sorry but Sheila E Wendy & Lisa have performed together for over over 20yrs and I'm talking about outside of Prince.

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Sorry but Sheila E Wendy Melvoin Lisa Coleman Rhonda Smith(NPG) Katt Dyson(NPG) Cassandra(NPG) Susannah Melvoin have performed together many times outside of Prince

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Sheila E only did the BET tribute with the NPG everything else was her band. And she doesn't have to do more with the NPG.

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So if they hangout with people and know them, and that is where they are at right now, that is their business. You wouldn't go see them if they did anyway
Your gripe doesn't make any sense.

purplerabbithole said:

Morris doesn't need to say much when he posts clips of a 2011 concert with Prince singing songs without him on his facebook--songs like "If I was your girlfriend?" . That says it all. when have any revolution member or Sheila done that?? I am not exempting Sheila for being so self-involved in her tributes. But she, at least, works with NPG members in tributes to P...they don't. they only do music they can claim involvement in and avoid all other connections at least in terms of performance..yes, I know they hang out with NPG folks and get along with almost everyone (Jill aside) but I am talking about performance.

OldFriends4Sale said:

It's not generic where he uses that word often. He's talked about Prince's music in other places.
The Time, Morris Day he says funky too. Morris Day doesn't say much either. He's never gone into detail about the shows he's posted on his FB page. One or two words. Why does he have to do more for you

With Sheila E, she's talked about stuff in the same years time (performances) and still no detail. And as much as I want her to sit down and really go there, if she doesn't she doesn't. I'm not judging her. She was there, she lived it.

I don't rememebr if if was after the movie or before, but when they aske Sheila E a question about the PR movie premiere all she could say was "Prince, Prince"

awww you need to go back and talk about Prince being paranoid

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again. None of them owe yo shit

You prance around here being an A.D. April 2016 'fan' acting like you know everything and how these people who were a part of our journey Revolution Sheila E NPG and act like these people you owe you something. Like you, you are doing this for Prince.

What grade is that student in that told you about Prince?

purplerabbithole said:

Bobby Z (who knows the limits of his own ability) has never said shit about P's talent that wasn't mostly complementary..we aren't talking about him or even Dr. Fink (his pre-Prince-death interviews on youtube are complimentary). Eric Leeds stated that P was a great musician but basically dismissed his music. Wendy and Lisa and eric like to remind folks about their superior knowledge of musical culture (or something to that effect.) ...Brown has said more than a few times that he was bored when P did his romance songs and now he cant remember anything from his intimate p and m tour. Some Rev members are more complimentary than others.

Are you seriously saying that I am "mad" at MB because i didn't get to see Prince live with him??? That was pulled out of nowhere and has absolutely no truth to it.

the truth is that I am frigging tired of Purple Rain even though I love the album. I am tired of people acting like the man was a complete has-been before he was forty. maybe commerically Prince was, but the lovers of his talent and art should be mining the vastness of his work for the gems even in albums that are mostly muck (like people on this site often do) , not over-saturating the market with the same songs over and over again. I am not diminishing the importance of those songs to people who lived through them, i get it. But there is too much exploitation of the nostalgia for my taste and I feel oddly sorry for Prince that he has become almost a caricature, a caricature who brings people fond memories of their childhoods and experiences when his music was new. Ageism pisses me off. Even older folks are guilty of it. My parents even do it to the musicians they grew up with...they only like them when they are young. And then the musician dies and people throw out the last 30 years of their lives as if they don't count to recapture the musician's youth and perhaps their own.

Fault finding, you're just looking to pick something a part to be mad at someone because you were not a fan to actually experience Prince when he was alive. there is not other reason for you to be so intently pissed with these people who worked for Prince played with Prince and was friends with Prince, because they are not doing things the way you think is proper.

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You haven't read all the wonderful things they have said about Prince especiall when he was alive. Nor after. Bobby Z said in Possessed, that what he saw in Prince was something he could dedicate his whole life career to. He talked in wonder about watching Prince record music playing the drums and piano. After Prince died he said Prince WAS a musician, everyone else was just playing around.

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I mean what do you want from them? I mean a whole lot of fans look at AD 2016 fans sideways. Do we have that right, to look at johnny come lately's who have so much to say?

I am talking about the Prince post-death tributes that the Revolution thought they were too good to attend.

OldFriends4Sale said:

sorry but Sheila E Wendy & Lisa have performed together for over over 20yrs and I'm talking about outside of Prince.

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Sorry but Sheila E Wendy Melvoin Lisa Coleman Rhonda Smith(NPG) Katt Dyson(NPG) Cassandra(NPG) Susannah Melvoin have performed together many times outside of Prince

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Sheila E only did the BET tribute with the NPG everything else was her band. And she doesn't have to do more with the NPG.

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So if they hangout with people and know them, and that is where they are at right now, that is their business. You wouldn't go see them if they did anyway
Your gripe doesn't make any sense.

purplerabbithole said:

Morris doesn't need to say much when he posts clips of a 2011 concert with Prince singing songs without him on his facebook--songs like "If I was your girlfriend?" . That says it all. when have any revolution member or Sheila done that?? I am not exempting Sheila for being so self-involved in her tributes. But she, at least, works with NPG members in tributes to P...they don't. they only do music they can claim involvement in and avoid all other connections at least in terms of performance..yes, I know they hang out with NPG folks and get along with almost everyone (Jill aside) but I am talking about performance.

They don't owe me shit...but I don't owe them respect if I think their actions suck. Your slamming on me doesn't change the fact that Prince nostalgia of the 80's is what they are marketing and post-Revolution music is what they are completely ignoring.

OldFriends4Sale said:

awww you need to go back and talk about Prince being paranoid

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again. None of them owe yo shit

You prance around here being an A.D. April 2016 'fan' acting like you know everything and how these people who were a part of our journey Revolution Sheila E NPG and act like these people you owe you something. Like you, you are doing this for Prince.

What grade is that student in that told you about Prince?

purplerabbithole said:

Bobby Z (who knows the limits of his own ability) has never said shit about P's talent that wasn't mostly complementary..we aren't talking about him or even Dr. Fink (his pre-Prince-death interviews on youtube are complimentary). Eric Leeds stated that P was a great musician but basically dismissed his music. Wendy and Lisa and eric like to remind folks about their superior knowledge of musical culture (or something to that effect.) ...Brown has said more than a few times that he was bored when P did his romance songs and now he cant remember anything from his intimate p and m tour. Some Rev members are more complimentary than others.

Are you seriously saying that I am "mad" at MB because i didn't get to see Prince live with him??? That was pulled out of nowhere and has absolutely no truth to it.

the truth is that I am frigging tired of Purple Rain even though I love the album. I am tired of people acting like the man was a complete has-been before he was forty. maybe commerically Prince was, but the lovers of his talent and art should be mining the vastness of his work for the gems even in albums that are mostly muck (like people on this site often do) , not over-saturating the market with the same songs over and over again. I am not diminishing the importance of those songs to people who lived through them, i get it. But there is too much exploitation of the nostalgia for my taste and I feel oddly sorry for Prince that he has become almost a caricature, a caricature who brings people fond memories of their childhoods and experiences when his music was new. Ageism pisses me off. Even older folks are guilty of it. My parents even do it to the musicians they grew up with...they only like them when they are young. And then the musician dies and people throw out the last 30 years of their lives as if they don't count to recapture the musician's youth and perhaps their own.

no student told me about Prince. I told them. They didn't know shit about Prince (beyond a few of them knowing Purple Rain songs...and none of them even knew Kiss.) and now all they know is f'ng purple rain songs done by Bruno mars.

OldFriends4Sale said:

awww you need to go back and talk about Prince being paranoid

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again. None of them owe yo shit

You prance around here being an A.D. April 2016 'fan' acting like you know everything and how these people who were a part of our journey Revolution Sheila E NPG and act like these people you owe you something. Like you, you are doing this for Prince.

What grade is that student in that told you about Prince?

purplerabbithole said:

Bobby Z (who knows the limits of his own ability) has never said shit about P's talent that wasn't mostly complementary..we aren't talking about him or even Dr. Fink (his pre-Prince-death interviews on youtube are complimentary). Eric Leeds stated that P was a great musician but basically dismissed his music. Wendy and Lisa and eric like to remind folks about their superior knowledge of musical culture (or something to that effect.) ...Brown has said more than a few times that he was bored when P did his romance songs and now he cant remember anything from his intimate p and m tour. Some Rev members are more complimentary than others.

Are you seriously saying that I am "mad" at MB because i didn't get to see Prince live with him??? That was pulled out of nowhere and has absolutely no truth to it.

the truth is that I am frigging tired of Purple Rain even though I love the album. I am tired of people acting like the man was a complete has-been before he was forty. maybe commerically Prince was, but the lovers of his talent and art should be mining the vastness of his work for the gems even in albums that are mostly muck (like people on this site often do) , not over-saturating the market with the same songs over and over again. I am not diminishing the importance of those songs to people who lived through them, i get it. But there is too much exploitation of the nostalgia for my taste and I feel oddly sorry for Prince that he has become almost a caricature, a caricature who brings people fond memories of their childhoods and experiences when his music was new. Ageism pisses me off. Even older folks are guilty of it. My parents even do it to the musicians they grew up with...they only like them when they are young. And then the musician dies and people throw out the last 30 years of their lives as if they don't count to recapture the musician's youth and perhaps their own.

awww they thought they were too good to attend? No, people wanted them to perform and they said it was too much at the moment. SO fucking what? So again, they have to do what is approving of you?

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That sounds like little girls who attack another girl because they think 'she thinks she is cute'

come ooonnn. You are way too invested in grumping about people you had no knowledge of for all of Prince's career. Get off it.

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What in the hell does this have to do with BrownMark not remembering what you want him to remember @ an Atlanta show you didn't attend, when you weren't even a Prince fan at the time.

purplerabbithole said:

I am talking about the Prince post-death tributes that the Revolution thought they were too good to attend.

OldFriends4Sale said:

sorry but Sheila E Wendy & Lisa have performed together for over over 20yrs and I'm talking about outside of Prince.

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Sorry but Sheila E Wendy Melvoin Lisa Coleman Rhonda Smith(NPG) Katt Dyson(NPG) Cassandra(NPG) Susannah Melvoin have performed together many times outside of Prince

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Sheila E only did the BET tribute with the NPG everything else was her band. And she doesn't have to do more with the NPG.

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So if they hangout with people and know them, and that is where they are at right now, that is their business. You wouldn't go see them if they did anyway
Your gripe doesn't make any sense.

OldFriends4Sale said:

—-You think they were close because the did something back in 1989! Well I will just say we know who the sister was in the relationship after he got mad because Prince did not take him shopping like the girls.

You didn't respect Prince when he was alive. You weren't even a fan. You know of them and any time some post something on them you will be right in there talking shit, teacher. But they don't know you. And your respect or lack will not affect them and the fans.

And because you have little knowledge of Prince's touring career, Prince marketed his 80s music till the end.

purplerabbithole said:

They don't owe me shit...but I don't owe them respect if I think their actions suck. Your slamming on me doesn't change the fact that Prince nostalgia of the 80's is what they are marketing and post-Revolution music is what they are completely ignoring.

OldFriends4Sale said:

awww you need to go back and talk about Prince being paranoid

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again. None of them owe yo shit

You prance around here being an A.D. April 2016 'fan' acting like you know everything and how these people who were a part of our journey Revolution Sheila E NPG and act like these people you owe you something. Like you, you are doing this for Prince.

What grade is that student in that told you about Prince?

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

—-You think they were close because the did something back in 1989! Well I will just say we know who the sister was in the relationship after he got mad because Prince did not take him shopping like the girls.

go somewhere, you're sexist

uh huh, you keep telling on yourself

Remember when You were swetting me and came for me saying you were reading all my past post and thought you were going to try to check me? You told me you were not a Prince fan prior to his death. You told me it was a student in your 'class' that opened you up to Prince.

Yeah, I got your #

purplerabbithole said:

no student told me about Prince. I told them. They didn't know shit about Prince (beyond a few of them knowing Purple Rain songs...and none of them even knew Kiss.) and now all they know is f'ng purple rain songs done by Bruno mars.

OldFriends4Sale said:

awww you need to go back and talk about Prince being paranoid

I've said it before and I'm going to say it again. None of them owe yo shit

You prance around here being an A.D. April 2016 'fan' acting like you know everything and how these people who were a part of our journey Revolution Sheila E NPG and act like these people you owe you something. Like you, you are doing this for Prince.

What grade is that student in that told you about Prince?

Strawman argument again. Its funny that you keep claiming that I don't know shit because I haven't been a fan for 30years but then you just resort back to fair-weather, jump-on-the-bandwagon insults instead of just dismissing with the actual facts themselves. Yes, you know more and I never claim otherwise and if I get a fact wrong I will admit it but I think older fans/younger fan pissing contests are stupid.

OldFriends4Sale said:

awww they thought they were too good to attend? No, people wanted them to perform and they said it was too much at the moment. SO fucking what? So again, they have to do what is approving of you?

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That sounds like little girls who attack another girl because they think 'she thinks she is cute'

come ooonnn. You are way too invested in grumping about people you had no knowledge of for all of Prince's career. Get off it.

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What in the hell does this have to do with BrownMark not remembering what you want him to remember @ an Atlanta show you didn't attend, when you weren't even a Prince fan at the time.

purplerabbithole said:

I am talking about the Prince post-death tributes that the Revolution thought they were too good to attend.

Yep and i still remember what you told me, now you are changing your story

purplerabbithole said:

Strawman argument again. Its funny that you keep claiming that I don't know shit because I haven't been a fan for 30years but then you just resort back to fair-weather, jump-on-the-bandwagon insults instead of just dismissing with the actual facts themselves. Yes, you know more and I never claim otherwise and if I get a fact wrong I will admit it but I think older fans/younger fan pissing contests are stupid.

OldFriends4Sale said:

awww they thought they were too good to attend? No, people wanted them to perform and they said it was too much at the moment. SO fucking what? So again, they have to do what is approving of you?

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That sounds like little girls who attack another girl because they think 'she thinks she is cute'

come ooonnn. You are way too invested in grumping about people you had no knowledge of for all of Prince's career. Get off it.

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What in the hell does this have to do with BrownMark not remembering what you want him to remember @ an Atlanta show you didn't attend, when you weren't even a Prince fan at the time.

You need to check your memory or understanding.. I never said that. You won't find a post that said that. I said I saw P in the superbowl and started talking to my students about him after he died.. A few of them knew who he was, one girl said she saw Purple rain the night before...none of them knew as much as I did.. becuase they were 15. I was 39. Before he died, I knew Cream, Kiss, Purple Rain, Little red Corvette, 1999, When Doves Cry, U got the look, trust, nothing compares to u, diamonds and pearls, Partyman, 7, thieves in the temple, Sugar Walls, Glamourous life, and raspberry beret (and probably more) . I don't think the kids knew anything more than When Doves Cry and Purple Rain. I told them about Kiss. a couple of them did express sadness over another black icon dying but I am not sure how many songs they knew. Talking about him with them encouraged me to learn more of his music, but I knew his hit songs like most people of my generation.

Also, in addition, I remember (stupidly) saying at the time in 2016 in class that Prince was the cooler Michael Jackson. Stupid thing to say because the comparision is lame but even at the time, I remembered Prince fondly, but I was a casual fan at most. the conversation did make me nostalgic but it turned into a deeper appreciation I didn't anticipate.

I am sorry I insulted you by insulting the Revolution. here's the deal. I really hope my instincts are wrong. disagree all you want. but keep it to the facts please. Also, I guess I do resent that the Revolution members seem sanctified by you. No one can criticize them even a little bit..that does seem biased heavily in their favor.

OldFriends4Sale said:

uh huh, you keep telling on yourself

Remember when You were swetting me and came for me saying you were reading all my past post and thought you were going to try to check me? You told me you were not a Prince fan prior to his death. You told me it was a student in your 'class' that opened you up to Prince.

Yeah, I got your #

purplerabbithole said:

no student told me about Prince. I told them. They didn't know shit about Prince (beyond a few of them knowing Purple Rain songs...and none of them even knew Kiss.) and now all they know is f'ng purple rain songs done by Bruno mars.

[Edited 1/23/18 20:17pm]

Scratch...misread your post. can't delete.

Maybe it was too much like they said. But they announced a tour four days after he died. One could argue that they needed to start rehearsing.

OldFriends4Sale said:

awww they thought they were too good to attend? No, people wanted them to perform and they said it was too much at the moment. SO fucking what? So again, they have to do what is approving of you?

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That sounds like little girls who attack another girl because they think 'she thinks she is cute'

come ooonnn. You are way too invested in grumping about people you had no knowledge of for all of Prince's career. Get off it.

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What in the hell does this have to do with BrownMark not remembering what you want him to remember @ an Atlanta show you didn't attend, when you weren't even a Prince fan at the time.

purplerabbithole said:

I am talking about the Prince post-death tributes that the Revolution thought they were too good to attend.

[Edited 1/23/18 20:33pm]

I didn't respect Prince?? How would you know? I didn't know Prince beyond the hits. I don't know the music of Bruce Springsteen beyond the hits -- it doesn't mean I don['t respect him. i didn't know where to start where Prince was concerned whilst he was alive. His stuff was hard to find...remember. Another thing--I remember comparing the most beautiful girl in the world to this song..below..when i was a sinatra fanatic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3cTZEe2hvc

The Revolution are doing just fine and probably don't need you to defend them constantly either. prince has taken bigger hits on here.

OldFriends4Sale said:

You didn't respect Prince when he was alive. You weren't even a fan. You know of them and any time some post something on them you will be right in there talking shit, teacher. But they don't know you. And your respect or lack will not affect them and the fans.

And because you have little knowledge of Prince's touring career, Prince marketed his 80s music till the end.

purplerabbithole said:

They don't owe me shit...but I don't owe them respect if I think their actions suck. Your slamming on me doesn't change the fact that Prince nostalgia of the 80's is what they are marketing and post-Revolution music is what they are completely ignoring.

[Edited 1/23/18 20:57pm]

from day one of the ID your are now, you've intensly went after them. So I will defend as you continue to criticize beyond reason.

purplerabbithole said:

I didn't respect Prince?? How would you know? I didn't know Prince beyond the hits. I don't know the music of Bruce Springsteen beyond the hits -- it doesn't mean I don['t respect him.

The Revolution are doing just fine and probably don't need you to defend them constantly either.

OldFriends4Sale said:

You didn't respect Prince when he was alive. You weren't even a fan. You know of them and any time some post something on them you will be right in there talking shit, teacher. But they don't know you. And your respect or lack will not affect them and the fans.

And because you have little knowledge of Prince's touring career, Prince marketed his 80s music till the end.

I have not. I had issues with them but read back. I said I don't know what to think about Brown and that I was torn. I even defended Mark Brown once on this thread.. you only see the criticisms.

NIce things I have said about the Revolution...

--Lisa is a piano genius

--Wendy is a better guitarist than some people tried to say on here.

--both ladies should be honored to be two of 55-60 female composers in hollywood

--I agreed that Mark Brown and Mazarati deserved more credit than they got for Kiss (but not all credit for the music like Brown claimed but more than they got)

--acknowledged that they did want to reunite when he was still alive

--acknowledged that Dr. Fink has been complimentary

--that I like Lisa's singing on 1999

--enjoyed the Bobby Z jokes about P's funk face

--acknowledged that the liner notes of Purple Rain Deluxe were movingly rendered

--loved Lisa compliments on P's use of minimalism and how much she loved When Doves Cry and Darling Nicki.

--stated that Lisa was pretty(I believe, I know I thought it)

--stated that the Fancy lesbian comment was funny

I am going to further compliment them now...here goes

--I admire how hard they worked for Prince and their discipline.

--love that Lisa told the "Strange Way of Saying I love you" story

--do admire the way he was influenced by their tastes (but ultimately he chose to be influenced because he knew what they brought to the table)

--do love that Wendy could call him My Little Pony and play with his chest hair

--do like that they didn't hire a full time singer to replace Prince on these tours

--do admire that W and L forgave him for his homophobic early comments

--also admire that Wendy stated that Prince wanted her child to call him uncle Princey (that was a cool move because I think it might have won some forgiveneness from his gay fans)

--Wendy's lovely statements around 2004 about their reconcilliation at the time

--think Power Fantastic is brilliant and wish P had given them more credit

--admire their warmth with fans

--admire comradry with one another

--admire that they might not be getting paid much for these tours

--admire that they didn't get too upset about the AMA not mentioning them when Purple Rain won best soundtrack last year.

--Wendy complimenting P on his guitar playing

--Fink and or bobby complimenting P on his perfect singing

--Mark complimenting P on his bass playing...

--Lisa complimenting him on the lyrics in Raspberry Beret.

--Dr. Fink constantly mentioned Prince's sense of humor

Neutral about...

--their issues with credits at times are justifiable. I just wish it had stayed more matter of fact and not ended with Wendy stating some bitter things in that Purple Rain doc years ago and leading folks to believe she and L wrote Purple Rain).

--their statement that P needed to not always appear strong (and that he would still be alive if he were willing to admit his weakness and need for help.) I agree.

--their acknowledgment that they had their ups and downs with him

Annoyed about--

--focusing only on P and the Revolution songs after his death as if there was no great songs without their contributions. (I struggle with whether they believe what that exclusion of other songs implies or not>>)

--not appearing in any other tributes for big audiences (even up to his point)

--Wendy wanting Thanks You's...sorry but I think he did thank her indirectly (Rolling Stone cover, Kiss video, In This Bed I scream song etc) and she has appeared on shows and in books stating her contributions to his work for years. Why does she need a thank you at this point. Some credit and cash maybe.

--Lisa saying P was sanctified and canonized...I don't agree...we know he was a dick sometimes. No one ever said he was a saint. We get it. Don't belabor a point that was well established before he died. And his music is still 80's nostalgia with large chunks ignored by critics and massive public. He doesn't have Dylan or the Beatles canonization. I find him a bit underrated with the general public. He never wins Prince vs MJ polls. thats for sure. The hype right after he died was huge but its died down considerably since then.

--Mark's statement to Jill that seemed fake on facebook

--Mark claiming to not remember anything from a rather recent and important performance whilst remembering details from the concerts years ago (Rolling Stone opening etc).

--Mark's statement that death is the price you pay for your sins. He probably meant it a different way but it was still a ill-adviced comment.

--No public words of condolences when Prince's son died even though P threw some love toward Wendy and LIsa's brothers when they died. (the love we make and a song dedicated to Lisa's brother during Musicology tour.) If I am wrong about this, then I apologize.

--Wendy's statement that P was "mean" to every woman he ever lived with because he was terrified of real intimacy. Probably not a completely untrue statement but it is way too presumptious to make that generalization about every relationship and every woman.

--Wendy stating that the Revolution with P was his only real band and the equivalent of the Beatles. I know they contributed a lot on Around the World in a Day/PR/Parade but the Beatles had two leaders. Prince and the Revolution had one. Maybe during Dream Factory..it was more of a democracy but that album didn't see the light of day.

[Edited 1/23/18 22:55pm]

OldFriends4Sale said:

I am sexist because I think it is odd for a grown ass man to whine about another man taking his girlfriend out shopping and not some dude in the man?
You realize that Brown is being homophobic with his comments emphasizing that he was hanging out at Soellmam and not Morehouse. He protest a little too much and now we know why he did not get to speak in the past.

purplerabbithole said:

You let them off toeasy in the neutral area. As far as Mark is concerned let him keep talking until he hangs himself.

laurarichardson said:

—-You think they were close because the did something back in 1989! Well I will just say we know who the sister was in the relationship after he got mad because Prince did not take him shopping like the girls.

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

go somewhere, you're sexist

I am sexist because I think it is odd for a grown ass man to whine about another man taking his girlfriend out shopping and not some dude in the man? You realize that Brown is being homophobic with his comments emphasizing that he was hanging out at Soellmam and not Morehouse. He protest a little too much and now we know why he did not get to speak in the past.

well if he is being homophobic, you would surely know. But he isn't

Guess what? Guy go shopping and go hanging out doing stuff together too, that is all BrownMark is saying, your sexist religiosity is of the charts.

get over yourself

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

—-You think they were close because the did something back in 1989! Well I will just say we know who the sister was in the relationship after he got mad because Prince did not take him shopping like the girls.

seriously?

Please don't cosign Laurarichardsons bitchin

BrownMark was friends with Prince until he died

I'm still upset that you all got our Cat interview shut down

laurarichardson said:

purplerabbithole said:

I have not. I had issues with them but read back. I said I don't know what to think about Brown and that I was torn. I even defended Mark Brown once on this thread.. you only see the criticisms.

NIce things I have said about the Revolution...

--Lisa is a piano genius

--Wendy is a better guitarist than some people tried to say on here.

--both ladies should be honored to be two of 55-60 female composers in hollywood

--I agreed that Mark Brown and Mazarati deserved more credit than they got for Kiss (but not all credit for the music like Brown claimed but more than they got)

--acknowledged that they did want to reunite when he was still alive

--acknowledged that Dr. Fink has been complimentary

--that I like Lisa's singing on 1999

--enjoyed the Bobby Z jokes about P's funk face

--acknowledged that the liner notes of Purple Rain Deluxe were movingly rendered

--loved Lisa compliments on P's use of minimalism and how much she loved When Doves Cry and Darling Nicki.

--stated that Lisa was pretty(I believe, I know I thought it)

--stated that the Fancy lesbian comment was funny

I am going to further compliment them now...here goes

--I admire how hard they worked for Prince and their discipline.

--love that Lisa told the "Strange Way of Saying I love you" story

--do admire the way he was influenced by their tastes (but ultimately he chose to be influenced because he knew what they brought to the table)

--do love that Wendy could call him My Little Pony and play with his chest hair

--do like that they didn't hire a full time singer to replace Prince on these tours

--do admire that W and L forgave him for his homophobic early comments

--also admire that Wendy stated that Prince wanted her child to call him uncle Princey (that was a cool move because I think it might have won some forgiveneness from his gay fans)

--Wendy's lovely statements around 2004 about their reconcilliation at the time

--think Power Fantastic is brilliant and wish P had given them more credit

--admire their warmth with fans

--admire comradry with one another

--admire that they might not be getting paid much for these tours

--admire that they didn't get too upset about the AMA not mentioning them when Purple Rain won best soundtrack last year.

--Wendy complimenting P on his guitar playing

--Fink and or bobby complimenting P on his perfect singing

--Mark complimenting P on his bass playing...

--Lisa complimenting him on the lyrics in Raspberry Beret.

--Dr. Fink constantly mentioned Prince's sense of humor

Neutral about...

--their issues with credits at times are justifiable. I just wish it had stayed more matter of fact and not ended with Wendy stating some bitter things in that Purple Rain doc years ago and leading folks to believe she and L wrote Purple Rain).

--their statement that P needed to not always appear strong (and that he would still be alive if he were willing to admit his weakness and need for help.) I agree.

--their acknowledgment that they had their ups and downs with him

Annoyed about--

--focusing only on P and the Revolution songs after his death as if there was no great songs without their contributions. (I struggle with whether they believe what that exclusion of other songs implies or not>>)

--not appearing in any other tributes for big audiences (even up to his point)

--Wendy wanting Thanks You's...sorry but I think he did thank her indirectly (Rolling Stone cover, Kiss video, In This Bed I scream song etc) and she has appeared on shows and in books stating her contributions to his work for years. Why does she need a thank you at this point. Some credit and cash maybe.

--Lisa saying P was sanctified and canonized...I don't agree...we know he was a dick sometimes. No one ever said he was a saint. We get it. Don't belabor a point that was well established before he died. And his music is still 80's nostalgia with large chunks ignored by critics and massive public. He doesn't have Dylan or the Beatles canonization. I find him a bit underrated with the general public. He never wins Prince vs MJ polls. thats for sure. The hype right after he died was huge but its died down considerably since then.

--Mark's statement to Jill that seemed fake on facebook

--Mark claiming to not remember anything from a rather recent and important performance whilst remembering details from the concerts years ago (Rolling Stone opening etc).

--Mark's statement that death is the price you pay for your sins. He probably meant it a different way but it was still a ill-adviced comment.

--No public words of condolences when Prince's son died even though P threw some love toward Wendy and LIsa's brothers when they died. (the love we make and a song dedicated to Lisa's brother during Musicology tour.) If I am wrong about this, then I apologize.

--Wendy's statement that P was "mean" to every woman he ever lived with because he was terrified of real intimacy. Probably not a completely untrue statement but it is way too presumptious to make that generalization about every relationship and every woman.

--Wendy stating that the Revolution with P was his only real band and the equivalent of the Beatles. I know they contributed a lot on Around the World in a Day/PR/Parade but the Beatles had two leaders. Prince and the Revolution had one. Maybe during Dream Factory..it was more of a democracy but that album didn't see the light of day.

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You let them off toeasy in the neutral area. As far as Mark is concerned let him keep talking until he hangs himself.

How the fuck is he going to hang himself? I think your mind is to foggy from all that conspiracy/estate garbage

Every thread turns into this 'feeling some kinda way crap'

What is the purpose of all of this? He said he didn't remember the Atlanta show why are you reviewing how you feel about the Revolution members?

I mean the coven bitchin that happens her is crazy

purplerabbithole said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

seriously?

Please don't cosign Laurarichardsons bitchin

BrownMark was friends with Prince until he died

I'm still upset that you all got our Cat interview shut down

Seriously, I was going to say the same thing that Laura said about BM complaining that P took all the girls shopping and did nothing for him.

They were such good friends that BM don't even remember the Atlanta Concert. One would think that he would remember the last concert his good friend Prince ever performed and what happened after that concert.

Uh-oh, does this mean that you are trying to get BM to answer questions here on the org too? Is that why you are always holding up for him and the Rev?

PennyPurple said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

seriously?

Please don't cosign Laurarichardsons bitchin

BrownMark was friends with Prince until he died

I'm still upset that you all got our Cat interview shut down

Seriously, I was going to say the same thing that Laura said about BM complaining that P took all the girls shopping and did nothing for him.

They were such good friends that BM don't even remember the Atlanta Concert. One would think that he would remember the last concert his good friend Prince ever performed and what happened after that concert.

Uh-oh, does this mean that you are trying to get BM to answer questions here on the org too? Is that why you are always holding up for him and the Rev?

oooh same thing Laura said... that ain't good.

All the man is saying that Prince didn't go to the same lengths of social activities

He saw Prince as a big brother. Do you know little brothers/younger brothers like to tag along with their big brothers, go shopping (guess what men do go shopping together)

So Laura pushing this angle is very sexist and ignorant touched with her homophobia

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Again PennyPurple, you are choosing to edit what he said. Wrong. He didn't say he did not remember the show. Being close has nothing to do with it, he's not a robot.

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I was a big 80s rap fan, went to my first rap concert Fresh Fest II Run DMC LL Cool J Beastie Boys Fat Boys and Whoodini... don't remember it. It was a great night, so caught up in the happening. Girl giving a dude a blow job while everyone was standing up, and one of the entertainers throwing their towel out to the crowd outside... Doesn't mean I'm not a huge fan. It all went in a flash.

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Why would he need to remember the Atlanta concert? Did he know that was going to be the last concert Prince performed? Yall act like the Atlanta show God came down to heal folk

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"I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel" -Maya Angalou

This is what happens for concert goers

Have you ever gotten on the phone with someone you liked and forgotten your name?

Have you ever sat at a desk to take a test on stuff you know, and not remember the answers?

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A good read: Why We Remember or Forget Details of Alarming Moments

https://news.ucs.edu/8951...g-moments/

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you all still got our Cat interview shut down, we ain't happy. We put a lot of time/energy into that

And you all seemed to turn up the attack, what did you all think was going to happen? Like a purposed derailing.

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I just choose not to live in a 'nit picky fault finding mentality' it ain't good and it creates more anti-social energy

OldFriends4Sale said:

PennyPurple said:

Seriously, I was going to say the same thing that Laura said about BM complaining that P took all the girls shopping and did nothing for him.

They were such good friends that BM don't even remember the Atlanta Concert. One would think that he would remember the last concert his good friend Prince ever performed and what happened after that concert.

Uh-oh, does this mean that you are trying to get BM to answer questions here on the org too? Is that why you are always holding up for him and the Rev?

oooh same thing Laura said... that ain't good.

All the man is saying that Prince didn't go to the same lengths of social activities

He saw Prince as a big brother. Do you know little brothers/younger brothers like to tag along with their big brothers, go shopping (guess what men do go shopping together)

So Laura pushing this angle is very sexist and ignorant touched with her homophobia

.

Again PennyPurple, you are choosing to edit what he said. Wrong. He didn't say he did not remember the show. Being close has nothing to do with it, he's not a robot.

I was a big 80s rap fan, went to my first rap concert Fresh Fest II Run DMC LL Cool J Beastie Boys Fat Boys and Whoodini... don't remember it. It was a great night, so caught up in the happening. Girl giving a dude a blow job while everyone was standing up, and one of the entertainers throwing their towel out to the crowd outside... Doesn't mean I'm not a huge fan. It all went in a flash.

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Why would he need to remember the Atlanta concert? Did he know that was going to be the last concert Prince performed?

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you all still got our Cat interview shut down, we ain't happy.

As if I didn't already have enough reasons to dislike Laura.......

ThatWhiteDude said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

oooh same thing Laura said... that ain't good.

All the man is saying that Prince didn't go to the same lengths of social activities

He saw Prince as a big brother. Do you know little brothers/younger brothers like to tag along with their big brothers, go shopping (guess what men do go shopping together)

So Laura pushing this angle is very sexist and ignorant touched with her homophobia

.

Again PennyPurple, you are choosing to edit what he said. Wrong. He didn't say he did not remember the show. Being close has nothing to do with it, he's not a robot.

I was a big 80s rap fan, went to my first rap concert Fresh Fest II Run DMC LL Cool J Beastie Boys Fat Boys and Whoodini... don't remember it. It was a great night, so caught up in the happening. Girl giving a dude a blow job while everyone was standing up, and one of the entertainers throwing their towel out to the crowd outside... Doesn't mean I'm not a huge fan. It all went in a flash.

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Why would he need to remember the Atlanta concert? Did he know that was going to be the last concert Prince performed?

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you all still got our Cat interview shut down, we ain't happy.

As if I didn't already have enough reasons to dislike Laura.......

I don't like that double standard shit

It's like a woman who wants her man to be more emotionally available, then thinks he's a pussy when she sees him cry

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My cousins wife was talking to me about men showing emotions or being able to express certain things, and then her 5yr old son came to her crying and told him 'your a big boy you shouldn't be crying' and as soon as she turn away from him the realization of her hypocracy slapped her right in the face.

OldFriends4Sale said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

As if I didn't already have enough reasons to dislike Laura.......

I don't like that double standard shit

It's like a woman who wants her man to be more emotionally available, then thinks he's a pussy when she sees him cry

totally agree

laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

go somewhere, you're sexist

I am sexist because I think it is odd for a grown ass man to whine about another man taking his girlfriend out shopping and not some dude in the man? You realize that Brown is being homophobic with his comments emphasizing that he was hanging out at Soellmam and not Morehouse. He protest a little too much and now we know why he did not get to speak in the past.

That is so ignorant. Spelman is an all female college, Morehouse an all male college

how is that homophobic? All he is saying he was chilling with the ladies

You protest way too much