Latin said:

The Current published today a new interview with Susannah Melvoin focusing on Prince. The full interview is available to listen to here: http://blog.thecurrent.or...nd-coffee/

Thanks for the link will check this out.

This is such a precious story.

Starfish and Coffee is a great song from SOTT, and I enjoyed listening and reading about the story behind it. The Family is one of my fav Prince side projects, and I hope one day they can use the name again, because fDeluxe just quite fit them. I also checked out Susannah's webpage http://starfishcoffeeoffi...e.com/home and I must say, its pretty well put together. Those T'shirts, singlets and mugs look pretty sweet

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CalhounSq said:

Just read it earlier today, good read. I should pay more attention to the liner notes, had no idea what the inspiration was. Nice

Vee0319 said:

CalhounSq said:

Just read it earlier today, good read. I should pay more attention to the liner notes, had no idea what the inspiration was. Nice

I love the Starfish and Coffee video.

CalhounSq said:

I don't remember it. When I can handle it, I need to revisit so many things.

i hear u. i still can't watch the superbowl performance.

Vee0319 said:

CalhounSq said:

Just read it earlier today, good read. I should pay more attention to the liner notes, had no idea what the inspiration was. Nice

I love the Starfish and Coffee video.

I wrote this essay before Prince passed away, and there was a lot of response. Prince really liked it. He said, “Not many people know how to write about me.”

I really like that, the story is almost entirely not about him, he just writes the song at the end of it. I wonder if that's a bit of an insight into how he wanted to be viewed?

Ray Davies has said something similar about his music, he has said the songs he wrote are much better than he is as a person, he could never personally live up to what he has put out.

wavesofbliss said:

jaawwnn said:

CalhounSq said:

jaawwnn said:

I wrote this essay before Prince passed away, and there was a lot of response. Prince really liked it. He said, “Not many people know how to write about me.”

I really like that, the story is almost entirely not about him, he just writes the song at the end of it. I wonder if that's a bit of an insight into how he wanted to be viewed?

Ray Davies has said something similar about his music, he has said the songs he wrote are much better than he is as a person, he could never personally live up to what he has put out.

Wow, interesting! Never heard that, very interesting take.

He's said it a few times in interviews i've seen, here's one of them:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-2960390/Ray-Davies-punch-ups-pills-Kinks-nearly-killed-him.html

‘My work is better than I am,’ he admits. ‘I just don’t live up to it. I’d love to be as good as Waterloo Sunset.’

You had to be involved in his work ethic. He spent so much time alone, he was so private, but at the same time he would demand that you become part of that privacy —

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I like this. This is what it felt like to watch a Prince video or even be at a show back then, it seems like you were watching a private party

Latin said:

The Current published today a new interview with Susannah Melvoin focusing on Prince. The full interview is available to listen to here: http://blog.thecurrent.or...nd-coffee/

Hmmm, ‘hidden tenderness’? Well, I think that’s very nice and perhaps not all that surprising, given the tenderness Prince expressed musically and lyrically. However, I can’t help but reflect bitterly that it must have been very well hidden indeed from her sister at the time.

I can still vividly remember the shock of reading a quote by Wendy in a biography I read way back around 98 in which she described Prince with respect his relationship to Susannah as being ‘nasty’ and ‘horrible’, which at the time I found pretty alarming and disquieting, not least because Susannah was reputedly the great love of his life that had inspired such moving, love-drenched songs. It kinda burst my nice little fantasy Prince-can-do-no-wrong bubble, and made me feel more wary of him.

I wouldn’t have minded asking Susannah about that (well, at least prior to a change of wind circa 2002), in the hope she may have reassured me about my misgivings, but never had the opportunity sadly.

Ironically, Susannah was making an appearance at a local record shop, when I was in Minneapolis last month (blinking typical!), but I didn’t go, as it would be pretty much pointless now. Even if I had bumped into her many years ago, I guess she’d probably have told me to skip off and mind my own sodding business…and quite right too!

GrayDorian said:

luvgirl said:

luvgirl said:

luvgirl said:

Do u remember what book that was?

wendy says something similiar in 'let's go crazy' by alan light. in that book susannah says that she stepped back from prince during the PR tour bcos of his womanizing. jill jones describeed the situation by saying that it was like prince had names on a dial andhe would spin it to decide who he was gonna be with.

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i do believe that prince had a tender heart. and that he loved people with his music. his womanizing,controlling behavior had to do with his fear that they would leave him like his mom did. coupled with having been a bitchy rock start all of his adult life, i'm sure prince's sense of entitlement was off the chart!

wavesofbliss said:

laurarichardson said:

luvgirl said:

laurarichardson said:

luvgirl said:

So true. I always wondered why everyone always made such a big deal about Prince and all his women, when rock stars like Motley Crew, Led Zep, Rolling Stones and even the Beatles seemed to be just as wild or even more so.

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No! Disagree. It doesn't make it okay to treat people (women) like that, whether you are Prince, Motley Crew, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles and so on! Race has nothing to do with it - it's just not cool. Even if this was the 80s and the way women were treated and looked upon was different, it still wasn't ok. And MJ, for example, didn't play that game!

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And the fact that people make such a big deal of it, is because there are plenty of examples of artists that don't treat women disrespectfully.You are comparing Prince to the worst offenders, but it just depends on what side you are looking on.

Heidi said:

Heidi said:

laurarichardson said:

luvgirl said: --- Race .

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No! Disagree. It doesn't make it okay to treat people (women) like that, whether you are Prince, Motley Crew, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles and so on! Race has nothing to do with it - it's just not cool. Even if this was the 80s and the way women were treated and looked upon was different, it still wasn't ok. And MJ, for example, didn't play that game!

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And the fact that people make such a big deal of it, is because there are plenty of examples of artists that don't treat women disrespectfully.You are comparing Prince to the worst offenders, but it just depends on what side you are looking on.

I never said race made it okay. I am saying those rock bands behavior is sweept under the rug and I believe overtime Prince's antics have been blown out of portion. You don't know much about Rock n Roll because men in that game have been treating women bad since the start of the Rock n Roll era.

Prince having a couple of girlfriends on the side is nothing compared to the stories out there. I doubt is any different today then it was in the 80s. I just finished reading Sugar Ray Leonard autobiograhpy and he talks about how many boxing groupies he ran around with back in the day and that he had a guy whose job it was to wrangle up the women. He said some women just like running around with atheltes and that it goes on in all sports. You don't think this goes on in music?

laurarichardson said:

this article doest really "say" much though does it...