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Thread started 07/07/15 8:20pm

Superfan1984

Is Professor Griff crazy? Or speaking the truth?

Someone at work told me to watch some of his videos on Youtube about the Illuminati and I have been. He doesn't sound crazy to me, in fact he seems to make a lot of sense. Thoughts?
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Reply #1 posted 07/08/15 3:54am

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He´s spewed so much bullshit, racist, antisemitic and homophobic stuff over the years that the little bit of real info he shares does not really make him credible anymore. I´d take everything he says with a grain of salt but I can´t deny that some of his videos are entertaining or make you look up things and do some research.

But I can´t take him very seriously.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #2 posted 07/08/15 7:19am

Superfan1984

Oh wow- I didn't hear any homophobic or racist stuff to the videos I listened to but I only listened to two of them. hmmm... I just wonder why he chose to take a platform on all this stuff.
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Reply #3 posted 07/08/15 8:22am

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Superfan1984 said:

Oh wow- I didn't hear any homophobic or racist stuff to the videos I listened to but I only listened to two of them. hmmm... I just wonder why he chose to take a platform on all this stuff.

Well, he WAS the "Minister of Information" when he was still with PE. He´s probably always had a curious and investigative side to him. Many of PE´s lyrics mentioned or quoted Farrakhan and the teachings of the NOI, so it doesn´t surprise me to hear that kind of content and some conspiracy stuff in his videos.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #4 posted 07/08/15 9:46am

Superfan1984

True. But I would say some of it is so "out there" that it's pretty brave of him to talk about it. I wonder how many celebrities feel the same way but keep their mouths shut.
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Reply #5 posted 07/08/15 6:20pm

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Griff is not crazy. He's a little out there, but most of what he says is right on.

Make it so, Number One...
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Reply #6 posted 07/08/15 7:23pm

RJOrion

Griff has BEEN speaking the truth...for years now

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Reply #7 posted 07/08/15 7:37pm

Superfan1984

What's really going on in Hollywood? In this world? More and more celebrities are coming out and saying some crazy stuff! I'm not up on all this but a guy I work with is and he's had me to watch some things and he's telling me stuff that's really blowing my mind.
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Reply #8 posted 07/09/15 8:16am

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He has a show called NMEMINDZ on blogtalk radio.
He aint crazy, maybe a little hardcore at times, don't suffer fools gladly...all no doubt due to decades of investigating/reading etc etc
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #9 posted 07/09/15 8:56am

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Some interesting points made about 'conspiracy theory's' in Robert Anton Wilson's book 'Everything is under control'
There is a free pdf online.

I would post the introduction but can't on my cell.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #10 posted 07/09/15 11:39am

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NinaB said:

Some interesting points made about 'conspiracy theory's' in Robert Anton Wilson's book 'Everything is under control' There is a free pdf online. I would post the introduction but can't on my cell.

I´ve learned a lot from Uncle Bob. Great to see some appreciation for him.

But Everything Is Under Control is not a book that he really liked. He once said that of all the books he wrote, that one was the one he least liked because the whole process (and the result) were a rushed mess, keep in mind that his wife was very ill back then and died. I have most of his books, the non-fiction ones are still an interesting read. Too bad he´s dead now, I would´ve loved to see what he would write today.

" I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?"
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Reply #11 posted 07/09/15 12:00pm

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I used to listen to Prof. Griff, but the more I started listening to him, he became a little too militant with what he wanted to say, instead of sharing the information he has. He's good, but there are way better researchers/decoders out there like

Phil Valentine

Bobby Hemmitt

Delbert Blair

Alim Bey...

And the list could go on. I don't think he's crazy. I think after the attempt on his life, he started to go harder. I believe his house was burned down or something. He must be on to something if "they" are trying to get rid of him.

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Reply #12 posted 07/09/15 12:03pm

Cinny

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I fell into this Internet hole about 6 years ago. The more you research, the more you discover half truths mixed with pious conclusions.

Like... I heard ______ slept with _______. I heard ______ also slept with _______.
Conclusion: MANDATORY RITUAL. Then a big tangent about rituals. lol

I am sure as the "Minister of Information", Griff has a personal stake in the "information" he is sharing, but funny how he never drops dime on someone like Russell Simmons who ran Def Jam while Public Enemy recorded there.

I encourage you to keep researching! Go read the literature yourself and make your own conclusions.

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Reply #13 posted 07/09/15 12:20pm

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KoolEaze said:



NinaB said:


Some interesting points made about 'conspiracy theory's' in Robert Anton Wilson's book 'Everything is under control' There is a free pdf online. I would post the introduction but can't on my cell.

I´ve learned a lot from Uncle Bob. Great to see some appreciation for him.


But Everything Is Under Control is not a book that he really liked. He once said that of all the books he wrote, that one was the one he least liked because the whole process (and the result) were a rushed mess, keep in mind that his wife was very ill back then and died. I have most of his books, the non-fiction ones are still an interesting read. Too bad he´s dead now, I would´ve loved to see what he would write today.



I didn't know that about the book, (I like when he speaks about Arlen, and the Pookah wink ).

Unfortunately I only became aware of him approx 5 yrs ago thru Carlin.

This is the first book (but not the last) of his I have bought after watching most of his stuff on utube.

I like his perspective on the words 'Is' & 'Maybe', Ireland, the occult, consciousness, conspiracy etc.

How he handled his health challenges & his optimism (amongst other things) are inspirational to me.

Hail Bob!

...Oh yes, i meant to say it was the introduction part of the book i thought was kinda relative to this thread.
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"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #14 posted 07/09/15 12:31pm

NinaB

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ScarletScandal said:

I used to listen to Prof. Griff, but the more I started listening to him, he became a little too militant with what he wanted to say, instead of sharing the information he has. He's good, but there are way better researchers/decoders out there like


Phil Valentine


Bobby Hemmitt


Delbert Blair


Alim Bey...


And the list could go on. I don't think he's crazy. I think after the attempt on his life, he started to go harder. I believe his house was burned down or something. He must be on to something if "they" are trying to get rid of him.


I would add Red & Blue Pill, & Bro Rich to the list.

Alim is great when it comes to natural health imo, he has a calming energy too, a gent.
Somewhat under acknowledged unfortunately.

Bobby has done the most for me, he is a walking encyclopedia, the bibliographies he has given out have been invaluable to me.

I wish everyone would site their sources like he did.
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"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #15 posted 07/09/15 12:43pm

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Cinny said:

I fell into this Internet hole about 6 years ago. The more you research, the more you discover half truths mixed with pious conclusions.

Like... I heard _____ slept with _____. I heard _____ also slept with _____.
Conclusion: MANDATORY RITUAL. Then a big tangent about rituals. lol

I am sure as the "Minister of Information", Griff has a personal stake in the "information" he is sharing, but funny how he never drops dime on someone like Russell Simmons who ran Def Jam while Public Enemy recorded there.

I encourage you to keep researching! Go read the literature yourself and make your own conclusions.


I'm sure I saw one of his lectures where he dissed Simmons for that fuckree 'porn spoof' on Harriet Tubman.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #16 posted 07/09/15 12:57pm

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Superfan1984 said:

Someone at work told me to watch some of his videos on Youtube about the Illuminati and I have been. He doesn't sound crazy to me, in fact he seems to make a lot of sense. Thoughts?

I have no idea who he is but I can assure u that there is no such thing as "illuminatis". AT ALL. Such theories can be spreaded in a very convincing, attractive way but smart people (it's easy to manipulate people by creating an illusion of logic and facts, believe me) but it's just abusing the naivety of fragile or influenceable people. Don't fall for it.

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Reply #17 posted 07/09/15 2:30pm

Cinny

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NinaB said:

Cinny said:

I fell into this Internet hole about 6 years ago. The more you research, the more you discover half truths mixed with pious conclusions.

Like... I heard ______ slept with _______. I heard ______ also slept with _______.
Conclusion: MANDATORY RITUAL. Then a big tangent about rituals. lol

I am sure as the "Minister of Information", Griff has a personal stake in the "information" he is sharing, but funny how he never drops dime on someone like Russell Simmons who ran Def Jam while Public Enemy recorded there.

I encourage you to keep researching! Go read the literature yourself and make your own conclusions.

I'm sure I saw one of his lectures where he dissed Simmons for that 'porn spoof' on Harriet Tubman.

Okay, but that doesn't really expose anything but a different sense of humour/taste.

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Reply #18 posted 07/09/15 8:07pm

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Cinny said:



NinaB said:


Cinny said:

I fell into this Internet hole about 6 years ago. The more you research, the more you discover half truths mixed with pious conclusions.

Like... I heard _____ slept with _____. I heard _____ also slept with _____.
Conclusion: MANDATORY RITUAL. Then a big tangent about rituals. lol

I am sure as the "Minister of Information", Griff has a personal stake in the "information" he is sharing, but funny how he never drops dime on someone like Russell Simmons who ran Def Jam while Public Enemy recorded there.

I encourage you to keep researching! Go read the literature yourself and make your own conclusions.



I'm sure I saw one of his lectures where he dissed Simmons for that 'porn spoof' on Harriet Tubman.

Okay, but that doesn't really expose anything but a different sense of humour/taste.


Well, it is Griff we're talking about, he def went in deeper than just the matter of comedic taste.
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"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #19 posted 07/09/15 9:05pm

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All the anti illuminati youtubers are homophobic and transphobic. Long live the illuminati.

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Reply #20 posted 07/10/15 11:15am

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NinaB said:

ScarletScandal said:

I used to listen to Prof. Griff, but the more I started listening to him, he became a little too militant with what he wanted to say, instead of sharing the information he has. He's good, but there are way better researchers/decoders out there like

Phil Valentine

Bobby Hemmitt

Delbert Blair

Alim Bey...

And the list could go on. I don't think he's crazy. I think after the attempt on his life, he started to go harder. I believe his house was burned down or something. He must be on to something if "they" are trying to get rid of him.

I would add Red & Blue Pill, & Bro Rich to the list. Alim is great when it comes to natural health imo, he has a calming energy too, a gent. Somewhat under acknowledged unfortunately. Bobby has done the most for me, he is a walking encyclopedia, the bibliographies he has given out have been invaluable to me. I wish everyone would site their sources like he did. [Edited 7/9/15 13:03pm]

Bobby is a master lol


The first time I listened to Alim, I thought he was a little slow, but god damn, he KNOWS what he's talking about.

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Reply #21 posted 07/10/15 11:47am

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^ Bro Rich said the other day that Bobby is doing really well & within approx 12 mnths will be 100% & back lecturing again!
Sooooo happy to hear that.

Yeah Alim is great, love when he goes into the science of breath/kundalini/herbs/chakras/Qigong etc etc
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"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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NinaB said:

^ Bro Rich said the other day that Bobby is doing really well & within approx 12 mnths will be 100% & back lecturing again! Sooooo happy to hear that. Yeah Alim is great, love when he goes into the science of breath/kundalini/herbs/chakras/Qigong etc etc [Edited 7/10/15 11:53am]

Oh hell yeah! I'm glad to hear he is getting better smile

He still has work to do lol

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ScarletScandal said:



NinaB said:


^ Bro Rich said the other day that Bobby is doing really well & within approx 12 mnths will be 100% & back lecturing again! Sooooo happy to hear that. Yeah Alim is great, love when he goes into the science of breath/kundalini/herbs/chakras/Qigong etc etc [Edited 7/10/15 11:53am]

Oh hell yeah! I'm glad to hear he is getting better smile


He still has work to do lol


Yes! Best news I've had in ages. Hit me hard when that happened to him, of all people! Even if he never worked again I'd be Happy knowing he's back to himself.
Seemingly the recovery that is not quite finished is strictly of a physical nature.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #24 posted 07/10/15 5:56pm

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Superfan1984 said:

Someone at work told me to watch some of his videos on Youtube about the Illuminati and I have been. He doesn't sound crazy to me, in fact he seems to make a lot of sense. Thoughts?


Public Enemy fan right here! wave mr.green

AS a conspiracy researcher, Professor Griff is still pretty good. nod The same thing can be said of him as a speaker untill he opens his big mouth about "The black man is god!" disbelief

And also, I'm not fan of Griff's protege (and rumored girlfriend?!?) Zaza Ali, simply because I'm turn off to the most of the black feminist bullshit equally as the white feminist bullshit. To put it bluntly, Zaza is not worthy to hold Sista Souljah's boots.

I stand by my words.

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ScarletScandal said:

I used to listen to Prof. Griff, but the more I started listening to him, he became a little too militant with what he wanted to say, instead of sharing the information he has. He's good, but there are way better researchers/decoders out there like

Phil Valentine

Bobby Hemmitt

Delbert Blair

Alim Bey...

And the list could go on. I don't think he's crazy. I think after the attempt on his life, he started to go harder. I believe his house was burned down or something. He must be on to something if "they" are trying to get rid of him.


I also like to add the late Dr. Steve Cokely to that list as well. wink

And lets never sleep on Manly P. Hall, William Cooper, Mark Passio, & Freeman Fly neither.

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Cinny said:

I fell into this Internet hole about 6 years ago. The more you research, the more you discover half truths mixed with pious conclusions.

Like... I heard ______ slept with _______. I heard ______ also slept with _______.
Conclusion: MANDATORY RITUAL. Then a big tangent about rituals. lol

I am sure as the "Minister of Information", Griff has a personal stake in the "information" he is sharing, but funny how he never drops dime on someone like Russell Simmons who ran Def Jam while Public Enemy recorded there.

I encourage you to keep researching! Go read the literature yourself and make your own conclusions.


Excuse you, but Griff have been doing a negative tell-all about Russell Simmons & Lyor Cohen for years. Where have you been? Don't you ever look of good documentaries on YouTube anymore?!? no no no! lol

And remember, it was Rick Rubin, NOT Russell Simmons (who was already having a cocaine problem by that time!) that gave the Def Jam Recording contracts to Chuck D & Flava Flav.

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Reply #27 posted 07/10/15 6:10pm

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Hudson said:

All the anti illuminati youtubers are homophobic and transphobic. Long live the illuminati.


Bullshit. rolleyes

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Reply #28 posted 07/11/15 7:03am

Cinny

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TonyVanDam said:

Cinny said:

I fell into this Internet hole about 6 years ago. The more you research, the more you discover half truths mixed with pious conclusions.

Like... I heard ______ slept with _______. I heard ______ also slept with _______.
Conclusion: MANDATORY RITUAL. Then a big tangent about rituals. lol

I am sure as the "Minister of Information", Griff has a personal stake in the "information" he is sharing, but funny how he never drops dime on someone like Russell Simmons who ran Def Jam while Public Enemy recorded there.

I encourage you to keep researching! Go read the literature yourself and make your own conclusions.


Excuse you, but Griff have been doing a negative tell-all about Russell Simmons & Lyor Cohen for years. Where have you been? Don't you ever look of good documentaries on YouTube anymore?!? no no no! lol

And remember, it was Rick Rubin, NOT Russell Simmons (who was already having a cocaine problem by that time!) that gave the Def Jam Recording contracts to Chuck D & Flava Flav.

Every time I looked at Griff he was talking about Quincy Jones and Will Smith or some other LEGENDS whose work was much greater than their supposed casting couch.

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TonyVanDam said:

Hudson said:

All the anti illuminati youtubers are homophobic and transphobic. Long live the illuminati.


Bullshit. rolleyes

No, that's pretty much what I discovered as well.

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