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A little rearranging If they were to get rid of the anemically popluated Org Artist Community forum (artists could just post the few threads that happen there in General Discussion, and, it would serve their intent much better, which is to show their stuff to the general public to create a general discussion about it), and replace that forum with a Michael Jackson forum (since there are a variety of types of threads started that originate from him as subject, and you would actually get more activity than is curently in the Artist Community forum), then you would get more user happiness and more usage of Prince.org. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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The site owner created the org artist community forum so folks on here could post their artistic/musical talents. Folks post their stuff on Facebook and other sites or have their own blog.
And there won't be an MJ forum. This is not MJ.org. There are sites on the net dedicated to MJ. 
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oh, I should write to ole "Ben" Kenobi. Maybe he'll actually respond.
The reality is, this forum is a Prince fansite which in turn is very related to the pop icon of Michael Jackson in terms of pop environment/society from the past. The division of forums needs to reflect the percentage of posts about a certain subject, so if a ton of Prince fans starting posting specifically about MJ, then it will have to get it's own forum to keep the site effectivally reflecting Prince fandom. Prince himself had interacted with Michael Jackson, sought to give him music, his childhood friends and members of The Time produced remixes and work for the Jackson clan in Prince style sound, and even Sheila E recently revealed she is close with the Jackson family and secretly played on a track of one of Michael Jackson's big hits.
Your response makes it sound like you think MJ is a threat to Prince, and he's not. He's dead.
Also,something like Politics and Religion where posts mostly have absolutely nothing to do with Prince fandom is still appropriate. That's because it is popular with the Prince fan community and deserves to be there. Stats prove this.
And the other reality is that most org artists no longer use the artist forum (only a few stragglers post there that certainly don't represent the large percentage of creative members here). If you look at the traffic stats there compared to what was there 8 years ago, it's completely died because of natural evolution by users of the site. I think the main reason is a fundamental misunderstanding of what a princefan artist intends when they post something. They intend to share it with a prince fan public. Not only other artists and not general people.
That's why that artist forum should be removed, it's just not popular enough to deserve to exist on Prince.org, other forums that shold be removed are obvious from the lack of interest... the stats.
It's also is dysfunctional to the mission of this site ( to support discussion and celebrate all things Prince and Prince related and create a virtual social community of those fans) to limit or move posts to that forum because it is not a viewed forum. The absolute main qualities of Prince himself, that a lot of fans take to heart, is industrious creative expression shared to the public. That is fundamentally what Prince is all about across all aspects of his work and career. In order to celebrate that beilef that is strong within most his fans, this site shold support the same mission. Not try to squelch it.
Also, you just moved a video I did not create to the org artist forum. The artist that made that video is not an org member and also does not intend for that piece to be considered an art piece. It's documentation meant to be informative. It's only about what I was doing one day, it doesn't even contain the music piece that I was making. My art book: http://www.lulu.com/spotl...ecomicskid
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If MJ had a forum then folks would want a forum for each musical artist as well. As I said an MJ forum won't happen.
A discussion has been brought up before http://prince.org/msg/3/376555
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That's not true because no other artist other than Prince's actual associate artists were so connected to Prince on a variety of levels of discussion and pop culture, plus trying to guess as to how people are going to act is probably not a sound way to figure out the site.
it's really simple. You need to count the number of posts that fit within a general category (and sure that category needs to be decided on by a group of smart people) and that category becomes a forum. And, if there are not enough posts within a forum (not enough activity) than get rid of that forum. There's no need for debate, or prediction, you just look at the stats (the truth) and the forums categories could always change depending on the evolution of the fans interests. Maybe they need to be looked at every 2-3 years for adjustments.
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that's not really your decision, is it?
You may ACT like you own the place, but you don't. If Ben were to decide to create an MJ forum, what are you gonna do about it? | |
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LOL a Michael Jackson forum will not happen
this has already been discussed with Ben | |
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If I were Ben, I would probably ban everybody that post regularly 4 a month abotu MJ and never mention Prince.
It's a disagrace for Prince, the org is read by associates etc... Prince I will always miss and love U. | |
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Why should we get banned just because we like mj? some Prince fans clame that we're crazy but we arent. We are just normal people that like different artist. OzlemUcucu said:
If I were Ben, I would probably ban everybody that post regularly 4 a month abotu MJ and never mention Prince.
It's a disagrace for Prince, the org is read by associates etc... | |
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Cause I already discussed this few times on MJ threads. Some people (including yourself) regard this site as a music forum only. It's not. It's fan forum dedicated to Prince fans only. Most MJ fans come here and flood the MJ thread, cause they all wanna discuss MJ under the premise it's a music forum. They have nothing else to contribute and just wanna discuss MJ:
There are specific fan forums for discussing music in general and forums for MJ. The purpose of this site is Prince only. Makes sense?
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No, not at all. Nothing you say ever makes sense.
The 'music: non-prince' forum is for discussing all types of music except Prince, and that is including Michael Jackson. It is assumed that everyone here is a Prince fan.. but Prince is doing nothing interesting now, so most of us are only posting in the non-Prince forums. Would you like to ban everyone who doesn't post about Prince regularly... ban everybody who stays in the GD forum? ban everyone who posts mainly in P&R? ban everybody who posts in the 'music: non-prince' forum, but not about MJ?
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Yes, that's exactly what I'd be doing. I have my doubts that everyone posting on music non prince forum is a Prince fan. As you said it's an assumption. If somebody wants to discuss for months and months other musicians, specially MJ since there is a specific perm thread on this subject, but has absolutely nothing to contribute on Prince, that tells me they are not much interested in Prince's music as they believe they are, regardless if Prince is doing anything interesting right now. It's also not very difficult to depict those people, it's very easy to see the posting pattern.
I don't think this is really very difficult to understand at all.
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So you would ban every single member here that only talk about mj yet you would keep the rest of the members that dont? OzlemUcucu said:
Yes, that's exactly what I'd be doing. I have my doubts that everyone posting on music non prince forum is a Prince fan. As you said it's an assumption. If somebody wants to discuss for months and months other musicians, specially MJ since there is a specific perm thread on this subject, but has absolutely nothing to contribute on Prince, that tells me they are not much interested in Prince's music as they believe they are, regardless if Prince is doing anything interesting right now. It's also not very difficult to depict those people, it's very easy to see the posting pattern.
I don't think this is really very difficult to understand at all.
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