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Reply #30 posted 05/27/16 9:05pm

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Reply #31 posted 05/27/16 9:11pm

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http://www.eonline.com/ne...-documents


Thanks for that thumbs up! , already there is misinformation being spread like wildfire sad wacky

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Reply #32 posted 05/27/16 9:12pm

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luv4u said:

http://www.eonline.com/ne...-documents


Thanks for that thumbs up! , already there is misinformation being spread like wildfire sad wacky


Yeah the media is having a hey day with this one.

She is an actress with a good career and is making money. She greedy lol

Now I wonder if Johnny regrets leaving Vanessa..........

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Reply #33 posted 05/27/16 9:17pm

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That is sad if she was "allegedly" abused by him for several years. If that was the case, she should have left him and got a restraining order like she did now. If he has issues, he needs to get help.
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Reply #34 posted 05/27/16 9:21pm

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Goddess4Real said:

Thanks for that thumbs up! , already there is misinformation being spread like wildfire sad wacky


Yeah the media is having a hey day with this one.

She is an actress with a good career and is making money. She greedy lol

Now I wonder if Johnny regrets leaving Vanessa..........

Well he looked alot better and happier when he was with Vanessa here at the Oscars in 2004 with his mom, bless her pray

With Amber I have yet to see her in anything good. She sucked the life of every scene in Magic Mike 2 (which I might add wasn't as good as the first one). I read that she is gonna be in the new Justice League film maybe it will help her......um career lol

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Reply #35 posted 05/27/16 9:29pm

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Remember how akward that video was last month when they had to apologise for the Pistol and Boo drama in Australia, it was just like watching them in The Rum Diary....no chemistry. This parody made me laugh https://www.youtube.com/w...4Xh2KBI4I0 lol

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Reply #36 posted 05/27/16 9:51pm

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luv4u said:


Wow..... this is going to get so ugly.....

sad eek




More like nuclear, in those court docs she claims that abuse has been going on for 4 years and she has video evidence. This reminds of the Mel Gibson drama where left his wife of 30 yrs for his mistress, who later accused him of abuse, and leaked all those phones messages (Mel had a history of being bipolar and an alcoholic). She ended up with alot of money and his reputation was in ruins (even though he got some work eg. The Beaver, Expendables 3). My friend still finds the timing of this suspect, and although ALL DV cases should be taken very seriously, their are some ppl out there who would fake DV and use it as a weapon against their partner for money etc. I'm just sad and hope for the best I really do.


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Doesn't seem like they've been together for over 4 years. He was being abusive before they got married? Why get married? Um, so she was documenting abuse before they got married, married im, documented more abuse, then gets a divorce requesting xyz amounts in spousal support after less than 1.5 yrs of marriage? I don't like how that sounds.
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Reply #37 posted 05/28/16 4:35am

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big johnny fan here... one of the few with real swagger ala brando etc... but the last few times i've seen him it's troubled me a bit... seems a bit messy (not literally)... if he's putting his hands on his lady (not saying he is), he needs to get his shit together real quick

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Reply #38 posted 05/28/16 5:26am

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What I find shocking is how everybody defends Johnny Depp and blames the victim.


Why is domestic abuse excusable when it is executed by Johnny Depp?


He can abuse his wife because he is pretty?


The general response in the media of victim blaming really surprises me. And shows how the reality is for women. If you get abused as a woman and finally have the courage to stand up against your abuser, you get blamed and shamed and targeted.


This really baffles me.


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Reply #39 posted 05/28/16 5:29am

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Maybe you should educate yourself a bit more about how abuse works, before you blame the victim. Of course she thought he would change. Of course she told herself it would get better.

That is how it works. The abuser will execute his power over the abused not only by means of physical aggression. Also with psychological abuse. That goes hand in hand.


What makes you defend him and blame her?

morningsong said:

Goddess4Real said:

More like nuclear, in those court docs she claims that abuse has been going on for 4 years and she has video evidence. This reminds of the Mel Gibson drama where left his wife of 30 yrs for his mistress, who later accused him of abuse, and leaked all those phones messages (Mel had a history of being bipolar and an alcoholic). She ended up with alot of money and his reputation was in ruins (even though he got some work eg. The Beaver, Expendables 3). My friend still finds the timing of this suspect, and although ALL DV cases should be taken very seriously, their are some ppl out there who would fake DV and use it as a weapon against their partner for money etc. I'm just sad and hope for the best I really do.

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Doesn't seem like they've been together for over 4 years. He was being abusive before they got married? Why get married? Um, so she was documenting abuse before they got married, married im, documented more abuse, then gets a divorce requesting xyz amounts in spousal support after less than 1.5 yrs of marriage? I don't like how that sounds.

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Reply #40 posted 05/28/16 6:30am

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I was just thinking about the horrific impact this openly victim blaming has.

I think she sets a great example. However, the negative reactions also will impact other women who are abused. They notice the response Amber gets and that is not exactly supportive. Didn't the media learn nothing of the Bill Cosby case? No matter how charming or pretty the abuser is, he should be hold responsible.

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Reply #41 posted 05/28/16 7:30am

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dJJ said:

What I find shocking is how everybody defends Johnny Depp and blames the victim.


Why is domestic abuse excusable when it is executed by Johnny Depp?


He can abuse his wife because he is pretty?


The general response in the media of victim blaming really surprises me. And shows how the reality is for women. If you get abused as a woman and finally have the courage to stand up against your abuser, you get blamed and shamed and targeted.


This really baffles me.



Well how is it that you are speaking as if the allegations are true that he did abuse her? You weren't there no more than any of us were so none of us can make any judgements of the situation. Right now, it's Ms. Heard's word against Depp's. The truth always comes to light whether she's faking it or if the situation(s) are true. Hopefully, it's not.
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Reply #42 posted 05/28/16 7:39am

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I was just thinking about the horrific impact this openly victim blaming has.

I think she sets a great example. However, the negative reactions also will impact other women who are abused. They notice the response Amber gets and that is not exactly supportive. Didn't the media learn nothing of the Bill Cosby case? No matter how charming or pretty the abuser is, he should be hold responsible.


Again, how do you know that she's in fact a victim? An accusation doesn't automatically mean that a person is a victim. There's been many cases of fabricated abuse. It's unfortunate as it makes those who have been in truly abusive situations lives more difficult, but fabricated abuse stories do exist and people have done this. I think the correlation between Mr. Depp's situation and Mr. Cosby's is an unfair comparison and two completely different situations entirely. Although he seems guilty enough, it has to be pointed out that Mr. Cosby has not been convicted of anything...yet. Johnny Depp isn't accused of drugging other women and sexually taking advantage of them, he is only being accused of domestic abuse.
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Reply #43 posted 05/28/16 7:42am

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It's weird because I have never liked Johnny Depp in spite of all the praise and admiration he gets.

He is one of those people that I took an instant dislike to and didn't even know why at the time.

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Reply #44 posted 05/28/16 7:54am

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It's weird because I have never liked Johnny Depp in spite of all the praise and admiration he gets.

He is one of those people that I took an instant dislike to and didn't even know why at the time.


He's a talented actor. I have a great respect for him in the art of acting but as far as his personality, I can't say since I've never met him before.
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Reply #45 posted 05/28/16 9:19am

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I wonder if Vanessa ever got abused..............

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Reply #46 posted 05/28/16 10:04am

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babynoz said:

It's weird because I have never liked Johnny Depp in spite of all the praise and admiration he gets.

He is one of those people that I took an instant dislike to and didn't even know why at the time.

He's a talented actor. I have a great respect for him in the art of acting but as far as his personality, I can't say since I've never met him before.



I think I mentioned here before that I have tried several times to watch his movies but for some reason I can't stand the sight of him.


There are a handful of people in this world that just rub me the wrong way and Depp is one of them..... shrug

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Reply #47 posted 05/28/16 10:16am

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I know that Johnny is a Gemini she is a Taurus Born in April. Generally speaking, that pairing is not Very Compatible. There is attraction mostly. Taurus people are known to have bad tempers and can be stubborn. Geminis are generally not physically Violent, they can be verbally! I believe there are two sides two every story. Also, if two people are not compatible astrologically, problems will arise. In addition, age difference, not being in love and other factors will cause a relationship to end.

It is a shame because they made a cute couple!
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Reply #48 posted 05/28/16 10:34am

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Dalia11 said:

I know that Johnny is a Gemini she is a Taurus Born in April. Generally speaking, that pairing is not Very Compatible. There is attraction mostly. Taurus people are known to have bad tempers and can be stubborn. Geminis are generally not physically Violent, they can be verbally! I believe there are two sides two every story. Also, if two people are not compatible astrologically, problems will arise. In addition, age difference, not being in love and other factors will cause a relationship to end. It is a shame because they made a cute couple! [Edited 5/28/16 10:20am]



Their relationship was not meant to be, but we have free will

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Reply #49 posted 05/28/16 10:35am

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Dalia11 said:

I know that Johnny is a Gemini she is a Taurus Born in April. Generally speaking, that pairing is not Very Compatible. There is attraction mostly. Taurus people are known to have bad tempers and can be stubborn. Geminis are generally not physically Violent, they can be verbally! I believe there are two sides two every story. Also, if two people are not compatible astrologically, problems will arise. In addition, age difference, not being in love and other factors will cause a relationship to end. It is a shame because they made a cute couple! [Edited 5/28/16 10:20am]



I'm a Gemini too and I still can't stand him. lol


But as for the compatibility I couldn't speak to that without having both charts to study. Sun sign astrology alone is just too general to answer specific questions.

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Reply #50 posted 05/28/16 11:25am

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That is why I said: "Generally Speaking"!
Numerology is also imperative to determine compatibility. I am curious so I will look up their planets and numbers to see what the stats are.

In Solar Astrology: Gemini is the 12th House from Taurus. Taurus is the 2nd House from Gemini.

The 12th House of the Zodiac represents: karma, past lives, spirituality, the unconscious mind, sorrow, troubles, prison, hospitals.

The 2nd House of the Zodiac represents: finances and other material conditions, resources,
comfort, luxury, the five senses.

Thus, in general, a Gemini will represent the influences of the 2nd House when dealing with a Taurus. And a Taurus will represent the influences of the 12th House when dealing with a Gemini. That is interesting!
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Reply #51 posted 05/28/16 1:23pm

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Dalia11 said:

That is why I said: "Generally Speaking"! Numerology is also imperative to determine compatibility. I am curious so I will look up their planets and numbers to see what the stats are. In Solar Astrology: Gemini is the 12th House from Taurus. Taurus is the 2nd House from Gemini. The 12th House of the Zodiac represents: karma, past lives, spirituality, the unconscious mind, sorrow, troubles, prison, hospitals. The 2nd House of the Zodiac represents: finances and other material conditions, resources, comfort, luxury, the five senses. Thus, in general, a Gemini will represent the influences of the 2nd House when dealing with a Taurus. And a Taurus will represent the influences of the 12th House when dealing with a Gemini. That is interesting!



Do you have their birth times and places? That would be interesting.

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Reply #52 posted 05/28/16 2:03pm

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I looked up Johns chart and her planets.

His Rising sign is Leo. Aquarius is a good sign for him to marry.

His Sun is 18 deg Gemini, with a Libra sub-influence.

His Moon is in 13 deg Capricorn.

His Mars is in 3 deg Virgo. His Venus is in 26 deg Taurus. Mercury 25 deg Taurus.

He has 4 major planets in the earth signs. He is attracted to earth signs. To be compatible for a relationship/marriage, the earth sign person needs to have two or more planets in air.

Amber has 1, Moon in Libra.

Continued....
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Reply #53 posted 05/28/16 2:09pm

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Dalia11 said:

I looked up Johns chart and her planets. His Rising sign is Leo. Aquarius is a good sign for him to marry. His Sun is 18 deg Gemini, with a Libra sub-influence. His Moon is in 13 deg Capricorn. His Mars is in 3 deg Virgo. His Venus is in 26 deg Taurus. Mercury 25 deg Taurus. He has 4 major planets in the earth signs. He is attracted to earth signs. To be compatible for a relationship/marriage, the earth sign person needs to have two or more planets in air. Amber has 1, Moon in Libra. Continued....



Thanks! So you found the information?

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Reply #54 posted 05/28/16 3:32pm

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dJJ said:

I was just thinking about the horrific impact this openly victim blaming has.

I think she sets a great example. However, the negative reactions also will impact other women who are abused. They notice the response Amber gets and that is not exactly supportive. Didn't the media learn nothing of the Bill Cosby case? No matter how charming or pretty the abuser is, he should be hold responsible.

Again, how do you know that she's in fact a victim? An accusation doesn't automatically mean that a person is a victim. There's been many cases of fabricated abuse. It's unfortunate as it makes those who have been in truly abusive situations lives more difficult, but fabricated abuse stories do exist and people have done this. I think the correlation between Mr. Depp's situation and Mr. Cosby's is an unfair comparison and two completely different situations entirely. Although he seems guilty enough, it has to be pointed out that Mr. Cosby has not been convicted of anything...yet. Johnny Depp isn't accused of drugging other women and sexually taking advantage of them, he is only being accused of domestic abuse.




Not true accusations happen rarely. It gets a lot of attention in the news, that is why people think it is common. Surely, there needs to be more clarity, but I don't think she hit herself in order to make that photo.

so, changes that she made it up, are less likely that she is telling the truth. She has proof in the picture.

Depp has a history of physical outbursts.

So, why do so many here jump to the conclusion she is the fraudulent person in this case?

I'm responding to the general opinion of blaming her. So, that you are acusing me of an preliminary opinion is not a very good argument.

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Reply #55 posted 05/28/16 6:50pm

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The thing is, she married him. If he was abusive to her before they got married, she should have left him when they were dating - Not Marry Him! And I am sure she read/heard about his rash past behavior. If he was abusive to her that is wrong. Anyway, she got a restraining order and will get divorced, if they didn't already.
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Reply #56 posted 05/28/16 7:01pm

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The thing is, she married him. If he was abusive to her before they got married, she should have left him when they were dating - Not Marry Him! And I am sure she read/heard about his rash past behavior. If he was abusive to her that is wrong. Anyway, she got a restraining order and will get divorced, if they didn't already.


He left Vanessa for her........... big mistake.

Maybe he realizes he had it good with Vanessa. They were common law and raising their kids Jack and Lilly.

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Reply #57 posted 05/28/16 8:06pm

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Dalia11 said:

The thing is, she married him. If he was abusive to her before they got married, she should have left him when they were dating - Not Marry Him! And I am sure she read/heard about his rash past behavior. If he was abusive to her that is wrong. Anyway, she got a restraining order and will get divorced, if they didn't already.


He left Vanessa for her........... big mistake.

Maybe he realizes he had it good with Vanessa. They were common law and raising their kids Jack and Lilly.

Yuuup big mistake indeed, because now some people believe he's a controlling serial woman beater, while others believe she's a conniving golddigger who used Johnny to advance her "career". A big ol' mess whofarted if u ask me.

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Reply #58 posted 05/28/16 10:19pm

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Maybe you should educate yourself a bit more about how abuse works, before you blame the victim. Of course she thought he would change. Of course she told herself it would get better.

That is how it works. The abuser will execute his power over the abused not only by means of physical aggression. Also with psychological abuse. That goes hand in hand.


What makes you defend him and blame her?







morningsong said:


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More like nuclear, in those court docs she claims that abuse has been going on for 4 years and she has video evidence. This reminds of the Mel Gibson drama where left his wife of 30 yrs for his mistress, who later accused him of abuse, and leaked all those phones messages (Mel had a history of being bipolar and an alcoholic). She ended up with alot of money and his reputation was in ruins (even though he got some work eg. The Beaver, Expendables 3). My friend still finds the timing of this suspect, and although ALL DV cases should be taken very seriously, their are some ppl out there who would fake DV and use it as a weapon against their partner for money etc. I'm just sad and hope for the best I really do.


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Doesn't seem like they've been together for over 4 years. He was being abusive before they got married? Why get married? Um, so she was documenting abuse before they got married, married im, documented more abuse, then gets a divorce requesting xyz amounts in spousal support after less than 1.5 yrs of marriage? I don't like how that sounds.




Now how do you know what I'm educated in? Talk about someone making assumptions. This mess needs some questions asked. Period. That's so silly to bully people out of asking questions.
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Reply #59 posted 05/29/16 1:26am

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I've always been a big fan of his - his best work can be seen in his more obscure films - Dead Man, The Libertine, Ed Wood. He was a wild child, then seemed to settle for a good many years when he was with VP and had his kids. In interveiws he came across as being likeable, quirky and shy. However in recent times I have strongly suspected he has serious alcohol/substance issues. I'll admit, I've never liked Heard and took a stereotypical viewpoint that he was having a midlife crisis and dumped his long term partner for a younger model. However, I would never condone violence towards anyone, he has a lot of questions to answer and the sooner he does so the better.

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