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Reply #120 posted 11/03/17 8:10am

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GimmeThat said:

CAL3 said:

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Yeah and isn't she spouting something about Native American mystical powers or some such bullshit?

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It's a crock, I personally feel she's full of shit and outta keep her trap shut about this subject - unless she's gonna come forth with something more concrete than psychic BS (and also stop changing the timeline on her claims, too). It's a headline grab. And it's pathetic.

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Just my opinion of course, but I find it embarrassing every time she gets quoted spouting nonsense.

Agree 100%. She needs to shut it. It’s a way of holding attention. If she had any real love for her brother she would put her attention toward preserving his legacy. Instead she is trying to get publicity for some project of her own that is bound to fail.

What do you think she is doing in London? She is promoting the exhibit and discussing future plans for Paisley Park. These things are preserving his legacy. She also never said she had physic powers. He informed of what was going on and you need to stop getting your info from People mag.

You do not get money for giving interviews and she is going to inherit money so what are you talking about.

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Reply #121 posted 11/03/17 8:28am

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Okay, Laurarichardson, you told me that at least a dozen of the people that worked with him, said that there was more to it than what we (the fans), know.

But the only person that I know of that states that there was something different, was Tyka. And what she told us could mean anything. It could simply mean, that she SUGGESTED, that he told her in that way that he was dying. It could mean that she felt that he had a problem (NO MATTER WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS). BUT WE CAN'T KNOW FOR SURE IF SHE KEEPS TALKING LIKE THAT.

YOU on the other hand, take this as a FACT, just because she was his sister and because she was around him. But you know what? That doesn't mean anything. Okay, 'cause you know what else? I got so many people around me, people I see everyday and I hear so many things on a daily basis, that could also mean that they might die soon. And I'm a person too, that thinks too much about the things I hear. But nothing I ever thought they meant, happened later. NOTHING HAPPENED. It was just all in my head.

But I can tell you that, I checked them side effects and them symptoms of the withdrawals from Percocet. And you was the one that asked me, if pain meds can make your skin yellow. And the answer is FUCK YEAH THEY CAN. We do know that P took Percocet. And you know what the funny thing is? You don't even have to be an addict to get them side effects, you just simply need to be a long-term user, wich the warrent states, P was. HE WASN'T ADDICTED BUT HE USED THEM ON A CONSTANT BASIS. That also explains why he stille functioned at 100%. Oh and guess what else? They sure as hell can give you liver damage, surprise, isn't it?

And remember that they said Prince had the flu? Well, another surprise, percocet can give them symptoms too. Prince couldn't keep his food down? Percocet can be blamed. He had stomach pain and throat problems, Percocet can be blamed too.

You asked me, why it's so important to me, that P is just another victim of the crisis, well, to be honest, it's not important to me. But it's more plausible than the cancer theorie. While we're on that subject, why is it so important to you, that it was more than just them pills? See, the warrent points more to the theorie that Prince was indeed just another victim of the crisis.

FACT IS: P was treatened for an overdose before his death. Kirk told them that it was probably percocet. FACT IS: The warrent states that P refused to get treatened for his suggested pain killer problem. FACT IS: The amount of pain meds is indeed, an evidence that he really had a problem with them. FACT IS: That that doctor's son had pills that are used as a treatement for pain med addictions. He had also meds that are used if a patient suffers from nausea. Some medics found at PP do get prescribed for cancer, BUT YOU CAN ALSO PRESCRIBE THEM FOR OTHER THINGS just as, nausea from withdrawals.

Oh and that blood test? Well, IF P had liver damage, the test could've been taken because of that. A blood test doesn't mean that the person has cancer or AIDS. It can mean anything.

At this point, nothing really points to an illness such as cancer. There's literally no evidence for that. Infact, most people around him even said that he had problems with pills. Apollonia said that she met him back in November 2015 and she felt that he was on something.

EVERYBODY SAYS HOW MUCH PAIN HE HAD, they were reffering to his joint pain. Did you read Sheila E's latest Interview, what she told about her pain? Read that and imagine what pain P really had and then think again about them pills. It makes more and more sense that he got hooked on them.

If you still think that the symptoms he had only come from an illness such as cancer, then you should do some research on opiotes and how they fuck you up easily. They can also make you sick to your stomach, they can also damage your entire system, because they ain't like aspirin, they are much stronger.

To state one final thing: I am not against the thought that he probably was really sick, 'cause if he was, then I can't change it. But there's no real evidence to say that. And I think that you are not open to the theorie that it was indeed, an opiote problem. You constantly avoid it like it would be a shame for Prince to just be another victim of a crisis.

La La said it, Julia Ramandan said it, Tavis Smiley said he was using pain meds for pain and was not a drug addict, Kim Berry said he was not a drug addict but made a mention of toward the end,

Andria Crutchfield said he was not an addict, The Chefs have said they were lied to about his illness if this illness was due to drugs why not just say they were lied to about the drugs and not use the word illness. Two members of his band have said via Facebook that they were told a week before to come and get their things out of Paisley because everything will be tied up in court and they would not be able to get their things out.

There must be two dozen other people who travled and worked with him on a daily basis who never saw him high. Do you know estates cannot sue for defamation so what is stopping people from talking?

He was not planning on going to rehab because he was going to die. Either because he wanted to make it happen or it was going to happen anyway.

I am sorry but we now have crediable people talking and since it is not ethical to share personal message none of us who are aware are going to post the evidence but these comments along with Tyka's comments and timeline all fit togeher.

More stuff is going to come out so you need to get ready. I also have never said he was not addicted to these drugs at the end of his life. My point is so what if you are in pain and facing death anyway what difference does it make.

I had a cousin who had terminal cancer. He was given a pain bag and sent on his way he made it for a year and got around well but lost a tremedous amout of weight and begin to look ill. In the end he was bed ridden and on heavy medication to make him comfortable. Was he addicted to Oxy at the last months of his life probaly so but who cares if you are dying.

My cousin was poor with no insurance and he managed to get around for a year. Prince had plenty of money and if he was on drugs he could have had a crate of Suxbone inside Paisley Park and kept on using drugs.

Do you know that when he was taken to the hopital in 2014 it was listed as dehydration not for a drug overdose? Do you now Kirk told the police he was hospitalized twice in the last few years and the rumor is one of those was for Sephis.

What does that have to do with drugs? I believe he had health issues not all related to drugs going back to 2012 and 13.

You can believe what you want but you need to do a little reserch.

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Reply #122 posted 11/03/17 8:34am

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colm said:

ecnirp98 said:

One thing that doesn't make sense in all this to me, is that he was aware of his addiction and problems, so why not prepare things like a will and intentions just in case, doesn't seem like a Prince thing to do to just leave it all to other people to decide his intentions/legacy.

I would imagine that was because he didn't think he was going to die so soon. You don't plan on dying of an accidental opiod overdose.

Let us not forget who called 911 on the 21st April 2016. It was Andrew Kornfeld, the son of a doctor Howard Kornfeld, a national authority on opioid addiction treatment who was contacted by Princes people. It was hoped that Prince would agree to go to California for long-term care under Kornfeld’s supervision. Prince’s representatives called Howard Kornfeld because of his reputation as a nationally known addiction researcher. According to Howard Kornfeld’s business website, Recovery Without Walls is a “personalized outpatient clinic, specializing in innovative, evidence-based medical treatment for chronic pain and drug and alcohol addiction.”

Andrew Kornfeld had a small amount of buprenorphine to give to Prince. Buprenorphine, sold under the brand name Subutex, among others, is an opioid used to treat opioid addiction, moderate acute pain and moderate chronic pain. The combination buprenorphine/naloxone is also used for opioid addiction.

[Edited 11/3/17 3:56am]

Take a look at the drugs that Dr. S wrote for him and question why a person who is only dealing with drugs issues is waiting for test results. Test for what to tell him he is on drugs and no test Dr. S ran to get ready for the rehab would matter because Prince was unattended the night before and was given a rack of meds by Dr. S including the Hydrocone.

That does that sound like someone preparing for Rehab. Dr K's center is also outpatient so Prince really would not have been in a traditional rehab and I do not think he had any intention of going in the first place.

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Reply #123 posted 11/03/17 8:35am

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PennyPurple said:

GimmeThat said:

Agree 100%. She needs to shut it. It’s a way of holding attention. If she had any real love for her brother she would put her attention toward preserving his legacy. Instead she is trying to get publicity for some project of her own that is bound to fail.

She is working on his legacy. She is doing everything she can possibly do to keep his legacy alive. PP Museum, The O2 tour. The TV interviews where she tells us little stories about them growing up together, the yearly events that are being held at PP for us fans, even the urn that she helped design.


I think some fans aren't happy because she's not talking about how he died.


And actually if you really study her in her interviews, she's still grieving, but she also knows that us fans are still grieving too, and she's trying to do all of this for us. She doesn't have to do a darn thing, but if it wasn't for HER and maybe OMARR, we would have nothing.

Good points but trust me. Many people do not take the time to even look at that BBC interview much less study. They are too busy getting info from People.

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Reply #124 posted 11/03/17 9:01am

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laurarichardson said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Okay, Laurarichardson, you told me that at least a dozen of the people that worked with him, said that there was more to it than what we (the fans), know.

But the only person that I know of that states that there was something different, was Tyka. And what she told us could mean anything. It could simply mean, that she SUGGESTED, that he told her in that way that he was dying. It could mean that she felt that he had a problem (NO MATTER WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS). BUT WE CAN'T KNOW FOR SURE IF SHE KEEPS TALKING LIKE THAT.

YOU on the other hand, take this as a FACT, just because she was his sister and because she was around him. But you know what? That doesn't mean anything. Okay, 'cause you know what else? I got so many people around me, people I see everyday and I hear so many things on a daily basis, that could also mean that they might die soon. And I'm a person too, that thinks too much about the things I hear. But nothing I ever thought they meant, happened later. NOTHING HAPPENED. It was just all in my head.

But I can tell you that, I checked them side effects and them symptoms of the withdrawals from Percocet. And you was the one that asked me, if pain meds can make your skin yellow. And the answer is FUCK YEAH THEY CAN. We do know that P took Percocet. And you know what the funny thing is? You don't even have to be an addict to get them side effects, you just simply need to be a long-term user, wich the warrent states, P was. HE WASN'T ADDICTED BUT HE USED THEM ON A CONSTANT BASIS. That also explains why he stille functioned at 100%. Oh and guess what else? They sure as hell can give you liver damage, surprise, isn't it?

And remember that they said Prince had the flu? Well, another surprise, percocet can give them symptoms too. Prince couldn't keep his food down? Percocet can be blamed. He had stomach pain and throat problems, Percocet can be blamed too.

You asked me, why it's so important to me, that P is just another victim of the crisis, well, to be honest, it's not important to me. But it's more plausible than the cancer theorie. While we're on that subject, why is it so important to you, that it was more than just them pills? See, the warrent points more to the theorie that Prince was indeed just another victim of the crisis.

FACT IS: P was treatened for an overdose before his death. Kirk told them that it was probably percocet. FACT IS: The warrent states that P refused to get treatened for his suggested pain killer problem. FACT IS: The amount of pain meds is indeed, an evidence that he really had a problem with them. FACT IS: That that doctor's son had pills that are used as a treatement for pain med addictions. He had also meds that are used if a patient suffers from nausea. Some medics found at PP do get prescribed for cancer, BUT YOU CAN ALSO PRESCRIBE THEM FOR OTHER THINGS just as, nausea from withdrawals.

Oh and that blood test? Well, IF P had liver damage, the test could've been taken because of that. A blood test doesn't mean that the person has cancer or AIDS. It can mean anything.

At this point, nothing really points to an illness such as cancer. There's literally no evidence for that. Infact, most people around him even said that he had problems with pills. Apollonia said that she met him back in November 2015 and she felt that he was on something.

EVERYBODY SAYS HOW MUCH PAIN HE HAD, they were reffering to his joint pain. Did you read Sheila E's latest Interview, what she told about her pain? Read that and imagine what pain P really had and then think again about them pills. It makes more and more sense that he got hooked on them.

If you still think that the symptoms he had only come from an illness such as cancer, then you should do some research on opiotes and how they fuck you up easily. They can also make you sick to your stomach, they can also damage your entire system, because they ain't like aspirin, they are much stronger.

To state one final thing: I am not against the thought that he probably was really sick, 'cause if he was, then I can't change it. But there's no real evidence to say that. And I think that you are not open to the theorie that it was indeed, an opiote problem. You constantly avoid it like it would be a shame for Prince to just be another victim of a crisis.

La La said it, Julia Ramandan said it, Tavis Smiley said he was using pain meds for pain and was not a drug addict, Kim Berry said he was not a drug addict but made a mention of toward the end,

Andria Crutchfield said he was not an addict, The Chefs have said they were lied to about his illness if this illness was due to drugs why not just say they were lied to about the drugs and not use the word illness. Two members of his band have said via Facebook that they were told a week before to come and get their things out of Paisley because everything will be tied up in court and they would not be able to get their things out.

There must be two dozen other people who travled and worked with him on a daily basis who never saw him high. Do you know estates cannot sue for defamation so what is stopping people from talking?

He was not planning on going to rehab because he was going to die. Either because he wanted to make it happen or it was going to happen anyway.

I am sorry but we now have crediable people talking and since it is not ethical to share personal message none of us who are aware are going to post the evidence but these comments along with Tyka's comments and timeline all fit togeher.

More stuff is going to come out so you need to get ready. I also have never said he was not addicted to these drugs at the end of his life. My point is so what if you are in pain and facing death anyway what difference does it make.

I had a cousin who had terminal cancer. He was given a pain bag and sent on his way he made it for a year and got around well but lost a tremedous amout of weight and begin to look ill. In the end he was bed ridden and on heavy medication to make him comfortable. Was he addicted to Oxy at the last months of his life probaly so but who cares if you are dying.

My cousin was poor with no insurance and he managed to get around for a year. Prince had plenty of money and if he was on drugs he could have had a crate of Suxbone inside Paisley Park and kept on using drugs.

Do you know that when he was taken to the hopital in 2014 it was listed as dehydration not for a drug overdose? Do you now Kirk told the police he was hospitalized twice in the last few years and the rumor is one of those was for Sephis.

What does that have to do with drugs? I believe he had health issues not all related to drugs going back to 2012 and 13.

You can believe what you want but you need to do a little reserch.

u mean SEPSIS?

jesus.. that's horrible. broken

"Damn Dolores, pick another subject, please...introduce the carpet to something other than your knees...."
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Reply #125 posted 11/03/17 9:04am

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

laurarichardson said:

La La said it, Julia Ramandan said it, Tavis Smiley said he was using pain meds for pain and was not a drug addict, Kim Berry said he was not a drug addict but made a mention of toward the end,

Andria Crutchfield said he was not an addict, The Chefs have said they were lied to about his illness if this illness was due to drugs why not just say they were lied to about the drugs and not use the word illness. Two members of his band have said via Facebook that they were told a week before to come and get their things out of Paisley because everything will be tied up in court and they would not be able to get their things out.

There must be two dozen other people who travled and worked with him on a daily basis who never saw him high. Do you know estates cannot sue for defamation so what is stopping people from talking?

He was not planning on going to rehab because he was going to die. Either because he wanted to make it happen or it was going to happen anyway.

I am sorry but we now have crediable people talking and since it is not ethical to share personal message none of us who are aware are going to post the evidence but these comments along with Tyka's comments and timeline all fit togeher.

More stuff is going to come out so you need to get ready. I also have never said he was not addicted to these drugs at the end of his life. My point is so what if you are in pain and facing death anyway what difference does it make.

I had a cousin who had terminal cancer. He was given a pain bag and sent on his way he made it for a year and got around well but lost a tremedous amout of weight and begin to look ill. In the end he was bed ridden and on heavy medication to make him comfortable. Was he addicted to Oxy at the last months of his life probaly so but who cares if you are dying.

My cousin was poor with no insurance and he managed to get around for a year. Prince had plenty of money and if he was on drugs he could have had a crate of Suxbone inside Paisley Park and kept on using drugs.

Do you know that when he was taken to the hopital in 2014 it was listed as dehydration not for a drug overdose? Do you now Kirk told the police he was hospitalized twice in the last few years and the rumor is one of those was for Sephis.

What does that have to do with drugs? I believe he had health issues not all related to drugs going back to 2012 and 13.

You can believe what you want but you need to do a little reserch.

u mean SEPSIS?

jesus.. that's horrible. broken

Yes, I am sorry I spelled that wrong. Yes, it is horrible. I have done a little reserch on it.

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Reply #126 posted 11/03/17 9:35am

ecnirp98

colm said:

ecnirp98 said:

One thing that doesn't make sense in all this to me, is that he was aware of his addiction and problems, so why not prepare things like a will and intentions just in case, doesn't seem like a Prince thing to do to just leave it all to other people to decide his intentions/legacy.

I would imagine that was because he didn't think he was going to die so soon. You don't plan on dying of an accidental opiod overdose.

Let us not forget who called 911 on the 21st April 2016. It was Andrew Kornfeld, the son of a doctor Howard Kornfeld, a national authority on opioid addiction treatment who was contacted by Princes people. It was hoped that Prince would agree to go to California for long-term care under Kornfeld’s supervision. Prince’s representatives called Howard Kornfeld because of his reputation as a nationally known addiction researcher. According to Howard Kornfeld’s business website, Recovery Without Walls is a “personalized outpatient clinic, specializing in innovative, evidence-based medical treatment for chronic pain and drug and alcohol addiction.”

Andrew Kornfeld had a small amount of buprenorphine to give to Prince. Buprenorphine, sold under the brand name Subutex, among others, is an opioid used to treat opioid addiction, moderate acute pain and moderate chronic pain. The combination buprenorphine/naloxone is also used for opioid addiction.

[Edited 11/3/17 3:56am]

My comments was more that if Prince knew he was (possibly) coming towards his end (as Tyka claims as he let close people be aware 3 years in advance) when struggling with pain/addiction, then you would think he would have put his plans/will in order, just on the chance things go bad, if he can send pictures and songs to close family showing this, he can engage a high powered lawyer to write his intentions down, which all he had to do was review and sign.

You don't have to write a will because you think you are about to die, Prince lived in a very high profile world, lots of looneys out there who could have taken him out, he also travelled allot with touring etc, he lived in a higher risk lifestyle than most, so you'd think he would have left a will.

The shock of when he passed out on the plane a few days before his death and was rushed to hospital to be brought round should have been enough of a jolt to make him think he was close to the edge, especially as he was lucky to have people with him at the time, being on his own at PP at that point was a massive risk for him, something unfortunately he paid the price for.

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Reply #127 posted 11/03/17 10:05am

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ecnirp98 said:

My comments was more that if Prince knew he was (possibly) coming towards his end (as Tyka claims as he let close people be aware 3 years in advance) when struggling with pain/addiction, then you would think he would have put his plans/will in order, just on the chance things go bad, if he can send pictures and songs to close family showing this, he can engage a high powered lawyer to write his intentions down, which all he had to do was review and sign.

You don't have to write a will because you think you are about to die, Prince lived in a very high profile world, lots of looneys out there who could have taken him out, he also travelled allot with touring etc, he lived in a higher risk lifestyle than most, so you'd think he would have left a will.

The shock of when he passed out on the plane a few days before his death and was rushed to hospital to be brought round should have been enough of a jolt to make him think he was close to the edge, especially as he was lucky to have people with him at the time, being on his own at PP at that point was a massive risk for him, something unfortunately he paid the price for.

He knew. He made plans. He wrote those plans down, he sent e-mails. Tyka knew exactly what to do. He wanted PP as a museum, he laid out detailed plans for it. He wanted to be cremated and fast and gave Tyka instructions on that too. He wanted his ashes at PP, he gave instructions on that. He kept his music safe. He didn't have a will, and really what good would a will have done, when you have older siblings who would tie it up in court.


He left instructions for several people.

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Reply #128 posted 11/03/17 10:14am

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PennyPurple said:

ecnirp98 said:

My comments was more that if Prince knew he was (possibly) coming towards his end (as Tyka claims as he let close people be aware 3 years in advance) when struggling with pain/addiction, then you would think he would have put his plans/will in order, just on the chance things go bad, if he can send pictures and songs to close family showing this, he can engage a high powered lawyer to write his intentions down, which all he had to do was review and sign.

You don't have to write a will because you think you are about to die, Prince lived in a very high profile world, lots of looneys out there who could have taken him out, he also travelled allot with touring etc, he lived in a higher risk lifestyle than most, so you'd think he would have left a will.

The shock of when he passed out on the plane a few days before his death and was rushed to hospital to be brought round should have been enough of a jolt to make him think he was close to the edge, especially as he was lucky to have people with him at the time, being on his own at PP at that point was a massive risk for him, something unfortunately he paid the price for.

He knew. He made plans. He wrote those plans down, he sent e-mails. Tyka knew exactly what to do. He wanted PP as a museum, he laid out detailed plans for it. He wanted to be cremated and fast and gave Tyka instructions on that too. He wanted his ashes at PP, he gave instructions on that. He kept his music safe. He didn't have a will, and really what good would a will have done, when you have older siblings who would tie it up in court.


He left instructions for several people.

Thank you. People missed the part where Tyka said he wanted to his ashes at PP and he left her task. Those older sibs would have contested a will as soon as soon as possible.

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Reply #129 posted 11/03/17 10:17am

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laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

He knew. He made plans. He wrote those plans down, he sent e-mails. Tyka knew exactly what to do. He wanted PP as a museum, he laid out detailed plans for it. He wanted to be cremated and fast and gave Tyka instructions on that too. He wanted his ashes at PP, he gave instructions on that. He kept his music safe. He didn't have a will, and really what good would a will have done, when you have older siblings who would tie it up in court.


He left instructions for several people.

Thank you. People missed the part where Tyka said he wanted to his ashes at PP and he left her task. Those older sibs would have contested a will as soon as soon as possible.

I'm not understanding how some people are not understanding. biggrin

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Reply #130 posted 11/03/17 10:39am

ecnirp98

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

He knew. He made plans. He wrote those plans down, he sent e-mails. Tyka knew exactly what to do. He wanted PP as a museum, he laid out detailed plans for it. He wanted to be cremated and fast and gave Tyka instructions on that too. He wanted his ashes at PP, he gave instructions on that. He kept his music safe. He didn't have a will, and really what good would a will have done, when you have older siblings who would tie it up in court.


He left instructions for several people.

Thank you. People missed the part where Tyka said he wanted to his ashes at PP and he left her task. Those older sibs would have contested a will as soon as soon as possible.

If a will is written correctly, legally wise, they can contest but they will not win.

I never knew he left instructions for his ashes etc.

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Reply #131 posted 11/03/17 10:46am

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Neither did we, I believe, until Tyka mentioned it. sad

ecnirp98 said:

laurarichardson said:

Thank you. People missed the part where Tyka said he wanted to his ashes at PP and he left her task. Those older sibs would have contested a will as soon as soon as possible.

If a will is written correctly, legally wise, they can contest but they will not win.

I never knew he left instructions for his ashes etc.

I am here! Where R U?! Gotta broken heart again...
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Reply #132 posted 11/03/17 11:34am

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ecnirp98 said:

laurarichardson said:

Thank you. People missed the part where Tyka said he wanted to his ashes at PP and he left her task. Those older sibs would have contested a will as soon as soon as possible.

If a will is written correctly, legally wise, they can contest but they will not win.

I never knew he left instructions for his ashes etc.

It is not about winning it about being spitful and keeping things tied up in court. Please take a look at the James Brown estate and the Ray Charles estate. Prince knew what his butthole sibs would try to pull. Just look at what they are doing right now. Dragging the estate back to court and trying to change the estate admins for a thrid time in less then two years.

This is just as bad as contesting but at least the court can rein them in. Do you realize the older sibs are questioning why Omarr was not thrown out of his house yet? They are also working with a person who as been accused of defrauding the estate.

[Edited 11/3/17 11:36am]

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Reply #133 posted 11/03/17 11:39am

ecnirp98

laurarichardson said:

ecnirp98 said:

If a will is written correctly, legally wise, they can contest but they will not win.

I never knew he left instructions for his ashes etc.

It is not about winning it about being spitful and keeping things tied up in court. Please take a look at the James Brown estate and the Ray Charles estate. Prince knew what his butthole sibs would try to pull. Just look at what they are doing right now. Dragging the estate back to court and trying to change the estate admins for a thrid time in less then two years.

This is just as bad as contesting but at least the court can rein them in.

Yeah, maybe he did have a plan and knew what he was doing afterall, all seems a mess and allot of heresay that cannot be backed up, like Tyka's statements.

I've not really read much on the legal battles, it's just depressing, I tried to focus on the music. It just always baffled me with Prince being such a control freak, I cannot believe he did not leave his intentions clear, but maybe he knew that would cause issues.

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Reply #134 posted 11/03/17 11:42am

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laurarichardson said:

Thank you. People missed the part where Tyka said he wanted to his ashes at PP and he left her task. Those older sibs would have contested a will as soon as soon as possible.

If a will is written correctly, legally wise, they can contest but they will not win.

I never knew he left instructions for his ashes etc.

she says it in the recent bbc interview.

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Reply #135 posted 11/03/17 11:45am

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he knew tyka loved him, no matter how much or little they talked. he knew.

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It is not about winning it about being spitful and keeping things tied up in court. Please take a look at the James Brown estate and the Ray Charles estate. Prince knew what his butthole sibs would try to pull. Just look at what they are doing right now. Dragging the estate back to court and trying to change the estate admins for a thrid time in less then two years.

This is just as bad as contesting but at least the court can rein them in.

Yeah, maybe he did have a plan and knew what he was doing afterall, all seems a mess and allot of heresay that cannot be backed up, like Tyka's statements.

I've not really read much on the legal battles, it's just depressing, I tried to focus on the music. It just always baffled me with Prince being such a control freak, I cannot believe he did not leave his intentions clear, but maybe he knew that would cause issues.

Her statements are factual other people have said they received e-mails about PP. Why would she make this stuff up? She is not going to get anymore money by making up stuff in an interview.

In fact her comments did not even receive a lot of notice in the press at all.

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Reply #137 posted 11/03/17 12:00pm

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laurarichardson said:

ecnirp98 said:

Yeah, maybe he did have a plan and knew what he was doing afterall, all seems a mess and allot of heresay that cannot be backed up, like Tyka's statements.

I've not really read much on the legal battles, it's just depressing, I tried to focus on the music. It just always baffled me with Prince being such a control freak, I cannot believe he did not leave his intentions clear, but maybe he knew that would cause issues.

Her statements are factual other people have said they received e-mails about PP. Why would she make this stuff up? She is not going to get anymore money by making up stuff in an interview.

In fact her comments did not even receive a lot of notice in the press at all.

I'm not saying her statements aren't factual or she's making stuff up, just saying its a mess and knowing how Prince ran everything to his demands, its surprising he didn't make it very clear.

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Reply #138 posted 11/03/17 12:59pm

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ecnirp98 said:

laurarichardson said:

Her statements are factual other people have said they received e-mails about PP. Why would she make this stuff up? She is not going to get anymore money by making up stuff in an interview.

In fact her comments did not even receive a lot of notice in the press at all.

I'm not saying her statements aren't factual or she's making stuff up, just saying its a mess and knowing how Prince ran everything to his demands, its surprising he didn't make it very clear.

I think he did make it clear. He gave her directions and sent out directions to others. He had an LLC for his publishing, he had a contract with Tidal for his streaming, he had a license agreement with WB. with some of the music being licensed to WB forever.

If you make arrangements for something forever how much more planning can you do? Contracts do not expire because one party dies.

The WB deal is still in place and the Tidal is still in place. Paisley Park is open just as he wanted. He did not leave a rack of debts, lawsuits, or children. If LM and Breamer had not come along their would not have been any lawsuits.

I am not saying what he did was perfect but I think he understood the family dynamic better then we do and I think he may have known who the rats and judas were.

He certainly did not make things easy for maniputlating or controlling his music and I do not think it was a coincedence.

If those older sibs had inherited there would be a fire sale right now. They have made it clear they want their disbursements and I do not think they have interest in continuing to run any of the businesses.

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Reply #139 posted 11/03/17 2:19pm

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ecnirp98 said:

I'm not saying her statements aren't factual or she's making stuff up, just saying its a mess and knowing how Prince ran everything to his demands, its surprising he didn't make it very clear.

I think he did make it clear. He gave her directions and sent out directions to others. He had an LLC for his publishing, he had a contract with Tidal for his streaming, he had a license agreement with WB. with some of the music being licensed to WB forever.

If you make arrangements for something forever how much more planning can you do? Contracts do not expire because one party dies.

The WB deal is still in place and the Tidal is still in place. Paisley Park is open just as he wanted. He did not leave a rack of debts, lawsuits, or children. If LM and Breamer had not come along their would not have been any lawsuits.

I am not saying what he did was perfect but I think he understood the family dynamic better then we do and I think he may have known who the rats and judas were.

He certainly did not make things easy for maniputlating or controlling his music and I do not think it was a coincedence.

If those older sibs had inherited there would be a fire sale right now. They have made it clear they want their disbursements and I do not think they have interest in continuing to run any of the businesses.

You´re making some very valid points. However, wouldn´t it have been much easier to leave a will so that those who were closer to him get at least something, and things would not just be left to ALL his remaining family members but also to people like Larry Graham, close friends, close relatives etc. instead of just letting a court divide and distribute his assets ?

Just curious.

I know you gave examples such as Ray Charles, James Brown etc. and how their heirs are still fighting despite a will.

But.....isn´t a will meant to stop such fights in the first place? If the deceased person´s will can be contested, then what sense does it make to write a will?

I´m really surprised to see that some half siblings who weren´t ever in the picture when he was alive now get a piece of the big pie whereas some close friends, band members, ex girlfriends etc. get nothing. It just does not seem fair to me but that´s just my opinion. And like you wrote above, some of them don´t really seem to care about his legacy or his music or continuing the business aspects.

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Reply #140 posted 11/03/17 2:29pm

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KoolEaze said:

You´re making some very valid points. However, wouldn´t it have been much easier to leave a will so that those who were closer to him get at least something, and things would not just be left to ALL his remaining family members but also to people like Larry Graham, close friends, close relatives etc. instead of just letting a court divide and distribute his assets ?

Just curious.

I know you gave examples such as Ray Charles, James Brown etc. and how their heirs are still fighting despite a will.

But.....isn´t a will meant to stop such fights in the first place? If the deceased person´s will can be contested, then what sense does it make to write a will?

I´m really surprised to see that some half siblings who weren´t ever in the picture when he was alive now get a piece of the big pie whereas some close friends, band members, ex girlfriends etc. get nothing. It just does not seem fair to me but that´s just my opinion. And like you wrote above, some of them don´t really seem to care about his legacy or his music or continuing the business aspects.

He gave what he wanted to give to his close friends while he was alive, he gave to the charities also while he was alive. Look at how many medical bills he has paid for his friends, look at the houses his friends and family lived in on his dime.

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Reply #141 posted 11/03/17 3:01pm

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PennyPurple said:



KoolEaze said:






You´re making some very valid points. However, wouldn´t it have been much easier to leave a will so that those who were closer to him get at least something, and things would not just be left to ALL his remaining family members but also to people like Larry Graham, close friends, close relatives etc. instead of just letting a court divide and distribute his assets ?


Just curious.


I know you gave examples such as Ray Charles, James Brown etc. and how their heirs are still fighting despite a will.


But.....isn´t a will meant to stop such fights in the first place? If the deceased person´s will can be contested, then what sense does it make to write a will?


I´m really surprised to see that some half siblings who weren´t ever in the picture when he was alive now get a piece of the big pie whereas some close friends, band members, ex girlfriends etc. get nothing. It just does not seem fair to me but that´s just my opinion. And like you wrote above, some of them don´t really seem to care about his legacy or his music or continuing the business aspects.



He gave what he wanted to give to his close friends while he was alive, he gave to the charities also while he was alive. Look at how many medical bills he has paid for his friends, look at the houses his friends and family lived in on his dime.


Exactly he did plenty for charity and he took care of grown ass adults for long periods. I hope none expected to be taken care of beyond the grave. Also remember if you inherit money you have to pay taxes on it. I would take having a 50k to pay a hospital bill over having half it gone to taxes.
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Reply #142 posted 11/03/17 4:32pm

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purplefam99 said:



PennyPurple said:




TheEnglishGent said:


Just after he died, she said she'd known for two years, now it's three. This is where the terminal illness theories sprung up from. Just because he died from the accidental overdose, that doesn't rule out that he might have had an existing terminal condition.

Also, wonder what song it was?



The way I'm taking it is after he died she said that she had known for 2 years. The 3 years is coming into play because he's been gone for over a year now. That's why she is saying 3 years, because it has been 3.



or it was 2 and 1/2 years before his death and she is rounding to 3. this stuff is stressful, recalling


up painful stuff cause interviewers thirst for answers. Prince wasn't gonna give his memoirs away


for free, why should she, maybe he even entrusted her to tell his story and she has his memoir notes.


[Edited 11/1/17 8:03am]


She said: "So it took an actual 3 years from the time I got the call at McDonalds for 3 years so when I got the call that he had passed" I take it as she knew for 3 years and changed the story, it has nothing to do with him being gone for over a year. I think it get really confusing every time she opens her mouth lol
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Thunder, all through the night
Promise to see Jesus in the morning light
Take my hand, it'll be alright
C'mon save your soul tonight
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Reply #143 posted 11/03/17 4:53pm

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MIRvmn said:

purplefam99 said:



PennyPurple said:




TheEnglishGent said:


Just after he died, she said she'd known for two years, now it's three. This is where the terminal illness theories sprung up from. Just because he died from the accidental overdose, that doesn't rule out that he might have had an existing terminal condition.

Also, wonder what song it was?



The way I'm taking it is after he died she said that she had known for 2 years. The 3 years is coming into play because he's been gone for over a year now. That's why she is saying 3 years, because it has been 3.



or it was 2 and 1/2 years before his death and she is rounding to 3. this stuff is stressful, recalling


up painful stuff cause interviewers thirst for answers. Prince wasn't gonna give his memoirs away


for free, why should she, maybe he even entrusted her to tell his story and she has his memoir notes.


[Edited 11/1/17 8:03am]


She said: "So it took an actual 3 years from the time I got the call at McDonalds for 3 years so when I got the call that he had passed" I take it as she knew for 3 years and changed the story, it has nothing to do with him being gone for over a year. I think it get really confusing every time she opens her mouth lol
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It does not matter if it was 3 or 2. The point is she is saying he sent her an e-mail and a song and she knew from that.
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Reply #144 posted 11/03/17 5:32pm

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MIRvmn said:

purplefam99 said:

or it was 2 and 1/2 years before his death and she is rounding to 3. this stuff is stressful, recalling

up painful stuff cause interviewers thirst for answers. Prince wasn't gonna give his memoirs away

for free, why should she, maybe he even entrusted her to tell his story and she has his memoir notes.

[Edited 11/1/17 8:03am]

She said: "So it took an actual 3 years from the time I got the call at McDonalds for 3 years so when I got the call that he had passed" I take it as she knew for 3 years and changed the story, it has nothing to do with him being gone for over a year. I think it get really confusing every time she opens her mouth lol [Edited 11/3/17 16:34pm]

No, she hasn't changed her story. When she first told us this, after he passed, it was 2 years. But another year has been added since he died, that makes it 3.


What is so hard to understand about this? From NOW, to when he told her it has been 3 years. Right after he passed, she made this comment which would've been 2 years.

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Reply #145 posted 11/03/17 6:42pm

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PennyPurple said:

MIRvmn said:

purplefam99 said: She said: "So it took an actual 3 years from the time I got the call at McDonalds for 3 years so when I got the call that he had passed" I take it as she knew for 3 years and changed the story, it has nothing to do with him being gone for over a year. I think it get really confusing every time she opens her mouth lol [Edited 11/3/17 16:34pm]

No, she hasn't changed her story. When she first told us this, after he passed, it was 2 years. But another year has been added since he died, that makes it 3.


What is so hard to understand about this? From NOW, to when he told her it has been 3 years. Right after he passed, she made this comment which would've been 2 years.

Because is not what she said last week. She is now saying 3 years before he died, before she was saying 2. She may have misspoken but this is what she said. Not from now.

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Reply #146 posted 11/03/17 6:44pm

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PennyPurple said:

ecnirp98 said:

My comments was more that if Prince knew he was (possibly) coming towards his end (as Tyka claims as he let close people be aware 3 years in advance) when struggling with pain/addiction, then you would think he would have put his plans/will in order, just on the chance things go bad, if he can send pictures and songs to close family showing this, he can engage a high powered lawyer to write his intentions down, which all he had to do was review and sign.

You don't have to write a will because you think you are about to die, Prince lived in a very high profile world, lots of looneys out there who could have taken him out, he also travelled allot with touring etc, he lived in a higher risk lifestyle than most, so you'd think he would have left a will.

The shock of when he passed out on the plane a few days before his death and was rushed to hospital to be brought round should have been enough of a jolt to make him think he was close to the edge, especially as he was lucky to have people with him at the time, being on his own at PP at that point was a massive risk for him, something unfortunately he paid the price for.

He knew. He made plans. He wrote those plans down, he sent e-mails. Tyka knew exactly what to do. He wanted PP as a museum, he laid out detailed plans for it. He wanted to be cremated and fast and gave Tyka instructions on that too. He wanted his ashes at PP, he gave instructions on that. He kept his music safe. He didn't have a will, and really what good would a will have done, when you have older siblings who would tie it up in court.


He left instructions for several people.

He didn't have any proper estate planning, and he didn't leave a will (which would have also saved a lot of money in taxes). The siblings that you say he didn't want to have a say are now the beneficiaries of the estate. Those close to him have been left nothing. None of this indicates that Prince knew his death was imminent. At all.

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Reply #147 posted 11/03/17 6:51pm

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leecaldon said:

PennyPurple said:

He knew. He made plans. He wrote those plans down, he sent e-mails. Tyka knew exactly what to do. He wanted PP as a museum, he laid out detailed plans for it. He wanted to be cremated and fast and gave Tyka instructions on that too. He wanted his ashes at PP, he gave instructions on that. He kept his music safe. He didn't have a will, and really what good would a will have done, when you have older siblings who would tie it up in court.


He left instructions for several people.

He didn't have any proper estate planning, and he didn't leave a will (which would have also saved a lot of money in taxes). The siblings that you say he didn't want to have a say are now the beneficiaries of the estate. Those close to him have been left nothing. None of this indicates that Prince knew his death was imminent. At all.

Ummm...where did I say that in the above quote?? Who was close to him, that has been left nothing? Why does he have to leave something to people who are close to him? Nobody is guaranteed anything in this life or the next.

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Reply #148 posted 11/04/17 5:05am

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Menes said:



2004Fan said:




laurarichardson said:



There have been rumors from the very begining and no one plans to die from an overdose eek




I know and I agree. I just would like to know how ElephantsNFlowers came to be aware that Prince had cancer.



Well , people can, and have pre determined, death by suicide, more specifically, by taking a pill to end it. Some of the most infmaous Nazi leaders pre-arranged the event( to die by cyanide poison) long before the actual act took place.



That would make sense. I take a lot of meds for historical cancer and they monitor my liver function to the enth. Princes was probably hammered
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Reply #149 posted 11/04/17 5:08am

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RJOrion said:

no one here knows what happened, or what was happenning... Tyka is his full-blood sister, and has communicated with Prince more than anyone at this site could even wish to...to attack her as full of shit or liar or delusional is unjustified...no matter how farfetched her words may seem sometimes...its obvious something bad (healthwise) was going on with P, since the AOA lp...but thats THEIR family business and they have no obligation to satiate our natural voyeuristic tendencies...



Fine...but on the whol peoples point hear is why say so much yet so little. Pretend you don't know anything then. It's actually not just irritating but incredibly bad behaviour

If prince was ill Tyka is just having her cake and eat it
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