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Thread started 11/16/12 6:33am

2freaky4church
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Hostess out of business! Say goodbye to the twinkie.

According to the ceo Hostess, the main baker of awful snack treats is going out of business. He blames the bakers unions, but it's bad business and the obvious trend towards good eating.

So, goodbye twinkies, goodbye ding dongs, goodbye snowballs. I grew up on this shit.

I do smell something fishy here.

I won't miss it.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #1 posted 11/16/12 8:08am

ColAngus

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Around here , we also have "tastycakes" ... I was shocked to hear these treats are NOT all over the US ... but ...

HOSTESS was never my fav ... just did NOT like the flavors ...

but the RIGHT WING RADIO GEEKS are loving the UNION drivin business into the hellish economy , heard about 3 min of sean Rattity yesterday ...

cool cool

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Reply #2 posted 11/16/12 8:12am

RodeoSchro

I haven't said "Hello!" to a Twinkie in about 20 years, so that could be why they're going out of business.

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Reply #3 posted 11/16/12 9:18am

Timmy84

Good riddance.

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Reply #4 posted 11/16/12 9:23am

PurpleJedi

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doh!

Did I jack your thread???

boxed

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Reply #5 posted 11/16/12 11:37am

morningsong

I have never liked twinkies, not even as a kid, they were gross to me.

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Reply #6 posted 11/16/12 11:48am

uniden

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morningsong said:

I have never liked twinkies, not even as a kid, they were gross to me.

me too!

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Reply #7 posted 11/16/12 12:03pm

NDRU

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Every once in a while I get a craving for some twinkies, and then I am overwhelmed by their sweetness. Yech!

I should go get some now! woot!

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Reply #8 posted 11/16/12 12:04pm

NDRU

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I would not be at all surprised if this was a marketing ploy to get us all to buy some twinkies

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Reply #9 posted 11/16/12 12:06pm

Timmy84

NDRU said:

I would not be at all surprised if this was a marketing ploy to get us all to buy some twinkies

Everything is lol

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Reply #10 posted 11/16/12 12:33pm

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Look at this bullshit:

http://hostessbrands.com/Closing.aspx

A convenient way to kill unions. Fuckers. The feds should not let them use bankruptcy.

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #11 posted 11/16/12 12:59pm

morningsong

^ oh you're just trying to get this moved to p&r, aren't you?

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Reply #12 posted 11/16/12 1:01pm

RodeoSchro

2freaky4church1 said:

Look at this bullshit:

http://hostessbrands.com/Closing.aspx

A convenient way to kill unions. Fuckers. The feds should not let them use bankruptcy.

I think this is the Bakers' union's fault. The Teamsters took the payroll deal offered, and begged the Bakers Union to take. Management begged the Bakers Union to take it. The Bakers Union wanted to play chicken, and lost.

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Reply #13 posted 11/16/12 2:06pm

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RodeoSchro said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Look at this bullshit:

http://hostessbrands.com/Closing.aspx

A convenient way to kill unions. Fuckers. The feds should not let them use bankruptcy.

I think this is the Bakers' union's fault. The Teamsters took the payroll deal offered, and begged the Bakers Union to take. Management begged the Bakers Union to take it. The Bakers Union wanted to play chicken, and lost.

That's what I got from the story.

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Reply #14 posted 11/16/12 2:07pm

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Blame the fucked up economy for this. neutral

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Reply #15 posted 11/16/12 2:12pm

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I don't do twinkies. Give me the ding dongs and the snow balls.

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[Edited 11/16/12 14:13pm]

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #16 posted 11/16/12 2:20pm

SoulAlive

I never liked Twinkies,but I like all the other stuff that Hostess made.

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Reply #17 posted 11/16/12 2:21pm

SoulAlive

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Reply #18 posted 11/16/12 2:25pm

Gunsnhalen

Now what will i use for foreplay with my vietnamese lover confused

Guess i gotta buy a fucking dildo now.

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Reply #19 posted 11/16/12 2:34pm

RodeoSchro

vainandy said:

I don't do twinkies. Give me the ding dongs and the snow balls.

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[Edited 11/16/12 14:13pm]

falloff

Andy, you are the BEST!

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Reply #20 posted 11/16/12 3:28pm

SPYZFAN1

Sorry that the workers will lose their jobs, but Hostess went downhill after they stopped making the pudding pies, Ho-Ho's and Choco-diles.....The last time I had a Suzy Q (many years ago) it tasted awful.

At least Entenmann's will still be around.

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Reply #21 posted 11/16/12 3:58pm

aardvark15

Gunsnhalen said:

Now what will i use for foreplay with my vietnamese lover confused

Guess i gotta buy a fucking dildo now.

eek Damn you're kinkier than I thought

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Reply #22 posted 11/16/12 4:02pm

Gunsnhalen

aardvark15 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Now what will i use for foreplay with my vietnamese lover confused

Guess i gotta buy a fucking dildo now.

eek Damn you're kinkier than I thought

what!!!! i'm a good southern christian boy beg

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Reply #23 posted 11/16/12 4:06pm

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SPYZFAN1 said:

Sorry that the workers will lose their jobs, but Hostess went downhill after they stopped making the pudding pies, Ho-Ho's and Choco-diles.....The last time I had a Suzy Q (many years ago) it tasted awful.

At least Entenmann's will still be around.

CHOCO-DILES!!!!!

drool

I loved those as a kid.

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Reply #24 posted 11/16/12 4:07pm

aardvark15

Gunsnhalen said:

aardvark15 said:

eek Damn you're kinkier than I thought

what!!!! i'm a good southern christian boy beg

So you do roleplay too? lol

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Reply #25 posted 11/16/12 4:08pm

free2bfreeda

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i have to admit, at one time i luved:

mostly in the summer, i'd buy them and put them bad-boys in my freezer. after the froze they tasted so good. yup bad additives and all.

however, i reformed and stopped buying them about 3yrs ago. they didn't go so well with my wardrobe, especially my jeans - if you get my jest.

too bad hostess co is going out of business. i feel sad for those being left unemployed.

just in:

What happens if Twinkies really do go away?

Let's not panic. We all know that Twinkies, Ding Dongs, Wonder bread and the rest of Hostess Brands' oddly everlasting foods aren't going away any time soon, even if the food culture that created them is gasping its last.

Yes, Hostess is shutting down. And odds seem to favor the roughly century-old company disappearing from our corporate landscape. But before you rush out to stockpile a strategic Twinkie reserve, consider a few things. Namely, that Twinkies never die. You know full well that the snack cakes down at your corner 7-Eleven are going to outlive us all. Probably even after they've been consumed.

And then there's the acquisition-happy nature of the business world, an environment that increasingly prizes intellectual property above all. It's hard to imagine the fading away of brands as storied and valuable as Ho Hos, Ring Dings and Yodels. Within hours of announcing the closure Friday, the company already had put out word that Zingers, Fruit Pies and all the other brands were up for grabs.

Even if production really did stop, how long do you think it would take for some enterprising investor intoxicated by a cocktail of nostalgia and irony for the treats Mom used to pack in his G.I. Joe lunch box to find a way to roll out commemorative Twinkies? Special edition holiday Ho Hos? It's just the nature of our product-centered world. Brands don't die, even when perhaps they should.

But let's pretend for a moment they did. What would we lose if Twinkies fell off the culinary cliff?

Certainly few obesity-minded nutritionists would bemoan the loss. With some 500 million Twinkies produced a year, each packing 150 calories... Well, let's just leave it by saying that shaving 75 billion calories from the American diet sure could add up to a whole lot of skinny jeans.

Except that Twinkies aren't merely a snack cake, nor just junk food. They are iconic in ways that transcend how Americans typically fetishize food. But ultimately, they fell victim to the very fervor that created them.

Despite the many urban legends about the indestructability of Twinkies — Did you know they are made with the same chemical used in embalming? Or that they last 5, no 15, no 50 years? — and the many sadly true stories about the atrocious ingredients used to create them today, these treats once upon a time were the real deal.

They started out back in 1930, an era when people actually paid attention to seasonality in foods. James A. Dewar, who worked at Hostess predecessor Continental Baking Company in Schiller, Ill., wanted to find a way to use the bakery's shortbread pans year round. You see, the shortbread was filled with strawberries, but strawberries were only available for a few weeks a year.

So he used the oblong pans to bake spongecakes, which he then filled with banana cream. Bananas were a more regular crop.

Let's pause so you can wrap your mind around that for a moment. Twinkies once contained real fruit. Twinkies were created because of seasonality.

All went swimmingly until World War II hit and rationing meant — say it with me — Yes! We have no bananas. And so was born the vanilla cream Twinkie, which was vastly more popular anyway. Even then, there was a crafted element to these treats. The filling was added by hand using a foot pedal-powered pump. Pump too hard and the Twinkies exploded. These days you only see that when teenagers post YouTube videos of themselves microwaving them.

It was around this time that American food culture did an about face. It was an era when the industrialization and processing of cheap food wasn't just desired, it was glorified. Cans and chemicals could set you free. And they certainly set Twinkies free of the nuisance of a short shelf life. It's not formaldehyde that keeps these snack cakes feeling fresh, it's the lack of any dairy products in the so-called "cream."

"Something about it just absolutely grabbed the popular culture imagination," says Marion Nestle, a New York University professor of nutrition and food studies — and no fan of junk food. "It's the prototypical indestructible junk food. It was the sort of height to which American technological ingenuity could go to create a product that was almost entirely artificial, but gave the appearance of eclairs."

When Twinkies signed on as a sponsor of the "Howdy Doody" show during the 1950s, their cultural legacy was sealed. Taglines such as "The snacks with a snack in the middle" began etching themselves into generations of young minds and it was considered perfectly fine that Twinkie the Kid would lasso and drag children before stuffing his sugar bombs in their faces.

It was the snack cake heyday. Twinkies were being deep-fried at state fairs, doing cameos in movies like "Ghost Busters" and "Die Hard" and being pushed by Spider-Man in comic books. A pre-vegan President Bill Clinton even signed off on including Twinkies in the nation's millennium time capsule (the two-pack was later removed and consumed by his council overseeing such matters for fear mice would add themselves to the time capsule).

Sure, not all the attention was positive. Somewhere along the line, Twinkies became the butt of jokes, mostly about their perceived longevity (though Hostess staunchly maintains 25 days is the max). And not all associations were great. The so-called "Twinkie defense" came out of the 1979 murder trial of Dan White, whose lawyers included his junk food obsession among the evidence of his supposed altered state of mind.

Then something happened. Suddenly, Americans who for decades had been tone deaf to how food was produced suddenly started paying attention, seeking out organic goat cheeses made from the milk of an unoppressed herd raised on a fence-free collective within a 20-mile radius of home. Even Doritos went artisanal, and an awareness of seasons and availability crept back into the culinary consciousness.

Suddenly products that had so prospered by their artificiality lost their allure. Even Hostess, which blamed this week's shutdown mostly on a labor dispute that hobbled its facilities, has acknowledged that consumer concern about health and food quality changed the game. People just weren't buying snack cakes like they used to.

So what would we lose if Twinkies really did go away? From a culinary standpoint and from a nutritional standpoint, it's hard to love the Twinkie (or pretty much any Hostess product). It's hard not to wonder how the American diet, the American palate, would be different if the parents of the '50s hadn't begun a cycle of turning to processed packages as the de facto snack of childhood.

And does nostalgia alone justify the continuation of something so patently bad for us?

Of course nostalgia, even irony, taste awfully good.

And I notice that a growing number of — dare I say it — artisanal bakeries are going retro, creating their own inspired takes on classic processed snack cakes. Treats like the red velvet "twinkies" at New York's Lulu Cake Boutique. Real ingredients. So perhaps it isn't time for Twinkies to go away. Or to stay the same. Maybe it's time for them to go back to their roots. And then, we lose nothing.

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[Edited 11/16/12 16:18pm]

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Reply #26 posted 11/16/12 4:15pm

Gunsnhalen

aardvark15 said:

Gunsnhalen said:

what!!!! i'm a good southern christian boy beg

So you do roleplay too? lol

I'm a big strong man.. so sometimes i reoplay as the Hulk.....

And on soothing nights put on some dreads & be like Stevie Wonder...

For those really freaky nights i'll get that R. Kelly wet blanket out if u know what i mean. But it's someone of my age or older.

kfc

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Reply #27 posted 11/16/12 4:21pm

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The ONLY thing I'll miss from that company...

and NOT because of the cake... but that damn orange icing!!! drooling

It pairs so well with Doritoes!!!

wilted

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Reply #28 posted 11/16/12 4:29pm

Gunsnhalen

paintedlady said:

The ONLY thing I'll miss from that company...

and NOT because of the cake... but that damn orange icing!!! drooling

It pairs so well with Doritoes!!!

wilted

sad that shit was bomb!

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Reply #29 posted 11/16/12 4:37pm

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RodeoSchro said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Look at this bullshit:

http://hostessbrands.com/Closing.aspx

A convenient way to kill unions. Fuckers. The feds should not let them use bankruptcy.

I think this is the Bakers' union's fault. The Teamsters took the payroll deal offered, and begged the Bakers Union to take. Management begged the Bakers Union to take it. The Bakers Union wanted to play chicken, and lost.

Right...how dare the workers not want a pay cut, when the CEO and other executives were getting pay increases.

http://thinkprogress.org/...?mobile=nc

as the company was preparing to file for bankruptcy earlier this year, the then CEO of Hostess was awarded a 300 percent raise (from approximately $750,000 to $2,550,000) and at least nine other top executives of the company received massive pay raises. One such executive received a pay increase from $500,000 to $900,000 and another received one taking his salary from $375,000 to $656,256.

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