So, i was kind of interested about this. Since i am body building right now i was reading this magazine that talked about how Timbaland used to be into it.

He claims he never did roids... but i am curious how the hell he turned all that fat into muscle so quick. Timbo was HUGE i mean he was a straight fat man wide and all... then it took like no time for him to turn all that into muscle.

Before you can really ''turn it all into muscle'' you HAVE to do cardio... it's just like i am getting rid of my last bit of love handles. I do core work but not as much as cardio cause you have to get rid of the fat before you can even see anything. So i stick to a lot of legs, upper body, back etc.

Timbo said he rarely did cardio so he just turned ALL that fat... into muscle by simply weight lifting? i call bullshit. Then within a couple years he was really chubby again... and seemed to have lost all the muscle he gained

Is it REALLY possible for someone to...

A. Get ripped without doing almost any cardio... i just can't see that happening.

B. Put it on incredibly fast with a lot of body fat

C. Lose it all very quickly

I am just curious about this... since i am learning more about body building myths and facts

you don't have to do cardio to lose fat

honestly dude, if you're body building, it's about diet, training and rest

MoBetterBliss said:

you don't have to do cardio to lose fat

honestly dude, if you're body building, it's about diet, training and rest

But how can you just do straight muscle buildin and no cardio? all the body builders i know told me cardio is a must.

Although every body is different.,..

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Gunsnhalen said:

MoBetterBliss said:

you don't have to do cardio to lose fat

honestly dude, if you're body building, it's about diet, training and rest

But how can you just do straight muscle buildin and no cardio? all the body builders i know told me cardio is a must.

depends what you're doing... if you're trying to lose fat, eat enough food that you lose a pound or two a week... just keep your protein up

Gunsnhalen said:

MoBetterBliss said:

you don't have to do cardio to lose fat

honestly dude, if you're body building, it's about diet, training and rest

But how can you just do straight muscle buildin and no cardio? all the body builders i know told me cardio is a must.

I was told the same thing by a personal trainer, and also many professional body builders (check out body building websites) also say that to get in shape they all did cardio hard core. It is usually after they reach their body building goal that many of them do little to no cardio because they don't want to lose any muscle.

DysregulatedToxicity said:

Gunsnhalen said:

But how can you just do straight muscle buildin and no cardio? all the body builders i know told me cardio is a must.

I was told the same thing by a personal trainer, and also many professional body builders (check out body building websites) also say that to get in shape they all did cardio hard core. It is usually after they reach their body building goal that many of them do little to no cardio because they don't want to lose any muscle.

i know it is different for everyone. So that is why i ask how it works for some other people.

I do hardcore cardio and lifting... but no on the same days. I am looking good up top my chest has formed nicely, biceps are a lot harder, back is harder. Stomach is way leaner... just trying all i can to get rid of those last it of love handles them shits are the devil

the absolute most important thing in trying to lose fat while bodybuilding is diet... if your diet is shit, sure, do heaps of cardio

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i'll be honest with you dude... i've read for a while now what you've said about how much cardio you do and what you're trying to achieve... and i believe you have it wrong

Just so we're all clear...you don't actually turn fat INTO muscle...you LOSE fat and GAIN muscle.

It's actually a common misconception that bodybuilders get fat to gain muscle...they gain WEIGHT (muscle & fat) and then lose all the fat & look like an anatomy chart.

The guys in the videos above are the more normal examples, not crazy swollen and they can probably look like that year-round.

^Exactly.

You can't turn fat into muscle, and muscle can't turn into fat.

RodeoSchro said:

^Exactly.

You can't turn fat into muscle, and muscle can't turn into fat.

...and thanks for not asking about the benchpress anymore.

That's pretty much gone out the window.

Haven't set foot in my "real" gym in almost 3 months...been to Planet Fitness (my "alternate" gym) maybe 2 or 3 times in as many weeks, but those are cardio and ab workouts for the most part.

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There are ways of lifting so you get your strength and cardio in one - like high-rep sets with minimal rest between sets (especially if you're working larger muscle groups). Or doing something like kettlebells, which work your whole body at once.

But, yeah - fat loss is most efficiently achieved through diet. Lean meat and non-starchy veggies. You'll be hungry all the time (and I mean hungry enough to gnaw your own arm off), but the fat will fall off.

MoBetterBliss said:

PurpleJedi said:

RodeoSchro said:

^Exactly.

You can't turn fat into muscle, and muscle can't turn into fat.

...and thanks for not asking about the benchpress anymore.

That's pretty much gone out the window.

Haven't set foot in my "real" gym in almost 3 months...been to Planet Fitness (my "alternate" gym) maybe 2 or 3 times in as many weeks, but those are cardio and ab workouts for the most part.

Hey, I'll always be there for motivation and encouragement when you want it!

My lifting has been spotty this year. I get in about three weeks in a row of good workouts, and then miss a week or three. Repeat and repeat.

The good news though, is that I hit the gym last week after a 2-week absence and lo and behold! I recovered to my normal weights in 2 workouts. I figured it would take 2 weeks to get back!

I have started doing cardio. Ugh. I hate it but my assumption that long workouts with short rest intervals would do the trick was wrong. Dang it!

If you want to build muscle mass, lift heavy weights.

If you want to strip away fat from muscled areas, do lots of reps with lighter weights.

In either case, diet is key. You can't strip away the fat if you keep replacing it through what you eat.

RodeoSchro said:

Gunsnhalen said:

RodeoSchro said:

If you want to build muscle mass, lift heavy weights.

If you want to strip away fat from muscled areas, do lots of reps with lighter weights.

In either case, diet is key. You can't strip away the fat if you keep replacing it through what you eat.

I think once you're over 200 on bench and squats it's pretty heavy I usually only lift heavy or so strength training. Like carrying 2 45 ib plates on my chest and walking for 5 minutes. That's helped me get a lot stronger. By many or next year I want to be lifting 300... I know I can do it. I wanted to lift 225 by summer and surpassed that. 300 is whole different beast though...

Awesome. You can do it!

You are exactly right - the only way to get stronger is to lift the heaviest weights you can, as many times as you can.

even reading this makes me tired. *chomps on a carrot*

Timberland was ALWAYS fat.

I can only agree with the other posts here...it's all about diet. If you still have lovehandles, you bodyfat% is just too high. I didn't do cardio till i was 38 or something and had a very low body%.

That saying, it's also of course your bodytype, but what i learned most is try different things.

You say you wanna lift more and more weight, i'm not sure that helps you with your body%. You can do amazing and powerful workouts with just light weights. it's all about intensity and not how much weights you lift.

Change your programm often, surprise the body.

Anyway, you really have to find out for yourself, takes a long time to find your diet and your workout.

RodeoSchro said:

If you want to strip away fat from muscled areas, do lots of reps with lighter weights.

this can work like cardio... but you don't mean you can strip away fat from a specific muscled area by doing this, do you?

for example, if your chest has some fat on it and you want to strip it away, doing high reps on chest excercises won't specifically strip fat away from your chest

and op... i'm not saying cardio is no good... i'm saying you absolutely do not HAVE to do cardio to lose fat when bodybuilding

and each to their own... but i personally never do cardio before training... why in the world would i want to use up energy on cardio that can be used for an intensive weights session




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MoBetterBliss said:

RodeoSchro said:

If you want to strip away fat from muscled areas, do lots of reps with lighter weights.

this can work like cardio... but you don't mean you can strip away fat from a specific muscled area by doing this, do you?

for example, if your chest has some fat on it and you want to strip it away, doing high reps on chest excercises won't specifically strip fat away from your chest

and op... i'm not saying cardio is no good... i'm saying you absolutely do not HAVE to do cardio to lose fat when bodybuilding

and each to their own... but i personally never do cardio before training... why in the world would i want to use up energy on cardio that can be used for an intensive weights session

Yup - always weights before cardio. The lifting will burn up your glycogen, so you're in fat-burning mode for the cardio.

I'm on day 2 of weights before cardio.

Yesterday did an hour of lifting before hand..,. today going to do 30 minutes of lifting before hand.

I will let y'all know if i feel or see any difference in a few weeks

I'm still using Dr. Layne Norton's program - two days of heavy lifting (3-6 reps/longer rest between sets), rest day, then another two days of light lifting (12-15 reps/minimal rest between sets). That plus the stairmaster & kettlebell exercises is my cardio.

Uptowny i do that sometimes! good workout.

You guys so far (Ok only 2 days in but still) i am actually liking this. My trainer told me it is a good idea at my stage to lift first any-who...

Today i did squating with a low weight and did tons of reps (120 on 4 sets) And that was my ''cardio'' today

I also started taking creatine as well! i am a little late on that. I was iffy at first as previous posts can see.. but i think this way or working out has me even more hyped.