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Reply #120 posted 04/08/18 5:23pm

pinkcashmere23

206Michelle said:

pinkcashmere23 said:

Was it 2007 that she was at the show in Vegas and they hugged? I thought it was in 2006.

Yes, 2006...the 2007s were typos, my bad. I fixed my original post.

Ok,cool.I was trying to remember if he had a show there in 2007 I forgot about.lol

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Reply #121 posted 04/08/18 5:30pm

pinkcashmere23

O/T

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Reply #122 posted 04/08/18 5:36pm

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Back to Mayte.


Happy that she is joining the Celebration! Way to go girl!

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Reply #123 posted 04/08/18 5:57pm

206Michelle

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Reply #124 posted 04/08/18 5:59pm

amethyst68

206Michelle said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I concur. After I saw the way Mayte behaved on Hollywood Exes, that told me everything that I needed to know about her. Prince had nothing to do with her for nearly 20-years, and right up until his untimely passing. To me, that speaks in volumes about how he felt about her. When she said "I didn't get any PR money"; well, there ya go!! Look at her behavior "before" and "after Prince's death, and you get what I'm saying here. I don't hate Mayte, but I don't have to like her either. She can easily fool some people, but she's not fooling me. If Prince was just a regular guy, she wouldn't be doing any of this, because she would have nothing to gain. I wish her the best; I really do. I hope she can move on, at some point, for her own sake. Prince will always be her cash cow, sadly. sad

Prince reaped what he sowed. He could have prevented Mayte from going on Hollywood Exes and from auctioning off his possessions if he had offered her a better divorce settlement and allowed her to access some of her possessions at their home in MN...or better yet, by trying to stay true to his marriage vows. If he didn't want to be married to her anymore, he could have been a stand-up guy and divorced her instead of stringing her along with the "annulment", the new house in Spain, and so forth. When he became a famous person, he signed up for the possibility of people going public about him at some point.

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He and Mayte divorced in 2000, before reality TV was a big thing, but once these reality TV shows started to happen with more frequency, he could have had one of his people go to Mayte and offer her money for the possessions from their Marabella home and paid her some money as a preventive measure so that he wouldn't have to worry about her selling his things or going on reality television. He could have afforded to pay her $100,000 a year so she could live comfortably. He was a private person, and if he wanted to keep his business private, he had the means to pay Mayte so that she would keep his business quiet, since one of her biggest assets is that she's Prince's ex-wife.

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Manuela got off very nicely in the divorce, but she also was a business woman and probably more business savvy than Mayte. She also didn't experience the same heartbreak as Mayte had with losing their son as an infant. Plus Mani knew she was dealing with a married man when she started working for prince.

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In addition, as much as I love the man, I believe that he was the major reason why he and Mayte's marriage ended in divorce in the first place. He married Mayte at Park Avenue United Methodist Church, he made his vows. He had his grand plan for married life (p. 175 of The Most Beautiful). He and Mayte encountered their first major bump in the road when they lost Amiir and experienced that unspeakable grief of losing a child, but she wrote in The Most Beautiful that, prior to the end of their marriage when they had frequent arguments, "there was a long stretch before that when I truly believed we'd be all right" (p. 223). She wrote on p. 228 about how they were "reborn to each other" around their first anniversary, February 1997.

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Mayte became pregnant again in the summer of 1997, and then the miscarriage happened in November 1997...and he turned away from her. He had a problem with her having the D & C following the miscarriage when she continued to bleed, and the D & C was a procedure her doctor said was medically necessary (p. 236 of The Most Beautiful). He tells her to let nature take its course, to have faith, that "Larry is always saying ---" (p. 236). He let Larry and his JW beliefs interfere with his marriage.

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prince made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reasons and instead of staying true to his marriage vows, he contrives an "annulment". If he really didn't want to be with Mayte anymore, instead of stringing her along by promising to start a new life with her in Spain and making up the "annulment", be a stand-up guy and divorce her outright.

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He set himself up for Mayte to have to rely on her relationship with him in order to make money by contriving the "annulment" and running off with another woman (Manuela), and then offering her a crappy divorce settlement (the Marabella house and all of its contents). Mayte should have demanded more, but she said she was beat down from the end of their relationship, which I can understand. She was backed into a corner and had no other escape but to divorce him, after she became a stranger in her own home in Minnesota, after the Grahams moved into their guesthouse without prince consulting Mayte, and after he was dating Manuela while still a married man. Mayte never wanted to leave him...Prince backed her into a corner where she had no viable option than to divorce him. She did what she had to do when she initiated the divorce, but he could have handled the situation a whole lot better than he did.

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You're right. Prince did reap what he sowed and he knew it. Manuela wasn't a business woman. She was a college graduate that came to Paisley Park on a wing and a prayer working in the gift shop selling Prince memorabilia. She got what she received in the divorce because she sued Prince for it. Mayte didn't want Prince's money, she wanted her husband. She didn't ask for anything including the house he offered her. Lastly, Manuela wasn't the only woman Prince was fooling around with in the last year of their marriage.

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Reply #125 posted 04/08/18 6:01pm

amethyst68

FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle said:

Mayte wrote him a letter in November 2006. He called her in response to the letter. He invited her to one of his shows during his 3121 Las Vegas Residency in 2006. The show took place on her birthday in November 12, 2006. This is per pages 270-271 of The Most Beautiful.

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Also, on the Dr. Funk podcast from September 14, 2016, Dr. Funk talks about how we wanted to take Mayte to a Prince show in 2011 in LA, but she wouldn't agree to go with Dr. Funk until she spoke with Prince first. He mentions this within the first 20 minutes of the 09/14/2016 podcast.

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So, Mayte is the sole source for the reported phone call? BTW, did she and Dr. Funk ever go to an LA show? Also, was it at the show that he reportedly made Mayte pay to attend where they reportedly hugged?

There is a thread about Mayte's FB post complaining that he made her pay. It's called, "Mayte post on fb about Prince charging her to see him play (now updated with new post by her)." Here's the link: http://prince.org/msg/5/359910. If the link doesn't work, you can cut and paste the URL into your browser.

Mayte attended many of Prince shows throughout the years after their divorce. You may have only heard about the one she tweeted about be she attended many of his shows before and after the tweet so highly publicized by fans.

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Reply #126 posted 04/08/18 6:03pm

amethyst68

FlyOnTheWall said:

amethyst68 said:

There's evidence to the contrary.

Okay. Please cite links to said evidence. Thanks in advance.

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Reply #127 posted 04/08/18 6:05pm

amethyst68

206Michelle said:

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I LOVE this artwork.

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Reply #128 posted 04/08/18 7:24pm

pinkcashmere23

amethyst68 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

So, Mayte is the sole source for the reported phone call? BTW, did she and Dr. Funk ever go to an LA show? Also, was it at the show that he reportedly made Mayte pay to attend where they reportedly hugged?

There is a thread about Mayte's FB post complaining that he made her pay. It's called, "Mayte post on fb about Prince charging her to see him play (now updated with new post by her)." Here's the link: http://prince.org/msg/5/359910. If the link doesn't work, you can cut and paste the URL into your browser.

Mayte attended many of Prince shows throughout the years after their divorce. You may have only heard about the one she tweeted about be she attended many of his shows before and after the tweet so highly publicized by fans.

She said in the interview in Germany recently that she attended a show a few years ago and that she was backstage after the show and he left before they could speak to one another.Did she say if she attended any of the Piano and Microphone shows?

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Reply #129 posted 04/08/18 7:32pm

FlyOnTheWall

amethyst68 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Okay. Please cite links to said evidence. Thanks in advance.

I wouldn't share the brand of toilet tissue I use with most of the people on this forum.

I see. Well, it's a good thing no one asked you to share your toilet tissue brand. Oh, and I guess that means you don't have any links to the non-specific "evidence" you cited to back up your claims.

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Reply #130 posted 04/08/18 7:38pm

206Michelle

amethyst68 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Okay. Please cite links to said evidence. Thanks in advance.

I wouldn't share the brand of toilet tissue I use with most of the people on this forum.

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Reply #131 posted 04/08/18 7:44pm

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I am curious why he didn't just buy her off to keep her off that show. But maybe he was wrapped up in his life and problems, maybe he couldn't face her, maybe he understood that she had a right to talk bout her life as an ex-wife on a talk show but made it clear to keep details about him out of it. Maybe paying her more would be like admitting that he was the real instigator of the divorce. Who knows. Maybe after the divorce, he thought she was doing fine financially what with her new rock star boyfriend. (Tommy Lee is pretty damn rich himself.)


As for saying that she had no choice but to rely on her ex- husbands coattails 15 years after her divorce because he left her no money and forced her into divorce, that's a statement that irks me. Most of us don't have a millionaire's coattails to ride on and most of us can afford babysitters. She should have gotten more money but she is a still a big girl who needs to take care of herself. I take money from my ex in child support but that's because I have two kids to support. If I did't have two kids, I wouldnt be getting money anymore because alimony is limited to a certain amount of time and my ex's legal obligations in terms of alimony are not much.. She has talent, charisma, looks and some insider recognition and connections that weren't just Prince (Tommy Lee for example) ..compared to many rock star ex-wives she didn't get much. Compared to the rest of us, she had a foot in the door. I don't have a problem with her saying that she was hurt he didn't chip in more. I do however think blaming him indirectly because she supposedly couldn't afford a babysitter whilst appearing on her second reality show (she was in one about Tommy Lee as well--)--both of which she didn't do for free obviously-- is kind of ridiculous.

She said she didn't ask for money because she thought they would get back together...after a divorce? And he still offered her a home if my understanding is correct. I agree she should have gotten more in the settlement (and Prince probably should have just offered it without being asked) but I imagine Prince had a hard time believing that his home wouldn't sell in Spain (a famous rock star's house would normally sell) and maybe he thought she wasn't trying hard enough to sell it. Who knows? maybe he was starting to think he was being used for his money in the first place---thus some cracks of his about his motherinlaw and her lack of paying rent on an apartment he set up for her. There are two sides. Prince could be generous when he wanted to be, he wasn't a total cheapskate in all situations in his life.


I don't begrudge her selling his left-over stuff or even joking about his size at times or making fun of the outdated fashions in anytime before the last months of his life, but I don't think auctioning it in March 2016 and then later saying she had been worried about his health since January makes her sound very geniune.


As for Prince not wanting Mayte anymore, the reality is that we don't know entirely what he wanted. We only know from her that he was throwing himself into a religion she wanted no part of. Maybe he still wanted her but the condition was that she had to join his religion. If he was being brainwashed by Larry or had an overzealous conviction to join a religion that he thought could save himself and any future family of his, , his head was obviously in a very shaky place. Maybe he thought there was a chance she would eventually decide on her own to join his faith and their relationship would be hunky-dory but just in case, he had another girl he was spending time with in order to share his faith with (thus the annulment and limbo like condition of their relationship and the'platonic' romantic relationship with Manuela) . Prince had his own version of events and his own perspectives and I imagine his take was quite emotionally complicated. I don't know if he was just feeding her shit or if his reasons for annulment were just so weird and convoluted that they were hard to understand...(maybe he was testing her by setting her free, attempting to make her jealous with that one lady, and if she failed to join his religion on her own to keep him after all that, he would know that they weren't meant to be.) Hard to say. But none of his implies that he didn't love her or even Manuela in his own way. All it implies is that he may have had some issues, was stubborn, possibly insecure and stuck in a delusion. If it is true that P's female associates have heard P go on about Mayte, he obviously loved her and continued to do so. Prince was no saint and could be hurtful but that doesn't give ex wives a free pass forever especially after the man has died and can't defend himself..

amethyst68 said:

206Michelle said:

Prince reaped what he sowed. He could have prevented Mayte from going on Hollywood Exes and from auctioning off his possessions if he had offered her a better divorce settlement and allowed her to access some of her possessions at their home in MN...or better yet, by trying to stay true to his marriage vows. If he didn't want to be married to her anymore, he could have been a stand-up guy and divorced her instead of stringing her along with the "annulment", the new house in Spain, and so forth. When he became a famous person, he signed up for the possibility of people going public about him at some point.

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He and Mayte divorced in 2000, before reality TV was a big thing, but once these reality TV shows started to happen with more frequency, he could have had one of his people go to Mayte and offer her money for the possessions from their Marabella home and paid her some money as a preventive measure so that he wouldn't have to worry about her selling his things or going on reality television. He could have afforded to pay her $100,000 a year so she could live comfortably. He was a private person, and if he wanted to keep his business private, he had the means to pay Mayte so that she would keep his business quiet, since one of her biggest assets is that she's Prince's ex-wife.

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Manuela got off very nicely in the divorce, but she also was a business woman and probably more business savvy than Mayte. She also didn't experience the same heartbreak as Mayte had with losing their son as an infant. Plus Mani knew she was dealing with a married man when she started working for prince.

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In addition, as much as I love the man, I believe that he was the major reason why he and Mayte's marriage ended in divorce in the first place. He married Mayte at Park Avenue United Methodist Church, he made his vows. He had his grand plan for married life (p. 175 of The Most Beautiful). He and Mayte encountered their first major bump in the road when they lost Amiir and experienced that unspeakable grief of losing a child, but she wrote in The Most Beautiful that, prior to the end of their marriage when they had frequent arguments, "there was a long stretch before that when I truly believed we'd be all right" (p. 223). She wrote on p. 228 about how they were "reborn to each other" around their first anniversary, February 1997.

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Mayte became pregnant again in the summer of 1997, and then the miscarriage happened in November 1997...and he turned away from her. He had a problem with her having the D & C following the miscarriage when she continued to bleed, and the D & C was a procedure her doctor said was medically necessary (p. 236 of The Most Beautiful). He tells her to let nature take its course, to have faith, that "Larry is always saying ---" (p. 236). He let Larry and his JW beliefs interfere with his marriage.

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prince made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reasons and instead of staying true to his marriage vows, he contrives an "annulment". If he really didn't want to be with Mayte anymore, instead of stringing her along by promising to start a new life with her in Spain and making up the "annulment", be a stand-up guy and divorce her outright.

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He set himself up for Mayte to have to rely on her relationship with him in order to make money by contriving the "annulment" and running off with another woman (Manuela), and then offering her a crappy divorce settlement (the Marabella house and all of its contents). Mayte should have demanded more, but she said she was beat down from the end of their relationship, which I can understand. She was backed into a corner and had no other escape but to divorce him, after she became a stranger in her own home in Minnesota, after the Grahams moved into their guesthouse without prince consulting Mayte, and after he was dating Manuela while still a married man. Mayte never wanted to leave him...Prince backed her into a corner where she had no viable option than to divorce him. She did what she had to do when she initiated the divorce, but he could have handled the situation a whole lot better than he did.

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You're right. Prince did reap what he sowed and he knew it. Manuela wasn't a business woman. She was a college graduate that came to Paisley Park on a wing and a prayer working in the gift shop selling Prince memorabilia. She got what she received in the divorce because she sued Prince for it. Mayte didn't want Prince's money, she wanted her husband. She didn't ask for anything including the house he offered her. Lastly, Manuela wasn't the only woman Prince was fooling around with in the last year of their marriage.

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Reply #132 posted 04/08/18 7:45pm

206Michelle

amethyst68 said:

206Michelle said:

Prince reaped what he sowed. He could have prevented Mayte from going on Hollywood Exes and from auctioning off his possessions if he had offered her a better divorce settlement and allowed her to access some of her possessions at their home in MN...or better yet, by trying to stay true to his marriage vows. If he didn't want to be married to her anymore, he could have been a stand-up guy and divorced her instead of stringing her along with the "annulment", the new house in Spain, and so forth. When he became a famous person, he signed up for the possibility of people going public about him at some point.

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He and Mayte divorced in 2000, before reality TV was a big thing, but once these reality TV shows started to happen with more frequency, he could have had one of his people go to Mayte and offer her money for the possessions from their Marabella home and paid her some money as a preventive measure so that he wouldn't have to worry about her selling his things or going on reality television. He could have afforded to pay her $100,000 a year so she could live comfortably. He was a private person, and if he wanted to keep his business private, he had the means to pay Mayte so that she would keep his business quiet, since one of her biggest assets is that she's Prince's ex-wife.

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Manuela got off very nicely in the divorce, but she also was a business woman and probably more business savvy than Mayte. She also didn't experience the same heartbreak as Mayte had with losing their son as an infant. Plus Mani knew she was dealing with a married man when she started working for prince.

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In addition, as much as I love the man, I believe that he was the major reason why he and Mayte's marriage ended in divorce in the first place. He married Mayte at Park Avenue United Methodist Church, he made his vows. He had his grand plan for married life (p. 175 of The Most Beautiful). He and Mayte encountered their first major bump in the road when they lost Amiir and experienced that unspeakable grief of losing a child, but she wrote in The Most Beautiful that, prior to the end of their marriage when they had frequent arguments, "there was a long stretch before that when I truly believed we'd be all right" (p. 223). She wrote on p. 228 about how they were "reborn to each other" around their first anniversary, February 1997.

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Mayte became pregnant again in the summer of 1997, and then the miscarriage happened in November 1997...and he turned away from her. He had a problem with her having the D & C following the miscarriage when she continued to bleed, and the D & C was a procedure her doctor said was medically necessary (p. 236 of The Most Beautiful). He tells her to let nature take its course, to have faith, that "Larry is always saying ---" (p. 236). He let Larry and his JW beliefs interfere with his marriage.

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prince made the decision to turn away from Mayte for whatever reasons and instead of staying true to his marriage vows, he contrives an "annulment". If he really didn't want to be with Mayte anymore, instead of stringing her along by promising to start a new life with her in Spain and making up the "annulment", be a stand-up guy and divorce her outright.

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He set himself up for Mayte to have to rely on her relationship with him in order to make money by contriving the "annulment" and running off with another woman (Manuela), and then offering her a crappy divorce settlement (the Marabella house and all of its contents). Mayte should have demanded more, but she said she was beat down from the end of their relationship, which I can understand. She was backed into a corner and had no other escape but to divorce him, after she became a stranger in her own home in Minnesota, after the Grahams moved into their guesthouse without prince consulting Mayte, and after he was dating Manuela while still a married man. Mayte never wanted to leave him...Prince backed her into a corner where she had no viable option than to divorce him. She did what she had to do when she initiated the divorce, but he could have handled the situation a whole lot better than he did.

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You're right. Prince did reap what he sowed and he knew it. Manuela wasn't a business woman. She was a college graduate that came to Paisley Park on a wing and a prayer working in the gift shop selling Prince memorabilia. She got what she received in the divorce because she sued Prince for it. Mayte didn't want Prince's money, she wanted her husband. She didn't ask for anything including the house he offered her. Lastly, Manuela wasn't the only woman Prince was fooling around with in the last year of their marriage.

I stand corrected about Manuela being a businesswoman.

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Regarding Mayte, yes, I agree that she didn't want his money, she wanted to be with him.

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Reply #133 posted 04/08/18 7:53pm

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I guess I don't get it; whether someone likes Prince's women or not, why are people still so invested in ragging on them after all these years...

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Reply #134 posted 04/08/18 8:03pm

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They are in the press now and releasing books now.

purplethunder3121 said:

I guess I don't get it; whether someone likes Prince's women or not, why are people still so invested in ragging on them after all these years...

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Reply #135 posted 04/08/18 8:12pm

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purplerabbithole said:

They are in the press now and releasing books now.

purplethunder3121 said:

I guess I don't get it; whether someone likes Prince's women or not, why are people still so invested in ragging on them after all these years...

That still doesn't explain the enmity that existed BEFORE Prince passed... Dunno--I just don't get it. Life is too short.

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Reply #136 posted 04/08/18 8:17pm

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amethyst68 said:

purplefam99 said:




Yes!!!! A not a peep from Larry G. He is mum, makes him ok in my book.


Larry has done interviews. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. People gripe about certain people speaking about Prince but that’s what fans want to hear. It’s all about keeping his legacy alive. Most fans love hearing stories from people who were close to Prince. I take it that’s why you’re snooping around on a Prince forum, because you want to hear about Prince, the man and the music. Otherwise, log off and go play a CD.

Larry G doesn't need p for anything for a career boost, if you know about music dude is a freakin legend
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Reply #137 posted 04/08/18 8:29pm

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amethyst68 said:



Larry has done interviews. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. People gripe about certain people speaking about Prince but that’s what fans want to hear. It’s all about keeping his legacy alive. Most fans love hearing stories from people who were close to Prince. I take it that’s why you’re snooping around on a Prince forum, because you want to hear about Prince, the man and the music. Otherwise, log off and go play a CD.

Larry G doesn't need p for anything for a career boost, if you know about music dude is a freakin legend



Oh yes I agree and I’m fully aware that LG is a legend.
That is what I don’t get about people thinking LG was ever riding coattails.
He never needed too. Same with Maceo....legend...onstage...gigging... and having fun.
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Reply #138 posted 04/08/18 8:29pm

206Michelle

I didn't say that she had no choice but to ride his coattails.

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I said:

"He set himself up for Mayte to have to rely on her relationship with him in order to make money by contriving the "annulment" and running off with another woman (Manuela), and then offering her a crappy divorce settlement (the Marabella house and all of its contents)."

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"one of her biggest assets is that she's Prince's ex-wife."

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By assets, I'm talking marketability or ways to make money.

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I did not intend to suggest/say that Mayte had no other way to make money than relying on her status as his ex-wife. No, Mayte is talented, intelligent, and quite capable of making a living for herself. However, people get upset about her going on Hollywood Exes and writing her book when Prince didn't, to my knowledge, do much to prevent these situations from occurring. I was really focusing more on Prince that on Mayte when I wrote "He set himself up for...."

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See, Prince can't have it both ways. He can't do his wife dirty by cheating on her and making her feel like a stranger in her own home, give her a flimsy divorce settlement (which she didn't care about because she wanted him, not the divorce), and expect her to go on living her life as though she was never married to him. He was her first love. He wrote in a letter to her in the mid 1990s stating "Eye will never leave u" over 15 times (pp. 134-134, The Most Beautiful). In another letter, he wrote "If they're not your babies, eye ain't havin' none!" (p. 179, The Most Beautiful). He wrote "The One" for her, and asks her to direct the video in 1998, then in the same year, contrives an "annulment" with no legal or religious validity.

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So he set himself up the possibility of Mayte her using her status as his ex-wife. First, he acted in a way (e.g., cheating) that caused her to seek a divorce that she did not want. Then, he didn't offer her much in the divorce settlement and she didn't ask for more because she wanted him and she also felt beat down by the whole situation.

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Due to the cost of selling their house in Spain, she came away from that marriage with very little money. At the time of their divorce, she had spent the previous 9 years or so interacting with him in some way...first as a friend, then as a member of the NPG, muse, girlfriend, fiancee, and/or wife. This doesn't mean she had to use her status as his ex-wife to make money or that she had no choice but to use that status as his ex-wife to her advantage. However, that status as his ex-wife exists...which is why, if he cared so much about his privacy, he could have protected his privacy by paying her to keep quiet.

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purplerabbithole said:

I am curious why he didn't just buy her off to keep her quiet. He could have sued her too. But maybe he was wrapped up in his life and problems, maybe he couldn't face her. Who knows.


As for saying that she had no choice but to rely on her ex- husbands coattails 15 years after her divorce because he left her no money and forced her into divorce, that's a statement that irks me. Most of us don't have a millionaire's coattails to ride on and most of us can afford babysitters. She's a big girl. she should have gotten more in the settlement but I imagine Prince had a hard time believing that his home wouldn't sell in Spain (a famous rock star's house would normally sell) and maybe he thought she wasn't trying hard enough. I don't begrudge her selling his left-over stuff, but I don't think selling it in March 2016 and then later saying she had been worried about his health since January makes her sound very geniune.

As for Prince not wanting Mayte anymore, the reality is that we don't know entirely what he wanted. We only know that he was throwing himself into a religion she wanted no part of. Maybe he still wanted her but the condition was that she had to join his religion. If he was being brainwashed by Larry or had an overzealous conviction to join a religion that he thought could save himself and his wife, , his head was obviously in a very shaky place. Maybe he thought there was a chance she would eventually decide on her own to join his faith and their relationship would be hunky-dory but just in case, he had another girl he was spending time with in order to share his faith with (thus the annulment and 'platonic' romantic relationship with Manuela) . Prince had his own version of events and his own perspectives and I imagine his take was quite emotionally complicated. I don't know if he was just feeding her shit or if his reasons for annulment were just so weird and convolutated that they were hard to understand...(like he was testing her and if she failed to join his religion on her own, he would know that they weren't meant to be.) Hard to say. But none of his implies that he didn't love her or even Manuela in his own way. All it implies is that he probably had some issues, was stubborn, a bit selfish and stuck in a delusion.

amethyst68 said:

You're right. Prince did reap what he sowed and he knew it. Manuela wasn't a business woman. She was a college graduate that came to Paisley Park on a wing and a prayer working in the gift shop selling Prince memorabilia. She got what she received in the divorce because she sued Prince for it. Mayte didn't want Prince's money, she wanted her husband. She didn't ask for anything including the house he offered her. Lastly, Manuela wasn't the only woman Prince was fooling around with in the last year of their marriage.

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Reply #139 posted 04/08/18 8:29pm

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Strawberrylova123 said:

amethyst68 said:
Larry has done interviews. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. People gripe about certain people speaking about Prince but that’s what fans want to hear. It’s all about keeping his legacy alive. Most fans love hearing stories from people who were close to Prince. I take it that’s why you’re snooping around on a Prince forum, because you want to hear about Prince, the man and the music. Otherwise, log off and go play a CD.
Larry G doesn't need p for anything for a career boost, if you know about music dude is a freakin legend

Well aware of who Larry is and what Larry Graham does. Believe it or not, I had one of his albums from the 80s. I was in love with his song "One In A Million" back then. But it's not about needing a career boost, people want to hear more and more about Prince. There is a demand for people close to Prince to share their experiences because not only do people want to hear his music, they want to know about the man. There should be nothing strange about that. It's happened with any famous person who has passed on. It's annoying as hell for people to assume, people just want to make money off his back or they just want to be relevant anytime someone speaks the name of someone who has died.

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Reply #140 posted 04/08/18 8:31pm

206Michelle

purplethunder3121 said:

I guess I don't get it; whether someone likes Prince's women or not, why are people still so invested in ragging on them after all these years...

Exactly! These women all have a place in the Purple Universe because they influenced Prince and his music.

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le

Its all so complicated--people have a myriad of complicated motives for what they do. I loved my grandfather. But if I decided to write a book about him and his early death (and his possible closeted homosexuality) now and got it published and made a ton of money, I would be overjoyed with the money. It doesn't necessarily mean I didn't love my grandfather if something good came out of his death. But I can tell you one thing, I wouldn't release the book on the first anniversary of his death and start auctioning off his stuff three months before his death whilst people were worried about his health and then let headlines implying his more controversial qualities be on the cover of a magazine. And how one decides to "exploit" a loved one's death can say a lot about a person's integrity. However, People have weird ways of justifying their actions, but unless we know them directly it is hard to know entirely what they feel. But irresponsible exploitation does not make them look too loving sometimes.

Strawberrylova123 said:

amethyst68 said:
Larry has done interviews. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. People gripe about certain people speaking about Prince but that’s what fans want to hear. It’s all about keeping his legacy alive. Most fans love hearing stories from people who were close to Prince. I take it that’s why you’re snooping around on a Prince forum, because you want to hear about Prince, the man and the music. Otherwise, log off and go play a CD.
Larry G doesn't need p for anything for a career boost, if you know about music dude is a freakin legend

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purplerabbithole said:

Its all so complicated--people have a myriad of complicated motives for what they do. I loved my grandfather. But if I decided to write a book about him and his early death (and his possible closeted homosexuality) now and got it published and made a ton of money, I would be overjoyed with the money. It doesn't necessarily mean I didn't love my grandfather if something good came out of his death. But I can tell you one thing, I wouldn't release the book on the first anniversary of his death and start auctioning off his stuff three months before his death whilst people were worried about his health and then let headlines implying his more controversial qualities be on the cover of a magazine. And how one decides to "exploit" a loved one's death can say a lot about a person's integrity. However, People have weird ways of justifying their actions, but unless we know them directly it is hard to know entirely what they feel. But irresponsible exploitation does not make them look too loving sometimes.

Strawberrylova123 said:

amethyst68 said: Larry G doesn't need p for anything for a career boost, if you know about music dude is a freakin legend

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Reply #143 posted 04/08/18 8:50pm

206Michelle

Regarding prince becoming a Jehovah's Witness, he was married to Mayte when he became interested in the JW faith. He said his marriage vows, committing himself to be her husband. So, he would need to consider her needs, not just his needs, as she was his wife. That's what he signed up for when he took his marital vows. Since he wanted to become a JW and Mayte did not, he should have been a stand-up guy and divorced her (although divorce is something that the JW faith and most other Christian denominations frown upon), instead of stringing her along with the "annulment" and talk of starting a new life in Spain.

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Personally, I think that her book is, overall, quite loving toward Prince. It's not reasonable to expect her to talk about everything as if it was lollipops and rainbows, because it wasn't. When she wrote about him as a father to Amiir, it's probably the most loving, flattering, magnificent description that anyone has ever written about him. As far as what she wrote about their divorce and the events that led up to it, neither the PRN Estate, nor any of Prince's siblings, have sued her or reprimanded her publicly for writing the book, so the lack of push-back from the Estate and the siblings indicates that what she wrote is, at least, not inaccurate.

purplerabbithole said:

I am curious why he didn't just buy her off to keep her off that show. But maybe he was wrapped up in his life and problems, maybe he couldn't face her, maybe he understood that she had a right to talk bout her life as an ex-wife on a talk show but made it clear to keep details about him out of it. Maybe paying her more would be like admitting that he was the real instigator of the divorce. Who knows. Maybe after the divorce, he thought she was doing fine financially what with her new rock star boyfriend. (Tommy Lee is pretty damn rich himself.)


As for saying that she had no choice but to rely on her ex- husbands coattails 15 years after her divorce because he left her no money and forced her into divorce, that's a statement that irks me. Most of us don't have a millionaire's coattails to ride on and most of us can afford babysitters. She should have gotten more money but she is a still a big girl who needs to take care of herself. I take money from my ex in child support but that's because I have two kids to support. If I did't have two kids, I wouldnt be getting money anymore because alimony is limited to a certain amount of time and my ex's legal obligations in terms of alimony are not much.. She has talent, charisma, looks and some insider recognition and connections that weren't just Prince (Tommy Lee for example) ..compared to many rock star ex-wives she didn't get much. Compared to the rest of us, she had a foot in the door. I don't have a problem with her saying that she was hurt he didn't chip in more. I do however think blaming him indirectly because she supposedly couldn't afford a babysitter whilst appearing on her second reality show (she was in one about Tommy Lee as well--)--both of which she didn't do for free obviously-- is kind of ridiculous.

She said she didn't ask for money because she thought they would get back together...after a divorce? And he still offered her a home if my understanding is correct. I agree she should have gotten more in the settlement (and Prince probably should have just offered it without being asked) but I imagine Prince had a hard time believing that his home wouldn't sell in Spain (a famous rock star's house would normally sell) and maybe he thought she wasn't trying hard enough to sell it. Who knows? maybe he was starting to think he was being used for his money in the first place---thus some cracks of his about his motherinlaw and her lack of paying rent on an apartment he set up for her. There are two sides. Prince could be generous when he wanted to be, he wasn't a total cheapskate in all situations in his life.


I don't begrudge her selling his left-over stuff or even joking about his size at times or making fun of the outdated fashions in anytime before the last months of his life, but I don't think auctioning it in March 2016 and then later saying she had been worried about his health since January makes her sound very geniune.


As for Prince not wanting Mayte anymore, the reality is that we don't know entirely what he wanted. We only know from her that he was throwing himself into a religion she wanted no part of. Maybe he still wanted her but the condition was that she had to join his religion. If he was being brainwashed by Larry or had an overzealous conviction to join a religion that he thought could save himself and any future family of his, , his head was obviously in a very shaky place. Maybe he thought there was a chance she would eventually decide on her own to join his faith and their relationship would be hunky-dory but just in case, he had another girl he was spending time with in order to share his faith with (thus the annulment and limbo like condition of their relationship and the'platonic' romantic relationship with Manuela) . Prince had his own version of events and his own perspectives and I imagine his take was quite emotionally complicated. I don't know if he was just feeding her shit or if his reasons for annulment were just so weird and convoluted that they were hard to understand...(maybe he was testing her by setting her free, attempting to make her jealous with that one lady, and if she failed to join his religion on her own to keep him after all that, he would know that they weren't meant to be.) Hard to say. But none of his implies that he didn't love her or even Manuela in his own way. All it implies is that he may have had some issues, was stubborn, possibly insecure and stuck in a delusion. If it is true that P's female associates have heard P go on about Mayte, he obviously loved her and continued to do so. Prince was no saint and could be hurtful but that doesn't give ex wives a free pass forever especially after the man has died and can't defend himself..

amethyst68 said:

You're right. Prince did reap what he sowed and he knew it. Manuela wasn't a business woman. She was a college graduate that came to Paisley Park on a wing and a prayer working in the gift shop selling Prince memorabilia. She got what she received in the divorce because she sued Prince for it. Mayte didn't want Prince's money, she wanted her husband. She didn't ask for anything including the house he offered her. Lastly, Manuela wasn't the only woman Prince was fooling around with in the last year of their marriage.

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Reply #144 posted 04/08/18 8:57pm

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206Michelle said:

Regarding prince becoming a Jehovah's Witness, he was married to Mayte when he became interested in the JW faith. He said his marriage vows, committing himself to be her husband. So, he would need to consider her needs, not just his needs, as she was his wife. That's what he signed up for when he took his marital vows. Since he wanted to become a JW and Mayte did not, he should have been a stand-up guy and divorced her (although divorce is something that the JW faith and most other Christian denominations frown upon), instead of stringing her along with the "annulment" and talk of starting a new life in Spain.

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Personally, I think that her book is, overall, quite loving toward Prince. It's not reasonable to expect her to talk about everything as if it was lollipops and rainbows, because it wasn't. When she wrote about him as a father to Amiir, it's probably the most loving, flattering, magnificent description that anyone has ever written about him. As far as what she wrote about their divorce and the events that led up to it, neither the PRN Estate, nor any of Prince's siblings, have sued her or reprimanded her publicly for writing the book, so the lack of push-back from the Estate and the siblings indicates that what she wrote is, at least, not inaccurate.

purplerabbithole said:

I am curious why he didn't just buy her off to keep her off that show. But maybe he was wrapped up in his life and problems, maybe he couldn't face her, maybe he understood that she had a right to talk bout her life as an ex-wife on a talk show but made it clear to keep details about him out of it. Maybe paying her more would be like admitting that he was the real instigator of the divorce. Who knows. Maybe after the divorce, he thought she was doing fine financially what with her new rock star boyfriend. (Tommy Lee is pretty damn rich himself.)


As for saying that she had no choice but to rely on her ex- husbands coattails 15 years after her divorce because he left her no money and forced her into divorce, that's a statement that irks me. Most of us don't have a millionaire's coattails to ride on and most of us can afford babysitters. She should have gotten more money but she is a still a big girl who needs to take care of herself. I take money from my ex in child support but that's because I have two kids to support. If I did't have two kids, I wouldnt be getting money anymore because alimony is limited to a certain amount of time and my ex's legal obligations in terms of alimony are not much.. She has talent, charisma, looks and some insider recognition and connections that weren't just Prince (Tommy Lee for example) ..compared to many rock star ex-wives she didn't get much. Compared to the rest of us, she had a foot in the door. I don't have a problem with her saying that she was hurt he didn't chip in more. I do however think blaming him indirectly because she supposedly couldn't afford a babysitter whilst appearing on her second reality show (she was in one about Tommy Lee as well--)--both of which she didn't do for free obviously-- is kind of ridiculous.

She said she didn't ask for money because she thought they would get back together...after a divorce? And he still offered her a home if my understanding is correct. I agree she should have gotten more in the settlement (and Prince probably should have just offered it without being asked) but I imagine Prince had a hard time believing that his home wouldn't sell in Spain (a famous rock star's house would normally sell) and maybe he thought she wasn't trying hard enough to sell it. Who knows? maybe he was starting to think he was being used for his money in the first place---thus some cracks of his about his motherinlaw and her lack of paying rent on an apartment he set up for her. There are two sides. Prince could be generous when he wanted to be, he wasn't a total cheapskate in all situations in his life.


I don't begrudge her selling his left-over stuff or even joking about his size at times or making fun of the outdated fashions in anytime before the last months of his life, but I don't think auctioning it in March 2016 and then later saying she had been worried about his health since January makes her sound very geniune.


As for Prince not wanting Mayte anymore, the reality is that we don't know entirely what he wanted. We only know from her that he was throwing himself into a religion she wanted no part of. Maybe he still wanted her but the condition was that she had to join his religion. If he was being brainwashed by Larry or had an overzealous conviction to join a religion that he thought could save himself and any future family of his, , his head was obviously in a very shaky place. Maybe he thought there was a chance she would eventually decide on her own to join his faith and their relationship would be hunky-dory but just in case, he had another girl he was spending time with in order to share his faith with (thus the annulment and limbo like condition of their relationship and the'platonic' romantic relationship with Manuela) . Prince had his own version of events and his own perspectives and I imagine his take was quite emotionally complicated. I don't know if he was just feeding her shit or if his reasons for annulment were just so weird and convoluted that they were hard to understand...(maybe he was testing her by setting her free, attempting to make her jealous with that one lady, and if she failed to join his religion on her own to keep him after all that, he would know that they weren't meant to be.) Hard to say. But none of his implies that he didn't love her or even Manuela in his own way. All it implies is that he may have had some issues, was stubborn, possibly insecure and stuck in a delusion. If it is true that P's female associates have heard P go on about Mayte, he obviously loved her and continued to do so. Prince was no saint and could be hurtful but that doesn't give ex wives a free pass forever especially after the man has died and can't defend himself..

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Not necessarily. In fact, that is a classic non sequitur. To say that, since the family and/or estate has not sued or pushed back, then what Mayte (or anyone else) wrote must not be inaccurate is just not sound reasoning. Please!

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Reply #145 posted 04/08/18 9:05pm

purplerabbitho
le

You don't need to keep rehashing all his failures as a husband to make your point. But anyone with two eyes could see that Prince was probably not going to be a great success at traditional marriage. No matter how much he wanted to be. He had two women in his life when he and she started to get more serious. yes, she was young, but even an 17 to 22 year old has two eyes. And if she was too naive to see then her parents should have noticed. Plus, his promises to her that he would love her forever were under different circumstances. Anytime people get married, they make vows (like til death do us part) but divorces do happen regardless. He might have felt he found the one he could be faithful with but his weakness got the best of him eventually. He failed. Odds are the hardships of their losses changed the nature of their association and brought out different sides of both him and her. He could not anticipate how he was going to feel down the road or how she might change herself .I am not letting him off the hook He was married and should have been more straight. But the annulment should have been enough for to realize that he was not feeling too confident about the future of their marriage. . She stuck it out in the hopes things would improve. He didn't divorce her right away for the same reason probably. Plus, like Mayte made clear, legally it wasn't a real anulment so he and she still had to get an official divorce. Therefore the annulment wasn't an attempt to cheat her out of a settlement like some have implied. He was alone and unhappy because of his issues and inability to comment to one person--I am not denying that he could be a womanizing little turd. But there are nuances and explanations we are not getting becuase he is not around to tell his side. She can tell her side but I wish people would remember that he had one too..Like someone once said, there is her side, there is his side and then there is the truth--even that statement doesn't cover the psychological reasons people do what they do. Did Prince have any real legal resource for stopping her from releasing the book when he was alive and able to defend his behaviors?? Non-disclosure agreements don't apply do they 20 years after a divorce do they?

Another point I want to make is that I believe that many women endured the cheating because they were vying for top spot and the keys to the kingdom. They wanted the career, the money and man (in varying order of importance.) I think she wanted those things too. Maybe she wanted the man more but she obviously wanted to be an artist and dancer and be on stage herself--otherwise she would have given it up years ago to be a real estate agent who dances on the side.

\206Michelle said:

I didn't say that she had no choice but to ride his coattails.

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I said:

"He set himself up for Mayte to have to rely on her relationship with him in order to make money by contriving the "annulment" and running off with another woman (Manuela), and then offering her a crappy divorce settlement (the Marabella house and all of its contents)."

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"one of her biggest assets is that she's Prince's ex-wife."

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By assets, I'm talking marketability or ways to make money.

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I did not intend to suggest/say that Mayte had no other way to make money than relying on her status as his ex-wife. No, Mayte is talented, intelligent, and quite capable of making a living for herself. However, people get upset about her going on Hollywood Exes and writing her book when Prince didn't, to my knowledge, do much to prevent these situations from occurring. I was really focusing more on Prince that on Mayte when I wrote "He set himself up for...."

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See, Prince can't have it both ways. He can't do his wife dirty by cheating on her and making her feel like a stranger in her own home, give her a flimsy divorce settlement (which she didn't care about because she wanted him, not the divorce), and expect her to go on living her life as though she was never married to him. He was her first love. He wrote in a letter to her in the mid 1990s stating "Eye will never leave u" over 15 times (pp. 134-134, The Most Beautiful). In another letter, he wrote "If they're not your babies, eye ain't havin' none!" (p. 179, The Most Beautiful). He wrote "The One" for her, and asks her to direct the video in 1998, then in the same year, contrives an "annulment" with no legal or religious validity.

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So he set himself up the possibility of Mayte her using her status as his ex-wife. First, he acted in a way (e.g., cheating) that caused her to seek a divorce that she did not want. Then, he didn't offer her much in the divorce settlement and she didn't ask for more because she wanted him and she also felt beat down by the whole situation.

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Due to the cost of selling their house in Spain, she came away from that marriage with very little money. At the time of their divorce, she had spent the previous 9 years or so interacting with him in some way...first as a friend, then as a member of the NPG, muse, girlfriend, fiancee, and/or wife. This doesn't mean she had to use her status as his ex-wife to make money or that she had no choice but to use that status as his ex-wife to her advantage. However, that status as his ex-wife exists...which is why, if he cared so much about his privacy, he could have protected his privacy by paying her to keep quiet.

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purplerabbithole said:

I am curious why he didn't just buy her off to keep her quiet. He could have sued her too. But maybe he was wrapped up in his life and problems, maybe he couldn't face her. Who knows.


As for saying that she had no choice but to rely on her ex- husbands coattails 15 years after her divorce because he left her no money and forced her into divorce, that's a statement that irks me. Most of us don't have a millionaire's coattails to ride on and most of us can afford babysitters. She's a big girl. she should have gotten more in the settlement but I imagine Prince had a hard time believing that his home wouldn't sell in Spain (a famous rock star's house would normally sell) and maybe he thought she wasn't trying hard enough. I don't begrudge her selling his left-over stuff, but I don't think selling it in March 2016 and then later saying she had been worried about his health since January makes her sound very geniune.

As for Prince not wanting Mayte anymore, the reality is that we don't know entirely what he wanted. We only know that he was throwing himself into a religion she wanted no part of. Maybe he still wanted her but the condition was that she had to join his religion. If he was being brainwashed by Larry or had an overzealous conviction to join a religion that he thought could save himself and his wife, , his head was obviously in a very shaky place. Maybe he thought there was a chance she would eventually decide on her own to join his faith and their relationship would be hunky-dory but just in case, he had another girl he was spending time with in order to share his faith with (thus the annulment and 'platonic' romantic relationship with Manuela) . Prince had his own version of events and his own perspectives and I imagine his take was quite emotionally complicated. I don't know if he was just feeding her shit or if his reasons for annulment were just so weird and convolutated that they were hard to understand...(like he was testing her and if she failed to join his religion on her own, he would know that they weren't meant to be.) Hard to say. But none of his implies that he didn't love her or even Manuela in his own way. All it implies is that he probably had some issues, was stubborn, a bit selfish and stuck in a delusion.

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purplefam99 said:

Strawberrylova123 said:


Larry G doesn't need p for anything for a career boost, if you know about music dude is a freakin legend



Oh yes I agree and I’m fully aware that LG is a legend.
That is what I don’t get about people thinking LG was ever riding coattails.
He never needed too. Same with Maceo....legend...onstage...gigging... and having fun.

And both are super funky!!
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Reply #147 posted 04/08/18 9:14pm

purplerabbitho
le

I don't disagree that she had a right to stand her ground about her religious beliefs. I am also glad she stood her ground about medical proceedings (regarding the miscarriage) and that he didn't physically attempt to stop her. Hell, maybe he understood her rights himself but personally and emotionally needed her on board with his beliefs because he became too dependent on them as a coping mechanism... It happens. Do you think he annuled the marriage just because of his religious beliefs or was he just not ready to see her go entirely and hoped she'd eventually give in and join him. I actually think the Greatest Romance that has ever been sold was not intended as a burn at her. I think he thought it would convince her that going along with his plan would ensure a healthy family, healthy births,and a healthy relationship (like saying "Look what you could have if you joined me>" He was probably in pain and trying to find a way to solve a problem he thought God had with him and her. She did state that he thought God had been punishing them after all. People deal with pain differently and these two obviously did. But I don't think its fair to dismiss his actions as just callous without hearing his personal justifications or listening really hard to what he might have been trying to say thorugh his lyrics and confusing philosophies. we should not just assume he was just feeding her load of shit so he could divorce her without pissing off the JW's. He was sincere enough about his beliefs to stay within that religion...I think its obvious he made himself believe that stuff. Prince many years later seemed to loosen up on his beliefs but the death of that kid did change him in many ways for real. He was selfish, sure, but maybe he just figured people were using him for other things (career recognition) so he could be. The catch 22 here is that I suspect Prince was an insecure man who felt he had to have something career wise to offer to women to keep them coming around but unfortunately it meant the very thing that he relied on to get women would be the very thing that would cast doubt on them in his eyes later. Plus, if appearances were all he cared about he would have kept his sexual flirations a bit more private than he did. The man was all kinds of confused it sounds like.

206Michelle said:

Regarding prince becoming a Jehovah's Witness, he was married to Mayte when he became interested in the JW faith. He said his marriage vows, committing himself to be her husband. So, he would need to consider her needs, not just his needs, as she was his wife. That's what he signed up for when he took his marital vows. Since he wanted to become a JW and Mayte did not, he should have been a stand-up guy and divorced her (although divorce is something that the JW faith and most other Christian denominations frown upon), instead of stringing her along with the "annulment" and talk of starting a new life in Spain.

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Personally, I think that her book is, overall, quite loving toward Prince. It's not reasonable to expect her to talk about everything as if it was lollipops and rainbows, because it wasn't. When she wrote about him as a father to Amiir, it's probably the most loving, flattering, magnificent description that anyone has ever written about him. As far as what she wrote about their divorce and the events that led up to it, neither the PRN Estate, nor any of Prince's siblings, have sued her or reprimanded her publicly for writing the book, so the lack of push-back from the Estate and the siblings indicates that what she wrote is, at least, not inaccurate.

purplerabbithole said:

I am curious why he didn't just buy her off to keep her off that show. But maybe he was wrapped up in his life and problems, maybe he couldn't face her, maybe he understood that she had a right to talk bout her life as an ex-wife on a talk show but made it clear to keep details about him out of it. Maybe paying her more would be like admitting that he was the real instigator of the divorce. Who knows. Maybe after the divorce, he thought she was doing fine financially what with her new rock star boyfriend. (Tommy Lee is pretty damn rich himself.)


As for saying that she had no choice but to rely on her ex- husbands coattails 15 years after her divorce because he left her no money and forced her into divorce, that's a statement that irks me. Most of us don't have a millionaire's coattails to ride on and most of us can afford babysitters. She should have gotten more money but she is a still a big girl who needs to take care of herself. I take money from my ex in child support but that's because I have two kids to support. If I did't have two kids, I wouldnt be getting money anymore because alimony is limited to a certain amount of time and my ex's legal obligations in terms of alimony are not much.. She has talent, charisma, looks and some insider recognition and connections that weren't just Prince (Tommy Lee for example) ..compared to many rock star ex-wives she didn't get much. Compared to the rest of us, she had a foot in the door. I don't have a problem with her saying that she was hurt he didn't chip in more. I do however think blaming him indirectly because she supposedly couldn't afford a babysitter whilst appearing on her second reality show (she was in one about Tommy Lee as well--)--both of which she didn't do for free obviously-- is kind of ridiculous.

She said she didn't ask for money because she thought they would get back together...after a divorce? And he still offered her a home if my understanding is correct. I agree she should have gotten more in the settlement (and Prince probably should have just offered it without being asked) but I imagine Prince had a hard time believing that his home wouldn't sell in Spain (a famous rock star's house would normally sell) and maybe he thought she wasn't trying hard enough to sell it. Who knows? maybe he was starting to think he was being used for his money in the first place---thus some cracks of his about his motherinlaw and her lack of paying rent on an apartment he set up for her. There are two sides. Prince could be generous when he wanted to be, he wasn't a total cheapskate in all situations in his life.


I don't begrudge her selling his left-over stuff or even joking about his size at times or making fun of the outdated fashions in anytime before the last months of his life, but I don't think auctioning it in March 2016 and then later saying she had been worried about his health since January makes her sound very geniune.


As for Prince not wanting Mayte anymore, the reality is that we don't know entirely what he wanted. We only know from her that he was throwing himself into a religion she wanted no part of. Maybe he still wanted her but the condition was that she had to join his religion. If he was being brainwashed by Larry or had an overzealous conviction to join a religion that he thought could save himself and any future family of his, , his head was obviously in a very shaky place. Maybe he thought there was a chance she would eventually decide on her own to join his faith and their relationship would be hunky-dory but just in case, he had another girl he was spending time with in order to share his faith with (thus the annulment and limbo like condition of their relationship and the'platonic' romantic relationship with Manuela) . Prince had his own version of events and his own perspectives and I imagine his take was quite emotionally complicated. I don't know if he was just feeding her shit or if his reasons for annulment were just so weird and convoluted that they were hard to understand...(maybe he was testing her by setting her free, attempting to make her jealous with that one lady, and if she failed to join his religion on her own to keep him after all that, he would know that they weren't meant to be.) Hard to say. But none of his implies that he didn't love her or even Manuela in his own way. All it implies is that he may have had some issues, was stubborn, possibly insecure and stuck in a delusion. If it is true that P's female associates have heard P go on about Mayte, he obviously loved her and continued to do so. Prince was no saint and could be hurtful but that doesn't give ex wives a free pass forever especially after the man has died and can't defend himself..

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Reply #148 posted 04/08/18 9:18pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

206Michelle said:

Regarding prince becoming a Jehovah's Witness, he was married to Mayte when he became interested in the JW faith. He said his marriage vows, committing himself to be her husband. So, he would need to consider her needs, not just his needs, as she was his wife. That's what he signed up for when he took his marital vows. Since he wanted to become a JW and Mayte did not, he should have been a stand-up guy and divorced her (although divorce is something that the JW faith and most other Christian denominations frown upon), instead of stringing her along with the "annulment" and talk of starting a new life in Spain.

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Personally, I think that her book is, overall, quite loving toward Prince. It's not reasonable to expect her to talk about everything as if it was lollipops and rainbows, because it wasn't. When she wrote about him as a father to Amiir, it's probably the most loving, flattering, magnificent description that anyone has ever written about him. As far as what she wrote about their divorce and the events that led up to it, neither the PRN Estate, nor any of Prince's siblings, have sued her or reprimanded her publicly for writing the book, so the lack of push-back from the Estate and the siblings indicates that what she wrote is, at least, not inaccurate.

Not necessarily. In fact, that is a classic non sequitur. To say that, since the family and/or estate has not sued or pushed back, then what Mayte (or anyone else) wrote must not be inaccurate is just not sound reasoning. Please!

There are been MANY books written about Prince from people who knew him intimately to people who never met him. Who have you known to write a book about Prince and be sued? He had no grounds to sue her. Furthermore, most of the events mentioned in her book can be confirmed either by others or by things he himself said at the time.

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Reply #149 posted 04/08/18 9:34pm

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Well you inadvertedly kind of made my point. He could not have sued her for writing about their son when he was alive. So, why did she wait until he was dead and unable to defend himself? It makes me a bit cynical.

amethyst68 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Not necessarily. In fact, that is a classic non sequitur. To say that, since the family and/or estate has not sued or pushed back, then what Mayte (or anyone else) wrote must not be inaccurate is just not sound reasoning. Please!

There are been MANY books written about Prince from people who knew him intimately to people who never met him. Who have you known to write a book about Prince and be sued? He had no grounds to sue her. Furthermore, most of the events mentioned in her book can be confirmed either by others or by things he himself said at the time.

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