http://www.myspace.com/de...o-19252072

did When Doves Cry came from this?

That was nice,he's really talented!

the can of worms is now open................

therat said:

http://www.myspace.com/de...o-19252072

did When Doves Cry came from this?

this sounds nothing like prince or when doves cry more like lenny kravitz

therat said:

http://www.myspace.com/de...o-19252072

did When Doves Cry came from this?

Yeah, I think that song musically influenced "When Doves Cry" to some degree. If u listen to the drum patterns, u can hear it a bit. I mean, "When Doves Cry" was recorded soon after Prince saw Dez and The Modernaires perform that song along with some other cuts on night in LA (I think). It's like how Rick James "Give It To Me, Baby" musically influenced Michael Jackson's "Thriller" to some degree. Even Quincy Jones admitted that.

[Edited 6/2/11 15:13pm]

I have been on this jam for a while.

Dez has some jams off that album I like such as "She Loves To Video", "I Like The Beat", and of course "Modernaire" to name a few. I need to get it again and sure wish Dez release the extended version of "Modernaire". It does exist!

That too disc set has some great tracks on it, like this and the Sound Of Breaking Hearts - a real shame we never got an album in 84/5. Tsk.

sms130 said:

therat said:

http://www.myspace.com/de...o-19252072

did When Doves Cry came from this?

Yeah, I think that song musically influenced "When Doves Cry" to some degree. If u listen to the drum patterns, u can hear it a bit. I mean, "When Doves Cry" was recorded soon after Prince saw Dez and The Modernaires perform that song along with some other cuts on night in LA (I think). It's like how Rick James "Give It To Me, Baby" musically influenced Michael Jackson's "Thriller" to some degree. Even Quincy Jones admitted that.

[Edited 6/2/11 15:13pm]

Quincy DID INDEED admit it: to Rick DIRECTLY!!!!!

AWESOME Dez!!!!!!! It's like I've been saying ALL ALONG: Dez' music woulda fit PERFECTLY in all those 80's "school" movies (Ridgemont High, Valley Girl, Sixteen Candles etc...). Hell-maybe I shoulda been a WB exec...........

Interesting to hear how much more of a full-on New Wave sound Dez had in comparison to Prince. I suppose I hear some very vague similarity to "When Doves Cry" by way of the drum machine track, but not much beyond it.

[Edited 6/3/11 14:48pm]

Never heard that song before,but the "Modernaire" song is dope! It's a shame that it was never released.

therat said:

http://www.myspace.com/de...o-19252072

did When Doves Cry came from this?

No, this came from A-U-T-O-matic.....

nice song but i dont hear when doves cry in this at all

This song is totally rad!!!!

Help me here folks, Dez had a song *and a band* called Modernairre? Why did I think it was Brownmark that was involved in Modernairre? Talked about wrong.

There is a full size booklet that must be about 50 pages of photos and short essays written by Dez for each track of the 2 CD Retrospective set that this song was released on. It cames with a signed letter of authenticity from Dez. He writes about how this song was recorded before Prince did When Doves Cry and the similarities in the drum loop in both songs. Unlike some of the Prince associates from that era (who will go nameless here), he made a point to claim any writing credits for a Prince hit...