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Killer skyscraper!

Towering new skyscraper in London blamed for melting cars, setting fires



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Tourists who will be visiting London in the near future might want to check out the city’s hottest new property: a 37-story skyscraper known at 20 Fenchurch Street, dubbed the “Walkie-Talkie Tower” because of its curved shape.


But beware: When the sun reaches a certain position in the sky and hits the tower at a particular angle, the reflected beam of sunlight is intense and, in fact, it’s being blamed for melting cars, setting carpet ablaze, and blotching paint on buildings.


On Monday, street-level temperatures beneath this beam of light soared to 150 degrees in Eastcheap, which is the present focal point for the beam–or ground zero.

Townsfolk are seething, and a little bit frightened.

This concentrated beam of sunlight, which has been referred to as a “solar death ray,” only recently became a serious issue, as the position of the sun has changed with the changing of the season.


It’s being blamed for melting the panels of a high-end Jaguar last week, and more recently for damaging a van.


On Monday, according to City A.M., the beam set the carpet of an East...op on fire.

“Even the wood [of the door] is burning, and all of our product is melting–it’s not safe,” employee Ali Akay said, demanding that developers fix the problem.

The developers have launched an investigation and the City of London has suspended parking operations in three areas that might be affected by the beam.


Meanwhile, all of Eastcheap is hoping for cloudy skies.



Full story HERE

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Reply #1 posted 09/03/13 1:40pm

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You know it's bad when a building is melting cars. The a big oops in design.

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Reply #2 posted 09/03/13 1:45pm

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Reply #3 posted 09/03/13 2:28pm

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http://www.nytimes.com/20...ce=message

Dallas Museum Simmers in a Neighbor’s Glare

DALLAS — Two things were supposed to happen when the Nasher Sculpture Center opened here in 2003. Famous works like Rodin’s “Age of Bronze” and Matisse’s “Madeleine I” were to be bathed in copious sunlight streaming through a glass roof. And new vigor was to come to the surrounding neighborhood.

The results exceeded expectations. And Dallas has a mess on its hands.

The center, designed by Renzo Piano and Peter Walker, was considered so appealing that a 42-story condominium called Museum Tower sprouted across the street. But the glass skin of the condo tower, still under construction, now reflects so much light that it is threatening artworks in the galleries, burning the plants in the center’s garden and blinding visitors with its glare.

No one quite knows what to do. The condo developer and museum officials are at loggerheads. Fingers are being pointed. Mr. Piano is furious. The developer’s architect is aggrieved. The mayor is involved. A former official in the George W. Bush administration has been asked to mediate.

The situation has been characterized by some here as a David-and-Goliath battle between a beloved nonprofit and commercial interests. But the dispute has also raised the broader question of what can happen when, as is currently the rage, cultural institutions are cast as engines of economic development.

The Nasher was seen as an important spur to the renaissance of downtown Dallas, much the way Lincoln Center was viewed as something of a cure for urban blight on the West Side of Manhattan. But the forces unleashed in these situations can prompt a distinctly uneasy relationship between cultural organizations and the neighborhood changes they attract.

“These things start to bump into each other,” said the mayor of Dallas, Mike Rawlings. “How we as a civic society power through this is an important moment for us. You’ve got a high-growth engine that is trying to do right by Giacometti.”

Dallas’s interest in raising its cultural profile is palpable here: the city has been building its arts district over the last 20 years; Saturday Cowboys Stadium hosted a simulcast of Mozart’s “Magic Flute” by the Dallas Opera. The Nasher problem has the whole city concerned and watching.

“Typically, neighborhood disputes are not this dramatic — an offending sign or a barking dog,” said Veletta Forsythe Lill, the executive director of the Dallas Arts District. “This is a cultural, civic and commercial tragedy. The Nasher is a kind of a masterpiece, and the building and the garden were perfectly designed.”

Mr. Piano said he designed the Nasher with natural light in mind. The museum has an arched glass roof with a perforated aluminum screen in an egg-crate pattern that directs the sun into the galleries, which were laid out in anticipation of the sun’s daily arc from southeast to southwest.

Now, sun, magnified by reflection, shines into the galleries from the north and raises the temperature in the sculpture garden — designed by Mr. Walker — to levels that jeopardize the specially planted live oak trees and grass.

“By doing this, they destroy completely the logic of the building,” Mr. Piano said in an interview.

For the museumgoer, the sculptures in the galleries and the garden can be obscured or distorted by distracting light patterns or glare. The museum was forced to install light-blocking panels inside the roof for a recent exhibition of works by Elliott Hundley because the reflections from the tower exceeded the acceptable light levels for the art.

Scott Johnson, the Los Angeles architect who designed Museum Tower, said he was willing to consider remedies but that the Nasher also had to be open-minded. “My responsibility is to fully vet solutions vis-à-vis Museum Tower — that’s my building,” he said. “But I can’t say sitting here now that the Nasher may not need to do something on their end.”

Museum Tower’s owners said in a statement, “All parties desire resolution to these issues as quickly as possible.”

Glare problems, of course, can cut both ways. In Los Angeles a few years ago, the architect Frank Gehry had to sandblast portions of his stainless-steel-clad Disney Concert Hall because the reflected sunlight was creating problems for residents in a nearby apartment building.

Mr. Piano, for his part, said it would be “impossible” for the museum building to make adjustments to offset the glare.

“What do you do — put a roof on the garden? You destroy everything,” he said. “They must solve the problem because they created the problem.”

Architecture experts say the owners of Museum Tower could cover its glass facade with a solar shading system that cuts the glare, at potentially considerable expense.

A regulation that set a strict limit on the reflectivity of buildings on the site expired in 2008 and was revised with more lenient restrictions, though the tower’s opponents say the building still exceeds them. Mr. Johnson said that he learned of such rules only recently through the local news media and that he hoped the conflict “ignites a larger conversation about urban communities and neighbors.”

Not everyone here, of course, views the dispute as a cataclysm. Writing in The Dallas Observer last month, the columnist Jim Schutze made light of it.

“Nothing takes our minds off this misery we call middle-class survival in America like a rich kids art fight,” he wrote. “It’s like our own little hometown Brangelina.”

Since the building that overlooks the sculpture center and its garden is using the Nasher as a selling point — prices stretch into the millions — those involved say its owners should want to keep the Nasher healthy.

“By doing this, they kill what they use to sell it,” Mr. Piano said.

The Dallas Arts District — which now includes the AT&T , Morton H. Meyerson Symphony Center and the Dallas Museum of Art — always also hoped to attract commercial projects.

“I want Museum Tower to be very successful — I want people living in that building and loving to live in that building,” said Deedie Rose, a Dallas arts philanthropist who was active in establishing the arts district. “But the Nasher has to be protected.”

The sculpture center was created by Raymond D. Nasher, a real estate developer and banker who, along with his wife, Patsy, amassed one of the world’s leading collections of Modern and contemporary sculpture. Although several cities courted the collection, Mr. Nasher, who died in 2007, decided to build and personally finance the $70 million center in Dallas, where he made his fortune.

“He gave a tremendous gift to the city,” Mayor Rawlings said, “a gift we’ve got to be good stewards of.”

Complicating matters is that the $200 million Museum Tower is owned by the Dallas Police & Fire Pension System, on whose board sit four members of the City Council.

Mayor Rawlings stepped in after the two sides failed to come to terms on their own. He appointed a “facilitator,” Tom Luce, a prominent local lawyer who served under President George W. Bush as an assistant secretary of education. The first meeting with Mr. Luce is this month.

Construction of the tower continues. And the Nasher had to remove Picasso’s “Nude Man and Woman,” an oil on canvas, to get it out of dangerous direct sunlight. (The artist James Turrell also insisted that the Nasher shut down his installation “Tending, (Blue)” because its roof aperture was meant to reveal open sky, not a skyscraper.)

Vel Hawes, a Dallas architect who served as Mr. Nasher’s representative for the design and construction of the museum, said the founder would not be happy. “I assure you,” Mr. Hawes said, “he’s not resting easy in his grave right now.”

(As an aside, why is it impossible to insert a space between paragraphs?)

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The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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^Formattting around the org has been wacky for a couple of months now. sad

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Reply #5 posted 09/03/13 3:50pm

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It's probably dangerous because it's shaped like a fat cell phone. I think it's an omen. lol

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lazycrockett said:

Avengers Assemble!!


lol

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Reply #7 posted 09/03/13 5:37pm

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jone70 said:

http://www.nytimes.com/20...ce=message

Dallas Museum Simmers in a Neighbor’s Glare

(As an aside, why is it impossible to insert a space between paragraphs?)

[Edited 9/3/13 14:31pm]


I don't understand how an architect can ignore the effects that the sun can have with his/her design. I mean...since we as kids use magnifying glasses to burn paper or insects with the sun...we KNOW that concave/convex reflection can do things with sunlight.

They both get one of these: fishslap


p.s. - do "shift+Enter" to insert a space. Usually at the start of the new paragraph.

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Tempest said:

It's probably dangerous because it's shaped like a fat cell phone. I think it's an omen. lol


wink

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Reply #9 posted 09/04/13 7:36pm

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PurpleJedi said:

I don't understand how an architect can ignore the effects that the sun can have with his/her design. I mean...since we as kids use magnifying glasses to burn paper or insects with the sun...we KNOW that concave/convex reflection can do things with sunlight.

They both get one of these: fishslap


You'd think it would be Design 101, but at the same time I feel like a lot artists and architects don't want to be bothered with practical details. They have a vision and want their vision to be realized no matter what.


At one of my previous jobs, the company hired a graphic design company to design its fall mailer -- it was a fold out poster type of thing, and the addresses were supposed to be printed directly onto one section of the folded up poster. Problem was that when I sent the file of names/addresses to the mailhouse for them to print the mailers, they couldn't because the graphic designers had used navy blue for that part of the mailer. Black ink on navy blue paper is not going to work well enough for the post office. We had to pay thousands of dollars extra for the mailhouse to print white labels and hand affix them to the mailing because no one at any point during the lengthy design process thought, "Hey, maybe we should save a white box, or use a lighter color, for the address part." (I wasn't part of the process.) It was a beautifully designed piece, just not functional.


My stupid director was annoyed with me when I pointed out how much extra that design error cost. (Even more ridiculuous was the fact that this took place at a DESIGN museum.)


p.s. - do "shift+Enter" to insert a space. Usually at the start of the new paragraph.


Thanks -- I rarely post these days and clearly am not up to speed on how to work around the latest org glitches.

The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp.
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Reply #10 posted 09/04/13 7:44pm

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Ehh ~ No worries ! Though when it gets up and starts walking around crushing other buildings ...

eek

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Reply #11 posted 09/05/13 6:47am

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jone70 said:

PurpleJedi said:

I don't understand how an architect can ignore the effects that the sun can have with his/her design. I mean...since we as kids use magnifying glasses to burn paper or insects with the sun...we KNOW that concave/convex reflection can do things with sunlight.

They both get one of these: fishslap


You'd think it would be Design 101, but at the same time I feel like a lot artists and architects don't want to be bothered with practical details. They have a vision and want their vision to be realized no matter what.


At one of my previous jobs, the company hired a graphic design company to design its fall mailer -- it was a fold out poster type of thing, and the addresses were supposed to be printed directly onto one section of the folded up poster. Problem was that when I sent the file of names/addresses to the mailhouse for them to print the mailers, they couldn't because the graphic designers had used navy blue for that part of the mailer. Black ink on navy blue paper is not going to work well enough for the post office. We had to pay thousands of dollars extra for the mailhouse to print white labels and hand affix them to the mailing because no one at any point during the lengthy design process thought, "Hey, maybe we should save a white box, or use a lighter color, for the address part." (I wasn't part of the process.) It was a beautifully designed piece, just not functional.


My stupid director was annoyed with me when I pointed out how much extra that design error cost. (Even more ridiculuous was the fact that this took place at a DESIGN museum.)

p.s. - do "shift+Enter" to insert a space. Usually at the start of the new paragraph.


Thanks -- I rarely post these days and clearly am not up to speed on how to work around the latest org glitches.


thumbs up!

I have run into architects who are SO concerned about their Design that they REFUSE to accept the fact that we have to add these "ugly" fire alarm devices to their space.
That is...until the Fire Marshal doesn't allow them to get their Certificate of Occupancy.

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Mach said:

Ehh ~ No worries ! Though when it gets up and starts walking around crushing other buildings ...

eek


lol

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