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Thread started 04/01/16 5:54pm

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Wrestlemania 32 discussion/Return of Bill Goldberg??!!

Who's ready for wrestlemania 32 this Sunday ? I am only interested in the Shane McMahon vs undertaker .if Shane wins he gets control of WWE and the current wwe product becomes great again ! If undertaker loses...it will be his last wrestlemania .I'm even more excited now that I hear Goldberg might be returning at wrestlemania to help Shane beat undertaker. Goldberg hasn't been in WWE since 2004 and he was my favorite wrestler .here is the rumored spoiler linkCheck this out http://www.ewrestlingnews...nside-more anybodyelse ready for wrestlemania?
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Reply #1 posted 04/01/16 9:44pm

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The NXT show tonight was all I've been looking forward to. Pretty darn good, I must say. I will watch WM though...I just dont have high expectations.

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Reply #2 posted 04/02/16 3:40am

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I used to love the old WWF. I started watching around 1994, after I started school and my friend convinced me to watch it. The things 4 year olds do for friendship... LOL. I stopped watching around 2002 after all my favourites left, but in recent years I've started watching it again on and off but it's not as good as it used to be. I always watch the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania though so I'll he watching on Sunday night.

I hadn't heard that rumour about Goldberg but I hope it's true. They need to find some way for Shane to win because they've basically admitted on Raw a few weeks ago that it's not good anymore, hence why Shane wants control. If Undertaker wins, then they're just going to continue with the same things that are turning people off. But even in the crazy world of WWE, there's no way Shane could win without some serious shenanigans.

I know Roman Reigns gets booed a lot but I like him. I like HHH as well though so I don't mind who wins that one. I'd like to see The Rock cost Reigns the belt though, setting up a match for next year's event. They could use that year to turn Roman into a completely villainous bastard.

Brock Lesnar will win but I'd say Dean Ambrose will put up a good fight.

I'm not sure who else is on but I know there's a big battle royal so I'd guess one of the NXT guys will win. Maybe my compatriot, Finn Balor? I've never seen him in real life but he looks cool in WWE 2K16.
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^ I love your ideas! A Roman reigns vs the rock match would be awesome.also ,John cena is cleared to return so maybe he will do so at wrestlemania.Yeah they did admit that the current wwe product sux now.I hope Shane wins cuz this "authority" storyline has run its course .do u collect wwe DVDs?
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Reply #4 posted 04/02/16 8:45am

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^ I love your ideas! A Roman reigns vs the rock match would be awesome.also ,John cena is cleared to return so maybe he will do so at wrestlemania.Yeah they did admit that the current wwe product sux now.I hope Shane wins cuz this "authority" storyline has run its course .do u collect wwe DVDs?
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I have loads of videos that used to belong to my brother but he doesn't have a VHS player do he gave them to me. I have a few DVDs but none of specific events. I have the Bret Hart and Mr. Perfect ones. I was going to get the Owen Hart one but I couldn't find it anywhere.

I'm not that familiar with John Cena. I know who he is, obviously, but I think I've only seen about 5 of his matches in full. I have seen A LOT of his promos though. There's something about his face that irks me. I'd like to see him dress different when he comes back. The shorts and sneakers don't do him any favours.

The whole authority thing is weird. They've been doing that since Stone Cold Steve Austin. And they did it better back then. Its not a shock anymore to see a wrestler beat up the boss. Back when I was young (that makes me sound old),the authority figure was rarely on air. So the odd time you seen something like Vader attack Gorilla Monsoon it was a big deal.
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Reply #5 posted 04/02/16 1:06pm

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^ I love your ideas! A Roman reigns vs the rock match would be awesome.also ,John cena is cleared to return so maybe he will do so at wrestlemania.Yeah they did admit that the current wwe product sux now.I hope Shane wins cuz this "authority" storyline has run its course .do u collect wwe DVDs? [Edited 4/2/16 5:02am] [Edited 4/2/16 5:05am]

My prediction: John Cena interferes in Undertaker/Shane, causing Shane to win. Cena will claim he did it to destroy the authority, and it will set up Cena/Undertaker at WM 33 next year.

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Reply #6 posted 04/02/16 3:41pm

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breakdown2k14 said:


^ I love your ideas! A Roman reigns vs the rock match would be awesome.also ,John cena is cleared to return so maybe he will do so at wrestlemania.Yeah they did admit that the current wwe product sux now.I hope Shane wins cuz this "authority" storyline has run its course .do u collect wwe DVDs? [Edited 4/2/16 5:02am] [Edited 4/2/16 5:05am]

My prediction: John Cena interferes in Undertaker/Shane, causing Shane to win. Cena will claim he did it to destroy the authority, and it will set up Cena/Undertaker at WM 33 next year.



I think you're right but I'm still hoping for a Finn Balor appearance.
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Reply #7 posted 04/02/16 4:51pm

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A Goldberg return would be better and more shocking than a john cena return though .
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Reply #8 posted 04/03/16 11:00am

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The NXT show tonight was all I've been looking forward to. Pretty darn good, I must say. I will watch WM though...I just dont have high expectations.



Just watched the NXT Dallas event and I have a few questions. Are all NXT events that good? Why are WWE so keen on having John Cena, Sheamus, Big Show etc front and centre at every Raw and Smackdown when they have people like Finn Balor, Sami Zayn and that Nakamura guy? How long will it be before those guys are on the main roster? Do you think it was a mistake by WWE to put on that NXT show at the same weekend as wrestlemania, seeing as their biggest event of the year is going to be made to look pretty weak in comparison.
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Reply #9 posted 04/03/16 11:04am

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A Goldberg return would be better and more shocking than a john cena return though .


I would like to see Goldberg but I'd rather it be Finn Balor, complete with Demon paint, come in and cost Undertaker the match, setting up a match between them at next year's Wrestlemania. It would be a great way for Undertaker to retire, getting beaten by a possible future champion.
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Reply #10 posted 04/03/16 11:57am

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EmmaMcG said:

UncleJam said:

The NXT show tonight was all I've been looking forward to. Pretty darn good, I must say. I will watch WM though...I just dont have high expectations.

Just watched the NXT Dallas event and I have a few questions. Are all NXT events that good? Why are WWE so keen on having John Cena, Sheamus, Big Show etc front and centre at every Raw and Smackdown when they have people like Finn Balor, Sami Zayn and that Nakamura guy? How long will it be before those guys are on the main roster? Do you think it was a mistake by WWE to put on that NXT show at the same weekend as wrestlemania, seeing as their biggest event of the year is going to be made to look pretty weak in comparison.

Most of the NXT specials (especially the last two or three) have been FANTASTIC. NXT is run by HHH and William Regal, Raw/Smackdown still run by Vince McMahon (Stephanie heads creative, but Vince has final say on everything). NXT is a sign of what the future of WWE will look like, once Vince retires and HHH and Stephanie take over completely. In other words, THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT. Easiest way to explain...Vince believes that only wrestlers that he "creates" can get over...and NXT shows that all the wrestlers from the indy scene (CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, Samoa Joe, Austin Aries) are ten times as over as Vince's creations (Roman Reigns, Ryback, etc). As for WM...the entire thing is booked wrong if you ask me, but again...Vince just doesnt "believe" in these indy internet faves, he honestly believes that Roman Reigns can be the face of wrestling. If Reigns doesnt turn heel tonight or tomorrow, disbelief. Reigns is definitely going to win the title tonight, and I cant wait to hear the fans go ballistic.

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Reply #11 posted 04/03/16 1:14pm

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UncleJam said:



EmmaMcG said:


UncleJam said:

The NXT show tonight was all I've been looking forward to. Pretty darn good, I must say. I will watch WM though...I just dont have high expectations.



Just watched the NXT Dallas event and I have a few questions. Are all NXT events that good? Why are WWE so keen on having John Cena, Sheamus, Big Show etc front and centre at every Raw and Smackdown when they have people like Finn Balor, Sami Zayn and that Nakamura guy? How long will it be before those guys are on the main roster? Do you think it was a mistake by WWE to put on that NXT show at the same weekend as wrestlemania, seeing as their biggest event of the year is going to be made to look pretty weak in comparison.

Most of the NXT specials (especially the last two or three) have been FANTASTIC. NXT is run by HHH and William Regal, Raw/Smackdown still run by Vince McMahon (Stephanie heads creative, but Vince has final say on everything). NXT is a sign of what the future of WWE will look like, once Vince retires and HHH and Stephanie take over completely. In other words, THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT. Easiest way to explain...Vince believes that only wrestlers that he "creates" can get over...and NXT shows that all the wrestlers from the indy scene (CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens, Samoa Joe, Austin Aries) are ten times as over as Vince's creations (Roman Reigns, Ryback, etc). As for WM...the entire thing is booked wrong if you ask me, but again...Vince just doesnt "believe" in these indy internet faves, he honestly believes that Roman Reigns can be the face of wrestling. If Reigns doesnt turn heel tonight or tomorrow, disbelief. Reigns is definitely going to win the title tonight, and I cant wait to hear the fans go ballistic.



I think Roman Reigns turning heel is a story that writes itself. As long as they don't turn him into one of those villains that has to resort to cheating to win. Turn him bad, but keep having him beat all his opponents. Then, when Seth Rollins comes back, have him as a good guy who beats Reigns for the belt at Summerslam, leading to a triple threat match at next year's Wrestlemania with all 3 Shield guys. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Reigns could be a fan favourite in years to come, but the WWE seems to be sabotaging him by turning him into another John Cena type character.
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Reply #12 posted 04/03/16 1:55pm

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ESPN's Sportcenter was broadcast from the site of Wrestlemania. This is one of the Seven Signs of the Apocalypse.

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Reply #13 posted 04/03/16 2:37pm

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ESPN's Sportcenter was broadcast from the site of Wrestlemania. This is one of the Seven Signs of the Apocalypse.

biggrin I still cant believe ESPN does a weekly WWE segment now. UNTHINKABLE years ago.

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Reply #14 posted 04/03/16 11:48pm

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Well undertaker beat Shane and roman defeated triple h to become new world champion .I'm dissapointed Goldberg didn't return but maybe he will return on RAW tonight .There's usually always a return on the night after wrestlemania.But there were some returns at mania tonight .Stone Cold,Shawn michaels,mick Foley ,the rock ,and John cena all returned at wrestlemania ! RAW should be good tonight
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Reply #15 posted 04/04/16 6:51am

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Well undertaker beat Shane and roman defeated triple h to become new world champion .I'm dissapointed Goldberg didn't return but maybe he will return on RAW tonight .There's usually always a return on the night after wrestlemania.But there were some returns at mania tonight .Stone Cold,Shawn michaels,mick Foley ,the rock ,and John cena all returned at wrestlemania ! RAW should be good tonight


I'm interested to see how they move forward with things after Shane losing. I mean, they admitted that WWE is not as good as it used to be, which is why Shane wanted control. But if everything is going to stay the same, then what was the point if them acknowledging that WWE is not that good anymore? If they know it's bad, why not try to make it better? Call up some more NXT guys and don't ruin them like they did with Adrian Neville, Tyler Breeze, Cesaro etc. Stop pushing people who can't wrestle. Please God get rid of Michael Cole. He has to be the worst commentator in any sport/wrestling show in history. And when Michael Cole goes, have him take Bradshaw with him.
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As good as NXT is, it's really a vanity project for Hunter. If Vince got involved it would soon destroy people's opinions because he's a guy who's stuck in the past in terms of his direction for the WWE. Going PG gets a ton of criticism but apart from the Attitude Era their biggest boom period was during when it was PG with Hulk, Macho, Warrior and countless others. Then everybody even guys who were low on the card were stars like Tito Santana, Rick Martel et AL. Now the only real stars they have are John Cena and The Undertaker. Triple H is not really an active wrestler, nor is Brock and The Rock only makes occasional appearances. I think even if they bring Finn up from NXT he'd be lost in the shuffle. Look at AJ Styles he had tons of hype coming in now he's stuck in the midcard. There's been a ton of NXT failures on the main roster Neville, Ascension, Adam Rose, Dolph's brother Tyler Breeze, the Wyatts, Emma, the list goes on. Only really Charlotte has broken out, Sasha might get there, but that's a poor turn around from the supposed stars of the future. apparently Bayley wants to stay in NXT because she's seen the track record of the wrestlers tanking when called up to the major league.

NXT has two big Japanese stars too Kenta and Shinsuke Nakamura but outside of the Great Muta and Great Kabuki there hasn't really been a big Japanese pro wrestler in the WWE and Muta and Kabuki to my knowledge have never wrestled for the WWE they worked on the territories and in the NWA & WCW. So there is a ton of talent there but no real big star in the making like Stone cold, The Rock and Hulk Hogan. If Roman Reigns had just a small percentage of his cousin The Rocks charimsa he'd be a star but the fans seem to hate him because he's Vince McMahons chosen one. Outside of Reigns though their other options are thin on the ground. Ambrose profile ismtoo damaged because he keeps losing. Rollins tanked as champion. Cenas been and done it all. Taker will retire soon, Styles isn't ready, Bryan is retired, Owens isn't WWE cookie cutter material, Orton's been and done it too, Kane's at the tail end of his career too, same as Show and Mark Henry. Sheamus hasn't really broke out and connected with the fans. Barrett's midcard at best, Rusev would have been champ in the 80s WWF or a top heel but not now. So yea, when the options are so limited they have to go with Roman. I didn't include Brock as I read his contract is short term and besides he's too one dimensional now and has run rough shot over the roster. I'd rather see him back in the UFC. If he was younger and in better health I would bring Kurt Angle back in because he has the skills and also can be entertaining if given a good storyline.

Maybe WWE needs to rethink their star making machine and instead of signing back Jericho and others for a short term boost invest more time in finding unique charismatic talent with big personalities. But 10 years down the line they could be in trouble and a broken down Cena can't go on further unless he becomes like the Bionic Man lol
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Reply #17 posted 04/04/16 11:42am

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As good as NXT is, it's really a vanity project for Hunter. If Vince got involved it would soon destroy people's opinions because he's a guy who's stuck in the past in terms of his direction for the WWE. Going PG gets a ton of criticism but apart from the Attitude Era their biggest boom period was during when it was PG with Hulk, Macho, Warrior and countless others. Then everybody even guys who were low on the card were stars like Tito Santana, Rick Martel et AL. Now the only real stars they have are John Cena and The Undertaker. Triple H is not really an active wrestler, nor is Brock and The Rock only makes occasional appearances. I think even if they bring Finn up from NXT he'd be lost in the shuffle. Look at AJ Styles he had tons of hype coming in now he's stuck in the midcard. There's been a ton of NXT failures on the main roster Neville, Ascension, Adam Rose, Dolph's brother Tyler Breeze, the Wyatts, Emma, the list goes on. Only really Charlotte has broken out, Sasha might get there, but that's a poor turn around from the supposed stars of the future. apparently Bayley wants to stay in NXT because she's seen the track record of the wrestlers tanking when called up to the major league.

NXT has two big Japanese stars too Kenta and Shinsuke Nakamura but outside of the Great Muta and Great Kabuki there hasn't really been a big Japanese pro wrestler in the WWE and Muta and Kabuki to my knowledge have never wrestled for the WWE they worked on the territories and in the NWA & WCW. So there is a ton of talent there but no real big star in the making like Stone cold, The Rock and Hulk Hogan. If Roman Reigns had just a small percentage of his cousin The Rocks charimsa he'd be a star but the fans seem to hate him because he's Vince McMahons chosen one. Outside of Reigns though their other options are thin on the ground. Ambrose profile ismtoo damaged because he keeps losing. Rollins tanked as champion. Cenas been and done it all. Taker will retire soon, Styles isn't ready, Bryan is retired, Owens isn't WWE cookie cutter material, Orton's been and done it too, Kane's at the tail end of his career too, same as Show and Mark Henry. Sheamus hasn't really broke out and connected with the fans. Barrett's midcard at best, Rusev would have been champ in the 80s WWF or a top heel but not now. So yea, when the options are so limited they have to go with Roman. I didn't include Brock as I read his contract is short term and besides he's too one dimensional now and has run rough shot over the roster. I'd rather see him back in the UFC. If he was younger and in better health I would bring Kurt Angle back in because he has the skills and also can be entertaining if given a good storyline.

Maybe WWE needs to rethink their star making machine and instead of signing back Jericho and others for a short term boost invest more time in finding unique charismatic talent with big personalities. But 10 years down the line they could be in trouble and a broken down Cena can't go on further unless he becomes like the Bionic Man lol
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My favourite era was the new generation era of the mid 90's. Maybe it's because that's when I started watching it but looking back, it still holds up well today. I loved the Stone Cold Steve Austin of the attitude era but for me, he doesn't compare to the likes of Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Shawn Michaels, Razor Ramon etc. I've been looking at a lot of NXT shows this weekend and as far as I can see, there's far more talent on there than the main roster. Its weird how the likes of Neville and Adam Rose are portrayed on Raw. WWE needs to fire it's creative team. The main event of wrestlemania this year was Triple H and Roman Reigns. I don't hate Reigns but at best, he should be going for the US title. Triple H should have retired years ago. I think Nakamura and Sami Zayn is a strong contender for match of the year and if WWE had any interest in putting on a show that would ENTERTAIN it's fans, they'd call up Nakamura and have him beat Reigns tonight on Raw, then feed with Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens and AJ Styles for the world title.
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Reply #18 posted 04/04/16 2:40pm

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Is it weird that I thought Stephanie looked really sexy at Wrestlemania?
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Is it weird that I thought Stephanie looked really sexy at Wrestlemania?

No not at all.she's an attractive woman .But she can make some pretty unattractive faces sometimes when shes on the microphone.I miss Nikki Bella being on RAW every week though
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As good as NXT is, it's really a vanity project for Hunter. If Vince got involved it would soon destroy people's opinions because he's a guy who's stuck in the past in terms of his direction for the WWE. Going PG gets a ton of criticism but apart from the Attitude Era their biggest boom period was during when it was PG with Hulk, Macho, Warrior and countless others. Then everybody even guys who were low on the card were stars like Tito Santana, Rick Martel et AL. Now the only real stars they have are John Cena and The Undertaker. Triple H is not really an active wrestler, nor is Brock and The Rock only makes occasional appearances. I think even if they bring Finn up from NXT he'd be lost in the shuffle. Look at AJ Styles he had tons of hype coming in now he's stuck in the midcard. There's been a ton of NXT failures on the main roster Neville, Ascension, Adam Rose, Dolph's brother Tyler Breeze, the Wyatts, Emma, the list goes on. Only really Charlotte has broken out, Sasha might get there, but that's a poor turn around from the supposed stars of the future. apparently Bayley wants to stay in NXT because she's seen the track record of the wrestlers tanking when called up to the major league. NXT has two big Japanese stars too Kenta and Shinsuke Nakamura but outside of the Great Muta and Great Kabuki there hasn't really been a big Japanese pro wrestler in the WWE and Muta and Kabuki to my knowledge have never wrestled for the WWE they worked on the territories and in the NWA & WCW. So there is a ton of talent there but no real big star in the making like Stone cold, The Rock and Hulk Hogan. If Roman Reigns had just a small percentage of his cousin The Rocks charimsa he'd be a star but the fans seem to hate him because he's Vince McMahons chosen one. Outside of Reigns though their other options are thin on the ground. Ambrose profile ismtoo damaged because he keeps losing. Rollins tanked as champion. Cenas been and done it all. Taker will retire soon, Styles isn't ready, Bryan is retired, Owens isn't WWE cookie cutter material, Orton's been and done it too, Kane's at the tail end of his career too, same as Show and Mark Henry. Sheamus hasn't really broke out and connected with the fans. Barrett's midcard at best, Rusev would have been champ in the 80s WWF or a top heel but not now. So yea, when the options are so limited they have to go with Roman. I didn't include Brock as I read his contract is short term and besides he's too one dimensional now and has run rough shot over the roster. I'd rather see him back in the UFC. If he was younger and in better health I would bring Kurt Angle back in because he has the skills and also can be entertaining if given a good storyline. Maybe WWE needs to rethink their star making machine and instead of signing back Jericho and others for a short term boost invest more time in finding unique charismatic talent with big personalities. But 10 years down the line they could be in trouble and a broken down Cena can't go on further unless he becomes like the Bionic Man lol [Edited 4/4/16 11:28am]

Very good points here, but the main reason these NXT stars seem to fail on the main roster is because they are not being used properly. You know why Rollins is hurt? Because you have him working with Kane, and there styles dont match at all. Not that they can never work together, but that shouldnt be his main opponent night in and night out, on house shows, TV and PPV alike. You mentioned AJ Styles...boy did WWE drop the ball with that one. When Styles arrived, the fans were RABID for him. If you ask me, he should have won the WWE title at the Royal Rumble on his debut night; doesnt mean he has to hold the title and main event WM, but can you imagine the shockwaves that would have sent thru the industry? The ratings boost on Raw the next night? Instead you pair him with Jericho (which has actually been a good rivalry, but there was a definiite opportunity for more). But Vince will probably NEVER put the title on AJ, simply because that would be admitting that TNA has WWE caliber workers, and Vince will never go for that. As for Nakamura...his final New Japan match was Jan 4 at the Tokyo Dome...vs. AJ Styles. They absolutely stole the show. Why on earth would you send Nakamura (one of the top 5 workers in the WORLD) to NXT for "seasoning"? You could have very easily used still photos from their Jan 4 matchup to set up Nakamura's debut...at WM vs. AJ Styles. They would have torn the friggin house down! Same with KENTA...you send him to NXT to work against the Ascension? Have they not seen the videos of the NOAH and ROH matches between KENTA and Daniel Bryan? KENTA should have show up on Raw and immediately gone after Bryan...he would have been made overnight, simply because of his in-ring skills. Instead, working with big, clodding heavyweights, he's injured. I could go on and on but I think you're with me...the WWE "creative" staff is an absolute joke...they need a BOOKER to do it the right way.

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My favourite era was the new generation era of the mid 90's. Maybe it's because that's when I started watching it but looking back, it still holds up well today. I loved the Stone Cold Steve Austin of the attitude era but for me, he doesn't compare to the likes of Bret Hart, Owen Hart, Shawn Michaels, Razor Ramon etc. I've been looking at a lot of NXT shows this weekend and as far as I can see, there's far more talent on there than the main roster. Its weird how the likes of Neville and Adam Rose are portrayed on Raw. WWE needs to fire it's creative team. The main event of wrestlemania this year was Triple H and Roman Reigns. I don't hate Reigns but at best, he should be going for the US title. Triple H should have retired years ago. I think Nakamura and Sami Zayn is a strong contender for match of the year and if WWE had any interest in putting on a show that would ENTERTAIN it's fans, they'd call up Nakamura and have him beat Reigns tonight on Raw, then feed with Sami Zayn, Kevin Owens and AJ Styles for the world title.


The new generation WWF was great and it was really created out of necessity as Vince had to deal with losing Hulk, Macho and friends to WCW. Plus there was the steroid trial so McMahon had to focus on smaller less muscular guys too. I think there was some misteps because there was still some over the top characters with cartoony gimmicks like Duke the Dumpster, Isàac Yankem et AL. One of the unsung stars of the era although he wasn't around too long was Bob Backlund he had a great match with Bret and you had Owen throw the towel in a moment which is memorable because it seemed that Owen was genuinely concerned about Bret in the crossface chicken wing. I think it's one of the Survivor Series - 94 I think. Plus you have the Razor and HBK ladder matches which standup among any matches today. I think also it was the beginning of a shift of focus on more on the wrestling matches being more fast paced. Although my favorite match which still is great today is Steamboat vs Savage WrestleMania III.

As for NXT that has little or no Vince involvement so the wrestlers can go all out and focus on putting on great matches. Although there even might be a shift there with them having Eva who although she tries is kinda the antithesis to the NXT ethos. NXT is essentially a Ring of Honor 2.0 and I think they have a ton of talent on their roster too. It's just that on a smaller scale some really shined in that environment like Emma did with her dance and Emmarisms. Adam Rose and the Rosebuds, Neville, Ascension among others were all big deals in NXT same with Tyler Breeze yet something isn't clicking when they get called up. I don't know why that really is. Maybe because they are on a smaller stage it's easier for them to get the fans support and their weaknesses are better hidden because NXT apart from the live shows are pretaped.

Nakamura coming out to beat Roman for the belt would a good scenario but I don't know if Shinsuke is really going to break out of the NXT bubble. Meaning he has all the talent needed yet WWE creative will give him a Japanese stereotypical gimmick if he's called up to the main roster. I think if they allowed him to be the King of Strong Style he was in New Japan he'd be one of the most charismatic wrestlers they have. He also bases his character on both Freddie Mercury and Michael Jackson so that's something which is something creative could work with if they are smart. Do vignettes of him meeting some of the Jackson family or with members of Queen or something to solidify his star potential. I mean Sasha's cousin is Snoop and they could use that a lot more than they have done by getting him involved in making Sasha a mainstream star. I also think WWE creative right now are anything but. Just let Hunter and Paul E run things and have minimal Vince involvement. For non wrestling fans there needs to be something which hooks them in as viewers. Right now nothing in the show would make a non fan want to tune in apart from maybe an appearance from The Rock.

They really need another new generation and put a lid on the big guy cookie cutter types like Roman Reigns. Baron Corbin is someone whos almost the same type of character when he debuted on Raw my first thought was he looks and acts just like Reigns. WWE needs more colourful personalities and one guy who might break out as a star is Enzo but again once creative gets their hooks in him he'll play up the New Jersey accent and persona to the max and make him unbearable. Really there needs to be more ad-libbing on the mic since guys like Ric Flair, Dusty, Mick Foley, The Rock, Macho,JaKe and others helped talk the fans into the arena and made them tune in because they hyped up their matches. Right now it's too scripted and by the numbers once they change things up and let everyone do their own thing and be more natural instead of robotic then I think the future will be a lot brighter than it is now. Roman isn't necessarily bad, but they don't really know what to do with him or what his real character is. Should he be the goofy good guy or the smirking bad guy. Right now I'd go for the bad guy and put him with Paul Heyman and let him do what he has done for Brock where he puts over how strong, tough and bad he is and you just get Roman to say Believe That and you put over his credentials without him having to recite scripted over long interviews and cheesy buzzwords.
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Reply #22 posted 04/05/16 12:05pm

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Very good points here, but the main reason these NXT stars seem to fail on the main roster is because they are not being used properly. You know why Rollins is hurt? Because you have him working with Kane, and there styles dont match at all. Not that they can never work together, but that shouldnt be his main opponent night in and night out, on house shows, TV and PPV alike. You mentioned AJ Styles...boy did WWE drop the ball with that one. When Styles arrived, the fans were RABID for him. If you ask me, he should have won the WWE title at the Royal Rumble on his debut night; doesnt mean he has to hold the title and main event WM, but can you imagine the shockwaves that would have sent thru the industry? The ratings boost on Raw the next night? Instead you pair him with Jericho (which has actually been a good rivalry, but there was a definiite opportunity for more). But Vince will probably NEVER put the title on AJ, simply because that would be admitting that TNA has WWE caliber workers, and Vince will never go for that. As for Nakamura...his final New Japan match was Jan 4 at the Tokyo Dome...vs. AJ Styles. They absolutely stole the show. Why on earth would you send Nakamura (one of the top 5 workers in the WORLD) to NXT for "seasoning"? You could have very easily used still photos from their Jan 4 matchup to set up Nakamura's debut...at WM vs. AJ Styles. They would have torn the friggin house down! Same with KENTA...you send him to NXT to work against the Ascension? Have they not seen the videos of the NOAH and ROH matches between KENTA and Daniel Bryan? KENTA should have show up on Raw and immediately gone after Bryan...he would have been made overnight, simply because of his in-ring skills. Instead, working with big, clodding heavyweights, he's injured. I could go on and on but I think you're with me...the WWE "creative" staff is an absolute joke...they need a BOOKER to do it the right way.

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NXT is really a televised developmental territory. It was formerly FCW and headed up by the late great Dusty Rhodes. The goal of NxT is to create new stars and repackage those who have failed on the main roster. Case in point Emma she was a big deal in NXT with her entrance and the Emma named moves but once on Raw they put her with Santino and JBL was making snide sarcastic comments about her on commentary. Now they've sent her back down and she's a heel. Adam Rose had a ton of fanfare yet soon after he tanked. I don't think it's necessarily creative doesn't know what to do with them. It's that their gimmicks work on a smaller stage. Like a Public Enemy in ECW they were super over there yet they never did much in WCW and tanked in the WWE.

I've watched AJ since the start really when he debuted in WCW and then in TNA. They dropped the ball big time not signing him again and their loss is WWEs gain. I wouldn't have put the belt on him right away Id let the fans decide if they want him to be the number one guy. One thing nowadays is that you can't tell them whomto like or whom to boo. The over pushing of Reigns is why the fans hate him. Remember they hated the baby face Rocky Maivia until he joined the NOD and let him become The Rock and then create one of their biggest ever stars.

I don't think Roman will be the new Rock but turning him heel and letting him become a heel will create a night and day change to his gimmick. Right now it's stale and it's uncool. The Shield Era Reigns who was a man of few words got over because he wasn't trying to be the next John Cena. Speaking of Cena he gets a ton of heat but the series of US title matches he had changed a lot of folks opinions. I've never disliked Cena he's cheesy sure but he's always there as a go too guy where things are tanking and is a great ambassador for WWE with the make a wish foundation work he does.

Unless they push him 110% correctly I have reservations over the booking of Nakamura.he could easily break out as a huge star if they do it right but I doubt we'll see a NJPW level match between Nak and AJ on the main roster although they are slowly moving away from the more traditional WE in ring style. In NXT Shinsuke Nakamura will shine and he can work a style similar to his New Japan strong style. I'd like to see Styles, Finn, Gallows and Anderson form the Bullet Club in the WWE and become the new Four Horsemen style faction who could hold all the belts and be the dominating force in the WWE.

Going back to the injuries you've mentioned it's a combination of the inring style, the number of matches they are having and pre existing injuries that has Seth and Kenta on the inactive roster. Kenta was from Pro Wrestling NOAH and the Puroresu style is known for being hard hitting. I mean look at the matches Kobashi, Misawa, Hansen, Vader had in All Japan. So when you're not really pulling your punches you will get a ton of injuries. Plus if you work a faster paced style you can easily get injured. Look at the recent sad passing of the great Hayabusa he slipped doing an Moonsault off the ropes and landed on his head paralysing himself from the neck down. Despite the dire prognosis he managed to get fit enough to be able to get into the ring again and walk a few steps with a cane. There's a video of him on YouTube and it's hard to not watch it without getting emotional. Hayabusa is just one example, there's also Droz and wrestlers like Edge, Stone cold, Daniel Bryan who have had to retire due to injury. Shawn Michaels had to retire for a few years in the late 90s due to a chronic back pain injury too. So when they are working a strong style lite style of wrestling is why they are filling up the inactive roster. Tyson Kidd almost become paralysed against Samoa Joe and in all likelihood has a very long road back into the WWE. I'll be surprised if he wrestles again and considering Bryan had to retire I'm sure doctors would advise Kidd to stay out of the ring.
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