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Reply #270 posted 05/14/18 7:37am

stlmuziqlvr

That's an idea, rogifan but it would include more than this thread biggrin

rogifan said:

luv4u said:


All ya'all !! Ok people...

its been fun but take all Estate or Investigation discussions to the appropriate threads-forums

Please stay on topic, it ain't hard.

Maybe you should rename this the Prince girlfriend debate thread as that’s what it’s turned into. lol

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Reply #271 posted 05/14/18 7:56am

GoldenParachut
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FlyOnTheWall said:



pinkcashmere23 said:




FlyOnTheWall said:



Has her name come up in the Carver County documents and/or phone records?



Not that I have heard of. She was never mentioned in any reports that I have read.



I guess that pretty much confirms what I've suspected all along: Lala exaggerates and embellishes her association with Prince.

[Edited 5/12/18 7:31am]


It does not take much for you to feel “confirmed” of the lack of importance of other women that were in Prince’s life does it? You’re psychotic. Completely obsessed with Andy Allo. You spend all your time online arguing (I’m sure to andy’s dismay), that she was his soul mate and everyone else was unimportant. It would probably crush your soul to come to the reality that Judith was indeed romantic and Lala had her own separate mailbox filtered from the other women? lol

Why haven’t you been banned yet? No one appreciates the ridiculous amount of time you spend obsessing over andy. No one. You are trying so hard night and day to convince others of your fantasy and it looks like you have snagged a few believers but no one who is an actual adult with a healthy mental state and who has a job is amused.
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Reply #272 posted 05/14/18 8:03am

GoldenParachut
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FlyOnTheWall said:



InThisBedIDream said:


Who's Andy Allo? Never heard of her. hmmm



She's Prince's last confirmed girlfriend. nod


You’re off your hinges.

Andy got left just like every one else. Any publicity was exactly that... publicity. Prince had plenty of private relationships, I am sure, that were not in the spotlight. Perhaps some girls he saw did not have talent, because that was the only way Prince would publicize you. Minus Damaris. But even Damaris was used for publicity and her own popularity. She certainly was not a dancer. We all knew that. Be wise in your observations and look at the girls Prince used in his projects. Most of them had a following already or had an extraordinary beauty (like Lala), or were talented. If you weren’t, he wouldn’t bring you into the public eye. It is VERY probable that he had love interests privately with women no one knows about.
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Reply #273 posted 05/14/18 8:18am

FlyOnTheWall

disch said:

Benni (or anyone) participating in an unlocked thread -- especially one started by a moderator with the title "All These Women Threads," and that specifically says "Yall get this out of your system" -- doesn't really fit any definition of "meddling."

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I know you've been very senitive to the idea that you're on the receiving end of bullying and attempts at "censorship." Maybe just pause for a second and think about that...

FlyOnTheWall said:

And, by the way, a synonym for "busybody" is "meddler," which is exactly what you are doing here: MEDDLING. nod

[Edited 5/12/18 11:05am]

Call it what you will, but when someone comes at me about a thread that I started, and that person can't even get the title of the thread correct...and then tries to tell me that it is misnamed and misleading, when clearly it is not...that, IMHO, falls under the category of outrageous meddling...and trolling. And, that is the nicest name I could think of for it.

In fact, that whole exchange with benni is a perfect example of Prince.org's biggest problem: Orgers who want to tell other orgers how to think...and who want to control the content of what can and cannot be posted here on Prince.org...based on their individual tastes/interests. Moreover, they set out to try to have removed any thread(s) they don't like...and, far too often, they are successful. Thus, the moderators often reward the bullies/troublemakers.

From my viewpoint, as long as it is about Prince's life and music, his entire life and career, and as long as it substantiated and not derogatory, pornographic, slanderous, or defamatory, any topic should be fine. That covers music, tours, fashion, associates, relationships, proteges, social media, activism/politics, films, videos, photos, spirituality, etc.

In the final analysis, Prince was many things to many people. The same should be true for Prince.org.

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Reply #274 posted 05/14/18 8:27am

pinkcashmere23

GoldenParachute said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

She's Prince's last confirmed girlfriend. nod

You’re off your hinges. Andy got left just like every one else. Any publicity was exactly that... publicity. Prince had plenty of private relationships, I am sure, that were not in the spotlight. Perhaps some girls he saw did not have talent, because that was the only way Prince would publicize you. Minus Damaris. But even Damaris was used for publicity and her own popularity. She certainly was not a dancer. We all knew that. Be wise in your observations and look at the girls Prince used in his projects. Most of them had a following already or had an extraordinary beauty (like Lala), or were talented. If you weren’t, he wouldn’t bring you into the public eye. It is VERY probable that he had love interests privately with women no one knows about. [Edited 5/14/18 8:05am]

Andy was the last confirmed girlfriend that accompanied him to a public event so I guess it could be said that she was his last public girlfriend.I happened to like Damaris and what she brought to the band. I think she had a nice presence and is very beautiful.

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Reply #275 posted 05/14/18 8:34am

FlyOnTheWall

GoldenParachute said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I guess that pretty much confirms what I've suspected all along: Lala exaggerates and embellishes her association with Prince.

[Edited 5/12/18 7:31am]

It does not take much for you to feel “confirmed” of the lack of importance of other women that were in Prince’s life does it? You’re psychotic. Completely obsessed with Andy Allo. You spend all your time online arguing (I’m sure to andy’s dismay), that she was his soul mate and everyone else was unimportant. It would probably crush your soul to come to the reality that Judith was indeed romantic and Lala had her own separate mailbox filtered from the other women? lol Why haven’t you been banned yet? No one appreciates the ridiculous amount of time you spend obsessing over andy. No one. You are trying so hard night and day to convince others of your fantasy and it looks like you have snagged a few believers but no one who is an actual adult with a healthy mental state and who has a job is amused.

Was it reported in the Carver County documents that Lala had a separate mailbox? If your claim can be substantiated, that would be pretty convincing to me that she had a substantial relationship with Prince. Just like the reports from THREE Prince insiders who state categorically that Judith Hill was not his girlfriend. I would love to see a link to any such reports about Lala's separate mailbox. Please share.

I have a question, GoldenParachute: Why are you so worried about me? And, why do you want to see me banned? Moreover, why are you consistently bullying me and calling me demeaning names??? This must be what the Salem Witch Hunts were like. rolleyes

Lastly, for the record, I have never once said that Andy was Prince's soulmate and I have never said that any other woman he was involved with was "unimportant." That is how lies start and spread.

Also, speaking of Andy...and on a more positive note...did you see her sing "Nothing More" at her StageIt concert Saturday? I think her latest rendition was even more soulful than usual. Some thought she might run away from singing that song since it was revealed in her leaked love letter that it was inspired by Prince. I'm glad she held her head high, was in good spirits, and belted out her classic ballad.



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Reply #276 posted 05/14/18 8:34am

disch

Did you miss the moderator's comment in post #250?

pinkcashmere23 said:

GoldenParachute said:

FlyOnTheWall said: You’re off your hinges. Andy got left just like every one else. Any publicity was exactly that... publicity. Prince had plenty of private relationships, I am sure, that were not in the spotlight. Perhaps some girls he saw did not have talent, because that was the only way Prince would publicize you. Minus Damaris. But even Damaris was used for publicity and her own popularity. She certainly was not a dancer. We all knew that. Be wise in your observations and look at the girls Prince used in his projects. Most of them had a following already or had an extraordinary beauty (like Lala), or were talented. If you weren’t, he wouldn’t bring you into the public eye. It is VERY probable that he had love interests privately with women no one knows about. [Edited 5/14/18 8:05am]

Andy was the last confirmed girlfriend that accompanied him to a public event so I guess it could be said that she was his last public girlfriend.I happened to like Damaris and what she brought to the band. I think she had a nice presence and is very beautiful.

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Reply #277 posted 05/14/18 8:47am

pinkcashmere23

disch said:

Did you miss the moderator's comment in post #250?

pinkcashmere23 said:

Andy was the last confirmed girlfriend that accompanied him to a public event so I guess it could be said that she was his last public girlfriend.I happened to like Damaris and what she brought to the band. I think she had a nice presence and is very beautiful.

Right! My bad. Back on topic. Bria was the last girlfriend that he took to several public events which was probably why some thought back then that he was going to marry her.

[Edited 5/14/18 9:05am]

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Reply #278 posted 05/14/18 5:08pm

benni

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FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Benni (or anyone) participating in an unlocked thread -- especially one started by a moderator with the title "All These Women Threads," and that specifically says "Yall get this out of your system" -- doesn't really fit any definition of "meddling."

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I know you've been very senitive to the idea that you're on the receiving end of bullying and attempts at "censorship." Maybe just pause for a second and think about that...

Call it what you will, but when someone comes at me about a thread that I started, and that person can't even get the title of the thread correct...and then tries to tell me that it is misnamed and misleading, when clearly it is not...that, IMHO, falls under the category of outrageous meddling...and trolling. And, that is the nicest name I could think of for it.

In fact, that whole exchange with benni is a perfect example of Prince.org's biggest problem: Orgers who want to tell other orgers how to think...and who want to control the content of what can and cannot be posted here on Prince.org...based on their individual tastes/interests. Moreover, they set out to try to have removed any thread(s) they don't like...and, far too often, they are successful. Thus, the moderators often reward the bullies/troublemakers.

From my viewpoint, as long as it is about Prince's life and music, his entire life and career, and as long as it substantiated and not derogatory, pornographic, slanderous, or defamatory, any topic should be fine. That covers music, tours, fashion, associates, relationships, proteges, social media, activism/politics, films, videos, photos, spirituality, etc.

In the final analysis, Prince was many things to many people. The same should be true for Prince.org.


LOL - Actually, I didn't get the title wrong. You can see the very first post I made regarding the thread title, that I typed out every single character, forgive me, but I was NOT going to continue to type out every character after that.

Secondly, I wasn't "coming at you". I was merely pointing out that if thread titles aren't accurately portrayed, then it is not so easy to "just skip it", as the title may show a thread we are interested in, but when we open it, we find a whole other topic being discussed. Not once did I tell you what to think, nor did I say what could or could not be posted on prince.org. I merely said misleading thread titles make just skipping those threads nearly impossible.

But whatever Fly. You seem to like to play the victim when it comes to Andy.

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Reply #279 posted 05/14/18 5:43pm

FlyOnTheWall

benni said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Call it what you will, but when someone comes at me about a thread that I started, and that person can't even get the title of the thread correct...and then tries to tell me that it is misnamed and misleading, when clearly it is not...that, IMHO, falls under the category of outrageous meddling...and trolling. And, that is the nicest name I could think of for it.

In fact, that whole exchange with benni is a perfect example of Prince.org's biggest problem: Orgers who want to tell other orgers how to think...and who want to control the content of what can and cannot be posted here on Prince.org...based on their individual tastes/interests. Moreover, they set out to try to have removed any thread(s) they don't like...and, far too often, they are successful. Thus, the moderators often reward the bullies/troublemakers.

From my viewpoint, as long as it is about Prince's life and music, his entire life and career, and as long as it substantiated and not derogatory, pornographic, slanderous, or defamatory, any topic should be fine. That covers music, tours, fashion, associates, relationships, proteges, social media, activism/politics, films, videos, photos, spirituality, etc.

In the final analysis, Prince was many things to many people. The same should be true for Prince.org.


LOL - Actually, I didn't get the title wrong. You can see the very first post I made regarding the thread title, that I typed out every single character, forgive me, but I was NOT going to continue to type out every character after that.

Secondly, I wasn't "coming at you". I was merely pointing out that if thread titles aren't accurately portrayed, then it is not so easy to "just skip it", as the title may show a thread we are interested in, but when we open it, we find a whole other topic being discussed. Not once did I tell you what to think, nor did I say what could or could not be posted on prince.org. I merely said misleading thread titles make just skipping those threads nearly impossible.

But whatever Fly. You seem to like to play the victim when it comes to Andy.

And, you seem to be unable to admit when you are WRONG. The title is crystal clear: "Oui Can Luv Album Used For Tribute Video :::::: '2 people in love, with nothing but the road ahead...'"

I mean, is the Oui Can Luv album not used for a tribute video called, "2 People in Luv with nothing but the road ahead"? Of course, it is. Thus, anyone with a second-grade reading comprehension level should know what is in store if they make the conscious choice to click on the link. Therefore, I am not going to give you the pleasure of wallowing in the mud with you. That is all. If you want to continue making a fool of yourself, you go right ahead, benni. Peace. peace

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Reply #280 posted 05/14/18 6:20pm

Asenath

benni said:

rogifan said:

Asenath said: It’s not about censoring anything. It’s about not having umpteen different threads about the same person. In the Music & More section threads get locked up and re-directed to existing threads all the time. Why should it be different here?


I know I have posted things in PM&M and have had them locked and redirected to the appropriate thread. But I do think they need two separate boards from bandmembers, associates, collaborators vs ex-girlfriends. The ex-girlfriends get a lot of attention and people have a lot of opinions about them. If they have their own board, then this one can strictly focus on the music/interviews/concerts by associates.

How do you seperate them? Wasn't Jill Jones both? Andy? Shelia E?

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Reply #281 posted 05/14/18 6:21pm

Asenath

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

But by that token: What does it matter if the conversations around certain individual associates are consolidated into one thread per associate? Wouldn't that make it easier for the people who are interested in discussing that person to find each other/follow the conversation, and easier for people who aren't interested to skip past it (similar to the one Death Talk sticky on the PM&M page)?

[Edited 5/11/18 7:31am]

In fact, it's just the opposite. Trying to navigate those LONG sticky threads, often with dozens of pages, is very time-consuming. For that very reason, I seldom frequent the "Death" and "Estate" stickies. It is much easier, IMHO, to follow more narrowly focused threads.

Exactly

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Reply #282 posted 05/14/18 6:42pm

Asenath

206Michelle said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

It has not even been established that JH was sleeping with Prince. I have heard that she stayed at a hotel in Chanhassen while she was working for extended periods at Paisley Park. And, based on the police interview I read, she seemed totally flummoxed when they asked her which side of the bed P slept on. After stumbling over the question, she eventually said that he slept on the side closest to the bathroom. And, we know for sure that when Prince flew her in to attend the Atlanta PAAM show, she told the police that she flew in the night before...and she was driven to her hotel. The more I think about it, that is probably a large part of why the bodyguards and driver say that she was not intimately involved with Prince: apparently, she didn't spend nights at The Park.



[Edited 5/11/18 23:23pm]

I think of Judith Hill as a protegee and companion of Prince's. From what I read of her interview with Carver County police as well as what others (Kirk, Damaris, etc.) have stated, it's unclear whether or not she and Prince were dating because she claims that they were and others claim that they were not. I don't really know what to believe about them being romantically involved, but she certainly was a protegee and companion of his.

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"Romantic relationship" and "girlfriend"/"boyfriend" mean different things to different people. It is possible for two people to be in a romantic relationship/be boyfriend-girlfriend without having a sexual relationship. For example, some couples choose to abstan from sex until marriage due to religious beliefs.

never mind

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Reply #283 posted 05/14/18 6:45pm

benni

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FlyOnTheWall said:

benni said:


LOL - Actually, I didn't get the title wrong. You can see the very first post I made regarding the thread title, that I typed out every single character, forgive me, but I was NOT going to continue to type out every character after that.

Secondly, I wasn't "coming at you". I was merely pointing out that if thread titles aren't accurately portrayed, then it is not so easy to "just skip it", as the title may show a thread we are interested in, but when we open it, we find a whole other topic being discussed. Not once did I tell you what to think, nor did I say what could or could not be posted on prince.org. I merely said misleading thread titles make just skipping those threads nearly impossible.

But whatever Fly. You seem to like to play the victim when it comes to Andy.

And, you seem to be unable to admit when you are WRONG. The title is crystal clear: "Oui Can Luv Album Used For Tribute Video :::::: '2 people in love, with nothing but the road ahead...'"

I mean, is the Oui Can Luv album not used for a tribute video called, "2 People in Luv with nothing but the road ahead"? Of course, it is. Thus, anyone with a second-grade reading comprehension level should know what is in store if they make the conscious choice to click on the link. Therefore, I am not going to give you the pleasure of wallowing in the mud with you. That is all. If you want to continue making a fool of yourself, you go right ahead, benni. Peace. peace

[Edited 5/14/18 18:09pm]


LMAO....I had stopped responding. You had brought it up again when you had no need to. You had already responded to disch's response once before, but apparently this has been bothering you, so you had to go back and respond to it again, and bring up the conversation that ended two pages ago, 2 days ago.

But meh, this conversation isn't worth my time or effort. You obviously wanted to rehash it and I fell for it. Won't do so again.

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Reply #284 posted 05/14/18 6:48pm

benni

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Asenath said:

benni said:


I know I have posted things in PM&M and have had them locked and redirected to the appropriate thread. But I do think they need two separate boards from bandmembers, associates, collaborators vs ex-girlfriends. The ex-girlfriends get a lot of attention and people have a lot of opinions about them. If they have their own board, then this one can strictly focus on the music/interviews/concerts by associates.

How do you seperate them? Wasn't Jill Jones both? Andy? Shelia E?


Very easily, focus on the music, not his sexual involvement with them. If you want to talk about Jill the girlfriend, go the ex-girlfriends forum. If you want to talk about Jill's music, then the collaborators forum. Don't bring relationships into collaborators forum and don't take music to the ex-girlfriends forum. shrug

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Reply #285 posted 05/14/18 6:55pm

Asenath

OldFriends4Sale said:

Asenath said:

So bascially because people don't like the topic, the "powers that be" are now going to dictate what can and can't be discussed on the site? Although throughout various times in his career, Prince presented the persona of a sex symbol, and had women on display to promote this aspect of his persona; it's not to be discussed; and only the music is worthy of a thread? So it's better to censor thoughts and ideas that you may disagree with, then for people to just skip the threads which they find uninteresting/unworthy/stupid?

Read rule #7...you agreed to the rules...we are gods baby lol

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But actually, we never said what is going to happen. How and why did you come to this flame bait conclusion?
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Please tell me where we said we would dictate what can and can't be discussed on the site?
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See THIS is why we have upstart problems on the org. You fabricated a whole mountain out of a mole hill.

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And do an org search on CENSORSHIP, we've discussed this before and sharp Org members have schooled those who cry censorship.
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But again, you fabricated a mountain out of paranoia

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I hope you are not still crying about PNV, she is gone because she wanted to.

I didn't fabricate anything. I'm not going to go tit for tat with you, and respond to your rude, slight digs. My post was framed as questions because you were very unclear with your post regarding "post about the ladies". Because I asked you a question privately, regarding how you responded to someone, in no way means that I am "crying"; what it does do is supply evidence to support my opinion that the way you present your post is unflattering and beneath that of someone with the task of being a moderator. Maybe you should take your own advice and review the rules about not attacking people.

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Reply #286 posted 05/14/18 7:05pm

pinkcashmere23

benni said:

Asenath said:

How do you seperate them? Wasn't Jill Jones both? Andy? Shelia E?


Very easily, focus on the music, not his sexual involvement with them. If you want to talk about Jill the girlfriend, go the ex-girlfriends forum. If you want to talk about Jill's music, then the collaborators forum. Don't bring relationships into collaborators forum and don't take music to the ex-girlfriends forum. shrug

I think that might be a good idea. I suppose the songs written that were perceived to be about a relationship would be discussed in the ex-girlfriends forum.

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Reply #287 posted 05/14/18 7:08pm

disch

That principle is already in place in this site's Music: Non-Prince section, which has these instructions: "Music: Non-Prince is forum to discuss music, albums, tours, songs instruments by musicians entertainers singers (non 'related' to Prince ie (ex)band members (ex)protege members

Any gossip, lifestyle, domestic issues, general discussion of an entertainer musician or singer that isn't about their music, albums, tours, songs, instruments should be posted in the General Discussion section."

pinkcashmere23 said:

benni said:


Very easily, focus on the music, not his sexual involvement with them. If you want to talk about Jill the girlfriend, go the ex-girlfriends forum. If you want to talk about Jill's music, then the collaborators forum. Don't bring relationships into collaborators forum and don't take music to the ex-girlfriends forum. shrug

I think that might be a good idea. I suppose the songs written that were perceived to be about a relationship would be discussed in the ex-girlfriends forum.

[Edited 5/14/18 19:08pm]

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Reply #288 posted 05/14/18 7:12pm

FlyOnTheWall

disch said:

That principle is already in place in this site's Music: Non-Prince section, which has these instructions: "Music: Non-Prince is forum to discuss music, albums, tours, songs instruments by musicians entertainers singers (non 'related' to Prince ie (ex)band members (ex)protege members

Any gossip, lifestyle, domestic issues, general discussion of an entertainer musician or singer that isn't about their music, albums, tours, songs, instruments should be posted in the General Discussion section."

pinkcashmere23 said:

I think that might be a good idea. I suppose the songs written that were perceived to be about a relationship would be discussed in the ex-girlfriends forum.

[Edited 5/14/18 19:08pm]

But, doesn't the description for the "Associated artists & people" forum specify that it is "Talk about ex-bandmembers, ex-girlfriends, etc..."? Just look near the top of this page.

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Reply #289 posted 05/14/18 7:21pm

PennyPurple

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disch said:

That principle is already in place in this site's Music: Non-Prince section, which has these instructions: "Music: Non-Prince is forum to discuss music, albums, tours, songs instruments by musicians entertainers singers (non 'related' to Prince ie (ex)band members (ex)protege members

Any gossip, lifestyle, domestic issues, general discussion of an entertainer musician or singer that isn't about their music, albums, tours, songs, instruments should be posted in the General Discussion section."

[Edited 5/14/18 19:08pm]

BUT the description for the Assoc Artist forum says this:

Associated artists & people

Talk about ex-bandmembers, ex-girlfriends, etc...

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Reply #290 posted 05/14/18 7:41pm

disch

Yes, but the moderators said at in the first post that some change is coming to this section, so some of us are suggesting what kind of changes might work. One idea might be to organize things more like the Music: Non-Prince section. There are other ideas too, to help foster more diverse conversations that extend beyond the current love-life-centric/"I think Prince loved <whoever> the MOSTEST"-type conversations in this section.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

That principle is already in place in this site's Music: Non-Prince section, which has these instructions: "Music: Non-Prince is forum to discuss music, albums, tours, songs instruments by musicians entertainers singers (non 'related' to Prince ie (ex)band members (ex)protege members

Any gossip, lifestyle, domestic issues, general discussion of an entertainer musician or singer that isn't about their music, albums, tours, songs, instruments should be posted in the General Discussion section."

[Edited 5/14/18 19:08pm]

But, doesn't the description for the "Associated artists & people" forum specify that it is "Talk about ex-bandmembers, ex-girlfriends, etc..."? Just look near the top of this page.

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Reply #291 posted 05/14/18 7:58pm

FlyOnTheWall

disch said:

Yes, but the moderators said at in the first post that some change is coming to this section, so some of us are suggesting what kind of changes might work. One idea might be to organize things more like the Music: Non-Prince section. There are other ideas too, to help foster more diverse conversations that extend beyond the current love-life-centric/"I think Prince loved <whoever> the MOSTEST"-type conversations in this section.

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FlyOnTheWall said:

But, doesn't the description for the "Associated artists & people" forum specify that it is "Talk about ex-bandmembers, ex-girlfriends, etc..."? Just look near the top of this page.

Okay...but, how is the Music: Non-Prince section organized any differently than any of the other forums?

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Reply #292 posted 05/14/18 8:12pm

disch

Well, because like this section, Music: Non-Prince focuses on musical people who aren't Prince, but there's a specific rule there that people can only talk about music-related topics; to discuss non-music topics about those artists, orgers are instructed to go elsewhere (in that case, the General Discussion area).

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So I was pointing out, following a discussion here about trying to divide conversations into music and non-music topics, that split has already occurred in the Music: Non-Prince section and it seems to be working there, so perhaps there's some learnings from that section that can be applied to this section.

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Yes, but the moderators said at in the first post that some change is coming to this section, so some of us are suggesting what kind of changes might work. One idea might be to organize things more like the Music: Non-Prince section. There are other ideas too, to help foster more diverse conversations that extend beyond the current love-life-centric/"I think Prince loved <whoever> the MOSTEST"-type conversations in this section.

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Okay...but, how is the Music: Non-Prince section organized any differently than any of the other forums?

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Reply #293 posted 05/14/18 8:19pm

FlyOnTheWall

disch said:

Well, because like this section, Music: Non-Prince focuses on musical people who aren't Prince, but there's a specific rule there that people can only talk about music-related topics; to discuss non-music topics about those artists, orgers are instructed to go elsewhere (in that case, the General Discussion area).

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So I was pointing out, following a discussion here about trying to divide conversations into music and non-music topics, that split has already occurred in the Music: Non-Prince section and it seems to be working there, so perhaps there's some learnings from that section that can be applied to this section.

FlyOnTheWall said:

Okay...but, how is the Music: Non-Prince section organized any differently than any of the other forums?

That might be a good idea...but, chances are the very same Orgers would still be right there, front-and-center, complaining about the content of threads they don't like or about which they are not interested.

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Reply #294 posted 05/14/18 8:31pm

disch

Well I think the "very same orgers" would be intent on bringing in love-life/so-and-so was prince's soul mate/last-confirmed-girlfrend/one-true-love discussion into music-related topics. The very same orgers who have made clear that they view ANY attempt to corral repetitive threads and discussions as a form of censorship. So I think this might end up not being fair to moderators who'd have to try to babysit.

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Just look, with honest eyes, at the posters who are dominating this section with their posts. It's not the people you brand the troublemakers, the meddlers, the busybodies etc. And it's too late at night where I am to argue with you about this, but I'm sure you'll dispute that.

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

Well, because like this section, Music: Non-Prince focuses on musical people who aren't Prince, but there's a specific rule there that people can only talk about music-related topics; to discuss non-music topics about those artists, orgers are instructed to go elsewhere (in that case, the General Discussion area).

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So I was pointing out, following a discussion here about trying to divide conversations into music and non-music topics, that split has already occurred in the Music: Non-Prince section and it seems to be working there, so perhaps there's some learnings from that section that can be applied to this section.

That might be a good idea...but, chances are the very same Orgers would still be right there, front-and-center, complaining about the content of threads they don't like or about which they are not interested.

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Reply #295 posted 05/14/18 8:57pm

FlyOnTheWall

disch said:

Well I think the "very same orgers" would be intent on bringing in love-life/so-and-so was prince's soul mate/last-confirmed-girlfrend/one-true-love discussion into music-related topics. The very same orgers who have made clear that they view ANY attempt to corral repetitive threads and discussions as a form of censorship. So I think this might end up not being fair to moderators who'd have to try to babysit.

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Just look, with honest eyes, at the posters who are dominating this section with their posts. It's not the people you brand the troublemakers, the meddlers, the busybodies etc. And it's too late at night where I am to argue with you about this, but I'm sure you'll dispute that.

FlyOnTheWall said:

That might be a good idea...but, chances are the very same Orgers would still be right there, front-and-center, complaining about the content of threads they don't like or about which they are not interested.

Personally, I sometimes go months at a time without even posting on Prince.org. And, I am not one to regularly initiate threads. The most active threads I've ever had at one time is now: three. I'm not into "forum flooding," which I think can be problematic if not controlled.

And, when I do come onto the Org, I don't bother anyone. I'm not into bullying. Now, that's not to say that I won't defend myself from attacks. But, by-and-large, mine is a peaceful vibe. My goal is not to argue. It never is...but, I'm not going to let others just steamroll me either, as some are wont to do here.

I'm not a musician or a music theorist, so the really technical threads tend to go over my head. I'm drawn to discussions of relationships and culture, particularly during Prince's final years. That's my lane...and I tend to stay in it.

Lastly, I don't think the moderators should be in the business of "babysitting." IMHO, that is part of the problem. I like to think that all Orgers are adults...and they should behave as such...as civil adults. If they can't abide by a "no personal attacks, no name-calling, no bullying" policy, then, they should be shown the exit. Such a no-nonsense policy would make a world of difference around here. But, that just my twocents .

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Reply #296 posted 05/14/18 9:04pm

pinkcashmere23

disch said:

Well I think the "very same orgers" would be intent on bringing in love-life/so-and-so was prince's soul mate/last-confirmed-girlfrend/one-true-love discussion into music-related topics. The very same orgers who have made clear that they view ANY attempt to corral repetitive threads and discussions as a form of censorship. So I think this might end up not being fair to moderators who'd have to try to babysit.

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Just look, with honest eyes, at the posters who are dominating this section with their posts. It's not the people you brand the troublemakers, the meddlers, the busybodies etc. And it's too late at night where I am to argue with you about this, but I'm sure you'll dispute that.

FlyOnTheWall said:

That might be a good idea...but, chances are the very same Orgers would still be right there, front-and-center, complaining about the content of threads they don't like or about which they are not interested.

Discussion of the music of the proteges who were love interests usually shifts to talk of personal relatiionships such as with Judith's recent song Irreplaceable Love and it even happened on one of the Natalya threads as well. Some of the songs on Superconductor for instance are about Prince and the songs that were written together were seemingly about their relationship.In some cases,the line between the professional relationship and the personal is blurred.

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Reply #297 posted 05/15/18 6:06am

poppys

disch said:

Well, because like this section, Music: Non-Prince focuses on musical people who aren't Prince, but there's a specific rule there that people can only talk about music-related topics; to discuss non-music topics about those artists, orgers are instructed to go elsewhere (in that case, the General Discussion area).

What makes sense about throwing Prince's personal associations into General Discussion? General Discussion is just that - general - not Prince related. Are you just trying to dump something into a forum you don't use? Do you ever post in GD?


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Reply #298 posted 05/15/18 6:46am

GoldenParachut
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FlyOnTheWall said:



GoldenParachute said:


FlyOnTheWall said:


I guess that pretty much confirms what I've suspected all along: Lala exaggerates and embellishes her association with Prince.


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It does not take much for you to feel “confirmed” of the lack of importance of other women that were in Prince’s life does it? You’re psychotic. Completely obsessed with Andy Allo. You spend all your time online arguing (I’m sure to andy’s dismay), that she was his soul mate and everyone else was unimportant. It would probably crush your soul to come to the reality that Judith was indeed romantic and Lala had her own separate mailbox filtered from the other women? lol Why haven’t you been banned yet? No one appreciates the ridiculous amount of time you spend obsessing over andy. No one. You are trying so hard night and day to convince others of your fantasy and it looks like you have snagged a few believers but no one who is an actual adult with a healthy mental state and who has a job is amused.

Was it reported in the Carver County documents that Lala had a separate mailbox? If your claim can be substantiated, that would be pretty convincing to me that she had a substantial relationship with Prince. Just like the reports from THREE Prince insiders who state categorically that Judith Hill was not his girlfriend. I would love to see a link to any such reports about Lala's separate mailbox. Please share.

I have a question, GoldenParachute: Why are you so worried about me? And, why do you want to see me banned? Moreover, why are you consistently bullying me and calling me demeaning names??? This must be what the Salem Witch Hunts were like. rolleyes

Lastly, for the record, I have never once said that Andy was Prince's soulmate and I have never said that any other woman he was involved with was "unimportant." That is how lies start and spread.

Also, speaking of Andy...and on a more positive note...did you see her sing "Nothing More" at her StageIt concert Saturday? I think her latest rendition was even more soulful than usual. Some thought she might run away from singing that song since it was revealed in her leaked love letter that it was inspired by Prince. I'm glad she held her head high, was in good spirits, and belted out her classic ballad.





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Why does anything have to be convincing to YOU? Why do you think you are so important that something needs to pass by your judge and jury to be labeled truth? Why is it that you think you have Prince’s love life figured out at all? Because you think you are good at Blues Clues and think Prince left you hints? Do you not see your sickness?

I cannot even read everything you write because it is SO insane.

You have the same tired propaganda insanity of shoving Andy down peoples throats. FOR. MONTHS. You don’t see your unhealthy obsession with her?

What does Andy being so important to Prince do for you? Tell us. Do you live vicariously through Andy?

I believe you will find any reason to argue that your narrative of Prince’s love life is as you see it. You are in a fit of cognitive dissonance and you absolutely refuse to let anyone else persuade you from your fantasy.

I saw you mention bullying in here. Guess what? You are every bit of it.

Tell me, is picking apart other female protégée’s here and tearing them down, without having ANY real truth to grasp but your own guesses and delusions, constitute bullying?

Are they here to defend themselves or give us the truth? Yet you ply away at every angle you can that strictly fits your perspective towards any female associate with Prince if it is suggested they are romantically tied to him.

I have seen you say some pretty AWFUL things about other female associates that were suggested to even have a hint of romance with Prince.
But tell us again how you are the victim, you aren’t a bully and you are a peaceful vibe. lol

You absolutely SHRED any female associate who is not Andy.

Passive aggressively or directly crude.

What makes you think this is going to make people like Andy?


One thing is certain, you are NOT the victim, you are the antagonist.

You are a hypocrite and a fanatic who denies her own obsessive posting.

You actually wrote “I do not come on here for months”. Who are you kidding? lol
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Reply #299 posted 05/15/18 7:09am

poppys


^^ Fly should have one ID. ONE. At least we could all skip over the insanity more easily.


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