allmusicfan123 said:

jayseajay said:

Co-sign

Yes

Also I like what you said Jayseajay about Mayte. She needs a break. The fact that she's never had another mate... I really don't think she's over him.

Glad JJ had closure, and if she somehow sees this, I hope she doesn't blame herself. Addicts cling to their addiction at the cost of friends and family. I had a couple of those in my family and I can't get too close to them now, it makes me too sad.

I choose to be around positive people.

Prince made many genius choices and some poor ones -- the wandering eye, pushing away people who truly loved him -- but he fulfilled his dream of lifelong music-making.

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You guys are great!

BlackBall said:

People aren't always jealous when they don't like something/someone. That is the simplified "reasoning" of 5th graders. I can't stand superficial money/fame grubbing dingbats like Mayte, MT or most of the long list of his sex objects because they were ignorant, talentless, oportunists who I would never give the time of day. However, following him meant being exposed to trash and the atrocious stripper dancing of Mayte whose main move consisted of thrusting her ass in his face. Go Mayte with your "female empowerment"! The fact that ppl continue to feel sorry for her shows how well her victim routine works. The only victim these days is her poor daughter whom she has used to try and fill the empty void in her life. Clearly Mayte manipulated P. into marriage thru "accidently" getting pregnant at the very time he was talking of marrying Nona Gaye. Is it any wonder he had hostility towards her that may have come out after the fetus died? No sweet "innocent" or loving person manipulates someone into marriage. He replaced M. with a slightly more intelligent (if u count calculating as intelligence) version with MT but she was no better or worse, just more of the same talentless starfuckers he attracted due to his goodheart and insecurities. Frankly, Bria is the ONLY one who has shown any class and was the one (who even at the time he was with her) seemed a bit different but not enough. Poor P. all this from those who claim to love him sooo much but were just parasites who now continue to feed off his fame.

With due respect, jealousy is not just "simplified reasoning of 5th graders". It exists in all ages. It is a proven and normal response to insecurity or lack of compassion and happens daily.

That said, I can completely understand the "hate" towards his ex-wives are not all jealousy or is not felt that way by everyone. I can also understand how there is responsibilities from both sides and your explanation is valid to me as well as seen that way by many others

jayseajay said:

I'm stupid. That's all you've got??? Tremendous.

BlackBall said:

You really need to work on your reading comprehension as well as understanding BASIC Feminist theory & Capitalist critique Good luck!

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I enjoy your posts, so much of what you say is right on. Apologies for taking away from the seriousness of this conversation but your use of tremendous did deliver a smile, I thank you

wavesofbliss said:

If he was that bad, they should have quit. He released people far more often than they quit. The "using" was mutual, but that doesn't mean there were not fun or fulfilling times working for this man. He was demanding yes and sometimes a bit mean, but the life had to have been intoxicating, rewarding, intimate, funny and fun as well. They weren't factory workers in some unrewarding job ((not that I am saying that you are a factory worker in an unrewarding job, I am just saying people have choices.).

wavesofbliss said:

Prince used the insecurity of others to keep them on the back foot- to keep the upper hand. Its a common mindfucking tool often used by insecure control freak types. I've had a couple of supervisors like that. They r a nightmare.

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wavesofbliss said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

BanishedBrian said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Banished: No, you are taking what I said the wrong way. All I was referring to in that lyric is that Prince didn't want to fight with Mayte. He just wanted a "clean" break.

I didn't say anything about who cheated on who. I read the stories about how Prince cheated on Mayte during their relationship/marriage. Yes, I know about his affair with Manuela.

I know all about Prince and Nona -- he was supposed to get engaged with her, but got engaged with Mayte instead. I'm not saying what he did was right. Love can make you do some really stupid things sometimes.

OK, but how does the fact that didn't want to fight with Mayte mean that she is not a victim? If Prince cheated on her and she was angry, why does the fact that Prince didn't want to fight mean she loses her victimhood?

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Banished: I just don't agree with Mayte playing the "victim", that's all. When people get divorced, there is a legitimate reason. None of us really know all the complexities of their relationship. Sometimes, when a couple loses a child, their relationship falls apart. It happens.

PrplGem said:

SpookyNopetopus said:

I totally went Girl whatever when I read that. What an idiotic thing to put out there. You DO realize that Prince and Tommy Lee are the exact same dude, right? Oh, probably a minor difference or two, but REALLY, wtf, go back the 1950's with that bull, now.

They're all rockstars. I don't understand the logic of others, sometimes.

tommy lee and prince r the "same"??? u mean they both have penis' ??

Let's show some support for 20 year Victim (of having millions of dollars & not having to work a regular job a day in her life like BILLIONS of other women on the planet!) Mayte! Who recently stated that in her mind "she was still married to Prince" Here she is several years ago (using a little known concept amongst some on this thread called fact and LOGIC) that she was even then still "married" to Prince

BlackBall said:

Let's show some support for 20 year Victim (of having millions of dollars & not having to work a regular job a day in her life like BILLIONS of other women on the planet!) Mayte! Who recently stated that in her mind "she was still married to Prince" Here she is several years ago (using a little known concept amongst some on this thread called fact and LOGIC) that she was even then still "married" to Prince

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And, Prince be like.....

Let's be fair to Mayte now. If half of what's been written about their relationship is true, Prince really put her through the ringer. She wasn't allowed to call him or some ish like that? Really? She was basically banished to some other country while Prince tried to get their marriage annulled? Really? Etc, etc., etc. She was lashing out with the relash w/Tommy Lee, imo, and showcasing the freedom she didn't have while married to Prince. She was lashing out at Prince. Didn't he quickly jump into a relationship with Mani after his divorce to Mayte or was there overlap. Mayte was young and naive when she got involved in the world of Prince and she went through hell, but stuck by him through it. She wasn't the one who wanted to end the marriage. He was. There were rumors of him cheating on her during their marriage also. Of all the women Prince Prince was involved with, Mayte is the one I have the most sympathy for, followed by Denise and Jill. I feel those 3 women loved him unconditionally and wanted him for him, not for what he has to offer them.

Well, Prince proably was like that but who cares really? He could be judgemental too. And he wasn't Mayte's daddy he was her ex-husband. I can totally understand Mayte's attraction to Tommy Lee (although I do not find him sexually attractive AT ALL). I think it was more about wanting to experience something new, less confining, it could be a libertating experience being with such a "wild" boyfriend. At that time in her life she wanted to feel free after the heaviness of her marriage, and for all we know Tommy may have treated her a lot kinder than Prince ever did, too bad they couldn't resolve the children issue. My comments are not directed to anyone on this board I'm just trying to point out that Mayte deserved to be her own person and find herself, I think people are too harsh on her at times.

BlackBall said:

Let's show some support for 20 year Victim (of having millions of dollars & not having to work a regular job a day in her life like BILLIONS of other women on the planet!) Mayte! Who recently stated that in her mind "she was still married to Prince" Here she is several years ago (using a little known concept amongst some on this thread called fact and LOGIC) that she was even then still "married" to Prince

LOGIC!!!!! VICTIM!!!! SLUT!!!!! Man, seriously, could you get any more text book? So, Mayte fucked another man after she broke up with Prince, ergo, she is a worthless whore who never loved him. Everyone say aye! AYE.

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jayseajay said:

BlackBall said:

Let's show some support for 20 year Victim (of having millions of dollars & not having to work a regular job a day in her life like BILLIONS of other women on the planet!) Mayte! Who recently stated that in her mind "she was still married to Prince" Here she is several years ago (using a little known concept amongst some on this thread called fact and LOGIC) that she was even then still "married" to Prince

Also, don't try and pull that "I am man therefore I have the cock of logic" bullshit on us (stupid women and their crazy vagina brains!). Believe me, I have had way more practice at this than you. There is no stunt you can pull I haven't seen a million times before and can see right through. In this entire equation, I have interest in only one cock, and it belongs to a man that never tried to pretend it gave him the power of reason over women. Leave Mayte the fuck alone. Seriously.

BlackBall said:

nursev said:

she fucked Tommy Lee and that was a wrap for her and Prince...he didn't back track and you can't blame him nasty

I know. After the man she had been emotionally invested in for eight years and married and lost two children to emotionally abadoned her she tried to see if another man would make it feel better. Unconscionable.

jayseajay said:

Hey Nursev -some truth there!. There's NO reasoning with some creature thay would write this kind of s*^! " If I had a time machine I'd go and wring his mother's neck first of all..." WHO writes that about a deceased person u "care" about on a public form & ESPECIALLY THEIR MOM?! Apparently someone who considers themselves crusader for women-by of course blaming their mom for everything! lol -A true FAN of P. He didn't write The Greatest Romance Ever Sold for nothing Personally, am not sure M. could do/done much better than TL give her attributes.

nursev said:

jayseajay said:

I know. After the man she had been emotionally invested in for eight years and married and lost two children to emotionally abadoned her she tried to see if another man would make it feel better. Unconscionable.

yeah whatever if you're moving on you don't fuck somebody like Tommy Lee with his history. Prince really loved Mayte and who knows they may have gotten back together, but that basically sealed the deal. Tommy Lee was low and she could've done better. But say what you want.

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Morningstarlet said:

BlackBall said:

laurarichardson said:

nursev said:

jayseajay said:

I know. After the man she had been emotionally invested in for eight years and married and lost two children to emotionally abadoned her she tried to see if another man would make it feel better. Unconscionable.

yeah whatever if you're moving on you don't fuck somebody like Tommy Lee with his history. Prince really loved Mayte and who knows they may have gotten back together, but that basically sealed the deal. Tommy Lee was low and she could've done better. But say what you want.

Yes, no doubt Prince loved Mayte, and then he abandoned her, after she lost lost two children. And the issue is that the person she fucked when trying to move forward was 'nasty,' when if she had fucked someone up to Prince's standards of elegance it might have been fine? Should we consider what might have been done to Mayte's self respect by the time she decided to hook up with Tommy Lee? No, let's not.

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With the disgusting things you say it is very difficult to believe you are a biological female. Truely pathetic. You are clearly delusional if you think for one moment Prince didn't capitalize off sex or wasn't misogynistic. Considering the comments I made about Race went right over your head it is sadly obvious you have the depth of a pizza pan. Again, good luck to you.

jayseajay said:

jayseajay said:

Also, don't try and pull that "I am man therefore I have the cock of logic" bullshit on us (stupid women and their crazy vagina brains!). Believe me, I have had way more practice at this than you. There is no stunt you can pull I haven't seen a million times before and can see right through. In this entire equation, I have interest in only one cock, and it belongs to a man that never tried to pretend it gave him the power of reason over women. Leave Mayte the fuck alone. Seriously.

jayseajay said: