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Thread started 06/19/02 4:48pm

tiger2

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contradiction on "come"

on the album "come". two first lines from two different songs:

"space": i never been one to hide my feelings

"letitgo": all my life i've kept my feelings deep inside



so what do you reckon? discuss.
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Reply #1 posted 06/19/02 4:52pm

HaReMz

oh sweet jesus bring back the general forum
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Reply #2 posted 06/19/02 4:55pm

GoldiesParade

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tiger2 said:

on the album "come". two first lines from two different songs:

"space": i never been one to hide my feelings

"letitgo": all my life i've kept my feelings deep inside

so what do you reckon? discuss.


Never noticed that before. Thats quite funny.
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Reply #3 posted 06/19/02 5:04pm

jnoel

Schizophrenia?
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Reply #4 posted 06/19/02 5:05pm

comeon

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One Word: Gemini
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Reply #5 posted 06/19/02 5:10pm

exodus

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On "Race" Prince declares that "if we never heard about the evil that those before us commited, then how my dear tell me now how now would we know".Saying that predjudice and racism in the past should not be taught to the young, but now he's bringing up the past by stating that Abraham Lincoln was a racist.
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Reply #6 posted 06/19/02 5:27pm

NuPwrSoul

HaReMz said:

oh sweet jesus bring back the general forum


lol lol lol
"That...magic, the start of something revolutionary-the Minneapolis Sound, we should cherish it and not punish prince for not being able to replicate it."-Dreamshaman32
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Reply #7 posted 06/19/02 5:29pm

GoldiesParade

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exodus said:

On "Race" Prince declares that "if we never heard about the evil that those before us commited, then how my dear tell me now how now would we know".Saying that predjudice and racism in the past should not be taught to the young, but now he's bringing up the past by stating that Abraham Lincoln was a racist.


Ahh but not on the same album.
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Reply #8 posted 06/19/02 5:32pm

Paisley

comeon said:

One Word: Gemini

YEP YEP!
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Reply #9 posted 06/19/02 6:08pm

mass

for cryin' out loud he is a song writer which allows him to write in 1st 2nd and 3rd person
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Reply #10 posted 06/19/02 6:42pm

Janeau

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Prince = contradiction
There was a time that he made sense to me, i took his lyrics serious. These days i dont take him serious anymore. I love his music, he is and will be my all time favourite artist. The contradiction made him interresting. Now i dont know anymore...its not interresting to me anymore. Its getting a joke.
free ur mind
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Reply #11 posted 06/19/02 7:20pm

Nothinbutjoy

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Someone's just now figuring out that Prince is all about contradiction? The contradiction goes beyond the lyrics.

Gemini--Yep--Yep--Yep.
I'm firmly planted in denial
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Reply #12 posted 06/19/02 8:33pm

XtrueX

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Prince is the master of saying 1 thing & doing another.
If you can't handle it, I don't suggest being a Prince fan.
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Reply #13 posted 06/19/02 8:46pm

blackwell1

Seems 2 me he's talking about interpersonal relationships on the first song (Space: "I never been one to hide my feelings, but baby you blow my mind.''). It's about a man and a woman and how he feels about her romantically, sexually, etc.
But on the second one he seems to be talking about his relationship with people in general -- being more reserved, shy at times in public, during interviews, etc. (Letitgo: "All my life I've kept my feelings deep inside ...'').
I think there's a bit of a distinction there. ...
But, hey, I could be wrong.

Peace
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Reply #14 posted 06/19/02 9:19pm

chewymusic

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Yes, yes! I had noticed this way back.
Thanx for bringing it up here.
I think I would lean toward the:
"Prince is the master of saying 1 thing & doing another"
mentioned above.
lol lol
"Hyperactive when I was small, Hyperactive now I'm grown, Hyperactive 'till I'm dead and gone"
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Reply #15 posted 06/19/02 10:14pm

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blackwell1 said:

Seems 2 me he's talking about interpersonal relationships on the first song (Space: "I never been one to hide my feelings, but baby you blow my mind.''). It's about a man and a woman and how he feels about her romantically, sexually, etc.
But on the second one he seems to be talking about his relationship with people in general -- being more reserved, shy at times in public, during interviews, etc. (Letitgo: "All my life I've kept my feelings deep inside ...'').
I think there's a bit of a distinction there. ...
But, hey, I could be wrong.

Peace


my thoughts exactly biggrin...i think he is a very private guy and he buries his emotions and thoughts deep within himself, but on the other hand he is one that would profess his love and feelings (feelings he has for his lady) with every chance he got...
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Reply #16 posted 06/19/02 10:24pm

ecnirpnz

I've always felt disconcerted about that contradiction.
It undermines the whole album.

For me, it somewhat reduces the album to 'just a collection of songs from the vault' rather than an introspective offering.

I think it was simply an oversight.


Ecnirpnz
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Reply #17 posted 06/19/02 10:27pm

theC

actually letitgo was a last minute add on 4 the album.
all of the previous versions of the album didn't have it.letitgo was put on as a possible pop radio hit(bad move).
Everything on the album would have been better if it5 were in original form(including dreams the second half of come)
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Reply #18 posted 06/20/02 4:50am

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mass said:

for cryin' out loud he is a song writer which allows him to write in 1st 2nd and 3rd person

ooh, touchy you are..
don't need no reefer, don't need cocaine
purple music does the same to my brain
i'm high, so high
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Reply #19 posted 06/20/02 4:54am

DavidEye

Well,this isn't really a contradiction,but Prince repeats himself on the 'Emancipation' album...


From "Get You Groove On"---"We can party all night long"

From "Sex In The Summer"---"We can party all night long"

He puts that phrase in the chorus of both of those songs.
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Reply #20 posted 06/20/02 5:52am

KeithyT

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Well in Peach, he says "I'm so ugly"

And in Prettyman, he says "tell me that u wanna get with the pretty man"

One minute he thinks he is a minger, the next he is god's gift. What's going on with the guy?!?!?!?!?

wink
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #21 posted 06/20/02 6:00am

herbthe4

"Why settle 4 a star
When U can have the sun?"...

Um...the sun IS a star, isn't it?
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Reply #22 posted 06/20/02 6:18am

KeithyT

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herbthe4 said:

"Why settle 4 a star
When U can have the sun?"...

Um...the sun IS a star, isn't it?
Classic! LOL! Prince really should get Patrick Moore (UK Astronomer) to proof read his lyrics. wink
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #23 posted 06/20/02 6:48am

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blackwell1 said:

Seems 2 me he's talking about interpersonal relationships on the first song (Space: "I never been one to hide my feelings, but baby you blow my mind.''). It's about a man and a woman and how he feels about her romantically, sexually, etc.
But on the second one he seems to be talking about his relationship with people in general -- being more reserved, shy at times in public, during interviews, etc. (Letitgo: "All my life I've kept my feelings deep inside ...'').
I think there's a bit of a distinction there. ...
But, hey, I could be wrong.

Peace


Hey, I agree with you
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Reply #24 posted 06/20/02 7:21am

IstenSzek

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[This message was edited Wed Feb 26 0:49:00 PST 2003 by IstenSzek]
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #25 posted 06/20/02 7:24am

poplife1977

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the Bible is full of contradictions too...it must just be completely warping his mind.
Purple love-amour is all U're in it 4
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Reply #26 posted 06/20/02 7:30am

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[This message was edited Wed Feb 26 0:49:19 PST 2003 by IstenSzek]
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #27 posted 06/20/02 7:32am

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[This message was edited Wed Feb 26 0:49:41 PST 2003 by IstenSzek]
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #28 posted 06/20/02 7:46am

KeithyT

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IstenSzek said:

KeithyT said:

Well in Peach, he says "I'm so ugly"

And in Prettyman, he says "tell me that u wanna get with the pretty man"

One minute he thinks he is a minger, the next he is god's gift. What's going on with the guy?!?!?!?!?

wink



That is actually quite human of himself.
Yes I was joking rolleyes

Both of those moments actually show Prince's sense of humour. Have you seen that moment from the Peach vid? Very funny when he leans across in front of Sonny T. and says that line
Just somewhere in the middle,
Not too good and not too bad.
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Reply #29 posted 06/20/02 7:52am

Universaluv

Ditto on this interpretation.

blackwell1 said:

Seems 2 me he's talking about interpersonal relationships on the first song (Space: "I never been one to hide my feelings, but baby you blow my mind.''). It's about a man and a woman and how he feels about her romantically, sexually, etc.
But on the second one he seems to be talking about his relationship with people in general -- being more reserved, shy at times in public, during interviews, etc. (Letitgo: "All my life I've kept my feelings deep inside ...'').
I think there's a bit of a distinction there. ...
But, hey, I could be wrong.

Peace
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