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April 3 2017

The syringe slides in between the thumb and index finger. Then, with a click, a microchip is injected in the employee's hand. Another “cyborg” is created.

What could pass for a dystopian vision of the workplace is almost routine at the Swedish start-up hub Epicenter. The company offers to implant its workers and start-up members with microchips the size of grains of rice that function as swipe cards: to open doors, operate printers or buy smoothies with a wave of the hand.

“The biggest benefit, I think, is convenience,” said Patrick Mesterton, co-founder and chief executive of Epicenter. As a demonstration, he unlocks a door merely by waving near it. “It basically replaces a lot of things you have, other communication devices, whether it be credit cards or keys.”

The technology itself is not new: Such chips are used as virtual collar plates for pets, and companies use them to track deliveries. But never before has the technology been used to tag employees on a broad scale. Epicenter and a handful of other companies are the first to make chip implants broadly available.

And as with most new technologies, it raises security and privacy issues. Although the chips are biologically safe, the data they generate can show how often employees come to work or what they buy. Unlike company swipe cards or smartphones, which can generate the same data, people cannot easily separate themselves from the chips.

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i've been reading about and hearing about microchiping humans for years. i am aware that they have been used in certain u s areas for implants for dog licensing.

however microchiping people seems a bit intrusive into a person's personal life.

for it? NOT

In this day and age, I expect it, it's just a matter of when.

Oh, hell to the NO!

The beginnings of the human cloud.

morningsong said:

The beginnings of the human cloud.

I guess it helps if I'm a little more precise about what I mean.

By 2030, it’s possible that humans will have evolved to a new type of thinking — “hybrid thinking” — which would fuse our brains with technology.

Ray Kurzweil, the director of engineering at Google, is known for his audacious predictions for the future, many of which have proven to be accurate. Since the mid-80s, he’s predicted technological breakthroughs that were seen as ludicrous sci-fi fantasies at the time — wirelessly accessing information via the Internet, prosthetic legs for paraplegics, self-driving cars, the list goes on.

Now, Kurzweil predicts that by the year 2030, humans will be immersed in an entirely new type of cognition — hybrid thinking. Essentially, hybrid thinking fuses the human brain and technology, providing the brain with instantaneous access to the cloud. (For those wondering what exactly “the cloud” is, it’s an interconnected network of thousands of computers and services that run on the internet, like Dropbox, Netflix, and Google Drive.)

If you work for the company are you allowed to refuse?

• 1Origins and development in academia
• 2Hobbyists
• 3Commercial implants
  • 3.1Medical records use
  • 3.2Building access and security
  • 3.3Possible future applications
• 4Potential problems
  • 4.1Cancer
  • 4.2Other medical complications
  • 4.3Security risks
• 5Societal and religious criticism
  • 5.1Christianity
• 6Legislation

at this point i'd say this is some scary shiete. i mean what are the chances that the central system might get hacked?

then there you go, you're on your way to work and you start cyber freaking out, then go catatonic, then one becomes a cyber-zombie. i mean no one ever thought the banking systems could ever get hacked, or etc with other systems. or worse yet some sort of cyber virus sets in.

I get it from the christian point of view.



I find the intrusiveness highly annoying. But then it comes down to choice, are people being banded from a job because they decide against it?

I don't' think it's the mark of the beast, as a lot of Christians would think. (Many things have to happen before the mark of the beast is actually implemented, according to Revelations). Not discussing religion - just putting it out there as someone who was raised in it.

But to echo others - oh hell to the no! You ain't puttin' shit in me like that. My cat is chipped, but I am not wandering off getting lost or need my shots.

Just not gonna happen. Ever. And no company can mandate that an employee get something in or on them.

TrivialPursuit said:

I don't' think it's the mark of the beast, as a lot of Christians would think. (Many things have to happen before the mark of the beast is actually implemented, according to Revelations). Not discussing religion - just putting it out there as someone who was raised in it.

But to echo others - oh hell to the no! You ain't puttin' shit in me like that. My cat is chipped, but I am not wandering off getting lost or need my shots.

Just not gonna happen. Ever. And no company can mandate that an employee get something in or on them.

I think they could start with released inmates, sex offenders and a few others

I do not know if this is akin to the mark of the beast, but in the 70s my (okay I can admit he was a bit of a loon) pastor was telling us that someday we would have them chips (like an ATM card) and they would be required to have a job or buy food or travel.

The thing is a company could very well be allowed to make one required for employment.

but then again many of us are conditioning ourselves for this. From cash to credit to ATM to dongles to phone apps-- many of us have already moved towards them. I bet that we will see more things like a chip on the skin or a fingernail or in a watch or ring.

morningsong said:

I get it from the christian point of view.



I find the intrusiveness highly annoying. But then it comes down to choice, are people being banded from a job because they decide against it?

I think they could very well win lawsuits for requiring them.

OldFriends4Sale said:

TrivialPursuit said:

I don't' think it's the mark of the beast, as a lot of Christians would think. (Many things have to happen before the mark of the beast is actually implemented, according to Revelations). Not discussing religion - just putting it out there as someone who was raised in it.

But to echo others - oh hell to the no! You ain't puttin' shit in me like that. My cat is chipped, but I am not wandering off getting lost or need my shots.

Just not gonna happen. Ever. And no company can mandate that an employee get something in or on them.

I think they could start with released inmates, sex offenders and a few others

I'd disagree. There is still an argument for human rights here. And we know damn well the prison population is targeted at being filled by minorities (thanks to the bullshit war on drugs). 97% of people in jails and prisons are non-violent offenders. Meaning they were using drugs, or ran a few too many red lights, or something that didn't involve them holding a gun or physically attacking someone else. People are being locked up for 20+ years, or life for smoking weed or meth. And while there are arguments against that, it's not a reason to lock someone up for their life. There's no rehab in it, and there are drugs in prison. So it's basically rounding up people to put them in prison for labor or whatever other reason the white man came up with. So - no, inmates aren't a shoe-in for this.

Sex offenders - I mean, I don't know. They do need to be kept in check for a while, see who is more likely to re-offend and who isn't. Some levels of offenders actually have to check in with an officer of the court every single day, 7 days a week. Some wear ankle monitors and are only allowed to go to work or the grocery store. So that'd be a case by case basis.

But I don't think anyone should be required to have an electronic tracking implant in their body, period. That's outright Orwellian shit.

TrivialPursuit said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I think they could start with released inmates, sex offenders and a few others

I'd disagree. There is still an argument for human rights here. And we know damn well the prison population is targeted at being filled by minorities (thanks to the bullshit war on drugs). 97% of people in jails and prisons are non-violent offenders. Meaning they were using drugs, or ran a few too many red lights, or something that didn't involve them holding a gun or physically attacking someone else. People are being locked up for 20+ years, or life for smoking weed or meth. And while there are arguments against that, it's not a reason to lock someone up for their life. There's no rehab in it, and there are drugs in prison. So it's basically rounding up people to put them in prison for labor or whatever other reason the white man came up with. So - no, inmates aren't a shoe-in for this.

Sex offenders - I mean, I don't know. They do need to be kept in check for a while, see who is more likely to re-offend and who isn't. Some levels of offenders actually have to check in with an officer of the court every single day, 7 days a week. Some wear ankle monitors and are only allowed to go to work or the grocery store. So that'd be a case by case basis.

But I don't think anyone should be required to have an electronic tracking implant in their body, period. That's outright Orwellian shit.

I'm just saying if it happens, I think that is where it will start.

Maybe with high level criminal(murderers and rapists -sex offenders)

or in place with people like Kim Jong-Un in charge

[Edited 4/5/17 9:04am]

OnlyNDaUsa said:

morningsong said:

I get it from the christian point of view.



I find the intrusiveness highly annoying. But then it comes down to choice, are people being banded from a job because they decide against it?

I think they could very well win lawsuits for requiring them.

I think that's true, but I'm not 100% sure.

morningsong said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

I think they could very well win lawsuits for requiring them.

I think that's true, but I'm not 100% sure.

they already have ID cards and maybe even bracelets with chips in them for getting in or out. So the progression is underway.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

morningsong said:

I think that's true, but I'm not 100% sure.

they already have ID cards and maybe even bracelets with chips in them for getting in or out. So the progression is underway.

2030 is only 13 years away. Convenience will trump(not a pun) a lot of things, and people will volunteerly be opened to a lot of things.

Well obviously it is happen, the workers for the company volunteered. Sweden...

Swedish company Epicenter implants microchips into employees

SOME workers have been implanted with microchips that allow the companies that employ them to track their every move. Swedish company Epicenter will embed a chip into about 150 workers, so bosses can monitor toilet breaks and how long they work. The workers volunteered to have the microchip, which is about as big as a grain of rice, implanted for free.

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well obviously it is happen, the workers for the company volunteered. Sweden...

Swedish company Epicenter implants microchips into employees

SOME workers have been implanted with microchips that allow the companies that employ them to track their every move. Swedish company Epicenter will embed a chip into about 150 workers, so bosses can monitor toilet breaks and how long they work. The workers volunteered to have the microchip, which is about as big as a grain of rice, implanted for free.

Now see, you got to be careful on how someone judges how you pee.

Microchip in yo neck - Prince, The War!!!!!

PurpleSpirit319 said:

Microchip in yo neck - Prince, The War!!!!!

chocolate microchip....right on!

morningsong said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Well obviously it is happen, the workers for the company volunteered. Sweden...

Swedish company Epicenter implants microchips into employees

SOME workers have been implanted with microchips that allow the companies that employ them to track their every move. Swedish company Epicenter will embed a chip into about 150 workers, so bosses can monitor toilet breaks and how long they work. The workers volunteered to have the microchip, which is about as big as a grain of rice, implanted for free.

Now see, you got to be careful on how someone judges how you pee.

just wait until like that movie (the island with ewan mcgregor?) where when you pee it analyzes your heath and diet.