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Boardwalk Empire S3 Epi#7: Sunday Best (Spoilers) Synopsis: During a family reunion on Easter Sunday, Eli attempts to improve Nucky's opinion of him; with Richard and Tommy away for the day, Gillian tries to better her future with a sacrifice; Gyp looks to get Joe Masseria's blessing.
Loved loved loved this episode!!!
Loved to see how Eli and Nucky are finally resolving their issues and how their families came together. I almost thought that Nucky and Margaret would reconnect...but didn't happen. Wished it would had but that's almost like being right.
Loved loved loved seeing Richard and Tommy together...but Richard most of all. I have a major crush on Richard started from day one but it keeps growing. Seems like he and little lady may be getting together. Loved it when Richard threatened to kill old man when he had his hands on Tommy.
Damn Gyp, did he really have to go and rob the church in order to pay the boss? That man. So now there will be a major war. Interesting to see how this will turn out. It was funny to see how the only people who can talk to Gyp in a sarcastic and smart mouthed way is his mother and sisters (I guess they were his mother and sisters).
Gillian, my goodness.
And where's Chalky? He's only been in about two episodes this season..wtf is up with that?
Dang we are on episode 7 already? This season is flying! [Edited 10/29/12 4:55am] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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I cannot stand Gillian...
Margaret: Why don't I feel sorry for her?
I really like Richard. He deserves to be happy...
I can't think of anything PC to say about Gyp's family. "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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Well Gillan doesn't sit with a full deck which is why she's dangerous. And I mean we are talking about a woman obsessed with having a romantic relationship with her OWN SON. Eww. No wonder Jimmy used to be so conflicted internally. I'm wondering exactly how long Richard is going to stay in that house. I get the feeling that they are setting it up for him to eventually be Tommy's guardian.
I know why you don't feel sorry for her, because Margaret is always talking about how Nucky has wronged her. Nucky has a mistress, Nucky blames her, Nucky barely talks to her, Nucky doesn't fuck her, Nucky doesn't spend time at home, Nucky is involved with dangerous business affairs...blah blah blah. Boo fucking hoo. Yet Margaret failed to mention to her sister in law, while she was so called "venting", was how she's screwing Nucky's right hand man, how she stole from Nucky on a continuous basis, how she signed over his land to the hospital behind his back, how she manipulates to get what she wants and finally how she left behind a life where she would had been sane yet poor for a life where she has access to luxuries while feeling lonely and conflicted with herself all the time. Margaret isn't fooling anyone, her unhappiness was brought on by herself. She even had a chance to settle things and let bygones be bygones when it seemed that Nucky was finally going to open to her (when he offered to teach her how to juggle) but she shut him down which, of course, is going to make him go right back to shut down mode and continuing to do what he's currently doing. At times, I don't even think Margaret really wants things to change so that she can have an excuse to project her unhappiness on.
I'm not saying that Nucky is innocent, I'm just saying that Margaret is responsible for her own unhappiness. And she's going to get Owen killed with her shananigans.
[Edited 10/29/12 5:57am] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Okay I stand corrected, according to the HBO website, that was Gyp's wife and mother-in-law at the table. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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That's even sadder! "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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A subtle but effective episode, setting the table for big moves in the next few episodes. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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Maragret said it was too late for that. It was her answer to Nucky about learning to juggle, but she clearly meant it was too late to repair their marriage. Sad. | |
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In Maragret's defense, I always thought she felt deceived. It was only after she got involved with Nucky that she found out the full extent of his illegal activities including having her husband killed. It's true she could have walked away then, but perhaps she thought she could redeem him like giving his land to the church. She told Owen in the previous epiosde that she had been doing what she thought was right and yet she still finds herself in the situation she's in--a marriage with an unfaithful gangster husband, struggling with a pyromaniac son (thanks to Nucky) and having an affair with her husband's enforcer. | |
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well, this episode finally was not so "boring" as the previous ones imo.
this episode proved to be very pre-halloween in content and maybe each scene should have been subtitled as:
1. "easter time at the thompsons" a. with visions of guns and eggs, and promises of eli's continued employment, and uncle nucky giving eli a handsup.
2. "chapel of scathing self pity" via the "gyp," - a man cow-towed and rendered into milk-toast by his wife a. humble caring priest get's *itch-slapped and robbed
3. "the psychotic - incestious - gillian" of the leaky roofed brothel a. see her as she snakily manipulates a (jimmy look-a-like) innocent rogue into the tube of heroin laced death.
4. "the kind, gentle and fierce masked man" a. richard the lonely meets a down to earth woman - while he puts his life on the line for little tommy
5. "meek manipulative manic-depressive margaret" a. finds comfort horizontally with owen the brave, while she guilties her self into oblivion
it's about time the writers start pulling back the layers and bringing some true suspense to 'boardwalk empire'. - i'm finally looking forward to the next episode with an intensity.
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Yeah I know, but what it really meant was that it was too late for HER to participate in repairing their marriage...but why? What had she done previously to make things work with Nucky? If she really wanted it to work, then she would put in more effort for it to work instead of blabbing her marital business to those who will listen. [Edited 10/29/12 12:59pm] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Yes but she had to take responsibility for her actions as well. That's exactly what I'm saying. She's placing full blame on Nucky for things gone wrong but she's done her dirt too. If she feels deceived then its from her own doing. As you said, she could have walked away, but she didn't, why? Because she knew what kind of life she would have being poor as opposed to being with Nucky and having the "must haves" and that's the life she chose. Nucky's actions didn't force her to sleep with Owen, she did that on her own. Instead of talking to Nucky about their problems and trying to find a way to repair it, she's constantly going outside looking for answers. Talking to her sister in law about her problems and sleeping with her husband's enforcer isn't exactly how you handle your marital issues. Now I'm in no way saying that Nucky is any better, I'm just saying that it seems that she isn't taking any responsiblity for her actions and acting like the victim. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Giving Nucky's land away and trying to get him involved with the church is what Maragret had done previously to try to repair their marriage. She obvioulsy feels their problems stem from his illegal activities.
And telling one person in a moment of weakness is not blabbing her business to those who will listen.
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I think these things happened after she gave up hope. She stayed with Nucky feeling she could change him. She also had her kids to think about for whom Nucky was a good provider. | |
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Ummm Margaret clearly knew he was involved with illegal activities BEFORE she married him so why would she think he would change? His illegal activities wasn't a problem for her when he moved her into his lavish home and she was able to stop working at the boutique...so why now is it a problem for her? She didn't even want to give the staff pay raises after Nucky instructed her to do so. You keep forgetting that Margaret is a great manipulator, just as good a manipulator, if not better, than Nucky.
And yes venting to others about your personal affairs actually is blabbing your business to others. They wouldn't know anything unless you opened your mouth about your business first. As I stated before, she seemed to reach out to her sister-in-law, whom she barely knew, about her personal matters, however, her sister-in-law glossed over it and acted like she didn't hear a word she said. Changed the subject to the cake Margaret brought and kept it moving. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Why wouldn't she think he could change? She's a devout Christian so I'm sure at the time she believed in the good in all people. Now she looks defeated.
You keep saying 'blabbing to others'. Who are these 'others'? She tells one person and that means she's blabbing to anyone who will listen? | |
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Change him? She was the one helping him strategize how to beat the system when Jimmy, Eli and all of them turned their backs on him! She wasn't trying to change him, she knew exactly what she was doing, ensuring her future. Without Nucky's money and power, Margaret knows she would be back working as a maid or a customer service girl and she will do anything to keep from going back to that life. We've seen it. So now she wants to start whining about how she's unhappy and that Nucky cheats on her? Please. She's cheated too! She's proven that she's selfish and greedy and will stop at nothing to stay in her privledged life...even if that means staying in an unhappy marriage to maintain that life. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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If you would have read my comment above, clearly I said that she BARELY KNEW HER SISTER-IN-LAW, if she can, yes BLAB to her, then she could blab to anyone. I could have sworn she confessed to someone else...I'm thinking about last season when her daughter was sick. Back then she didn't mention anything about Nucky cheating, but more along the lines of her being involved with a man "who does bad things". I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Of course she helped him then because Nucky's life was in danger. And when that was all over was when she tried to get him out of the business. | |
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How do you know this means Margaret will blab to anyone? Even though she barely knew her, her sister-in-law is part of Nucky's family and Easter Sunday bringing them close together is why she confessed. She would not have said that to just anybody. | |
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Right! But when she helped, it was still helping him in his illegal activities. She hid his books with the illegal proof in it....so how is that helping him change if she was so against it?
When did she ever try to get him out of the business? I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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But knowing, even after hearing her sister-in-law praise up Nucky because of how much he helped her when Eli was in jail, Margaret still spilled the beans, wanting some kind of compassion, but she didn't get that. Her sister-in-law might be family and yes the atmosphere may have felt like family, she still didn't know her well enough to say all of that. Especially knowing that her sister-in-law has known Nucky for years, a lot longer than Margaret has. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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The alternative was Nucky going to jail. That wouldn't have been good for anyone.
In between season two and three after Margaret gave his land to the church and got him to receive the St Gregory Award from the bishop were her weak attempts to set Nucky straight. | |
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It was a moment of extreme despair for Margaret after seeing how devoted Eli's family was in comparison to her own. That was why she broke down. [Edited 10/29/12 16:25pm] | |
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Oh, well in my interpretation, I didn't consider those "attempts" to set Nucky straight. The only one who can set Nucky straight is Nucky and he's made it clear that he's going to continue to do what he's been doing for as long as he wants to. If anything, this season, he's proving to me even more "gangster" than ever been. Started with him killing Jimmy himself instead of getting Owen to do it. I see him as more of a political power player in seasons 1 & 2 as compared to this season where he's just evolved to plain ole' gangster status. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Yes I understood why she broke down, but what I'm saying is, again, she's just as much to blame for her unhappiness as Nucky is. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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I got the impression that she signed over the deed to the land to the church to "get right with God." The priest told her she had to demomstrate ker faith in God, and the only way she felt she could do that and cleanse her soul was to sign over those 160,000 acres to the Church. That's how the Catholic church got so rich, filthy rich sinners seeking redemption. | |
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The act was the solution to multiple problems in Margaret's eyes. | |
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Jeeze, thank you! That act had nothing to do with her marriage to Nucky, it was to save herself. She was feeling a shit load of guilt when her little girl contracted Polio and blamed herself since she chose her way of life with Nucky. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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Giving her husband's land away to the church has nothing to do with her marriage??? | |
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She decided to atone for both of them, which only compounded the error because atonement through deceit -- even at the expense of Nucky Thompson -- is not pure absolution. And that fact made her problem worse -- it probably gave Nuck the excuse (however weak) to step out on her to boot. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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