malbena said:

laurarichardson said:

Actually Tyka said he took her to different rehabs until they found the right one and that he even came to see her on visitor day and went to the counselor sessions with her.

She did take down notices for him and she travelled with him. They got to be closer in the last 15 years or so.

That is what she said!

Am I to understand we are to believe what you say and not what she says? I'm confused about this argument.

morningsong said:

malbena said:

That is what she said!

Am I to understand we are to believe what you say and not what she says? I'm confused about this argument.

It does take much to confuse you if your sole purpose is contradiction. My response to your question is believe whatever the h... you wish. But in either case, there is no data or reliable source to back it up.

I'm simply refuting hearsay while giving my opinion and not what Prince did or did not do, say or did not say, serenaded or not....only him knows that and he is no longer around to verify anything.

malbena said:

morningsong said:

Am I to understand we are to believe what you say and not what she says? I'm confused about this argument.

It does take much to confuse you if your sole purpose is contradiction. My response to your question is believe whatever the h... you wish. But in either case, there is no data or reliable source to back it up.

I'm simply refuting hearsay while giving my opinion and not what Prince did or did not do, say or did not say, serenaded or not....only him knows that and he is no longer around to verify anything.

Okay Tyka had a book out a few years ago and she did a few interviews to promote the book. I certainly recall reading this information in those interviews. I will see if I can find them as I believe this was discussed on the org.

One of the things I get tired of on this board is the idea that because the link is not provided the information must be made up. What sort of nutball would make up this rehab story and for what reason? Just think about that for a moment.

malbena said:

morningsong said:

Am I to understand we are to believe what you say and not what she says? I'm confused about this argument.

It does take much to confuse you if your sole purpose is contradiction. My response to your question is believe whatever the h... you wish. But in either case, there is no data or reliable source to back it up.

I'm simply refuting hearsay while giving my opinion and not what Prince did or did not do, say or did not say, serenaded or not....only him knows that and he is no longer around to verify anything.

Ok, then I'll take what his sister said.

malbena said:

morningsong said:

Am I to understand we are to believe what you say and not what she says? I'm confused about this argument.

It does take much to confuse you if your sole purpose is contradiction. My response to your question is believe whatever the h... you wish. But in either case, there is no data or reliable source to back it up.

I'm simply refuting hearsay while giving my opinion and not what Prince did or did not do, say or did not say, serenaded or not....only him knows that and he is no longer around to verify anything.

Please see the proof you so desperatly needed below. I am not sure why you would not believe he would not take his sister to rehab. This guy paid for people's medical bills and funerals he did not even know from Adam. One of the reason I am amazed that people take everything that Mayte is saying for the truth. If he buned her stuff it was for a reason and I suspect if he were alive and knew she had MS he would be doing something to help her. He does not appear to have be stingy with his money.

http://prince.org/msg/5/150956

Solaris said:

lovesexy123 said:

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[color=darkred][/color]Does anyone have this??? I would love to hear if she is as talented as her brother is. Anyone???

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Maybe this isn't what you wanted to hear. Hopefully, this worked out for the best.



PRINCE HELPS SISTER CLEAN UP

PRINCE's sister has paid tribute to the pop superstar for helping her kick her addiction to crack cocaine.

Mother-of-two TYKA NELSON, 43, fears she wouldn't be alive today if it weren't for her brother's help and generosity.

Nelson claims the PURPLE RAIN hitmaker helped her financially and recently enrolled her in a drug rehabilitation programme once he realised how much trouble she was in.

She says, "I relapsed once, but I've been clean for three months now. It's the longest I've been sober and drug-free in years."

16/09/2003 09:20
Here's the article.
http://www.contactmusic.c...clean%20up

Prince Helps Sister Clean Up

By World Entertainment News Network on 16 September 2003

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Picture: Prince item gets auctione...- 19.05.07

Prince's sister has paid tribute to the pop superstar for helping her kick her addiction to crack cocaine.

Mother-of-two TYKA NELSON, 43, fears she wouldn't be alive today if it weren't for her brother's help and generosity.

Nelson claims the Purple Rain hitmaker helped her financially and recently enrolled her in a drug rehabilitation programme once he realised how much trouble she was in.

laurarichardson said:

malbena said:

It does take much to confuse you if your sole purpose is contradiction. My response to your question is believe whatever the h... you wish. But in either case, there is no data or reliable source to back it up.

I'm simply refuting hearsay while giving my opinion and not what Prince did or did not do, say or did not say, serenaded or not....only him knows that and he is no longer around to verify anything.

Okay Tyka had a book out a few years ago and she did a few interviews to promote the book. I certainly recall reading this information in those interviews. I will see if I can find them as I believe this was discussed on the org.

One of the things I get tired of on this board is the idea that because the link is not provided the information must be made up. What sort of nutball would make up this rehab story and for what reason? Just think about that for a moment.

What kind of nut job would say that Mayte had an abortion instead of a D & C for a miscarriage? Or...wasn't really married to Prince, Or...wasn't really divorced from Prince...or didn't need pain pills after a C-Section, I could go on and on.....

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

Never said I needed a link. Just that it is her side of the story. Why believing one and not another.

morningsong said:

Thank you! Hopefully, you'll give me a break now.

purplerabbithole said:

So Prince engaged in pedophilia? Did he? And he was 'abusive' in the physical sense?

Its not just about Prince and Mayte. Its about his fans. Let them some illusions while honoring his contributions on the anniversary of his death. Mayte has plenty of time to tell her story and air out old grievances. Maybe, he has a little bit of it coming. But now?

Plus, Prince deserves a fair trial. NOt cherry picked (one-sided) details carelessly being thrown about.

PennyPurple said:

If Prince hadn't of done any of those things, there would be no need for headlines.

The folks that are exploiting Prince's death in the guise of doing it "out of love" weren't in Prince's life in the last 15 years and judging by their actions, I can see why Prince didn't want anything to do with them.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

Okay Tyka had a book out a few years ago and she did a few interviews to promote the book. I certainly recall reading this information in those interviews. I will see if I can find them as I believe this was discussed on the org.

One of the things I get tired of on this board is the idea that because the link is not provided the information must be made up. What sort of nutball would make up this rehab story and for what reason? Just think about that for a moment.

What kind of nut job would say that Mayte had an abortion instead of a D & C for a miscarriage? Or...wasn't really married to Prince, Or...wasn't really divorced from Prince...or didn't need pain pills after a C-Section, I could go on and on.....

1) I questioned her marrigae because no one has produced a license. It was just a question. I never said they were not married at all. I also questioned why no one can find their divorce.

2) I question her D&C story because it is fucking ridculous and makes no damm sense. She is leaving something out.

3) I still do not know anyone that would need pain pills weeks after having a C-Section. I know this from my own experience and from other people I know. I have no treshold for pain and I did not need any meds after a day or two in the hospital. She has to be lying or she had some other surgerical procedure that required a longer incision and more.

I know about the type of pain one can have from a wider and longer surgerical procedure that you really do need to be on pain meds for weeks.

See the article above. I do not make up shit. I ask questions when things are not logical. A lot of Mayte has said seems suspect to me as she never appears to have made a mistake or bad move the entire marriage which to me is not possible.

malbena said:

laurarichardson said:

Actually Tyka said he took her to different rehabs until they found the right one and that he even came to see her on visitor day and went to the counselor sessions with her.

She did take down notices for him and she travelled with him. They got to be closer in the last 15 years or so.

That is what she said!

No that is not only what she said. There were eyewitness accounts from org members who physically saw Tyka at PP and in Baltimore. Members here have confirmed getting takedown notices from her as well.

Tyka also talked about him getting her into rehab in that old tabloid interview.

malbena said:

laurarichardson said:

Okay Tyka had a book out a few years ago and she did a few interviews to promote the book. I certainly recall reading this information in those interviews. I will see if I can find them as I believe this was discussed on the org.

One of the things I get tired of on this board is the idea that because the link is not provided the information must be made up. What sort of nutball would make up this rehab story and for what reason? Just think about that for a moment.

Never said I needed a link. Just that it is her side of the story. Why believing one and not another.

Why would she say he took her to rehab if he did not? What would be the reason and your sure do not have a problem with believing Mayte's crap. I think you want to believe negative stuff.

bashraka said:

purplerabbithole said:

So Prince engaged in pedophilia? Did he? And he was 'abusive' in the physical sense?

Its not just about Prince and Mayte. Its about his fans. Let them some illusions while honoring his contributions on the anniversary of his death. Mayte has plenty of time to tell her story and air out old grievances. Maybe, he has a little bit of it coming. But now?

Plus, Prince deserves a fair trial. NOt cherry picked (one-sided) details carelessly being thrown about.

The folks that are exploiting Prince's death in the guise of doing it "out of love" weren't in Prince's life in the last 15 years and judging by their actions, I can see why Prince didn't want anything to do with them.

He was trying to get away from those two crazy ass women. Can anyone explain how he managed to stay friends with so many women he knew for years but had no contact with his ex-wives?

Just packed up his shit and wanted nothing to do with them.

malbena said:

wonder505 said:

You may not have seen them around Prince but that does not mean they have not been around Prince. correct?

Just like they may have given their blessings to Mayte even we have not seen them do so

Wrong. Since she is the one who made it a point to mention having Tyka and Omarr's blessing and we know that PP has declilned to have her at the celebration, that is a contradiction that needs to be addressed.

I realize that the OP isn't an investigative reporter and is subject to the editor's decisions but that is a detail that should have been inclulded because M1 is using their names as an endorsement.

Empress said:

wonder505 said:

You're right. She doesnt.

Nor does she need the folks on this site to believe or approve of her story.

Thank you.

BillieBalloon said:

iwantcandy said:

My editor cutting that part isn't a red flag. I can tell you right now my editor didn't call up Tyka like "Hey gurl..." It was edited for length and to fit the vertical it was placed in, which was Parenting. I usually write for the Entertainment vertical, and when I submitted the piece I knew she would have to cut a lot out. I requested she leave in as much as possible about fan reaction, rumors, etc. as space allowed, but not everything could be kept, and I understand that. My editor also isn't on the org or LSA reading how everyone is dissecting this book. While we think that detail is super important, the general public who isn't a hardcore Prince fam neither knows who Tyka and Omarr are nor cares what they think of the book, kwim?

Edited for spelling

[Edited 4/11/17 20:19pm]

You didnt answer the question. How did Tyka and Omar communicate to Mayte that she had their blessing? Thanks. . [Edited 4/12/17 7:56am]

Agreed.

I would even go so far as to say that the general public who aren't hard core Prince fans don't know who Mayte is either so that isn't really a valid reason.

wonder505 said:

iwantcandy said:

My editor cutting that part isn't a red flag. I can tell you right now my editor didn't call up Tyka like "Hey gurl..." It was edited for length and to fit the vertical it was placed in, which was Parenting. I usually write for the Entertainment vertical, and when I submitted the piece I knew she would have to cut a lot out. I requested she leave in as much as possible about fan reaction, rumors, etc. as space allowed, but not everything could be kept, and I understand that. My editor also isn't on the org or LSA reading how everyone is dissecting this book. While we think that detail is super important, the general public who isn't a hardcore Prince fam neither knows who Tyka and Omarr are nor cares what they think of the book, kwim?

Edited for spelling

[Edited 4/11/17 20:19pm]

I think it would matter to the public to know if Prince's family supported this book or not, but take away the public, you interviewed her right? and you know who Tyka and Omarr are. They are the heirs to Prince's estate. and they are in the news. Why didn't you press her on how this blessing was communicated to her? Also, her answer in addressing the fans makes no sense. Since you interviewed her can you explain her answer? All I got from it was it was her story and we dont know him, then she goes off talking abot play dates and socializing. How does this address the question about the timing of the release of this book and Prince's privacy? I'm not attacking you by no means, I just asking for clarity. Thanks.

Let's just say I pity Mayte and Manuela the day they come across a journalist who is a die hard Prince fan and know what's up and will cut to the chase and through the BS.

[Edited 4/12/17 7:20am]

babynoz said:

malbena said:

That is what she said!

No that is not only what she said. There were eyewitness accounts from org members who physically saw Tyka at PP and in Baltimore. Members here have confirmed getting takedown notices from her as well.

Tyka also talked about him getting her into rehab in that old tabloid interview.

Oh I'm not talking about only referring to her being physically there and I do believe Prince's paid of his health bills because he was a good man and she was his blood.

What she states in interview however is her side of the story. Now, is this implying that she now has power over who gets to say what to whom, and where. Or is it because she is his family, we automatically have to side with her

The one part I will respect however is that she is his sister, his blood, and his family but that does not lead me to accept all decisions as if they were blessed by Prince himself.

laurarichardson said:

malbena said:

laurarichardson said: Never said I needed a link. Just that it is her side of the story. Why believing one and not another.

Why would she say he took her to rehab if he did not? What would be the reason and your sure do not have a problem with believing Mayte's crap. I think you want to believe negative stuff.

No, I do not want to believe negative stuff about anyone. Just trying to find a just middle in who to believe and for what reason.

Please don't be too quick in jumping into conclusions by judging people that fast.

babynoz said:

malbena said:

Just like they may have given their blessings to Mayte even we have not seen them do so

Wrong. Since she is the one who made it a point to mention having Tyka and Omarr's blessing and we know that PP has declilned to have her at the celebration, that is a contradiction that needs to be addressed.

I realize that the OP isn't an investigative reporter and is subject to the editor's decisions but that is a detail that should have been inclulded because M1 is using their names as an endorsement.

babynoz said:

malbena said:

Just like they may have given their blessings to Mayte even we have not seen them do so

Wrong. Since she is the one who made it a point to mention having Tyka and Omarr's blessing and we know that PP has declilned to have her at the celebration, that is a contradiction that needs to be addressed.

I realize that the OP isn't an investigative reporter and is subject to the editor's decisions but that is a detail that should have been inclulded because M1 is using their names as an endorsement.

But she was invited to dance at the public ceremony and this was approved by the family.

In all this, I ask that things don't get twisted and one rereads statements before jumping into quick responses. I'm not talking about you specifically BabyNoz. I do respect the family immensely for being his family.

[Edited 4/12/17 14:43pm]

malbena said:

babynoz said:

No that is not only what she said. There were eyewitness accounts from org members who physically saw Tyka at PP and in Baltimore. Members here have confirmed getting takedown notices from her as well.

Tyka also talked about him getting her into rehab in that old tabloid interview.

Oh I'm not talking about only referring to her being physically there and I do believe Prince's paid of his health bills because he was a good man and she was his blood.

What she states in interview however is her side of the story. Now, is this implying that she now has power over who gets to say what to whom, and where. Or is it because she is his family, we automatically have to side with her

The one part I will respect however is that she is his sister, his blood, and his family but that does not lead me to accept all decisions as if they were blessed by Prince himself.

You are doing two things. 1. Reaching due to your emotions and 2. moving the goalpost....nice try but not today,

You specifically made a specious statement that Tyka and Omarr haven't been seen around Prince for years with absolutely NO basis for that comment.

Malbena said:
"I know it doesn't matter to me personally whether Tyka and Omarr gave their blessings or not because they have not been seen around Prince the past years."



I simply countered by reminding you that it isn't just HER side of the story because members of this site have mentioned seeing her.

Furthermore the ONLY reason people are asking about Tyka and Omarr is not to imply that she needed their approval. It is because MAYTE GARCIA SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT SHE HAD THEIR APPROVAL.

SHE is the one who brought them up, not us.

babynoz said:

I own the first one. Indeed I had no clue they had been spotted a couple of times. My bad!
I stand by the fact that with or without their blessings, Mayte can write her book.

malbena said:

babynoz said:

Wrong. Since she is the one who made it a point to mention having Tyka and Omarr's blessing and we know that PP has declilned to have her at the celebration, that is a contradiction that needs to be addressed.

I realize that the OP isn't an investigative reporter and is subject to the editor's decisions but that is a detail that should have been inclulded because M1 is using their names as an endorsement.

But she was invited to dance at the public ceremony and this was approved by the family.

In all this, I ask that things don't get twisted and one rereads statements before jumping into quick responses. I'm not talking about you specifically BabyNoz. I do respect the family immensely for being his family.

[Edited 4/12/17 14:43pm]

That event took place before the book release is not proof of endorsement of said book, which is what she said.


I believe that NO ONE who puts themselves out there in the public arena is above criticism, no exceptions. That goes for every one of Prince's former associates, sister wives, side chicks, wifeys, jumpoffs, band members, etc. ad infinitum.

malbena said:

babynoz said:

You are doing two things. 1. Reaching due to your emotions and 2. moving the goalpost....nice try but not today,

You specifically made a specious statement that Tyka and Omarr haven't been seen around Prince for years with absolutely NO basis for that comment.

Malbena said:
"I know it doesn't matter to me personally whether Tyka and Omarr gave their blessings or not because they have not been seen around Prince the past years."



I simply countered by reminding you that it isn't just HER side of the story because members of this site have mentioned seeing her.

Furthermore the ONLY reason people are asking about Tyka and Omarr is not to imply that she needed their approval. It is because MAYTE GARCIA SPECIFICALLY STATED THAT SHE HAD THEIR APPROVAL.

SHE is the one who brought them up, not us.

I own the first one. Indeed I had no clue they had been spotted a couple of times. My bad! I stand by the fact that with or without their blessings, Mayte can write her book.

And you will never find a single sentence anywhere on this site where I say that she cannot.

All I have ever said is that she has NO right to expect that she will not be criticized and neither do her supporters. The public also have the right to say what they think of said book.

Mumio said:

babynoz said:

Wrong. Since she is the one who made it a point to mention having Tyka and Omarr's blessing and we know that PP has declilned to have her at the celebration, that is a contradiction that needs to be addressed.

I realize that the OP isn't an investigative reporter and is subject to the editor's decisions but that is a detail that should have been inclulded because M1 is using their names as an endorsement.

Hey you!

babynoz said:

...Which is not stopping her apparently. She is going full blown now.

I'm not her fan but the attacks I have witnessed against her went too far. This led me to look at her enemies in a different light.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

What kind of nut job would say that Mayte had an abortion instead of a D & C for a miscarriage? Or...wasn't really married to Prince, Or...wasn't really divorced from Prince...or didn't need pain pills after a C-Section, I could go on and on.....

1) I questioned her marrigae because no one has produced a license. It was just a question. I never said they were not married at all. I also questioned why no one can find their divorce.

2) I question her D&C story because it is fucking ridculous and makes no damm sense. She is leaving something out.

3) I still do not know anyone that would need pain pills weeks after having a C-Section. I know this from my own experience and from other people I know. I have no treshold for pain and I did not need any meds after a day or two in the hospital. She has to be lying or she had some other surgerical procedure that required a longer incision and more.

I know about the type of pain one can have from a wider and longer surgerical procedure that you really do need to be on pain meds for weeks.

See the article above. I do not make up shit. I ask questions when things are not logical. A lot of Mayte has said seems suspect to me as she never appears to have made a mistake or bad move the entire marriage which to me is not possible.

No, you make shit up. It's all been explained to you time and time again. I even produced their marriage certificate and explained to you why you can't see the license. Just because you can't find their divorce doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And a miscarriage is the reason why she had the D&C, she never had an abortion. People do get pain pills after C-Sections. I know this for a FACT & and who are you to judge those who do get pain pills after surgery?

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You imply all these things and they don't even mimic the truth. You imply so much crap on this forum, and you don't even know what you are talking about 1/2 the time.

malbena said:

babynoz said:

And you will never find a single sentence anywhere on this site where I say that she cannot.

All I have ever said is that she has NO right to expect that she will not be criticized and neither do her supporters. The public also have the right to say what they think of said book.

...Which is not stopping her apparently. She is going full blown now. I'm not her fan but the attacks I have witnessed against her went too far. This led me to look at her enemies in a different light.

Meh, I care not one whit about her or anybody else who willingly puts themselves out there getting attacked.That's life in the big city and Mayte will deal, period. She made her own choice and is apparently willing to live with the consequences.

If the backlash from her choice puts you in your feelings, then so be it.