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ITS LIKE YOU ARE IN A LITTLE FUNK BUBBLE WHEN YOU DO THAT. TRUST ME!! | |
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MadMonkey said: .
I was hoping that I'd be pleasantly surprised after the horror that was TRC...but, hope as much as I might...there is no hope left. I once swore that I'd never buy another one of his albums again...and this travesty just enforces that. The only change is that now, no matter what he oozes out, I won't even give it a chance at all. Thankfully, there's still the WB catalogue for when I want to listen to something worthwhile...well, except for The Vault... - I wonder if you really like(d) Prince´s music. I mean, I agree that it´s not innovative as it was in 87, but it´s still good. ´Everlasting Now´ is pure funk, ´Family Name´ has a great groove and powerful guitars...it´s Prince, like it or not. ´NEWS´ is nice, not great. Just a jam, face it like a jam, don´t expect much from it |
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GIOVANNI said: and as for shake a tail feather its just another old anthem which the radio is OVER POPULATED with them, in every kind of music be it christian , hip hop, pop , give me something new something different give me something like a Herbie Hancock, Quincy Jones , Miles, Stevie Wonder, Production, Give Me a PRINCE production of wonder full sounds and textures stuff I aint heard before, those are the kind ofg MAsters in my collection Give me something a master like prince would make at this timer in his life not what some stale top 40 radio wants to play.
The music I play aint the type of stereo your tryin to feed Dont play me  Glad someone brought up Herbie Hancock. He was an artist that I was going to mention on this thread. Herbie lead a double life as an artist. He would give us great Jazz albums but would also release a more commercial album that same year. I have no problem with Prince putting out stuff like NEWS and Xpectation. I just don't understand why he feels the need to stop putting out more mainstream albums. I somewhat agree with those who think he has little respect for his fan base. He knows what many of us want but just won't give it to us. If a great like Herbie can walk in both worlds why can't Prince? Bringing Together Five Decades of R&B/Funk/Soul/Dance
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ian said: Yes NEWS has some great moments. But they are just moments, and they are moments I'd rather hear as part of an actual song. Just my preference. I find it all rather directionless and indulgent. As I said, I appreciate it for what it is, but I'd enjoy a proper "album" a bit more. - I miss stronger melodies. I wish Prince started to write stronger melodies, that will be remembered. But the jamming is nice. As somebody said, it´s great to listen to in a car |
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Another critic with his finger in his nose, doesn't he know that instrumental music from Prince is much easier for him than writing complete songs. Just because it sounds complex, doesn't mean it comes close to genius. Sure, Prince can fiddle around with the best of them, but if you hear most albums today, especially most R&B albums, being complex is not the problem. Outkast are equally complex, but they take their sound to a different, far reaching level of sound experience. They write clever, ass kicking, and very original songs, while Prince imitates bad Miles Davis. Hell, anyone who would give Najee credibility has to be suspect. NEWS and TRC are just soft jazz snore fests from an artist we all know can do better. We just don't have the nerve to challenge the little runt. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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Where can i get NEWS? | |
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all i can say is:
**What he said** i din't care for TRC's lyrics but the instrumental was vibe-able!! and NEWS just won't frikkin DOWNLOAD... rughRUH ~Live Free ... Be Wyld~AlwaysOnlyMakeBelieve - LiveUrLyfe... laissez le bon temps rouler...vivre sans être sauvage...हमेशा ही बना विश्वास ~Change and do so CONSTANTLY... |
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Thank you Ian! At least someone finally has the balls to challenge this loose definition of "FUNK" and/or "FUNKY". When Prince is truly on the mark, and lets the funk flow, it is self-evident. Songs like 1999, Feel U Up, and Erotic City, while varying greatly in terms of "sound" are all very funky and sound truthful.
I think in recent years, Prince has merely released "textbook" funk on songs like "1+1+1=3" and "Prettyman". Both these sogs sound rather contrived, like he set out to create a funk song. I think Prince has started censoring himself, not only in his lkyrics, but in his musical sound as well. While he used to effortlessly blend genres, he seems to have intentionally write a funk song, or a rock ballad.Instead of his music sounding uninhibited and self-assured, it sounds contrived, and self-indulgent. | |
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intha916 said: If a great like Herbie can walk in both worlds why can't Prince?
- Hmmm...disagree,...he always walked on both worlds...he released instrumental albums like MAdhouse and released all his mainstream albums. That´s why I am expecting a non-instrumental album to come soon. If it will reach the charts, probably not. But I hope it´s good |
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[Snip. Off-topic comment removed. Ian] "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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MadMonkey said: hmmm...the last time I checked, this was an open forum and everyone was allowed to give their two bits...well, I had mine. I certainly am not telling anyone that my words are the gospel and you must heed them. I'm just saying what I feel. If you don't like what I have to say, that's fine...if you agree with me, that's fine too...we're all entitled to our own opinions. But, the one thing that no one should do to anyone else is tell them what to do without any justification. So, don't tell me to stop doing what I enjoy doing, newbie (re: minneapolisgenius)...I've been here a lot longer than you and I intend on staying. I'm not going to tell you what you should do...that's not for me to say. You're more than welcome to take part in any conversation...just the same as I am. And, as it has been said many times in the past...if you don't like what you read, you don't have to read it. It's okay, really...I won't mind at all.
You're funny. 
As well you should be since I am a "newbie" and you've been here "a lot longer" than I have, therefore giving your opinion precedence over mine of course. But since you brought it up, what does that have to do with anything? "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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Just something I don’t understand… (4 Mad Monkey & others)
What is Music about ? I think we must not consider It as a pure product or as a sport… I mean what makes anyone the right 2 say Prince’s music isn’t as good as it was… Or, more, that he could do better ? Nonsense… Prince as a real artist, just explain his feelings, emotions, his mindstate… I mean, it would be stupid from him 2 sound like he used 2, 2 do the same things he did, just because some of his fams want it… It wouldn’t B fair… Un4tunatly, that's the way Music Business takes… It is no more an artistical medium but just "entertainment" and business… Feel happy Prince didn't choose that way… Feel happy some reviews are still doing their job, 2… Peace u'all. Nad | |
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AND who ever was saying he waisted alot of time on "flashy packaging"
HA please it isnt any thing special BUT what it IS is a great example for evryone on what the standard should be . It felt good in my hands when I got it out the plastic now that I think about it even in the plastic it felt like a good vinyl recording I just picked up in my hands. Nothing special just felt good like the cardboard on a record! | |
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MadMonkey said: hmmm...the last time I checked, this was an open forum and everyone was allowed to give their two bits...well, I had mine. I certainly am not telling anyone that my words are the gospel and you must heed them. I'm just saying what I feel. If you don't like what I have to say, that's fine...if you agree with me, that's fine too...we're all entitled to our own opinions. But, the one thing that no one should do to anyone else is tell them what to do without any justification. So, don't tell me to stop doing what I enjoy doing, newbie (re: minneapolisgenius)...I've been here a lot longer than you and I intend on staying. I'm not going to tell you what you should do...that's not for me to say. You're more than welcome to take part in any conversation...just the same as I am. And, as it has been said many times in the past...if you don't like what you read, you don't have to read it. It's okay, really...I won't mind at all.
And...kmc...honestly...I really did try. I tried as hard as I could. But, he's just lost it now. Whatever creativity he had has long since died a quiet death. Which is really quite a shame. I used to be nuts over him. Heck, I used to be (and probably still am) the authority on his music in my hometown. But, his neglegence of the people who made him a star (e.g. the fans, WB, etc.) and his seemingly waning interest in offering the public anything worthwhile have just totally soured anything he does, for me, now. But, wait...a thought just occurred to me... Maybe (since he's such a fan of This Is Spinal Tap), just maybe, he's going all experimental...so he can lose his fanbase, and then come back blazing when he's 50. LOL Sorry, I just couldn't keep a straight face...LOL. It is really stupid to claim he's lost it just because u don't like where he is now. He hasn't lost it. He has lost u. A big difference. It would be nice if u went away and let those who enjoy him enjoy it with u raining on the parade. Take your negativeness somewhere else. please. | |
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I love this album. I really think it is great. I however am not angry with Mad Monkey or anyone else who disagrees with me or the reviewer. Hey half the joy of art and sport is too debate it. Too feel passionate about it and to share those passions. While I agree this site has way too many Prince haters. I still love to engage in open debate about my favorite artist. N.E.W.S is awesome to me and after all this is Prince he will drop another album with vocals and guess what the same debates will occur. You can't please everyone so Prince pleases himself. I think that is very, very smart. Just my opinion. THE CARDINAL HAS SPOKEN!!! | |
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Wheels said: I can't argue with Prince's musical direction...or his ability...or that his music is far superior than common radio play today as far as music/talent/structure/etc goes.
However...is there anyone else out there that would love to hear him slam out a tune like "Shake your tail feathers" and get the radio waves hopin again? We all say/hear that "he could generate radio top 40 hits in his sleep." Maybe he could...but if it was that easy, wouldn't it be fun to have him do it one more time? Could any of the "High" tracks been top 40 hits??? I certainly realize the struggles in doing that with his "freedom" position and all...but just thinking out loud. I feel like u do my friend...Prince can write a pop jam in his sleep but will he PLEASE show the world the MASTER of music he is by doing so.I would love 2 see him smash the Hell out of the industry by kicking all of those non-musical bastards off of the airwaves... | |
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tricky99 said:[quote] MadMonkey said: hmmm...the last time I checked, this was an open forum and everyone was allowed to give their two bits...well, I had mine. I certainly am not telling anyone that my words are the gospel and you must heed them. I'm just saying what I feel. If you don't like what I have to say, that's fine...if you agree with me, that's fine too...we're all entitled to our own opinions. But, the one thing that no one should do to anyone else is tell them what to do without any justification. So, don't tell me to stop doing what I enjoy doing, newbie (re: minneapolisgenius)...I've been here a lot longer than you and I intend on staying. I'm not going to tell you what you should do...that's not for me to say. You're more than welcome to take part in any conversation...just the same as I am. And, as it has been said many times in the past...if you don't like what you read, you don't have to read it. It's okay, really...I won't mind at all.
And...kmc...honestly...I really did try. I tried as hard as I could. But, he's just lost it now. Whatever creativity he had has long since died a quiet death. Which is really quite a shame. I used to be nuts over him. Heck, I used to be (and probably still am) the authority on his music in my hometown. But, his neglegence of the people who made him a star (e.g. the fans, WB, etc.) and his seemingly waning interest in offering the public anything worthwhile have just totally soured anything he does, for me, now. But, wait...a thought just occurred to me... Maybe (since he's such a fan of This Is Spinal Tap), just maybe, he's going all experimental...so he can lose his fanbase, and then come back blazing when he's 50. LOL Sorry, I just couldn't keep a straight face...LOL. It is really stupid to claim he's lost it just because u don't like where he is now. He hasn't lost it. He has lost u. A big difference. It would be nice if u went away and let those who enjoy him enjoy it with u raining on the parade. Take your negativeness somewhere else. please.[/quote It's a bit of a sharp critique but I agree very much. With the release of The Rainbow Children,ONA,Xpectation and now N.E.W.S, Prince has re-established a wonderfully pure musical stride. The music flows without the trickery...we are FORCED to listen to the music and it's mostly very good. Let's enjoy because he's at one of the most musically fruitful periods of his career. | |
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SignOthetimes said: [Snipped. Ian]
Please shut the hell up. (see, I was polite about it) "I saw a woman with major Hammer pants on the subway a few weeks ago and totally thought of you." - sextonseven | |
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It is really stupid to claim he's lost it just because u don't like where he is now. He hasn't lost it. He has lost u. A big difference. It would be nice if u went away and let those who enjoy him enjoy it with u raining on the parade. Take your negativeness somewhere else. please.[/quote
please, don't call people stupid, it's a very stupid thing to do...you fucking assholes.. | |
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news, rainbow children, ona...i don't like them..i don't like the sound, the way they express (maybe don't express)prince's behaviour, the so-called religious bigotry flavour..it's all so FAKE...
Prince IS NOT a spiritual person, spiritual persons normally don't act like he does, look at cat stevens : he heard a god call (wathever it means) and then he RETIRED, putting out some song now and there for benefic.. He didn't open cyberclubs hypes, did't put out poor sound records while claming to be "in a new musical way", did't engaged in selfish battles with the "great white satan" of the majors...HE RETIRED, and simply looked up for god's sake.. prince's art it's not more alive, if it was we wouldnt spend our time asking ourselves "it's this record good, it's bad?"...lovesexy, 1999, gold experience simply left the fans speechless, that's what normally art does.. and in this forum there are too many words spents over what his music actually means.. | |
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Hazel, I feel sorry for you, man. You've got so much hate against Prince and disdain for the people that still like Prince's latest music. It must be really painful .
Let me give you some tips, brother: get a life, leave this forum, go listen to music you like instead of feeling all fucked up about "all that bad music Prince puts out nowadays". I promise you will feel much better within days! PS: maybe you could bring your soulmate EWM with you, I think you two could really use a break from this place... RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time... |
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Hazel, I feel sorry for you, man. You've got so much hate against Prince and disdain for the people that still like Prince's latest music. It must be really painful
you're wrong friend, thre's not hate in my post, please read it carefully..i was just expressing a personal opinion about his new musical way, whic i personally don't like.I know that other people do, but that's not motivation to tell them go out f the forum. i truly thank you for your tips, the only intelligent things of your post and i'll give you some too: try to respect diversity of opinions, race, religion, sexual behaviour..yoo're life will emprove. p.s; who is EWM??? | |
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news, rainbow children, ona...i don't like them..i don't like the sound, the way they express (maybe don't express)prince's behaviour, the so-called religious bigotry flavour..it's all so FAKE...
Prince IS NOT a spiritual person, spiritual persons normally don't act like he does, look at cat stevens : he heard a god call (wathever it means) and then he RETIRED, putting out some song now and there for benefic.. He didn't open cyberclubs hypes, did't put out poor sound records while claming to be "in a new musical way", did't engaged in selfish battles with the "great white satan" of the majors...HE RETIRED, and simply looked up for god's sake.. prince's art it's not more alive, if it was we wouldnt spend our time asking ourselves "it's this record good, it's bad?"...lovesexy, 1999, gold experience simply left the fans speechless, that's what normally art does.. and in this forum there are too many words spents over what his music actually means.. | |
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and please, stop posting racist comments about muslim people...it's not a very fair play.. | |
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would everyone feel a lot better if prince were to release (on a major label) a new album of rock/blues based guitar tunes...all new and original, except for one track, a studio cover version of zep's "whole lotta love," which would be released as the first single and re-establish his mainstream presence on the charts (which it WOULD)??? "Rarr!" | |
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would everyone feel a lot better if prince were to release (on a major label) a new album of rock/blues based guitar tunes...all new and original, except for one track, a studio cover version of zep's "whole lotta love," which would be released as the first single and re-establish his mainstream presence on the charts (which it WOULD)???
personally i would be glad...but a lot of "jehovanewage creepers" wont... | |
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Personnaly, I don’t give a f**k about the message or what the lyrics are about in Prince's music… I don’t think that is his first talent… (is it ?) I didn’t care about the lyrics on Raspberry Beret and I still don’t with The Everlasting Now… But the music rocks so much, and it's the same since many years… In a musical view, P’s music has always grown up… and that’s positive. The best exemple that shows P’s evolution is about his relationships… I mean who can say he has played with a so great band : Maceo, Greg Boyer, Renato Neto, J Blackwell… not talking about Larry Graham, Clinton, Victor Wooten… A such recognition from the other artists can’t be from wrong music…
Hazel, I understand that u may not like P’s message… and I (hardly) understand that u may not like P’s new music. But, artistically, can u explain what u are reproaching to his "new directions in music" ? Can’t say it's bad… As it is not… Prince is absolutelly not a prophete… but still a f**kin' great great musician… can't deny it… Peace | |
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free4love said: The best exemple that shows P’s evolution is about his relationships… I mean who can say he has played with a so great band : Maceo, Greg Boyer, Renato Neto, J Blackwell… not talking about Larry Graham, Clinton, Victor Wooten… A such recognition from the other artists can’t be from wrong music…
- well, playing with great musicians is not a mystery at all. Even Madonna had Omar Hakim. But the difference is that with Prince they are like a BAND, not only musicians in the background. Speaking of Victor Wooten...I know he performed in the Celebration, but someone knows if he and Prince shared the stage? |
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free4love said:
Hazel, I understand that u may not like P’s message… and I (hardly) understand that u may not like P’s new music. But, artistically, can u explain what u are reproaching to his "new directions in music" ? absolutely nothing, in fact his MINE problem if i don't find his music exciting like it used to be in the past.. as a long time fan, i feel very sad about the way Prince choose to express himself nowadays, but is he's music, not mine.. i just would have been very glad if, after all the years of money, time love and devotion spent on him, i would get back the satisfaction of being fan of a musical icon, an aknowledge master with a remastered back catalouge, his films on dvd, periodical issues of rare/unreleased material..just look at what BOWIE is giving to his fans and compare it to wath we get from prince... his got a very peculiar way to show respect to his fans.. | |
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