Yup here we go.

ok so I havent posted a thread in a while. So whats up? Anyway got a wuestion. So ...I posted thi on facebook. I said:

OH STRAIGHT folks get to hit on ANYBODY they want, free reign girl or boy..oh but us gays got to plot, scheme, think, congregate, conclude, add and subtract some shit out just to make sure that the person may or may not be like us just to make it worth our while.

And while some of us may be confident, we may have stigma that there will be violence may be brought to us just for the attraction. So what do you think?

Plus I'm drunk but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Answer the question, rat nah. What you doing though? Answer that too.

it's not quite like that.

one thing gays have is gayclubs, so you got to a gayclub and all guys will be interested in other guys, and likewise with girls, with a few exceptions. so if you are a gay guy you can go to another gay guy in a gay club, and being a guy yourself you know what it's like to be a gay guy, you want sex and you know the other guy wants sex. and likewise for girls

but for a straight guy to hit on a straight girl, the girl has all the power. she can fuck who she wants when she wants. pretty much any girl can go up to any guy and say "can i fuck you" and 9 out of 10 times at least the guy will say yes and fuck her. but no fucking guy in the world could possible get away with that, even brad pitt, justin beiber, tom cruise, you name it, no matter how good looking, rich and famous, a guy can't get away with that

and that's why girls are called sluts and guys are called studs for the same behavior. because it's fucking easy for a girl to fuck who she wants when she wants and become a slut, but it takes fucking hard work for a guy to be a stud. just talking to women and trying to understand what goes on in their fucking brain is a minefield. that fucking wheelchair speak and spell dude gave up on understanding women and just stuck to simple shit like understanding how the entire fucking universe works intsead, as it's far less complex, and the universe won't throw a fucking shit fit cuz it's the wrong time of the month

perhaps your deal is you aren't going to gay clubs to pick folk up and trying to pick them up on the streets or in work. that shit is hard for anyone. you don't know if they got a partner or if they are gay or what the fuck

i bet tonight, which is a saturday, you can go to a gay club and get your dick sucked by the end of the night with little trouble. you can literally stand at the bar with your back to the bar and a drink in your hand and literally say to the first guy who comes to the bar "will you suck my dick" and it won't take long for someone to say yes. imagine how fucking long i'd be standing at the bar doing that to girls if the bouncers or barmen didn't throw me out?

unique said:

but for a straight guy to hit on a straight girl, the girl has all the power. she can fuck who she wants when she wants. pretty much any girl can go up to any guy and say "can i fuck you" and 9 out of 10 times at least the guy will say yes and fuck her. but no fucking guy in the world could possible get away with that, even brad pitt, justin beiber, tom cruise, you name it, no matter how good looking, rich and famous, a guy can't get away with that

and that's why girls are called sluts and guys are called studs for the same behavior.

no, it's not... that's not why that happens at all

it's because through history men have had the real power... and women were thought of as inferior and/or possesions (of sorts).... and if a woman went against that, it made the man feel powerless, so they had to lash out

it's because a lot of men are really just chest thumping scared little boys

that's why that happens

MoBetterBliss said:

unique said:

but for a straight guy to hit on a straight girl, the girl has all the power. she can fuck who she wants when she wants. pretty much any girl can go up to any guy and say "can i fuck you" and 9 out of 10 times at least the guy will say yes and fuck her. but no fucking guy in the world could possible get away with that, even brad pitt, justin beiber, tom cruise, you name it, no matter how good looking, rich and famous, a guy can't get away with that

and that's why girls are called sluts and guys are called studs for the same behavior.

no, it's not... that's not why that happens at all

it's because through history men have had the real power... and women were thought of as inferior and/or possesions (of sorts).... and if a woman went against that, it made the man feel powerless, so they had to lash out

it's because a lot of men are really just chest thumping scared little boys

that's why that happens

no, you are wrong

women have the power, not men. what's worse is that women have convinced the world that men have the power instead of women. it's women who say who let's to fuck them and make them pregnant. it's women who bring life into the world, not men

MoBetterBliss said:

unique said:

but for a straight guy to hit on a straight girl, the girl has all the power. she can fuck who she wants when she wants. pretty much any girl can go up to any guy and say "can i fuck you" and 9 out of 10 times at least the guy will say yes and fuck her. but no fucking guy in the world could possible get away with that, even brad pitt, justin beiber, tom cruise, you name it, no matter how good looking, rich and famous, a guy can't get away with that

and that's why girls are called sluts and guys are called studs for the same behavior.

no, it's not... that's not why that happens at all

it's because through history men have had the real power... and women were thought of as inferior and/or possesions (of sorts).... and if a woman went against that, it made the man feel powerless, so they had to lash out

it's because a lot of men are really just chest thumping scared little boys

that's why that happens

No man, the men have never really had the power. Tney just did all they could to take it away from the woman.

OK, I'm drunk too

serious tho', woman is the birthgiver and the caretaker. That is essential.

Birth and Care as in spiritual birth & care also. Can't have that when it means men is inferior. So you are right men lashed out and took the power away. But with laws and culture. Not in truth. Sooner or later, the Balance will be restored.

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ZombieKitten said:

Straight men should just get over themselves and have sex with other men, problem solved - they can get as slutty as they want with each other Straight men want what they can't really have (lots of sex with random girls) Straight women don't really want what they might easily be able to get (lots of sex with random guys)

and that's the problem with women. they know what they don't want, but the don't know what they do want. or at least they don't tell guys what the want. we gotta fucking guessing game to figure out what a woman wants. no wonder women don't get what they want if they don't tell us what it is

ZombieKitten said:

Straight men should just get over themselves and have sex with other men, problem solved - they can get as slutty as they want with each other Straight men want what they can't really have (lots of sex with random girls) Straight women don't really want what they might easily be able to get (lots of sex with random guys)

unique said:

no wonder women don't get what they want if they don't tell us what it is

When they do tell us what it is they change their minds anyway. You can't win.

I'm not having that 'lifegiver' twaddle either Trem. Try popping one out without a man.

Fonkyman said:

unique said:

no wonder women don't get what they want if they don't tell us what it is

When they do tell us what it is they change their minds anyway. You can't win.

I'm not having that 'lifegiver' twaddle either Trem. Try popping one out without a man.

Try popping one out as a man

You are right of course, where would the women be without us men!

Tremolina said:

Fonkyman said:

When they do tell us what it is they change their minds anyway. You can't win.

I'm not having that 'lifegiver' twaddle either Trem. Try popping one out without a man.

Try popping one out as a man

You are right of course, where would the women be without us men!

i thought you were a woman!

you learn something new each day!

Tremolina said:

Try popping one out as a man

unique said:

ZombieKitten said:

Straight men should just get over themselves and have sex with other men, problem solved - they can get as slutty as they want with each other Straight men want what they can't really have (lots of sex with random girls) Straight women don't really want what they might easily be able to get (lots of sex with random guys)

and that's the problem with women. they know what they don't want, but the don't know what they do want. or at least they don't tell guys what the want. we gotta fucking guessing game to figure out what a woman wants. no wonder women don't get what they want if they don't tell us what it is

I don't think it's that difficult. To get a woman going she must feel desired by a man she is attracted to and desires in return - when the right guy fits the bill, we know exactly what we want (this is how it is for me anyway - I know there are women out there who have the hots for guys who aren't attracted to them at all). I'm just talking about sex here, nothing more (I'm not even going into OTHER forces at work like fear of being seen as a slut and other societal pressures, self-esteem issues etc )

A man can easily feel desire for a woman who isn't attracted to him - like the boner is just there, right? and even if he ISN'T really that attracted the boner can also make an appearance - it's like a lack of discernment.

Oh my god I forgot I did this thread!

unique said:

it's not quite like that.

one thing gays have is gayclubs, so you got to a gayclub and all guys will be interested in other guys, and likewise with girls, with a few exceptions. so if you are a gay guy you can go to another gay guy in a gay club, and being a guy yourself you know what it's like to be a gay guy, you want sex and you know the other guy wants sex. and likewise for girls

but for a straight guy to hit on a straight girl, the girl has all the power. she can fuck who she wants when she wants. pretty much any girl can go up to any guy and say "can i fuck you" and 9 out of 10 times at least the guy will say yes and fuck her. but no fucking guy in the world could possible get away with that, even brad pitt, justin beiber, tom cruise, you name it, no matter how good looking, rich and famous, a guy can't get away with that

and that's why girls are called sluts and guys are called studs for the same behavior. because it's fucking easy for a girl to fuck who she wants when she wants and become a slut, but it takes fucking hard work for a guy to be a stud. just talking to women and trying to understand what goes on in their fucking brain is a minefield. that fucking wheelchair speak and spell dude gave up on understanding women and just stuck to simple shit like understanding how the entire fucking universe works intsead, as it's far less complex, and the universe won't throw a fucking shit fit cuz it's the wrong time of the month

perhaps your deal is you aren't going to gay clubs to pick folk up and trying to pick them up on the streets or in work. that shit is hard for anyone. you don't know if they got a partner or if they are gay or what the fuck

i bet tonight, which is a saturday, you can go to a gay club and get your dick sucked by the end of the night with little trouble. you can literally stand at the bar with your back to the bar and a drink in your hand and literally say to the first guy who comes to the bar "will you suck my dick" and it won't take long for someone to say yes. imagine how fucking long i'd be standing at the bar doing that to girls if the bouncers or barmen didn't throw me out?

I read all the posts in here and you are right. It's easy to get sex and all in a gay club but what about the people outside of that? Lots of gay guys dont go to bars or even like to drink, that are hot. I know alot of them..sometime gay guys are masculine acting and don't give off a femenine persona outside of a bar, thats what I am attracted to....however because some of those guys are like that it is hard to choose.

There are femenine acting dudes as well (like a coworker) who is straight with kids but switches harder than Rupaul on Broadway.

AND I think women DO have the power in the game! I always said if I was a girl for one day i'd be fucking every cute dude I see walking down the street..however...damn thinking about the vag getting beat and abused like that makes me want to think...yeah no. Bad idea.

Pussy holds the key . A girls vagina must be kept nice and cute that's probably why they are cautious, where us dudes...our dicks dont change shapes and sizes after anytime so we can just go ahead and use our tools without care (with protection of course). But a woman has to go through some things...thinking about time of the month, and accidental babies and inflamed labia..nobody got time for that.

unique said:

Tremolina said:

Try popping one out as a man

You are right of course, where would the women be without us men!

i thought you were a woman!

you learn something new each day!

I really am a woman but don't tell anyone

Drunk huh? Wish I had been around that night. I was drunk too. I would have seen if I could have taken advantage of you.

unique said:

it's not quite like that.

one thing gays have is gayclubs, so you got to a gayclub and all guys will be interested in other guys, and likewise with girls, with a few exceptions. so if you are a gay guy you can go to another gay guy in a gay club, and being a guy yourself you know what it's like to be a gay guy, you want sex and you know the other guy wants sex. and likewise for girls

but for a straight guy to hit on a straight girl, the girl has all the power. she can fuck who she wants when she wants. pretty much any girl can go up to any guy and say "can i fuck you" and 9 out of 10 times at least the guy will say yes and fuck her. but no fucking guy in the world could possible get away with that, even brad pitt, justin beiber, tom cruise, you name it, no matter how good looking, rich and famous, a guy can't get away with that

and that's why girls are called sluts and guys are called studs for the same behavior. because it's fucking easy for a girl to fuck who she wants when she wants and become a slut, but it takes fucking hard work for a guy to be a stud. just talking to women and trying to understand what goes on in their fucking brain is a minefield. that fucking wheelchair speak and spell dude gave up on understanding women and just stuck to simple shit like understanding how the entire fucking universe works intsead, as it's far less complex, and the universe won't throw a fucking shit fit cuz it's the wrong time of the month

perhaps your deal is you aren't going to gay clubs to pick folk up and trying to pick them up on the streets or in work. that shit is hard for anyone. you don't know if they got a partner or if they are gay or what the fuck

i bet tonight, which is a saturday, you can go to a gay club and get your dick sucked by the end of the night with little trouble. you can literally stand at the bar with your back to the bar and a drink in your hand and literally say to the first guy who comes to the bar "will you suck my dick" and it won't take long for someone to say yes. imagine how fucking long i'd be standing at the bar doing that to girls if the bouncers or barmen didn't throw me out?

Wrong. It's not that easy at all. Many gay men go home dickless from a gay club at the end of the night. Sometimes you're lucky and sometimes you're not.

There is danger inside a gay club also. You got these rough trade bastards that come in there and harass the lipstick lesbians all night long trying to get with them, and totally disrepecting their butch girlfriends all up in their face for even being up in there and trying to get with them right up in their faces. Gay men have been hurt and sometimes killed when they approach this trash just like if they were in a straight club and approached a straight man. However, 99% of these men are not straight (their warped brains think they are straight though) and once the lesbians turn them down all night, because only the crackhead ones even give these men the time of day, then these men approach the drag queens for sex (in total secret of course) and their last resort for the evening is just a normal gay man which is also in total secret. It's a total rediculous scene with them and I have also said numerous times for years and years, I don't know why the gay people in the club don't just all gang up and beat the hell out of these bastards for disrespecting us in our own clubs.

There are also many nights that is very common to walk into the club and there will be nothing but a house full of sissies up in there and I don't do fish, nor are they interested in me either. We're the same thing looking for a manly, or at least halfway, manly man. Plus, in a gay club, it's usually the same people there night after night so you've eventually either had everyone that you want, or there are the ones that you want that don't want you. It doesn't take long to go through all your choices.

But the biggest problem, is there is no variety of gay clubs. They all look like The Mickey Mouse club these days. Hardly anybody over 25 in them these days. And you have two choices, shit hop in the black club and trance in the white club. Well, I forgot, now there's four gay clubs, two black and two white, but they're still the same choices as before. Straight people have a variety of clubs for all age groups ranging from all styles of music.

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vainandy said:

unique said:

it's not quite like that.

one thing gays have is gayclubs, so you got to a gayclub and all guys will be interested in other guys, and likewise with girls, with a few exceptions. so if you are a gay guy you can go to another gay guy in a gay club, and being a guy yourself you know what it's like to be a gay guy, you want sex and you know the other guy wants sex. and likewise for girls

but for a straight guy to hit on a straight girl, the girl has all the power. she can fuck who she wants when she wants. pretty much any girl can go up to any guy and say "can i fuck you" and 9 out of 10 times at least the guy will say yes and fuck her. but no fucking guy in the world could possible get away with that, even brad pitt, justin beiber, tom cruise, you name it, no matter how good looking, rich and famous, a guy can't get away with that

and that's why girls are called sluts and guys are called studs for the same behavior. because it's fucking easy for a girl to fuck who she wants when she wants and become a slut, but it takes fucking hard work for a guy to be a stud. just talking to women and trying to understand what goes on in their fucking brain is a minefield. that fucking wheelchair speak and spell dude gave up on understanding women and just stuck to simple shit like understanding how the entire fucking universe works intsead, as it's far less complex, and the universe won't throw a fucking shit fit cuz it's the wrong time of the month

perhaps your deal is you aren't going to gay clubs to pick folk up and trying to pick them up on the streets or in work. that shit is hard for anyone. you don't know if they got a partner or if they are gay or what the fuck

i bet tonight, which is a saturday, you can go to a gay club and get your dick sucked by the end of the night with little trouble. you can literally stand at the bar with your back to the bar and a drink in your hand and literally say to the first guy who comes to the bar "will you suck my dick" and it won't take long for someone to say yes. imagine how fucking long i'd be standing at the bar doing that to girls if the bouncers or barmen didn't throw me out?

Wrong. It's not that easy at all. Many gay men go home dickless from a gay club at the end of the night. Sometimes you're lucky and sometimes you're not.

There is danger inside a gay club also. You got these rough trade bastards that come in there and harass the lipstick lesbians all night long trying to get with them, and totally disrepecting their butch girlfriends all up in their face for even being up in there and trying to get with them right up in their faces. Gay men have been hurt and sometimes killed when they approach this trash just like if they were in a straight club and approached a straight man. However, 99% of these men are not straight (their warped brains think they are straight though) and once the lesbians turn them down all night, because only the crackhead ones even give these men the time of day, then these men approach the drag queens for sex (in total secret of course) and their last resort for the evening is just a normal gay man which is also in total secret. It's a total rediculous scene with them and I have also said numerous times for years and years, I don't know why the gay people in the club don't just all gang up and beat the hell out of these bastards for disrespecting us in our own clubs.

There are also many nights that is very common to walk into the club and there will be nothing but a house full of sissies up in there and I don't do fish, nor are they interested in me either. We're the same thing looking for a manly, or at least halfway, manly man. Plus, in a gay club, it's usually the same people there night after night so you've eventually either had everyone that you want, or there are the ones that you want that don't want you. It doesn't take long to go through all your choices.

But the biggest problem, is there is no variety of gay clubs. They all look like The Mickey Mouse club these days. Hardly anybody over 25 in them these days. And you have two choices, shit hop in the black club and trance in the white club. Well, I forgot, now there's four gay clubs, two black and two white, but they're still the same choices as before. Straight people have a variety of clubs for all age groups ranging from all styles of music.

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[Edited 5/13/13 11:34am]

i'm not wrong. you are wrong. try reading what the fuck i posted

unique said:

vainandy said:

Wrong. It's not that easy at all. Many gay men go home dickless from a gay club at the end of the night. Sometimes you're lucky and sometimes you're not.

There is danger inside a gay club also. You got these rough trade bastards that come in there and harass the lipstick lesbians all night long trying to get with them, and totally disrepecting their butch girlfriends all up in their face for even being up in there and trying to get with them right up in their faces. Gay men have been hurt and sometimes killed when they approach this trash just like if they were in a straight club and approached a straight man. However, 99% of these men are not straight (their warped brains think they are straight though) and once the lesbians turn them down all night, because only the crackhead ones even give these men the time of day, then these men approach the drag queens for sex (in total secret of course) and their last resort for the evening is just a normal gay man which is also in total secret. It's a total rediculous scene with them and I have also said numerous times for years and years, I don't know why the gay people in the club don't just all gang up and beat the hell out of these bastards for disrespecting us in our own clubs.

There are also many nights that is very common to walk into the club and there will be nothing but a house full of sissies up in there and I don't do fish, nor are they interested in me either. We're the same thing looking for a manly, or at least halfway, manly man. Plus, in a gay club, it's usually the same people there night after night so you've eventually either had everyone that you want, or there are the ones that you want that don't want you. It doesn't take long to go through all your choices.

But the biggest problem, is there is no variety of gay clubs. They all look like The Mickey Mouse club these days. Hardly anybody over 25 in them these days. And you have two choices, shit hop in the black club and trance in the white club. Well, I forgot, now there's four gay clubs, two black and two white, but they're still the same choices as before. Straight people have a variety of clubs for all age groups ranging from all styles of music.

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[Edited 5/13/13 11:34am]

i'm not wrong. you are wrong. try reading what the fuck i posted

I'm wrong? I've been in these clubs for 23 years. Have you? And I read what you posted and I responded.

vainandy said:

unique said:

i'm not wrong. you are wrong. try reading what the fuck i posted

I'm wrong? I've been in these clubs for 23 years. Have you? And I read what you posted and I responded.

try reading again, and have a read at the thread title and first post to put it in context

unique said:

vainandy said:

I'm wrong? I've been in these clubs for 23 years. Have you? And I read what you posted and I responded.

try reading again, and have a read at the thread title and first post to put it in context

I read it and the thread is about straight people being able to flirt with and possibly pick up someone of the opposite sex anywhere they choose while gay people don't have that luxury. I simply responded to your post that the gay club is simply the cure-all to that problem which is not true at all because just like straight clubs, just because you're in there, does not guarantee you will get lucky each and every time you go out. We have our picks and chooses just like everyone else. And furthermore, gay clubs are not even around for those that live in rural areas and even in the cities, there is not the variety of clubs that straight people have. But straight men do have the luxury of flirting with and possibly picking a woman up at any place, any time, and anywhere without the possibility of violence, or even murder if he does so. Now, if he's crazy enough to flirt with a woman in front of her husband or boyfriend, yeah, he's at risk, but most men have better sense than that. And as for whether the woman responds to his flirting or gives him the time of day, well, that's just a matter if she wants him or not. We have that same problem too but a woman isn't going to kill a man for flirting with her in public. So yes, I am very much on topic with the thread and also responding that the gay club is not the cure-all to that problem.

I love this idea that any almost any woman can go up to almost any man and say, "Wanna fuck?" and get a yes. Sure, whatever.

vainandy said:

unique said:

try reading again, and have a read at the thread title and first post to put it in context

I read it and the thread is about straight people being able to flirt with and possibly pick up someone of the opposite sex anywhere they choose while gay people don't have that luxury. I simply responded to your post that the gay club is simply the cure-all to that problem which is not true at all because just like straight clubs, just because you're in there, does not guarantee you will get lucky each and every time you go out. We have our picks and chooses just like everyone else. And furthermore, gay clubs are not even around for those that live in rural areas and even in the cities, there is not the variety of clubs that straight people have. But straight men do have the luxury of flirting with and possibly picking a woman up at any place, any time, and anywhere without the possibility of violence, or even murder if he does so. Now, if he's crazy enough to flirt with a woman in front of her husband or boyfriend, yeah, he's at risk, but most men have better sense than that. And as for whether the woman responds to his flirting or gives him the time of day, well, that's just a matter if she wants him or not. We have that same problem too but a woman isn't going to kill a man for flirting with her in public. So yes, I am very much on topic with the thread and also responding that the gay club is not the cure-all to that problem.

well if that's what you read from my post, you are wrong