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Thread started 04/19/03 11:33pm

tookielv

Jill Jones is no relation to Berry Gordy

I been seeing posts of inaccuracy info of Jill being relation to Mr. Gordy.

I have yet encountered info of Jill being a Gordy. But if you have info saying she is one, and Teena Marie's liner cd isn't a relable source, please post it.

Otherwise, Jill Jones mother's was black and father was Italian and that's factual according to her several interviews.

Get educated and check it out here where included additional sites of Jill Jones on the bottom page:

http://members.xoom.virgi...jones.html

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Reply #1 posted 04/20/03 5:11am

DavidEye

The liner notes in Teena's newly remastered 'It Must Be Magic' CD were written by respected journalist A.Scott Galloway.He interviewed Teena herself for these notes.I would say that she is a very "reliable source",wouldn't you? Here is the exact paragraph that pertains to Jill Jones...


"The Ballad of Cradle Rob and Me" is a collaboration between Teena and future Prince protegee' Jill Jones.JILL IS THE DAUGHTER OF WINNIE MARTIN,TEENA'S MANAGER THEN,AND FULLER GORDY,BROTHER OF THE MOTWN FOUNDER.Teena had lived with them for a short time."Jill was like my baby sister",she says."She was in ninth grade when we wrote that---just bein' silly".


It doesn't surprise me one bit that Jill never mentioned this in interviews.Hell,Prince's OWN early interveiws are filled with many lies,half-truths and misinformation...lol...but since Teena herself actually lived with these people for awhile,I think we can pretty much take her word for it.


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Reply #2 posted 04/20/03 9:03am

tookielv

DavidEye said:

The liner notes in Teena's newly remastered 'It Must Be Magic' CD were written by respected journalist A.Scott Galloway.He interviewed Teena herself for these notes.I would say that she is a very "reliable source",wouldn't you? Here is the exact paragraph that pertains to Jill Jones...


"The Ballad of Cradle Rob and Me" is a collaboration between Teena and future Prince protegee' Jill Jones.JILL IS THE DAUGHTER OF WINNIE MARTIN,TEENA'S MANAGER THEN,AND FULLER GORDY,BROTHER OF THE MOTWN FOUNDER.Teena had lived with them for a short time."Jill was like my baby sister",she says."She was in ninth grade when we wrote that---just bein' silly".


It doesn't surprise me one bit that Jill never mentioned this in interviews.Hell,Prince's OWN early interveiws are filled with many lies,half-truths and misinformation...lol...but since Teena herself actually lived with these people for awhile,I think we can pretty much take her word for it.






I hated to say this but Fuller Gordy isn't Jill's real dad, maybe a father figure or Jill considered him to be a dad. Jill's is pretty outspoken about her interviews, I can't say they she tells every truth fact but the interviews I read she said her real dad walked out on her and she was raised by her mother and grandparents. I couldn't imagine of Fuller Gordy would abandoned Jill at a young age but she did said that.
I have more countless interviews and websites biography of Jill's father was Italian. Even her own website used to said that on her bio. And I am pretty sure Jill was the one who done her own bio. Just because A.Scott Galloway interview Ms. Marie he could still misinformed liner notes too, or misunderstood Ms. Marie, it happens. So Davideye, unless you could give another source saying that Jill Jones is a Gordy, I am sticking by what her website said and other interviews of her parentage.
I am aware of Prince's lies but if he wanted her to lied about her parents or then how come she never still mention about what it said on Teena Marie's liner note even after she left him?
So come up with addtional info then I will take it consideration.
EOM




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Reply #3 posted 04/20/03 9:56am

queen627

Jill wanted to make it on her own. It isn't easy being a sibling of someone already in the business. Jill is Teena's sister. You all don't get it. So to not ride the sucess that Teena had she left out some facts. Is that a lie? WB told her to lie. After all Teena was with Motown.Smile. Don't believe everthang you read and by the way Jill is part Portuguese not Italian. Italian was more acceptable racism is still alive in the business. I am interested in the facts Ma'am just the facts. Smile.
sorry if that was over your head...jump up and try to catch the point next time.
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Reply #4 posted 04/20/03 11:35am

DavidEye

queen627 said:

Jill wanted to make it on her own. It isn't easy being a sibling of someone already in the business. Jill is Teena's sister. You all don't get it. So to not ride the sucess that Teena had she left out some facts. Is that a lie? WB told her to lie. After all Teena was with Motown.Smile. Don't believe everthang you read and by the way Jill is part Portuguese not Italian. Italian was more acceptable racism is still alive in the business. I am interested in the facts Ma'am just the facts. Smile.




So Jill and Teena are sisters??

(sigh) I don't know what to believe.
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Reply #5 posted 04/20/03 12:15pm

lovebizzare

DavidEye said:

queen627 said:

Jill wanted to make it on her own. It isn't easy being a sibling of someone already in the business. Jill is Teena's sister. You all don't get it. So to not ride the sucess that Teena had she left out some facts. Is that a lie? WB told her to lie. After all Teena was with Motown.Smile. Don't believe everthang you read and by the way Jill is part Portuguese not Italian. Italian was more acceptable racism is still alive in the business. I am interested in the facts Ma'am just the facts. Smile.




So Jill and Teena are sisters??

(sigh) I don't know what to believe.

well, keep in mind this is coming from a woman who said Jill was only 13 in the '1999' video, and claims she had a child with prince who she isn't allowed to see, and has called Wendy racist, and says Vanity was never with Prince.
~KiKi
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Reply #6 posted 04/20/03 12:17pm

lovebizzare

queen627 said:

Jill wanted to make it on her own. It isn't easy being a sibling of someone already in the business. Jill is Teena's sister. You all don't get it. So to not ride the sucess that Teena had she left out some facts. Is that a lie? WB told her to lie. After all Teena was with Motown.Smile. Don't believe everthang you read and by the way Jill is part Portuguese not Italian. Italian was more acceptable racism is still alive in the business. I am interested in the facts Ma'am just the facts. Smile.

I thought you said they were foster sisters??? Make up your mind, since you seem to know everything
~KiKi
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Reply #7 posted 04/20/03 12:18pm

tookielv

queen627 said:

Jill wanted to make it on her own. It isn't easy being a sibling of someone already in the business. Jill is Teena's sister. You all don't get it. So to not ride the sucess that Teena had she left out some facts. Is that a lie? WB told her to lie. After all Teena was with Motown.Smile. Don't believe everthang you read and by the way Jill is part Portuguese not Italian. Italian was more acceptable racism is still alive in the business. I am interested in the facts Ma'am just the facts. Smile.


WB told whom to lie? Teena Marie was never under WB and Jill was with Paisley Park. Also most record executives wouldn't mind one bit allow the public know their beginner artist happened to be a sibling of established artist that means more fans willing to checkout the new artist. Even if Jill didn't want anyone to know Teena Marie is her'real sister'that decision was final on her record company's publicity office, not hers.
The fact is whether you like it or not Jill is African American ancestry. And as a black woman myself I know through seeing Jill's hair texture on videos and magazines. And where did you read that Teena Marie and Jill were sisters? How can they be sisters where Teena Marie grew up in Santa Monica and Jill in Ohio and Jill said herself she met Teena Marie when she was fifteen when she move to LA with her mother as her mother got the job as Teena's manager.
I still going by based on interviews by Jill and Teena Marie which doesn't mention she isn't related to Berry Gordy or Teena Marie.
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Reply #8 posted 04/20/03 12:30pm

tookielv

lovebizzare said:

DavidEye said:

queen627 said:

Jill wanted to make it on her own. It isn't easy being a sibling of someone already in the business. Jill is Teena's sister. You all don't get it. So to not ride the sucess that Teena had she left out some facts. Is that a lie? WB told her to lie. After all Teena was with Motown.Smile. Don't believe everthang you read and by the way Jill is part Portuguese not Italian. Italian was more acceptable racism is still alive in the business. I am interested in the facts Ma'am just the facts. Smile.




So Jill and Teena are sisters??

(sigh) I don't know what to believe.

well, keep in mind this is coming from a woman who said Jill was only 13 in the '1999' video, and claims she had a child with prince who she isn't allowed to see, and has called Wendy racist, and says Vanity was never with Prince.


I know what you mean Davideye. But I wouldn't consider of someone to be a reliable source either claimed Prince hired a half-dressed thirteen year old standing behind keyboards in front of then twenty-two year old Lisa Coleman.
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Reply #9 posted 04/20/03 12:40pm

lovebizzare

tookielv said:

lovebizzare said:

DavidEye said:

queen627 said:

Jill wanted to make it on her own. It isn't easy being a sibling of someone already in the business. Jill is Teena's sister. You all don't get it. So to not ride the sucess that Teena had she left out some facts. Is that a lie? WB told her to lie. After all Teena was with Motown.Smile. Don't believe everthang you read and by the way Jill is part Portuguese not Italian. Italian was more acceptable racism is still alive in the business. I am interested in the facts Ma'am just the facts. Smile.




So Jill and Teena are sisters??

(sigh) I don't know what to believe.

well, keep in mind this is coming from a woman who said Jill was only 13 in the '1999' video, and claims she had a child with prince who she isn't allowed to see, and has called Wendy racist, and says Vanity was never with Prince.


I know what you mean Davideye. But I wouldn't consider of someone to be a reliable source either claimed Prince hired a half-dressed thirteen year old standing behind keyboards in front of then twenty-two year old Lisa Coleman.
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right,you can't beleive anything this woman says
~KiKi
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Reply #10 posted 04/24/03 2:42pm

Rhondab

queen...ugh wall
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