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Thread started 07/02/14 12:02pm

Genesia

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The 4th of July - I always wonder

I work for an American company that has a pretty substantial operation in the UK. I always wonder how my colleagues over there feel when all the folks in the States have the 4th of July off.

Oh, sure - you all have your bank holidays and whatnot when we're working and you're not. But we're actually celebrating the time we kicked your ass.

I'm glad we got over all that, by the way. lol

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Reply #1 posted 07/03/14 3:24pm

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considering our economy right now maybe they don't really believe we really kicked anyone's ass but our own. shrug

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Reply #2 posted 07/06/14 8:49am

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By St. Boogar and all the saints at the backside door of Purgatory!
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Reply #3 posted 07/06/14 8:56am

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PurpleJedi said:

Source? razz

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Reply #4 posted 07/06/14 11:55am

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Beautifulstarr123 said:

PurpleJedi said:

Source? razz

The Force yoda

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Reply #5 posted 07/06/14 12:08pm

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Genesia said:

I work for an American company that has a pretty substantial operation in the UK. I always wonder how my colleagues over there feel when all the folks in the States have the 4th of July off.

Oh, sure - you all have your bank holidays and whatnot when we're working and you're not. But we're actually celebrating the time we kicked your ass.

I'm glad we got over all that, by the way. lol

They might have other holidays off that isn't celebrated in the U.S.

But it is funny that you bring up that the holiday is independence from Britain.

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Reply #6 posted 07/06/14 1:17pm

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to clarify, although i know the US is still technically one of the wealthiest nations, i had in mind more the disparity the ownership of said wealth. we are the 99%

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Reply #8 posted 07/06/14 1:25pm

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Wooohooo, I wouldn't have to move.


No?
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Reply #9 posted 07/10/14 3:56pm

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well, let's see. our ancestors allegedly left their native lands and came here to enhance their own personal freedom (ironically at times through the labors of slaves), and to allow themselves greater investment in their own political and economic venues. so do we see that model working for us now? smile

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Reply #10 posted 07/10/14 7:24pm

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As someone from England, nobody mentions it really. As we didn't learn about it at school, I doubt many people today even realize who the red coats were?

Even if we did, we wouldn't care much to be honest.

Iam not even sure why King George the whatever (was it George?) didn't fight back? Probably a war in Europe or something occupied him?

Iam sure some idiot American would love to gloat about it to a Englishman, but I doubt we really care to be honest.

Things that happened long ago in British history remains just that: history. I don't think some American's understand that LOL.

The celebrations you guys do are very OTT LOL,

thats something I think we wonder about you guys lol

I mean seriously the war was mainly about taxation I think, and that's it. Not that interesting really LOL. But still, a holiday's a holiday so that's cool.

When it comes to patriotism in general, England is one of the least patriotic places on earth I think LOL

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Reply #11 posted 07/11/14 2:57am

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like it or not, the USA will always be a part of the UK that became independent; we sure won the war, but the roots will always be there

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Reply #12 posted 07/11/14 3:03am

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thesexofit said:

As someone from England, nobody mentions it really. As we didn't learn about it at school, I doubt many people today even realize who the red coats were?

Even if we did, we wouldn't care much to be honest.

Iam not even sure why King George the whatever (was it George?) didn't fight back? Probably a war in Europe or something occupied him?

Iam sure some idiot American would love to gloat about it to a Englishman, but I doubt we really care to be honest.

Things that happened long ago in British history remains just that: history. I don't think some American's understand that LOL.

The celebrations you guys do are very OTT LOL,

thats something I think we wonder about you guys lol

I mean seriously the war was mainly about taxation I think, and that's it. Not that interesting really LOL. But still, a holiday's a holiday so that's cool.

When it comes to patriotism in general, England is one of the least patriotic places on earth I think LOL

I agree with you to a point, but as a Spaniard living in the UK, I have heard (more than once) "We beat your Armada"...

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Reply #13 posted 07/14/14 7:20am

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thesexofit said:

As someone from England, nobody mentions it really. As we didn't learn about it at school, I doubt many people today even realize who the red coats were?

Even if we did, we wouldn't care much to be honest.

Iam not even sure why King George the whatever (was it George?) didn't fight back? Probably a war in Europe or something occupied him?

Iam sure some idiot American would love to gloat about it to a Englishman, but I doubt we really care to be honest.

Things that happened long ago in British history remains just that: history. I don't think some American's understand that LOL.

The celebrations you guys do are very OTT LOL,

thats something I think we wonder about you guys lol

I mean seriously the war was mainly about taxation I think, and that's it. Not that interesting really LOL. But still, a holiday's a holiday so that's cool.

When it comes to patriotism in general, England is one of the least patriotic places on earth I think LOL


Wow - they really didn't teach you anything about it, did they? Denial is a river in Egypt. lol

The war (including skirmishes before July 4, 1776 - at least three of my ancestors answered the Lexington call) lasted six years. I don't think you can really categorize that as George III (it was George the III) "not fighting back." In fact, he recruited 30,000 Germans (Hessians) to help him out.

While taxation was certainly an issue, the Quartering Act that was the straw that broke the camel's back. The king ordered the colonists to house British soldiers in their homes without recompense. After Lexington and Concord in 1775, it was on - even though the Declaration of Independence wouldn't be written for another year.

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Reply #15 posted 08/07/14 5:33pm

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Genesia said:

thesexofit said:

As someone from England, nobody mentions it really. As we didn't learn about it at school, I doubt many people today even realize who the red coats were?

Even if we did, we wouldn't care much to be honest.

Iam not even sure why King George the whatever (was it George?) didn't fight back? Probably a war in Europe or something occupied him?

Iam sure some idiot American would love to gloat about it to a Englishman, but I doubt we really care to be honest.

Things that happened long ago in British history remains just that: history. I don't think some American's understand that LOL.

The celebrations you guys do are very OTT LOL,

thats something I think we wonder about you guys lol

I mean seriously the war was mainly about taxation I think, and that's it. Not that interesting really LOL. But still, a holiday's a holiday so that's cool.

When it comes to patriotism in general, England is one of the least patriotic places on earth I think LOL


Wow - they really didn't teach you anything about it, did they? Denial is a river in Egypt. lol

The war (including skirmishes before July 4, 1776 - at least three of my ancestors answered the Lexington call) lasted six years. I don't think you can really categorize that as George III (it was George the III) "not fighting back." In fact, he recruited 30,000 Germans (Hessians) to help him out.

While taxation was certainly an issue, the Quartering Act that was the straw that broke the camel's back. The king ordered the colonists to house British soldiers in their homes without recompense. After Lexington and Concord in 1775, it was on - even though the Declaration of Independence wouldn't be written for another year.

I wouldn't of minded to study it at school, but lets face it, it's the birth of modern America and so Iam not surprised the curriculum didn't include it. I doubt it's because USA whipped our asses or whatever some americans think LOL. We really don't hold a grudge over it. Maybe because you guys helped us out massively in ww2? Maybe that helped mend some bridges?

Instead we did our own cival war. But we did talk about native americans, which I did find interesting in general and I think we did Columbus, whom I Imagine American kids study too?

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Reply #16 posted 08/07/14 5:34pm

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tatocorcu said:

thesexofit said:

As someone from England, nobody mentions it really. As we didn't learn about it at school, I doubt many people today even realize who the red coats were?

Even if we did, we wouldn't care much to be honest.

Iam not even sure why King George the whatever (was it George?) didn't fight back? Probably a war in Europe or something occupied him?

Iam sure some idiot American would love to gloat about it to a Englishman, but I doubt we really care to be honest.

Things that happened long ago in British history remains just that: history. I don't think some American's understand that LOL.

The celebrations you guys do are very OTT LOL,

thats something I think we wonder about you guys lol

I mean seriously the war was mainly about taxation I think, and that's it. Not that interesting really LOL. But still, a holiday's a holiday so that's cool.

When it comes to patriotism in general, England is one of the least patriotic places on earth I think LOL

I agree with you to a point, but as a Spaniard living in the UK, I have heard (more than once) "We beat your Armada"...

Really lol . That's so sad. LOL.

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