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Charles Manson Dead

Good Riddance

Charles Manson, mastermind behind 1969 deaths of actress Sharon Tate, 6 others, dead at 83

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Cult leader Charles Manso... at age 83

One of America's most notorious mass killers spent four decades in prison.

Charles Manson, the hippie cult leader who became the hypnotic-eyed face of evil across America after orchestrating the gruesome murders of pregnant actress Sharon Tate and six others in Los Angeles during the summer of 1969, died Sunday after nearly a half-century in prison. He was 83.

Manson, whose name to this day is synonymous with unspeakable violence and madness, died of natural causes at Kern County hospital, according to a California Department of Corrections statement.

TMZ was first to report on the killer's death. The celebrity-news site reported that Debra Tate, the sister of Sharon, said she received a call from Corcoran State Prison informing her that Manson died.

Manson is shown in this handout picture dated June 16, 2011 (REUTERS/CDCR/Handout )

Sporting a carved swastika on his forehead, Manson was the long-haired, wild-eyed head of a California desert commune in the late 1960s.

The “Manson Family” was largely made up of runaways and societal dropouts whom Manson controlled with a mix of his charismatic yet calculating personality and hallucinogenic drugs.

Obsessed with Armageddon and what he saw as a coming race war, Manson masterminded a series of murders that he hoped would spur black vs. white violence. A failed musician, Manson believed several songs on The Beatles’ “White Album” – notably “Helter Skelter” – also predicted a racial clash.

He ordered a small, devoted group of followers to carry out the murders, although he never took part in the actual acts.

“There’s no need to feel guilty,” Manson said during an interview in the 1980s. “I haven’t done anything I’m ashamed of.”

While Manson may have ordered dozens of slayings, he was eventually convicted for two high-profile massacres.

The first occurred at the Beverly Hills house of director Roman Polanski and claimed the lives of his wife, actress Sharon Tate, her unborn child and five others. Polanski was away at the time. One of the enduring images of the brutal slaying is the word “pig” scrawled in blood on a door of the house.

The next night, another group of Manson devotees killed Leno and Rosemary LaBianca.

Manson was convicted of first-degree murder in 1971 for the Tate/LaBianca killings and sentenced to death. But the California Supreme Court’s 1972 decision to outlaw capital punishment automatically commuted Manson’s sentence to life behind bars at California’s Corcoran State Prison.

In interviews, he’d frequently challenge the notion that he was guilty of the murders and never showed remorse.

March 5, 1971: Manson arrives in a courtroom in Los Angeles. (AP)

“Remorse for what?” Manson said. “You people have done everything in the world to me. Doesn’t that give me equal right? I can do anything I want to you people anytime I want because that’s what you’ve done to me.”

Manson was rejected for parole 12 times and would not have been eligible to apply again until 2027.

Despite his infamous reputation as one of the 20th century’s most twisted mass murderers, Manson still managed to attract fans behind bars and nearly married a woman in her 20s in 2014. The woman, who called herself Star, applied for a marriage license with Manson, then 80, but a ceremony never took place.

Manson, born Charles Milles Maddox, was born in Ohio in 1934 to a 16-year-old alcoholic prostitute. She later married a man named William Manson, who was not Charles’ father, but from whom he took his notorious last name. Spurned by his mother and with no interest in attending school, Manson spent much of his early years committing crimes such as burglary, armed robbery, auto theft, check forgery and pimping.

August 25, 1989: Manson clowns around as he is led to his cell upon the conclusion of his interview with Reuters. (Reuters)

He had numerous stints in prison and spent about half of his first three decades in a penitentiary.

Following a release from jail in 1967, Manson befriended Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson. Manson and several of his followers lived at Wilson’s home for a period of time and the Beach Boys ended up recording a song, “Never Learn Not to Love,” that was heavily influenced by one of Manson’s compositions, “Cease to Exist.”

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Reply #1 posted 11/20/17 5:39am

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Let's not forget the victims

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Reply #2 posted 11/20/17 5:56am

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The newspaper in germany already remember why he became a "pop icon". It's really disgusting, ther should talk about and remember his victims. We should forget that this bastard existed.

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Reply #3 posted 11/20/17 6:39am

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RIP CHOLLIE!!!

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Reply #4 posted 11/20/17 7:20am

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ThatWhiteDude said:

The newspaper in germany already remember why he became a "pop icon". It's really disgusting, ther should talk about and remember his victims. We should forget that this bastard existed.



I don't know if I agree with that. I don't think people like Charles Manson should be forgotten. If for no other reason, it's a reminder of how downright evil some people can be. Remembering these kinds of bastards is also remembering that people like them still exist in the world today and hopefully, that knowledge can be used to prevent these kinds of things from happening again.
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Reply #5 posted 11/20/17 8:53am

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glad the infamous scumbag drifter druggie, pimp is dead. Cause that's what he was...

I don't know why the word "pimp" gets any fair connotation in a supposed "enlightened" age either. That's what this piece of shit was.


He gets far too much notoriety.

I don't believe they'd have gotten him on anything but conspiracy in this day and age though. Not certain he even participated in stuff... had these fucking loons eating out of the palm of his hand.

I hope some of his shit regurigitated before he died. (if that's at all possible)

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Reply #6 posted 11/20/17 12:08pm

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Rise Political piggies. hehe

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Reply #7 posted 11/20/17 12:48pm

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About time... razz

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Reply #8 posted 11/20/17 3:24pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Rise Political piggies. hehe

something cute about Charlie there, to u?

or was it just the murdered people, and pregnant woman?

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Reply #9 posted 11/22/17 10:00am

Empress

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About time... razz

He should've been given the electric chair decades ago. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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Reply #10 posted 11/22/17 12:50pm

uPtoWnNY

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purplethunder3121 said:

About time... razz

He should've been given the electric chair decades ago. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

They should have fried the whole damn Manson family.

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Reply #11 posted 11/22/17 1:22pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

About time... razz

Exactly. This monster gets to live almost 50 years after the murders he committed. So many young children have died from cancer within in that time frame and yet this monster gets to live. Life is not fair.

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Reply #12 posted 11/24/17 9:43am

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uPtoWnNY said:

Empress said:

He should've been given the electric chair decades ago. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

They should have fried the whole damn Manson family.

Right on!

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Reply #13 posted 11/24/17 2:36pm

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There's a podcast I LOVE that gives the backstory on Old Hollywood in all it's highs, lows, glories, excesses and debauchery,called "You Must Remember This". A while back they did a series on Charles Manson that was very...well, both intriguing and disturbing. Intriguing in finding out that he actually had marginal connections in Hollywood and wanted badly to be part of that world, and disturbing of course , for the obvious; the way in which his desciples killed those people makes me wonder how ANY of them ever came up for parole, ever. What they did was beyond heinous and evil.

Anyhoo, I never knew much about him outside of the kind of legend mystique of the murders and the few headlines he made with scandalous interviews in the 1980s. It was very interesting to find (like many a demon sociopath that came vefore him in history) little Charlie was a failed artist - big on hippie lifetstyle and talking a great game to get noticed, good at freeloading and trying to ride Hollywood insiders coat tails to stardom, only to be discovered later and humilated as an untalented fraud that could never rise to any occasion that required him to step up to the plate and deliver any degree of artistsic competency, as in, couldn't even make his way through a recording session.

Check out this series, be forewarned that the last in the series details what happened the night of theTate murders in grisly detail...again, it just makes you wonder how could ANY of these people ever be allowed to stand before parole boards? They'v ealll beeen denied through the years, of course...but still....you have to be beyond deviant and effed up in the head to do what they did....and I'm not entirely convinced that even if they stated out as good kids ho fell onto the wrong road and were messed up on drugs that night that, well what they did still wouldn't have jacked up their psyche in some way...I mean, how do you go back onto the sreets and lead a normal life after you carve a baby out of someone's stomach???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoMnxu1y1_k

TV & Film- EP.#47: Ch... - YouTube

EP.#46: Charles Manson’... - YouTube

TV & Film- EP.#47: Ch... - YouTube

TV & Film - Remember This - EP.#48: Charles Manson’s Hollywood, Part 5: Doris Day and Terry Melcher - YouTube

EP.#49: Charles Manson’... - YouTube

TV & Film - Remember ... - YouTube

TV & Film - You Must ... - YouTube

TV & Film - EP.#53: C... - YouTube

I don't have all of them here, but someone please feel free to edit my post and add all the youtiube vids if you like....I gotta head out for a sec.. wink

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Reply #14 posted 11/25/17 6:53am

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Ottensen said:

There's a podcast I LOVE that gives the backstory on Old Hollywood in all it's highs, lows, glories, excesses and debauchery,called "You Must Remember This". A while back they did a series on Charles Manson that was very...well, both intriguing and disturbing. Intriguing in finding out that he actually had marginal connections in Hollywood and wanted badly to be part of that world, and disturbing of course , for the obvious; the way in which his desciples killed those people makes me wonder how ANY of them ever came up for parole, ever. What they did was beyond heinous and evil.

Anyhoo, I never knew much about him outside of the kind of legend mystique of the murders and the few headlines he made with scandalous interviews in the 1980s. It was very interesting to find (like many a demon sociopath that came vefore him in history) little Charlie was a failed artist - big on hippie lifetstyle and talking a great game to get noticed, good at freeloading and trying to ride Hollywood insiders coat tails to stardom, only to be discovered later and humilated as an untalented fraud that could never rise to any occasion that required him to step up to the plate and deliver any degree of artistsic competency, as in, couldn't even make his way through a recording session.

Check out this series, be forewarned that the last in the series details what happened the night of theTate murders in grisly detail...again, it just makes you wonder how could ANY of these people ever be allowed to stand before parole boards? They'v ealll beeen denied through the years, of course...but still....you have to be beyond deviant and effed up in the head to do what they did....and I'm not entirely convinced that even if they stated out as good kids ho fell onto the wrong road and were messed up on drugs that night that, well what they did still wouldn't have jacked up their psyche in some way...I mean, how do you go back onto the sreets and lead a normal life after you carve a baby out of someone's stomach???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoMnxu1y1_k

TV & Film- EP.#47: Ch... - YouTube

EP.#46: Charles Manson’... - YouTube

TV & Film- EP.#47: Ch... - YouTube

TV & Film - Remember This - EP.#48: Charles Manson’s Hollywood, Part 5: Doris Day and Terry Melcher - YouTube

EP.#49: Charles Manson’... - YouTube

TV & Film - Remember ... - YouTube

TV & Film - You Must ... - YouTube

TV & Film - EP.#53: C... - YouTube

I don't have all of them here, but someone please feel free to edit my post and add all the youtiube vids if you like....I gotta head out for a sec.. wink

Wow, those are some interesting videos. Thanks for posting.

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Reply #15 posted 11/25/17 7:14pm

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2045RadicalMattZ said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Rise Political piggies. hehe

something cute about Charlie there, to u?

or was it just the murdered people, and pregnant woman?

[Edited 11/20/17 15:33pm]

Because Charlie was born in Cincinnati, most likely a Bengals fan lol

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Reply #16 posted 11/26/17 8:49am

Ottensen

KoolEaze said:

Ottensen said:

There's a podcast I LOVE that gives the backstory on Old Hollywood in all it's highs, lows, glories, excesses and debauchery,called "You Must Remember This". A while back they did a series on Charles Manson that was very...well, both intriguing and disturbing. Intriguing in finding out that he actually had marginal connections in Hollywood and wanted badly to be part of that world, and disturbing of course , for the obvious; the way in which his desciples killed those people makes me wonder how ANY of them ever came up for parole, ever. What they did was beyond heinous and evil.

Anyhoo, I never knew much about him outside of the kind of legend mystique of the murders and the few headlines he made with scandalous interviews in the 1980s. It was very interesting to find (like many a demon sociopath that came vefore him in history) little Charlie was a failed artist - big on hippie lifetstyle and talking a great game to get noticed, good at freeloading and trying to ride Hollywood insiders coat tails to stardom, only to be discovered later and humilated as an untalented fraud that could never rise to any occasion that required him to step up to the plate and deliver any degree of artistsic competency, as in, couldn't even make his way through a recording session.

Check out this series, be forewarned that the last in the series details what happened the night of theTate murders in grisly detail...again, it just makes you wonder how could ANY of these people ever be allowed to stand before parole boards? They'v ealll beeen denied through the years, of course...but still....you have to be beyond deviant and effed up in the head to do what they did....and I'm not entirely convinced that even if they stated out as good kids ho fell onto the wrong road and were messed up on drugs that night that, well what they did still wouldn't have jacked up their psyche in some way...I mean, how do you go back onto the sreets and lead a normal life after you carve a baby out of someone's stomach???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoMnxu1y1_k

TV & Film- EP.#47: Ch... - YouTube

EP.#46: Charles Manson’... - YouTube

TV & Film- EP.#47: Ch... - YouTube

TV & Film - Remember ... - YouTube

EP.#49: Charles Manson’... - YouTube

TV & Film - Remember ... - YouTube

TV & Film - You Must ... - YouTube

TV & Film - EP.#53: C... - YouTube

I don't have all of them here, but someone please feel free to edit my post and add all the youtiube vids if you like....I gotta head out for a sec.. wink

Wow, those are some interesting videos. Thanks for posting.

It's actually taken from a really cool podcast: for people who love Old Hollywood, they dig up the dirt and six degrees of separation between everybody, from singers to starlets, to hearthrobs to studio heads. For people who would rather listen to the show via podcast, you can get these episodes (and those ranging from everyone and everything to Joan Craword, Lena Horne,The Hollywood Blacklist, Jane Fonda, and Barbra Streisand) over on:

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/you-must-remember-this/id858124601?mt=2

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Stitcher

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/panoply/you-must-remember-this

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Podbay

http://podbay.fm/show/858124601

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The dig up everything on EVERYBODY..it's totally juicy backstory scoop on almost anyone you can imagine. nod

Manson likely made it onto the show via his degree of separation from The Beach Boys, Doris Day, etc. I love how much painstaking detail and research goes into everyone's backstory, even the minor players who have long lost/ long forgotten legacy in Tinstletown.

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Reply #17 posted 11/28/17 12:39am

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Off with his head! mad

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Reply #18 posted 11/28/17 12:49pm

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Perhaps the best film made on his crimes. Glad he is dead. I heard Rick James was supposed to be there that night but he was busy with something else...

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