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Reply #270 posted 11/19/17 9:06am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



mnfriend said:


Oh God. “It was his sister Lorna who claimed she wrote U got The Look not Tyka” Tried to sue 3 times in the 80’s claiming she was the author/ royalties? I read here the original writing/script for the song ‘U got The Look’ You gotta look was in a briefcase in his room when he died? Am I loosing my mind? Is this fact really a fact/ true and if it is: eek

Yes, "U Got The Look" lyrics, handwritten by P, was found in his personal luggage.


This has been verified by the search warrants.


Tyka has never sued P.


Just saying.



Unless these were a gift to someone, the handwritten lyrics are kind of puzzling. From 2010 onwards though, I did notice Prince forgetting or missing lyrics in performances. As we now know he had surgery that year and was allegedly suffering from withdrawals I've since wondered if that had any connection to it?
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Reply #271 posted 11/19/17 10:41am

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ThatWhiteDude said:



morningsong said:


What about what Prince said in the 2014Rolling Stones interview?

What did he say?




Prince ruminated on sex, music and death in a previously unpublished 2014 interview.

http://www.rollingstone.c...60502[url]
“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
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Reply #272 posted 11/19/17 10:53am

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morningsong said:

ThatWhiteDude said:



morningsong said:


What about what Prince said in the 2014Rolling Stones interview?

What did he say?




Prince ruminated on sex, music and death in a previously unpublished 2014 interview.

http://www.rollingstone.c...60502[url]

It says page not found
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
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Reply #273 posted 11/19/17 11:04am

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morningsong said:




Prince ruminated on sex, music and death in a previously unpublished 2014 interview.

http://www.rollingstone.c...60502[url]

It says page not found



http://www.rollingstone.c...y-20160502
“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
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Reply #274 posted 11/19/17 3:24pm

ThatWhiteDude

morningsong said:

ThatWhiteDude said:
It says page not found
http://www.rollingstone.c...y-20160502

Okay, that Link worked. So Prince said that he slowed down with recording music and as I read it he also talked about a bright future.

Or what did you want to say about what he said? Am I getting something wrong?

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
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Reply #275 posted 11/19/17 3:33pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

morningsong said:

ThatWhiteDude said: http://www.rollingstone.c...y-20160502

Okay, that Link worked. So Prince said that he slowed down with recording music and as I read it he also talked about a bright future.

Or what did you want to say about what he said? Am I getting something wrong?

It was based on the 2014 unpublished RS article that start this speculation about Prince knew he was dying years ago. This came out long before Tyka said a word. I don't have the full article anymore but someone around here does.

“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
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Reply #276 posted 11/19/17 3:41pm

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morningsong said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Okay, that Link worked. So Prince said that he slowed down with recording music and as I read it he also talked about a bright future.

Or what did you want to say about what he said? Am I getting something wrong?

It was based on the 2014 unpublished RS article that start this speculation about Prince knew he was dying years ago. This came out long before Tyka said a word. I don't have the full article anymore but someone around here does.

I didn't read anything that made me think that he might have known that his time was limited.

"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
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Reply #277 posted 11/19/17 7:02pm

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http://www.rollingstone.c...e-20160422

This is the 2014 Rolling Stone article that was published after P passed.

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Reply #278 posted 11/19/17 7:26pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

http://www.rollingstone.c...e-20160422



This is the 2014 Rolling Stone article that was published after P passed.





Game thank you so much for posting this interview. The last bit
His reply regarding Micheal. I have always taken that to mean, he was in the
Same boat with pain pills/addiction when he says “ I’m to close to that”
When I read that I cmae away with that. I have been looking for that article
Cause I could t recall where I had read or saw it. To me right there
He maybe saying I have a similar issue and I don’t want to judge Michael for my same faults. Thoughts?? Anyone.
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Reply #279 posted 11/19/17 7:30pm

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purplefam99 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

http://www.rollingstone.c...e-20160422



This is the 2014 Rolling Stone article that was published after P passed.





Game thank you so much for posting this interview. The last bit
His reply regarding Micheal. I have always taken that to mean, he was in the
Same boat with pain pills/addiction when he says “ I’m to close to that”
When I read that I cmae away with that. I have been looking for that article
Cause I could t recall where I had read or saw it. To me right there
He maybe saying I have a similar issue and I don’t want to judge Michael for my same faults. Thoughts?? Anyone.

This might be true
"Like books and BLACK LIVES, Albums still MATTER."
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Reply #280 posted 11/19/17 7:37pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

purplefam99 said:





Game thank you so much for posting this interview. The last bit
His reply regarding Micheal. I have always taken that to mean, he was in the
Same boat with pain pills/addiction when he says “ I’m to close to that”
When I read that I cmae away with that. I have been looking for that article
Cause I could t recall where I had read or saw it. To me right there
He maybe saying I have a similar issue and I don’t want to judge Michael for my same faults. Thoughts?? Anyone.

This might be true




When I read that the first time that was my immediate reaction was that he just told us he shares the dependancey.
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Reply #281 posted 11/19/17 8:16pm

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purplefam99 said:

ThatWhiteDude said:
This might be true
When I read that the first time that was my immediate reaction was that he just told us he shares the dependancey.

With regards to the MJ quote in RS.... In addition, didn’t Tavis Smily say something similar? P was very upset when MJ passed because he …I forgot the exact quote…but TS said something to the effect that P said he was too close to it and they ended up talking all night. TS didn't say exactly what they disucssed but TS did say he knew P was taking pain medication. Did I remember that correctly?

~~DD55

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Reply #282 posted 11/19/17 8:26pm

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The link I posted is the shortened version of the RS article.

The link morningsong posted above is the full RS article that was published after P passed.


[Edited 11/19/17 21:25pm]

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Reply #283 posted 11/19/17 8:34pm

purplefam99

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purplefam99 said:


ThatWhiteDude said:
This might be true

When I read that the first time that was my immediate reaction was that he just told us he shares the dependancey.


With regards to the MJ quote in RS.... In addition, didn’t Tavis Smily say something similar? P was very upset when MJ passed because he …I forgot the exact quote…but TS said something to the effect that P said he was too close to it and they ended up talking all night. TS didn't say exactly what they disucssed but TS did say he knew P was taking pain medication. Did I remember that correctly?


~~DD55




Hmmm i think he told us. “ I’m too close to that”. Meaning I think P was
Telling us, or the reporter. Why was the article not published in 2014??
[Edited 11/19/17 20:36pm]
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Reply #284 posted 11/19/17 9:27pm

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purplefam99 said:

DD55 said:

With regards to the MJ quote in RS.... In addition, didn’t Tavis Smily say something similar? P was very upset when MJ passed because he …I forgot the exact quote…but TS said something to the effect that P said he was too close to it and they ended up talking all night. TS didn't say exactly what they disucssed but TS did say he knew P was taking pain medication. Did I remember that correctly?

~~DD55

Hmmm i think he told us. “ I’m too close to that”. Meaning I think P was Telling us, or the reporter. Why was the article not published in 2014??

It was not published because they wanted P to sit for a photo shoot for the cover and instead

P submitted a "heavily retouched" photo. Which appears to have become a bone of contention.

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Reply #285 posted 11/19/17 9:58pm

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kind of silly thing to be a bone of contention. I don't know maybe RS wanted Prince to show his age a bit more. NOt sure why they would care where the picture came from. Maybe, the picture was just an excuse. Prince wasn't as popular or young enough anymore to sell copies and both RS and P knew it.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

purplefam99 said:

DD55 said: Hmmm i think he told us. “ I’m too close to that”. Meaning I think P was Telling us, or the reporter. Why was the article not published in 2014??

It was not published because they wanted P to sit for a photo shoot for the cover and instead

P submitted a "heavily retouched" photo. Which appears to have become a bone of contention.

[Edited 11/19/17 21:58pm]

[Edited 11/19/17 21:59pm]

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Reply #286 posted 11/19/17 10:12pm

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I have a theory that Prince basically told his sis (in his own maddeningly cryptic way) that his pain was out of control and he was dependent on pain pills but he wasn't going to stop even if it killed him (and he knew that odds were, eventually, it would). She prepared herself for the worst that month he told her thinking that P's drug addiction would take him right way..knowing nothing she said or did would get him to stop. And then he survived and kept working so she put her concerns in the back of her mind but always kept the foreboding feeling that P would eventually succumb to drugs (and maybe she tried to convince to do something else) . She also maybe would get more concerned when his behavior became eratic etc. She apparently was with him the week of his death so maybe (who knows) she tried to convince him to get help and since he agreed that week that he would finally agree to get help, she may have felt for the first time that P would be okay--- only for him to succumb to an overdose. So, in a way she was both shocked and not at all surprised. She might have been a bit relieved that the worrying was over while simultaneously beeing devastated. This is a theory so don't jump on me claiming that I don't know shit. Obviously, I don't. But Tyka is probably all over the place in her feelings (she is probably angry at him as well) and yes, the money is probably enticing right now. But the human heart is a complicated tihng.

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Reply #287 posted 11/20/17 6:55am

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I have a theory that Prince basically told his sis (in his own maddeningly cryptic way) that his pain was out of control and he was dependent on pain pills but he wasn't going to stop even if it killed him (and he knew that odds were, eventually, it would). She prepared herself for the worst that month he told her thinking that P's drug addiction would take him right way..knowing nothing she said or did would get him to stop. And then he survived and kept working so she put her concerns in the back of her mind but always kept the foreboding feeling that P would eventually succumb to drugs (and maybe she tried to convince to do something else) . She also maybe would get more concerned when his behavior became eratic etc. She apparently was with him the week of his death so maybe (who knows) she tried to convince him to get help and since he agreed that week that he would finally agree to get help, she may have felt for the first time that P would be okay--- only for him to succumb to an overdose. So, in a way she was both shocked and not at all surprised. She might have been a bit relieved that the worrying was over while simultaneously beeing devastated. This is a theory so don't jump on me claiming that I don't know shit. Obviously, I don't. But Tyka is probably all over the place in her feelings (she is probably angry at him as well) and yes, the money is probably enticing right now. But the human heart is a complicated tihng.






I can see that^^^ entirely possible.
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Reply #288 posted 11/20/17 10:07am

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DD55 said:

purplefam99 said:

ThatWhiteDude said: When I read that the first time that was my immediate reaction was that he just told us he shares the dependancey.

With regards to the MJ quote in RS.... In addition, didn’t Tavis Smily say something similar? P was very upset when MJ passed because he …I forgot the exact quote…but TS said something to the effect that P said he was too close to it and they ended up talking all night. TS didn't say exactly what they disucssed but TS did say he knew P was taking pain medication. Did I remember that correctly?

~~DD55

Below is the link to the Tavis Smiley radio interview last year. He mentions that both Michael Jackson and Prince died the same way: due to pain they had pill dependence.

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Reply #289 posted 11/20/17 2:27pm

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purplefam99 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

http://www.rollingstone.c...e-20160422

This is the 2014 Rolling Stone article that was published after P passed.

Game thank you so much for posting this interview. The last bit His reply regarding Micheal. I have always taken that to mean, he was in the Same boat with pain pills/addiction when he says “ I’m to close to that” When I read that I cmae away with that. I have been looking for that article Cause I could t recall where I had read or saw it. To me right there He maybe saying I have a similar issue and I don’t want to judge Michael for my same faults. Thoughts?? Anyone.

I read the MJ comments more as 'I knew him MJ/his people/world well' so he didn't wnat to comment, Prince and MJ had similar lives in the gold fish bowl on the 80's particularly, they moved in similar circles, so I am sure he had allot of empathy for MJ and how he struggled (not just dependancies).

I think there was also the fact that anything Prince said about MJ, would be a big news story, especially after MJ had died, it would be used and twisted against him, best not to comment, there was a reason Prince didn't do many interviews.

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Reply #290 posted 11/20/17 4:42pm

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ecnirp98 said:



purplefam99 said:


ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

http://www.rollingstone.c...e-20160422



This is the 2014 Rolling Stone article that was published after P passed.



Game thank you so much for posting this interview. The last bit His reply regarding Micheal. I have always taken that to mean, he was in the Same boat with pain pills/addiction when he says “ I’m to close to that” When I read that I cmae away with that. I have been looking for that article Cause I could t recall where I had read or saw it. To me right there He maybe saying I have a similar issue and I don’t want to judge Michael for my same faults. Thoughts?? Anyone.


I read the MJ comments more as 'I knew him MJ/his people/world well' so he didn't wnat to comment, Prince and MJ had similar lives in the gold fish bowl on the 80's particularly, they moved in similar circles, so I am sure he had allot of empathy for MJ and how he struggled (not just dependancies).



I think there was also the fact that anything Prince said about MJ, would be a big news story, especially after MJ had died, it would be used and twisted against him, best not to comment, there was a reason Prince didn't do many interviews.








I could see that if the interview were done soon after MJ’s death. But 2014 I think his perspective was different. Imo
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Reply #291 posted 11/21/17 2:28am

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purplefam99 said:

ecnirp98 said:

I read the MJ comments more as 'I knew him MJ/his people/world well' so he didn't wnat to comment, Prince and MJ had similar lives in the gold fish bowl on the 80's particularly, they moved in similar circles, so I am sure he had allot of empathy for MJ and how he struggled (not just dependancies).

I think there was also the fact that anything Prince said about MJ, would be a big news story, especially after MJ had died, it would be used and twisted against him, best not to comment, there was a reason Prince didn't do many interviews.

I could see that if the interview were done soon after MJ’s death. But 2014 I think his perspective was different. Imo

I still think Prince would not comment, just because it would cause reaction in the press and be used against him, MJ stories still sell newspapers/magazines, he also rarely talked about the past, he was always about the now and future to the press.

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Reply #292 posted 12/05/17 4:34pm

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First she says she had been preparing for 2-years, now it's 3?? eek

Buying jewelry for the funeral? WHO says that? eek

I know people are gonna say "Oh, that's just Tyka being Tyka". Nah, not a good excuse, sorry!

http://www.mirror.co.uk/t...s-11411709" target="_blank"> http://www.mirror.co.uk/t...s-11411709

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Reply #293 posted 12/05/17 5:21pm

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purplefam99 said:

midnightmover said: The recent bbc interview?? I missed the bits your recalling. Hmmm.

There were just a few too many little digs in there for me. Referring to his old clothes as "his crap", and talking about him being self absorbed and how "I wanted to tell him to shut up!" Little things like that just made me think she still has some anger towards him.

And yes, I do think she's a little bit loopy too as her suing him three times over the authorship of "U Got The Look" shows. Maybe Prince really did steal the song from her, but three judges disagreed.

And she is incomprehensible when she talks about his final years. I think that's because she's playing games. She could be clear if she wanted to.

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I got the same impression as you did. She seems to take little digs at her late brother. A lot of people excuse her poor behavior, but I find her to be quite odd. I think Prince kept his distance from her. I linked that video/interview in my other comment. It was with the BBC.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #294 posted 12/05/17 5:33pm

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ThatWhiteDude said:

morningsong said:

It was based on the 2014 unpublished RS article that start this speculation about Prince knew he was dying years ago. This came out long before Tyka said a word. I don't have the full article anymore but someone around here does.

I didn't read anything that made me think that he might have known that his time was limited.

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I agree. Also, Tyka saying "He did what he came here to do", doesn't necessarily mean he was ready or preparing to die. Words can easily be taken out of context. She also states that her and several other's knew he was going to die, and we still do not know who she is talking about. I'm so tired of her cryptic messages. If she wants to share what happened to her brother, then tell us. If not, then she should stop with these ridiculous statements that aren't helping anyone. It's not fair to the fans, and it's disrespectful to her late brother.

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Reply #295 posted 12/06/17 10:29am

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Prince did know, he did prepare those closest to him. I don't know more than that, but I do know that.

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
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Reply #296 posted 12/06/17 11:17am

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benni said:

Prince did know, he did prepare those closest to him. I don't know more than that, but I do know that.

How do you know? Do you mean you have a hunch? Or a feeling? Or do you mean you actually know. Factually. That Prince knew he was dying?

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Reply #297 posted 12/06/17 11:18am

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Prince did know, he did prepare those closest to him. I don't know more than that, but I do know that.



Yep.



“Do I dare Disturb the universe?”
― T.S. Eliot

“Only by acceptance of the past, can you alter it”
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Reply #298 posted 12/06/17 1:22pm

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colm said:

benni said:

Prince did know, he did prepare those closest to him. I don't know more than that, but I do know that.

How do you know? Do you mean you have a hunch? Or a feeling? Or do you mean you actually know. Factually. That Prince knew he was dying?


Not a hunch, not a feeling. All I know is what I said above and I trust the source implicitly.

Clinical social work is a healthcare profession based on theories & methods of prevention & treatment in providing mental-health/healthcare services, with special focus on behavioral & bio-psychosocial problems & disorders. Have U hugged an LMSW 2day?
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Reply #299 posted 12/06/17 2:40pm

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I came across this interview Tyka did with the BBC, saying that she knew he was going to die. There is no visual; only audio, but I find a lot of her comments to be rather strange.

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So, Prince told her when she was at McDonald's? eek

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Again, she is being vague about a lot of things.

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Tyka says she knew and a few other's knew, but yet they all sat back and did nothing about it? confused

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https://www.youtube.com/w...&t=27s

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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