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Thread started 04/15/15 11:32am

maplenpg

Hunting our Precious Animals

So...This picture of Rebecca Francis & the dead/dying giraffe she has just killed has been all over the UK news. It makes me feel ashamed that humans still kill our most precious beasts just for fun. How can anyone think this is okay?

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Reply #1 posted 04/15/15 11:33am

maplenpg

And she doesn't stop at giraffes....The mind boggles!


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Reply #2 posted 04/15/15 11:41am

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Reply #3 posted 04/15/15 11:58am

JoeTyler

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Reply #4 posted 04/15/15 12:15pm

RodeoSchro

Her side of the story, which is incredibly weak. What? The locals couldn't have taken down that giraffe any time they wanted to? I'm not against hunting if you eat the meat, but I don't respect trophy hunters like her.

We just connected with Rebecca Francis and got a statement on her Giraffe hunt that anti-hunters are attacking her for. Rebecca said, "When I was in Africa five years ago I was of the mindset that I would never shoot a giraffe. I was approached toward the end of my hunt with a unique circumstance. They showed me this beautiful old bull giraffe that was wandering all alone. He had been kicked out of the herd by a younger and stronger bull. He was past his breeding years and very close to death. They asked me if I would preserve this giraffe by providing all the locals with food and other means of survival. He was inevitably going to die soon and he could either be wasted or utilized by the local people. I chose to honor his life by providing others with his uses and I do not regret it for one second. Once he was down there were people waiting to take his meat. They also took his tail to make jewelry, his bones to make other things, and did not waste a single part of him. I am grateful to be a part of something so good" REBECCA FRANCIS IS A HUNTER/CONSERVATIONIST and we stand behind her 100%!!

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Reply #5 posted 04/15/15 12:27pm

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RodeoSchro said:

I'm not against hunting if you eat the meat, but I don't respect trophy hunters like her.

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Reply #6 posted 04/15/15 12:32pm

JustErin

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Hunters hunt for the thrill of the kill and nothing more. It's beyond despicable.

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Reply #7 posted 04/15/15 12:41pm

RodeoSchro

JustErin said:

Hunters hunt for the thrill of the kill and nothing more. It's beyond despicable.



Not true, especially with bird hunters who generally cook and eat all the birds they kill.

I respect a hunter that tracks their game, kills it and eats it. There are plenty of those types of hunters around.

I do not respect anyone that draws game to them (salt licks underneath deer stands, etc.) nor do I respect anyone that kills an imported animal at a "game preserve", no matter if they eat it or not.

I saw an obituary in the paper a couple weeks ago about some guy that was a big hunter. He was a rich kid that had his own rifle range in his bedroom growing up (not kidding, that's what it said). He was a "philanthropist" who supported "conservation" which is just a different way of saying that he paid for special habitats to raise animals that he could then go shoot.

Pretty disgusting IMHO.

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Reply #8 posted 04/15/15 12:54pm

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Hunters hunt for the thrill of the kill and nothing more. It's beyond despicable.

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Reply #9 posted 04/15/15 12:55pm

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Reply #10 posted 04/15/15 1:47pm

maplenpg

RodeoSchro said:

Her side of the story, which is incredibly weak. What? The locals couldn't have taken down that giraffe any time they wanted to? I'm not against hunting if you eat the meat, but I don't respect trophy hunters like her.

We just connected with Rebecca Francis and got a statement on her Giraffe hunt that anti-hunters are attacking her for. Rebecca said, "When I was in Africa five years ago I was of the mindset that I would never shoot a giraffe. I was approached toward the end of my hunt with a unique circumstance. They showed me this beautiful old bull giraffe that was wandering all alone. He had been kicked out of the herd by a younger and stronger bull. He was past his breeding years and very close to death. They asked me if I would preserve this giraffe by providing all the locals with food and other means of survival. He was inevitably going to die soon and he could either be wasted or utilized by the local people. I chose to honor his life by providing others with his uses and I do not regret it for one second. Once he was down there were people waiting to take his meat. They also took his tail to make jewelry, his bones to make other things, and did not waste a single part of him. I am grateful to be a part of something so good" REBECCA FRANCIS IS A HUNTER/CONSERVATIONIST and we stand behind her 100%!!


I guess she found herself in a unique circumstance with the lion & cheetah too!!!

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Reply #11 posted 04/15/15 1:55pm

morningsong

Is this all over the news causing people shock because this is a cute girl enjoying the sport? I mean it's not like animal hunting for sport is some new thing. The way people really think is interesting sometimes.

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Reply #12 posted 04/15/15 2:37pm

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I'm just curious as to why this particular person is so "newsworthy".


Rich white Europeans have been sport hunting in Africa for hundreds of years (thousands if you count ancient Romans). TODAY you still have Hunting Expeditions where people spend big bucks to shoot wild game and take pictures of themselves with their dead animals. SO, why is this particular hunter so controversial? Is it because of the giraffe, or because she is a woman?

Just curious.

As for me...I'd love to go on an expedition...with my CAMERA. nod

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Reply #13 posted 04/15/15 2:48pm

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JustErin said:

Hunters hunt for the thrill of the kill and nothing more. It's beyond despicable.


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Reply #14 posted 04/15/15 3:11pm

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JustErin said:

Hunters hunt for the thrill of the kill and nothing more. It's beyond despicable.

people have always hunted for food

yes there are those who hunt for the thrill

there are place with restricted hunting, to help overpopulations

such as deer, and people usually eat the meat

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Reply #15 posted 04/15/15 3:38pm

RodeoSchro

PurpleJedi said:

I'm just curious as to why this particular person is so "newsworthy".


Rich white Europeans have been sport hunting in Africa for hundreds of years (thousands if you count ancient Romans). TODAY you still have Hunting Expeditions where people spend big bucks to shoot wild game and take pictures of themselves with their dead animals. SO, why is this particular hunter so controversial? Is it because of the giraffe, or because she is a woman?

Just curious.

As for me...I'd love to go on an expedition...with my CAMERA. nod



You'd have to ask Ricky Gervais, as he's the one that brought her to the public eye.

Had he not Tweeted out the picture of her with the giraffe, I doubt anyone would be talking about her today.

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Reply #16 posted 04/15/15 6:33pm

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imo, hunting for food is not unethical. imo, in some ways it is far better than eating meat from a factory farm. but i despise individuals who hunt for trophies, or for skins and such. it took us minnesotans a couple of years to get wolves back on the protected list so that full on slaughter of their species cannot occur; we are still working to stop trapping and snaring of wolves. they are a much maligned species of very intelligent, lovely predators. a lot of hunters seem to believe they are doing the world a favor by killing predators, but i strongly disagree. i don't know why this woman rebecca francis would be proud to kill a cheetah, lion or other animal for non-food purposes. imo, that is quite twisted

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Reply #17 posted 04/15/15 7:40pm

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I don't buy her whole 'humanitarian' killing

who makes happy faces with dead beings

no different than those ghetto funerals where people pose with the dead

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Reply #18 posted 04/15/15 11:45pm

maplenpg

I think it's no concidence that the pretty blonde is the one that makes the news. As another orger said, if Ricky Gervais had not tweeted it then nobody would know.

I'm against all forms of hunting personally (and no - I don't eat meat or fish) but I live in the countryside where shooting and hunting are the norm and I respect that. I don't buy into hunters that just kill to eat - certainly on a shoot where I live they could eat for a year on what they kill. On a shoot few just kill a single pheasant, rabbit or deer for tea and then stop.



Anyhow, these pictures made me sad. I hate to say it but the fact that it is a giraffe or lion does make a difference. I really can't get inside the head of anyone who thinks killing these sort of animals is fun. On a website that listed her other kills she said that pregnant animals and baby animals were fair game so that says a lot about her.

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Reply #19 posted 04/15/15 11:49pm

maplenpg

OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't buy her whole 'humanitarian' killing

who makes happy faces with dead beings

no different than those ghetto funerals where people pose with the dead

yeahthat

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Reply #20 posted 04/16/15 4:15am

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I have no problem with hunting for meat, and it’s something I plan to take up once I retire. I’m almost entirely vegetarian, but I do make exception for hunted meat, and once in a while one of the techs I work with will graciously give me some whenever he bags a deer. It’s a far more ethical, humane thing to do than eating a pig born from a sow that was kept immobile for 90% of its life or any of the other things that are standard practice in mass farming. I don’t know why the people I work with hunt (I can’t see into their hearts), but what really matters to me isn’t their motivation, but the end result: meat produced with as little suffering as possible.

Trophy hunting on the other hand is just a rotten & awful thing to do IMO.

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Reply #21 posted 04/16/15 5:53am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

JustErin said:

Hunters hunt for the thrill of the kill and nothing more. It's beyond despicable.

people have always hunted for food

yes there are those who hunt for the thrill

there are place with restricted hunting, to help overpopulations

such as deer, and people usually eat the meat

Once upon a time hunting was done for survival, all humans did it. Safe for remote (usually indigenous) communities hunting is no longer required for survival.

The biggest lie about hunting is that it's somehow conservation, that human intervention is required to control wildlife populations that have somehow managed to maintain their populations for...well...forever. The argument always is something along these lines, "I usually only see 1 or 2 deer in my backyard, now I see 8-10! So many deer/vehicle collisions! The population has exploded!". No, encroachment of land has created the problem of higher concentrations of the population in smaller zones.

That's not to say that populations do not fluctuate, they do naturally and when that happens and populations get a little higher natural occurrences of disease happen and numbers go back down. True problems with out of control populations are a direct result of humans fucking around with wildlife, taking out one species or introducing another, along those lines. For several years I worked in the wildlife rehabilitation and conservation field, was involved in countless studies and have first hand experience with the hunting community. I have seen the destruction and cruelty hunting has done to animals that were injured but not killed, by orphaned wildlife that were left to die a slow agonizing death.

I'm not sure where you live and maybe you are unfamiliar with modern hunting culture. I currently live in a rural area and hunting is HUGE here. It has nothing to do with survival and although some hunters do eat some of their kills (not too many people eat fox or coyote) that is not the reason they are hunting. The meal is the by-product of the thrill of the kill. Venison or pheasant can be easily purchased here, no need to go out and hunt it, but that's not what modern hunting is about. These hunters are looking for their 6+ point buck (that doesn't, btw, taste any better than the others). Sure, the may eat the meat but they also lop off the head and stick it up on their wall or stuff it and stick it on a stand to show off their glorious kill.

I am not against hunting to survive, I am not even against eating animals but I am against cruelty which does include factory farming and I am appalled that some humans take joy in the act of killing.

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Reply #22 posted 04/16/15 9:47am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

I don't buy her whole 'humanitarian' killing

who makes happy faces with dead beings

no different than those ghetto funerals where people pose with the dead

The pictures completely contradict her claims of being a "compassionate conservationist..." razz

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Reply #23 posted 04/16/15 10:07am

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She's a devil. Actual hunting can be defended, but that shit is illegal as fuck.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #24 posted 04/16/15 11:51am

Shyra

Perhaps one day she will shoot an animal that will surprise her silly ass and jump up and bite her freakin head off. I would not feel one bit sorry for her. In fact, I hope it happens.

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Reply #25 posted 04/16/15 11:58am

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Shyra said:

Perhaps one day she will shoot an animal that will surprise her silly ass and jump up and bite her freakin head off. I would not feel one bit sorry for her. In fact, I hope it happens.

Maybe the animal will post a selfie with the corpse? razz

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Reply #26 posted 04/16/15 12:19pm

maplenpg

Huntinglife.com (in defence of Rebecca Francis) state "To a hunter every animal they take cleanly and ethically is a trophy and a memory that will last forever" - Well I guess that makes it alright then?????????????


A photograph from one Francis' hunts

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Reply #27 posted 04/16/15 12:21pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

Shyra said:

Perhaps one day she will shoot an animal that will surprise her silly ass and jump up and bite her freakin head off. I would not feel one bit sorry for her. In fact, I hope it happens.

Maybe the animal will post a selfie with the corpse? razz

U 2 R silly lol that made me laugh

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Reminds me of the dumb woman who posed next to the Panda cage.

She wasn't supposed to go there, but people think Pandas are all nice and safe and cuddly

The panda looked at her and almost snatched her throught the cage lol

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Reply #28 posted 04/18/15 9:51am

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So, kill an animal, pose the body, then take a picture with it.
These devils...
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Reply #29 posted 04/18/15 2:15pm

maplenpg

And to think a vet did this....the mind boggles...this was someone's pet!!!


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