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PrintablePurpleCharm said: wonder505 said: I thought Mani is part Egyptian, which lies in the African continent if we want to get technical. How does that make her part White/Italian? [Edited 8/2/06 12:34pm] Many don't consider Egyptians to be African, eventhough Egpyt is located on the continent of Africa. Mani's dad is white Italian and her mom is from Egypt. [Edited 8/2/06 13:00pm] yea alot of people dont consider it Africa but if u see her mom shes obviously African/Black...well,2 me anyway. | |
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PurpleCharm said: wonder505 said: I thought Mani is part Egyptian, which lies in the African continent if we want to get technical. How does that make her part White/Italian? [Edited 8/2/06 12:34pm] Many don't consider Egyptians to be African, eventhough Egpyt is located on the continent of Africa. Mani's dad is white Italian and her mom is from Egypt. [Edited 8/2/06 13:00pm] ...and that in itself is actually a pretty common interacial mixture for southern Europe. From living in Italy, I learned that Egyptians and Tunesians have made up a core part of their immigrant population for a very long time. Additionally, Egyptians will tell you very clearly that they are African. I've been put in place by many an Egyptian who will gently remind me that my skin color as a black woman does not make me African. An American descendant of Africans yes, but not African. And their cousins of darker hue to the south, east , and west of the continent usually agree with them. Oddly they still are quite embracing on one hand, and usually joke that even though "black Americans left us a long time ago, you're still mine..." ...and the idea that all people from Northern Africa (Algeria, Tunesia, Egypt, Morrocco etc) are fair skinned is a fallacy. The range of skin tones and hair textures run from the Paula Abduls of the world to the Denzel Washingtons. ...and on a completely non-serious, superficial note...the MEN, no matter what the complexion, are all SO FINE....it's ridculous!!!!Oh Lord!!!I would be there for work and develop crushes on boys like I was a high school nerd!!!!   | |
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wonder505 said: Ottensen said: He did go through a short period in his intial international success where he was pushing the idea that he was only "part" black. I remember it being very irritating. But it really was such a long tme ago that the details are so scroggly woggly and foggy. But I have many a vintage magazine in my parents attic where he took that "I'm mixed" ball an ran as far as he could with it. ..at least until he passed a mirror one day and saw it was time for a touch-up . But that's okay, when we're young that's the time to try on different identities and personas. I was just listening to the song "Family Name" the other night and thinking, "wow...it feels really good to see how far he's come in being able to disuss these issues".....I also like the tune "The Sacrifice of Victor" as a discussion point for this topic. For me it's abundantly clear that he's done a 180° of sorts where kind of the "say it loud I'm black and I'm proud" concept has come into play. Lord knows what a tragedy it would have been to see him go the way of some of our other celebs who insist on the nose jobs, the skin lightening and so on. I say, I'm just glad that even in the midst of being a globally recognized celebrity, he managed to come on back home 
...Okay. now I feel bad because this has nothing to do with Madame Royal:boxed: I would have to see those interviews in print myself to believe that he denied being black. Otherwise, its complete hearsay and assumptions by other people who saw the actors that played his parents in Purple Rain movie. Okay. Point Taken. | |
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For fuck's sake, are you people totally unable to see the irony here? You all claim to be outraged that anyone be discriminated against on the grounds of race yet Prince, being black, must date a certain percentage of black women to be acceptable ( what is that percentage btw? 20%, 50%...93.87%? How many black women would Prince have had to have dated to make you happy? ). Spotted the irony yet? A white guy can date any mix of races he likes and no one complains yet Prince, solely because he's black, isn't allowed the same freedom - he's gotta fill the quota.
I do realize that the whole light-skinned Vs. dark-skinned thing is an issue in the black community but, come on. For whatever reason Prince, like we all do, developed a set of preferences during his formative years. Its true that those preferences would have been influenced by the pro-light-skinned society he grew up in but...and heres the news flash....its not his fault and its too fucking late to change what the guy is attracted to now! Anyway, I notice he's never dated a bald diabetic Norwegian with a speech impediment....that dirty little bigotted fucker....bald diabetic Norwegians with speech impediments unite!! Prince hates you and your kind....stop buying his albums now! God, I love humans...they're so, like....fucked. "Don't hate me cos I'm beautiful" | |
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PleasurePrinciple said: wonder505 said: I thought Mani is part Egyptian, which lies in the African continent if we want to get technical. How does that make her part White/Italian? [Edited 8/2/06 12:34pm] Uh her father  LOL! I read your sentence wrong, you were saying to the Italian/white culture she is darkskin not the African American culture. DUH!! 
Regardless, Prince has his preferences and his personal life is really none of my business. | |
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Ottensen said: PurpleCharm said: Many don't consider Egyptians to be African, eventhough Egpyt is located on the continent of Africa. Mani's dad is white Italian and her mom is from Egypt. [Edited 8/2/06 13:00pm] ...and that in itself is actually a pretty common interacial mixture for southern Europe. From living in Italy, I learned that Egyptians and Tunesians have made up a core part of their immigrant population for a very long time. Additionally, Egyptians will tell you very clearly that they are African. I've been put in place by many an Egyptian who will gently remind me that my skin color as a black woman does not make me African. An American descendant of Africans yes, but not African. And their cousins of darker hue to the south, east , and west of the continent usually agree with them. Oddly they still are quite embracing on one hand, and usually joke that even though "black Americans left us a long time ago, you're still mine..." ...and the idea that all people from Northern Africa (Algeria, Tunesia, Egypt, Morrocco etc) are fair skinned is a fallacy. The range of skin tones and hair textures run from the Paula Abduls of the world to the Denzel Washingtons. ...and on a completely non-serious, superficial note...the MEN, no matter what the complexion, are all SO FINE....it's ridculous!!!!Oh Lord!!!I would be there for work and develop crushes on boys like I was a high school nerd!!!! Yeah, I once heard someone say that there are Arabs in the Middle East that look like brothers in the hood, but you rarely see those on tv. | |
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PurpleCharm said: Ottensen said: ...and that in itself is actually a pretty common interacial mixture for southern Europe. From living in Italy, I learned that Egyptians and Tunesians have made up a core part of their immigrant population for a very long time. Additionally, Egyptians will tell you very clearly that they are African. I've been put in place by many an Egyptian who will gently remind me that my skin color as a black woman does not make me African. An American descendant of Africans yes, but not African. And their cousins of darker hue to the south, east , and west of the continent usually agree with them. Oddly they still are quite embracing on one hand, and usually joke that even though "black Americans left us a long time ago, you're still mine..." ...and the idea that all people from Northern Africa (Algeria, Tunesia, Egypt, Morrocco etc) are fair skinned is a fallacy. The range of skin tones and hair textures run from the Paula Abduls of the world to the Denzel Washingtons. ...and on a completely non-serious, superficial note...the MEN, no matter what the complexion, are all SO FINE....it's ridculous!!!!Oh Lord!!!I would be there for work and develop crushes on boys like I was a high school nerd!!!! Yeah, I once heard someone say that there are Arabs in the Middle East that look like brothers in the hood, but you rarely see those on tv. lol,go 2 Philly NY or Jersey and u'll see this,trust  | |
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PleasurePrinciple said: PurpleCharm said: Yeah, I once heard someone say that there are Arabs in the Middle East that look like brothers in the hood, but you rarely see those on tv. lol,go 2 Philly NY or Jersey and u'll see this,trust | |
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Krystal666 said: powerbaby said: THANKYOU BABY GIRL, I TAKE GOOD CARE OF MYSELF!
Your welcome. And to think you have had a baby too...you look amazing and all the hard work you put into your body is very evident. Also I think your breasts look really great too. I've struggled with the idea of getting breast implants cuz of the work I do, I do feel alot of pressure when I am there to have them but in all honesty I don't want them. I guess I have a love/hate relationship with them. I really don't judge women for getting plastic surgey...alot of my friends have breast implants but for me...I don't know...I guess the decision runs alot deeper for me than most people. I kinda want to be appreciated for who I am and I guess I'm kinda afraid fake breasts might attract fake people...I just want to be me...or maybe I just over intellectualize things too much! LOL! ...but I just wanted to tell that I think if the decision was a good one for you I think that is great, and hope it will help you with your career and I think you are really beautiful...inside and out.  I STARTED HEAVY WEIGHT TRAINING AFTER SHE WAS BORN AND I NOTICED THAT IF I CONTUNIED ON THAT WAY THAT I WOULD HAVE NOTHING LEFT....I HAVE ALWAYS HAD LARGE BREAST AND I WANTED THEM BACK...AND I AM THANKFUL THAT GOD MADE A WAY FOR ME TO DO THAT AND THAT DOCTORS ARE BLESSED WITH THIS CRAFT REMEMBER I AM AN ARTIST AND SO ARE SOME DOCTORS NOT ALL JUST SOME...AND I AM THANKFUL THAT MY DOCTOR IS  | |
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sacredwarrior said: Hi Robin, nice to 'cyber-meet' you.
Firstly, here's a picture of me so you can see who ur talking to... http://www.pbphonehome.co...en42cu.png Just been reading through all you have said so far. Congratulations on all the work you are doing that you feel so good about. Nice to sense your 'power' through the screen. I agree with you 100 per cent about Women needing to 'unite' and Stand Up. I believe we have something of great value inside us, perhaps something that has been quite confronting for 'men in general' to handle.. I'm proud to be Female, especially in this day and age where there are still so many little boys out there thinking they can exploit us, or teach us something, or give us the kind of advice that we should really be gettin from our fellow sisters and Mothers
Can't say I'd ever be a man's 'protoge', not that I'm sexist on the whole, but I think world history has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Men do tend to miss the point a bit. I like to learn from people who get the point. My teacher is a wonderful motherly figure, in her 80's now, a very wise nurturing woman. Also, your comments about Prince's past treatment of women interested me. How big a part did his Fame play in the way he treated them and you? Do you think he would have been so 'cavalier' and dishonest if he'd been just an average guy on the street? I realise thats speculative, but I got a hunch that alot of things go to a persons head when they hit the 'big time' and pretty much think they can do whatever they like... I agree 100 percent with you about Prince needing an angel and a messenger. One can only hope he's listening and doesnt continue to presume that he knows whats best. Recent events would indicate there are still a few things amiss in the over-all Prince picture. Your comments about the entertainment industry, I can relate to them as well. I think we might be looking at a few 'prophecies' coming true soon..this one in particular.. " All things hidden shall be revealed ".. no matter how much money people have, no matter how many gag orders they have, no matter how much they think they are entitled to engage in Spiritual Wickedness in High Places... everything will soon be revealed. 
Robin its wonderful ur a forgiving person, just wanted to say sorry for the way Prince treated you. Boys will be boys. And perhaps a good experience for you in the long term, as you said, you learned alot, and it helped define for you what you will and will not tolerate from a man, be he half woman or not
Thanks for your time Robin. God Bless and Best Wishes, X | |
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sacredwarrior said: Hi Robin, nice to 'cyber-meet' you.
I THINK THAT PRINCE IS A VERY PRETTY AND TALENTED BOY WHO HAS ALWAYS HAD HIS WAY WITH THE LADIES...I ALSO THINK THAT HE MUST HAVE BEEN HURT Firstly, here's a picture of me so you can see who ur talking to... http://www.pbphonehome.co...en42cu.png Just been reading through all you have said so far. Congratulations on all the work you are doing that you feel so good about. Nice to sense your 'power' through the screen. I agree with you 100 per cent about Women needing to 'unite' and Stand Up. I believe we have something of great value inside us, perhaps something that has been quite confronting for 'men in general' to handle.. I'm proud to be Female, especially in this day and age where there are still so many little boys out there thinking they can exploit us, or teach us something, or give us the kind of advice that we should really be gettin from our fellow sisters and Mothers
Can't say I'd ever be a man's 'protoge', not that I'm sexist on the whole, but I think world history has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Men do tend to miss the point a bit. I like to learn from people who get the point. My teacher is a wonderful motherly figure, in her 80's now, a very wise nurturing woman. Also, your comments about Prince's past treatment of women interested me. How big a part did his Fame play in the way he treated them and you? Do you think he would have been so 'cavalier' and dishonest if he'd been just an average guy on the street? I realise thats speculative, but I got a hunch that alot of things go to a persons head when they hit the 'big time' and pretty much think they can do whatever they like... I agree 100 percent with you about Prince needing an angel and a messenger. One can only hope he's listening and doesnt continue to presume that he knows whats best. Recent events would indicate there are still a few things amiss in the over-all Prince picture. Your comments about the entertainment industry, I can relate to them as well. I think we might be looking at a few 'prophecies' coming true soon..this one in particular.. " All things hidden shall be revealed ".. no matter how much money people have, no matter how many gag orders they have, no matter how much they think they are entitled to engage in Spiritual Wickedness in High Places... everything will soon be revealed.
Robin its wonderful ur a forgiving person, just wanted to say sorry for the way Prince treated you. Boys will be boys. And perhaps a good experience for you in the long term, as you said, you learned alot, and it helped define for you what you will and will not tolerate from a man, be he half woman or not
Thanks for your time Robin. God Bless and Best Wishes, X  BY SOMEONE ALONG THE WAY AND HE LOST HIS FAITH IN THE WORLD OF TRUE LOVE BUT YET HE IS SEARCHING AS WE ALL ARE! I WAS WITH HIM FOR 6 MONTHS BEFORE WE EVER MADE LOVE...WE GREW TO BE GREAT FRIENDS....AND I WANTED TO TRUST HIM BUT HE NEVER GAVE ME THE CHANCE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE WOMEN THAT HE HAD ON THE SIDE....SO MY THERY WAS DO TO HIM WHAT HE WAS DOING TO ME BUT IN THE LONG RUN I WAS ONLY HURTING MYSELF, SO I JUST CHOSE TO LEAVE IT ALL BEHIND...AND TRY TO DO THE RT THING...AND I ENDED UP MARRYING A MAN WORSE THAN HIM WHEN IT CAME TO LIES AND TRUST!....BUT THROUGH ALL THE TEARS I WAS BLESSED WITH AN ANGEL  MY BABY GIRL! SO EVERY TEAR AND ALL THE HEART BREAK WAS WORTH IT! HAD I NOT MARRIED THAT MAN! MY BABY WOULD NOT BE WHO SHE IS AND SHE IS TRULY MY BEST FRIEND AND ANGEL! | |
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DecaturStone said: powerbaby said: NO I HAVE NOT READ MANY BOOKS ABOUT HIM, I GUESS BECAUSE I DO FEEL THAT I KNEW HIM WELL! OVER THE YEARS I AM SURE THAT HE HAS CHANGED JUST LIKE I HAVE...I PRAY THAT HE IS MORE HONEST...AND LOVING...AND NOT SO CONTROLING...HE WAS NEVER SELFISH WITH ME SO THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO OUR RELATIONSHIP...HE DID SOME THINGS THAT REALLY HURT ME
SO AFTER I LEFT I TOLD A MAGAZINE SO PERSONAL THINGS...PRINCE WAS A VERY ROMANTIC LOVER...SOFT AND SEXY VERY MUCH LIKE BEING WITH A MAN AND A WOMAN AT THE SAME TIME...IT WAS CRAZY & BEAUTIFUL...VERY MUCH LIKE IN MY FANTASIES...BUT I AM A VERY POWERFUL LOVER AND SOMETIMES A GIRL LIKES TO BE MAN HANDLED!!!!! IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN AND THAT WAS NOT APART OF HIS LOVE MAKING...I HAVE A VERY INSATABLE SEX DRIVE I CAN NEVER GET ENOUGH!!!! MOST LOVERS THAT I HAVE HAD COULD NOT KEEP UP I AM STILL WAITING FOR TRUE LOVE AND I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR LIFE TIMES.
I liked your art on myspace. U know a brova had to peek at your page. Other than the Playboy thing, have you done any acting roles since GB? I am hoping I get added as a friend on myspace btw LOL ...BUT I AM LOOKING FORWORD TO DOING MORE IN THE WORLD OF FILMS! | |
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SDNafka said: For fuck's sake, are you people totally unable to see the irony here? You all claim to be outraged that anyone be discriminated against on the grounds of race yet Prince, being black, must date a certain percentage of black women to be acceptable ( what is that percentage btw? 20%, 50%...93.87%? How many black women would Prince have had to have dated to make you happy? ). Spotted the irony yet? A white guy can date any mix of races he likes and no one complains yet Prince, solely because he's black, isn't allowed the same freedom - he's gotta fill the quota.
THIS ALL STARTED BECAUSE I WAS ASKED IF HE TREATED BLACK WOMEN DIFFERENT AND I SAID THAT HE HAS A CHOICE TO BE WITH ANY TYPE OF WOMEN THAT HE WANTED, WE ALL HAVE THAT CHOICE...
I do realize that the whole light-skinned Vs. dark-skinned thing is an issue in the black community but, come on. For whatever reason Prince, like we all do, developed a set of preferences during his formative years. Its true that those preferences would have been influenced by the pro-light-skinned society he grew up in but...and heres the news flash....its not his fault and its too fucking late to change what the guy is attracted to now! Anyway, I notice he's never dated a bald diabetic Norwegian with a speech impediment....that dirty little bigotted fucker....bald diabetic Norwegians with speech impediments unite!! Prince hates you and your kind....stop buying his albums now! God, I love humans...they're so, like....fucked. I JUST THINK THE HE IS A PRODUCT OF WHERE HE WAS RAISED...THAT'S ALL : I JUST NOTICED THAT WHEN I ENTERED INTO HIS WORLD PEOPLE MADE IT KNOWN TO ME THAT I WAS ONE OF THE FEW BLACK WOMEN THAT HE HAD A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT EVERY ONE KNEW ABOUT, THAT'S ALL OH YES AND THE WAITRESS KIM IN PURPLE RAIN WAS HIS FIRST LOVE....THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM MADE THAT VERY CLEAR TO ME SO I FELT HONORED THAT HE CHOSE ME TO BE HIS GIRL...AT THAT TIME! BACAUSE I WAS AND I AM A BEAUTIFUL BLACK WOMAN! AND PROUD OF IT...HIS FATHER IS AN ANGEL NOW...HE IS BLACK AND COOL AS ALL GETOUT! AND HIS MOTHER IS BLACK AND A BEAUTIFUL PERSON I MET THEM BOTH! SO PLEASE LETS GET OFF THE RACE THING...IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL! PRINCE KNOWS THAT HE IS A BLACK MAN...AND HE HAS NEVER PRETENDED TO BE ONY THING OTHER THAN THAT TO ME....TRUST ME HE ACTS LIKE...A BROTHER IN EVERY SINCE OF THE WORD...HE HAS SWAGGER!...HE HAS STYLE AND HE KNOWS HOW TO MAKE A GIRL LAUGH CRY AND SMILE ALL BLACK INSIDE AND OUT!... [Edited 8/2/06 17:12pm] | |
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powerbaby said: sacredwarrior said: Hi Robin, nice to 'cyber-meet' you.
I THINK THAT PRINCE IS A VERY PRETTY AND TALENTED BOY WHO HAS ALWAYS HAD HIS WAY WITH THE LADIES...I ALSO THINK THAT HE MUST HAVE BEEN HURT Firstly, here's a picture of me so you can see who ur talking to... http://www.pbphonehome.co...en42cu.png Just been reading through all you have said so far. Congratulations on all the work you are doing that you feel so good about. Nice to sense your 'power' through the screen. I agree with you 100 per cent about Women needing to 'unite' and Stand Up. I believe we have something of great value inside us, perhaps something that has been quite confronting for 'men in general' to handle.. I'm proud to be Female, especially in this day and age where there are still so many little boys out there thinking they can exploit us, or teach us something, or give us the kind of advice that we should really be gettin from our fellow sisters and Mothers
Can't say I'd ever be a man's 'protoge', not that I'm sexist on the whole, but I think world history has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Men do tend to miss the point a bit. I like to learn from people who get the point. My teacher is a wonderful motherly figure, in her 80's now, a very wise nurturing woman. Also, your comments about Prince's past treatment of women interested me. How big a part did his Fame play in the way he treated them and you? Do you think he would have been so 'cavalier' and dishonest if he'd been just an average guy on the street? I realise thats speculative, but I got a hunch that alot of things go to a persons head when they hit the 'big time' and pretty much think they can do whatever they like... I agree 100 percent with you about Prince needing an angel and a messenger. One can only hope he's listening and doesnt continue to presume that he knows whats best. Recent events would indicate there are still a few things amiss in the over-all Prince picture. Your comments about the entertainment industry, I can relate to them as well. I think we might be looking at a few 'prophecies' coming true soon..this one in particular.. " All things hidden shall be revealed ".. no matter how much money people have, no matter how many gag orders they have, no matter how much they think they are entitled to engage in Spiritual Wickedness in High Places... everything will soon be revealed.
Robin its wonderful ur a forgiving person, just wanted to say sorry for the way Prince treated you. Boys will be boys. And perhaps a good experience for you in the long term, as you said, you learned alot, and it helped define for you what you will and will not tolerate from a man, be he half woman or not
Thanks for your time Robin. God Bless and Best Wishes, X BY SOMEONE ALONG THE WAY AND HE LOST HIS FAITH IN THE WORLD OF TRUE LOVE BUT YET HE IS SEARCHING AS WE ALL ARE! I WAS WITH HIM FOR 6 MONTHS BEFORE WE EVER MADE LOVE...WE GREW TO BE GREAT FRIENDS....AND I WANTED TO TRUST HIM BUT HE NEVER GAVE ME THE CHANCE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE WOMEN THAT HE HAD ON THE SIDE....SO MY THERY WAS DO TO HIM WHAT HE WAS DOING TO ME BUT IN THE LONG RUN I WAS ONLY HURTING MYSELF, SO I JUST CHOSE TO LEAVE IT ALL BEHIND...AND TRY TO DO THE RT THING...AND I ENDED UP MARRYING A MAN WORSE THAN HIM WHEN IT CAME TO LIES AND TRUST!....BUT THROUGH ALL THE TEARS I WAS BLESSED WITH AN ANGEL MY BABY GIRL! SO EVERY TEAR AND ALL THE HEART BREAK WAS WORTH IT! HAD I NOT MARRIED THAT MAN! MY BABY WOULD NOT BE WHO SHE IS AND SHE IS TRULY MY BEST FRIEND AND ANGEL!Hi again Robin, ~ thanks for your response. I can relate to your experiences in having a child to someone who is 'less than the perfect mate'. I have a son to one such relationship and I Bless the day he was born. He is the Sunshine of My Life. Thankfully, his father and I get along a little better these days. Isnt it wonderful that no one has the exclusive rights to 'being hurt'. We all have been. I am grateful that in my adult life, I have done my best to heal myself. Taking responsibility for our own personal growth feels really good. Thanks again for your time, 
God Bless. x " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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sacredwarrior said: powerbaby said: I THINK THAT PRINCE IS A VERY PRETTY AND TALENTED BOY WHO HAS ALWAYS HAD HIS WAY WITH THE LADIES...I ALSO THINK THAT HE MUST HAVE BEEN HURT
BY SOMEONE ALONG THE WAY AND HE LOST HIS FAITH IN THE WORLD OF TRUE LOVE BUT YET HE IS SEARCHING AS WE ALL ARE! I WAS WITH HIM FOR 6 MONTHS BEFORE WE EVER MADE LOVE...WE GREW TO BE GREAT FRIENDS....AND I WANTED TO TRUST HIM BUT HE NEVER GAVE ME THE CHANCE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE WOMEN THAT HE HAD ON THE SIDE....SO MY THERY WAS DO TO HIM WHAT HE WAS DOING TO ME BUT IN THE LONG RUN I WAS ONLY HURTING MYSELF, SO I JUST CHOSE TO LEAVE IT ALL BEHIND...AND TRY TO DO THE RT THING...AND I ENDED UP MARRYING A MAN WORSE THAN HIM WHEN IT CAME TO LIES AND TRUST!....BUT THROUGH ALL THE TEARS I WAS BLESSED WITH AN ANGEL MY BABY GIRL! SO EVERY TEAR AND ALL THE HEART BREAK WAS WORTH IT! HAD I NOT MARRIED THAT MAN! MY BABY WOULD NOT BE WHO SHE IS AND SHE IS TRULY MY BEST FRIEND AND ANGEL!Hi again Robin, ~ thanks for your response. I can relate to your experiences in having a child to someone who is 'less than the perfect mate'. I have a son to one such relationship and I Bless the day he was born. He is the Sunshine of My Life. Thankfully, his father and I get along a little better these days. Isnt it wonderful that no one has the exclusive rights to 'being hurt'. We all have been. I am grateful that in my adult life, I have done my best to heal myself. Taking responsibility for our own personal growth feels really good. Thanks again for your time,
God Bless. x AND I AM HAPPY THE YOU ARE ONE OF THE ONE'S WHO BELIEVE IN ME GOD BLESS YOU! LOVE POWER! OH AND BY THE WAY THANKYOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL PICTURE BABY GIRL!
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SDNafka said: For fuck's sake, are you people totally unable to see the irony here? You all claim to be outraged that anyone be discriminated against on the grounds of race yet Prince, being black, must date a certain percentage of black women to be acceptable ( what is that percentage btw? 20%, 50%...93.87%? How many black women would Prince have had to have dated to make you happy? ). Spotted the irony yet? A white guy can date any mix of races he likes and no one complains yet Prince, solely because he's black, isn't allowed the same freedom - he's gotta fill the quota.
I do realize that the whole light-skinned Vs. dark-skinned thing is an issue in the black community but, come on. For whatever reason Prince, like we all do, developed a set of preferences during his formative years. Its true that those preferences would have been influenced by the pro-light-skinned society he grew up in but...and heres the news flash....its not his fault and its too fucking late to change what the guy is attracted to now! Anyway, I notice he's never dated a bald diabetic Norwegian with a speech impediment....that dirty little bigotted fucker....bald diabetic Norwegians with speech impediments unite!! Prince hates you and your kind....stop buying his albums now! God, I love humans...they're so, like....fucked. this makes more sense than the rest of the posts. people sometimes see more than whats neccessariy there [Edited 8/2/06 19:39pm] | |
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Hey powerbaby...I just remembered something. At the start of Liza's thread about the uptown dames there was a poster that came here trying to track you down. He said he was one of your old boyfriends in Chicago when you were around fifteen or sixteen. I have no idea if he was legit or anything but I just thought I'd let you know. Maybe someone can dig up his old post? | |
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SDNafka said: For fuck's sake, are you people totally unable to see the irony here? You all claim to be outraged that anyone be discriminated against on the grounds of race yet Prince, being black, must date a certain percentage of black women to be acceptable ( what is that percentage btw? 20%, 50%...93.87%? How many black women would Prince have had to have dated to make you happy? ). Spotted the irony yet? A white guy can date any mix of races he likes and no one complains yet Prince, solely because he's black, isn't allowed the same freedom - he's gotta fill the quota.
I do realize that the whole light-skinned Vs. dark-skinned thing is an issue in the black community but, come on. For whatever reason Prince, like we all do, developed a set of preferences during his formative years. Its true that those preferences would have been influenced by the pro-light-skinned society he grew up in but...and heres the news flash....its not his fault and its too fucking late to change what the guy is attracted to now! Anyway, I notice he's never dated a bald diabetic Norwegian with a speech impediment....that dirty little bigotted fucker....bald diabetic Norwegians with speech impediments unite!! Prince hates you and your kind....stop buying his albums now! God, I love humans...they're so, like....fucked.  I would have said this too, but I don't like to cuss that much! | |
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silverandgold said:[quote] alwayslate said: I'm surprised that people are acting like they don't know what you mean. It has never been unknown in the Black community that Prince ain't into Black women. I was actually surprise he dated you. I thought even you were too Black for him. That makes me sad because I have loved Prince and his music for almost my entire life. And until recently he ain't even wanna admit that he was Black. Oh well. He's old now anyway. aight, I'm just playing.But you know what I mean.No, it was other people that didn't want to admit he was Black for the comfort of their own wants and needs of him. Plus he knew most Black women wouldn't let him get away with crap that most non-black women will put up with, He wasn't stupid. He knew exactly who it was easier to play with at the time.. I have never heard of him denying being Black. In many of his songs he sure proved he was if you really listened to his songs.. You have to remember, he was younger back then and living the "rock style" life. What other females do you think was more into him then? So it's no surprise that you were used to seeing him with them. Especially back in the 80s a lot of artists were forced to perform in videos and on stage with non-black females, since then, as you have noticed that has changed tremendously. But I have never heard anyone quote him saying he wasn't Black, especially when both his parents were Black. And please, don't start with all that nonsense about "ooh, his mother was half this or daddy was half that,"all nothing but rumors since Purple Rain gave them that impression because of the role the actress who played his mother in Purple Rain. It has been noted that it was not Prince's idea for a white actress to play his mother and give people that false assumption. I believe it was the director or producer's idea. It was a smart move to attract a white audience to see the film.[/quote ----- co-sign on this comment "Plus he knew most Black women wouldn't let him get away with crap that most non-black women will put up with, He wasn't stupid" A black woman would really go upside his head and I am sure he knows it. At the same time I am sure P is proud to be black. Let's cut him some slack look where he grew up at. | |
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PleasurePrinciple said: wonder505 said: I thought Mani is part Egyptian, which lies in the African continent if we want to get technical. How does that make her part White/Italian? [Edited 8/2/06 12:34pm] Uh her father Then how about U stick 2 part Italian, part Egyptian? Italian is NOT white in my book. At least where my family came from. Peace. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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On a final note (Gb), the diversity of the people Prince has chosen 2 spend time with should not be cause 4 criticism. This criticism goes way back, and Prince shouldn't be compared 2 those who have distinct issues about dating someone who is of a similar "race". He does not have that complex, so stop trying 2 pin that on him. The beauty of each and every one of the women he was with, was seen by him, regardless of color. [Edited 8/3/06 6:56am] "He's a musician's musician..." |
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silverandgold said: alwayslate said: I'm surprised that people are acting like they don't know what you mean. It has never been unknown in the Black community that Prince ain't into Black women. I was actually surprise he dated you. I thought even you were too Black for him. That makes me sad because I have loved Prince and his music for almost my entire life. And until recently he ain't even wanna admit that he was Black. Oh well. He's old now anyway. aight, I'm just playing.But you know what I mean.No, it was other people that didn't want to admit he was Black for the comfort of their own wants and needs of him. Plus he knew most Black women wouldn't let him get away with crap that most non-black women will put up with, He wasn't stupid. He knew exactly who it was easier to play with at the time.. I have never heard of him denying being Black. In many of his songs he sure proved he was if you really listened to his songs.. You have to remember, he was younger back then and living the "rock style" life. What other females do you think was more into him then? So it's no surprise that you were used to seeing him with them. Especially back in the 80s a lot of artists were forced to perform in videos and on stage with non-black females, since then, as you have noticed that has changed tremendously. But I have never heard anyone quote him saying he wasn't Black, especially when both his parents were Black. And please, don't start with all that nonsense about "ooh, his mother was half this or daddy was half that,"all nothing but rumors since Purple Rain gave them that impression because of the role the actress who played his mother in Purple Rain. It has been noted that it was not Prince's idea for a white actress to play his mother and give people that false assumption. I believe it was the director or producer's idea. It was a smart move to attract a white audience to see the film. Regardless, Robin was basically saying that Prince is colorstruck when it comes to the women he dates. No surprise there when you look at his list of women. He may have never said publically that he wasn't black (Robin probably has a better idea of what he says in private than you or I do) but he's never tried to make it undeniably clear, either. Although most black people have always known and never thought he was mixed or something else, ultimately people want to hear HIM say it and he never satisfied that because he seemed to have thought it would hurt his pockets. He's probably right. Still, this is one of the reasons Prince could never be seen as a shining example of a black man. That "Tiger Woods sh*t" just don't cut it with most black folks. When light-skinned negroes iz broke, they's black but when they gets a little change rumblin' in they pocketz, all of a sudden their "other heritages" come out.  | |
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BlaqueKnight said: silverandgold said: No, it was other people that didn't want to admit he was Black for the comfort of their own wants and needs of him. Plus he knew most Black women wouldn't let him get away with crap that most non-black women will put up with, He wasn't stupid. He knew exactly who it was easier to play with at the time.. I have never heard of him denying being Black. In many of his songs he sure proved he was if you really listened to his songs.. You have to remember, he was younger back then and living the "rock style" life. What other females do you think was more into him then? So it's no surprise that you were used to seeing him with them. Especially back in the 80s a lot of artists were forced to perform in videos and on stage with non-black females, since then, as you have noticed that has changed tremendously. But I have never heard anyone quote him saying he wasn't Black, especially when both his parents were Black. And please, don't start with all that nonsense about "ooh, his mother was half this or daddy was half that,"all nothing but rumors since Purple Rain gave them that impression because of the role the actress who played his mother in Purple Rain. It has been noted that it was not Prince's idea for a white actress to play his mother and give people that false assumption. I believe it was the director or producer's idea. It was a smart move to attract a white audience to see the film. Regardless, Robin was basically saying that Prince is colorstruck when it comes to the women he dates. No surprise there when you look at his list of women. He may have never said publically that he wasn't black (Robin probably has a better idea of what he says in private than you or I do) but he's never tried to make it undeniably clear, either. Although most black people have always known and never thought he was mixed or something else, ultimately people want to hear HIM say it and he never satisfied that because he seemed to have thought it would hurt his pockets. He's probably right. Still, this is one of the reasons Prince could never be seen as a shining example of a black man. That "Tiger Woods sh*t" just don't cut it with most black folks. When light-skinned negroes iz broke, they's black but when they gets a little change rumblin' in they pocketz, all of a sudden their "other heritages" come out. ----- Maybe you need to go back and read what Robyn said. She said he is a typical brother and the running around with blondes because he has change in his pocket is something a lot of brothers do. | |
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Giovanni777 said: PleasurePrinciple said: Uh her father Then how about U stick 2 part Italian, part Egyptian? Italian is NOT white in my book. At least where my family came from. Peace. well,ill stick 2 Italian/White b/c where I come from what u look like is what u r...and thats America baby...
moving on...this is a weird and RANDOM question POWER but what is u favorite color???
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PleasurePrinciple said: Giovanni777 said: Then how about U stick 2 part Italian, part Egyptian? Italian is NOT white in my book. At least where my family came from. Peace. well,ill stick 2 Italian/White b/c where I come from what u look like is what u r...and thats America baby...
moving on...this is a weird and RANDOM question POWER but what is u favorite color???
[Edited 8/3/06 12:52pm] [Edited 8/3/06 12:53pm] AND IT HAS NO COLOR! NOW ON TO MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THIS IS A MESSAGE TO MY KING I KNOW THAT YOU ARE OUT THERE SOME WHERE! BIBLE STUDY FOR TODAY IS PSALM 45 RISE AND CLAIM YOUR DESTANY! HEAVEN ON EARTH AND ME! IAM IS WAITING! & I AM GOD'S BABYGIRL I HAVE THE PLAN THAT THE WORLD HAS BEEN WAITING FOR! HEAVEN ON EARTH IN IS THE PALM OF MY HAND! ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS BELIEVE IN ME! DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE? I NEED YOU NOWWWWW! GOD BLESS & LOVE POWER! OOOOH YES HEY EVERY ONE! A NEW VIDEO THAT I AM STARRING IN IS ON THE NET! THIS IS A VERY ADULT RATED VIDEO! FOR AN ARTIST & PRODUCER FRIEND OF MINE NAMED MARCUS DARC.....GO TO WWW.YOUTUB.COM CLICK THE BANNER THAT READS VIDEOS AND ENTER THE TITLE MR PLUMMA THIS IS ONE VERRYYYYY SEXY & HOTTTTT VIDEO! NOW IS THE TIME FOR AUDIO EROTICA TO MAKE IT'S MARK AND DON'T FORGET TO CHECK OUT MY MUSIC AT WWW.MYSPACE.COM/POWERROYAL AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK! I WAS BORN FOR THE GROWN AND SEXY ONE'S REMEMBER SEX IS A GREAT THING WITHOUT IT YOU WOULD STILL BE JUST A THOUGHT AND A DREAM!
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Dear Robin,
Which was your favorite tour of Prince's? What do you feel is Prince's most spiritual song? Have you noticed how many other associated artists have turned their lives to God? | |
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powerbaby said: PleasurePrinciple said: well,ill stick 2 Italian/White b/c where I come from what u look like is what u r...and thats America baby...
moving on...this is a weird and RANDOM question POWER but what is u favorite color???
[Edited 8/3/06 12:52pm] [Edited 8/3/06 12:53pm] AND IT HAS NO COLOR! NOW ON TO MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THIS IS A MESSAGE TO MY KING I KNOW THAT YOU ARE OUT THERE SOME WHERE! BIBLE STUDY FOR TODAY IS PSALM 45 RISE AND CLAIM YOUR DESTANY! HEAVEN ON EARTH AND ME! IAM IS WAITING! & I AM GOD'S BABYGIRL I HAVE THE PLAN THAT THE WORLD HAS BEEN WAITING FOR! HEAVEN ON EARTH IN IS THE PALM OF MY HAND! ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS BELIEVE IN ME! DO YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE? I NEED YOU NOWWWWW! GOD BLESS & LOVE POWER!  that was so beautiful
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BlaqueKnight said: silverandgold said: No, it was other people that didn't want to admit he was Black for the comfort of their own wants and needs of him. Plus he knew most Black women wouldn't let him get away with crap that most non-black women will put up with, He wasn't stupid. He knew exactly who it was easier to play with at the time.. I have never heard of him denying being Black. In many of his songs he sure proved he was if you really listened to his songs.. You have to remember, he was younger back then and living the "rock style" life. What other females do you think was more into him then? So it's no surprise that you were used to seeing him with them. Especially back in the 80s a lot of artists were forced to perform in videos and on stage with non-black females, since then, as you have noticed that has changed tremendously. But I have never heard anyone quote him saying he wasn't Black, especially when both his parents were Black. And please, don't start with all that nonsense about "ooh, his mother was half this or daddy was half that,"all nothing but rumors since Purple Rain gave them that impression because of the role the actress who played his mother in Purple Rain. It has been noted that it was not Prince's idea for a white actress to play his mother and give people that false assumption. I believe it was the director or producer's idea. It was a smart move to attract a white audience to see the film. Regardless, Robin was basically saying that Prince is colorstruck when it comes to the women he dates. No surprise there when you look at his list of women. He may have never said publically that he wasn't black (Robin probably has a better idea of what he says in private than you or I do) but he's never tried to make it undeniably clear, either. Although most black people have always known and never thought he was mixed or something else, ultimately people want to hear HIM say it and he never satisfied that because he seemed to have thought it would hurt his pockets. He's probably right. Still, this is one of the reasons Prince could never be seen as a shining example of a black man. That "Tiger Woods sh*t" just don't cut it with most black folks. When light-skinned negroes iz broke, they's black but when they gets a little change rumblin' in they pocketz, all of a sudden their "other heritages" come out. I couldn't have said it better. This dynamic is little understood outside of our community. It's not a simple matter of loving someone of another race, which most of us don't have a problem with. It's a whole mind trip experienced to some degree by decendants of slaves throughout this hemisphere and anybody who thinks P is immune to it is probably uncomfortable discussing it or maybe in denial about it because it's Prince. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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