple of Prince tunes in his band, and vice versa?



you really hear his influence? cause i didnt...neither live or on the disc....


The similarity I felt was whenever I heard her playing bass, it has P-styling to it...not an exact copy but a touch of his influence. In that sense I felt she benefited from some of Prince's earlier work. Otherwise, everything else is her own to me. Listening to it from beginning to end while I was doing stuff around the house, she had me hooked though. I was enjoying the overall vibe of the CD. And that was just from one listen. I know I'm gonna listen to it again later tonite.
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Reply #29 posted 07/07/05 6:51pm

LoveAlive

Would you all say that Meshell is the top female in music now(talent wise)
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