SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Ottensen said:

I think what he was trying to say is that while he believes (as do I) that the videos are staged for dramatic effect, he understands enough about the spiritual world and negative energies and how they can affect us to go down that road. That's all.

I know plenty of trustworthy, honest people who had the experience of that thing moving all by itself. I aint goin near it!

I'm trustworthy, Supa.
Back in college,
me & some friends tried using the ouija board once.
We asked the "spirit" we conjured up "How do you spell 'ouija'?".
It responded with the letters W T F.
Since this was before the internet, we didn't know what it meant. We just thought that spirit demons were bad spellers.

I was talking with a dear friend of mine from Berlin some months ago, and (I forget how we got talking about such esoteric matter), but he revealed to me that he is closely related to Anneliese Michel.

For those of you that don't know, Annelise Michel is one of the most widely documented exorcism cases, and also one of the most disturbing. He said the family never discuss it, and it has brought great distress over the intervening years upon the family at large.

If you have never heard of her before, you would have probably at least touched upon her sad tale, as Annelise's story was dramatised for the film 'The Exorcism of Emily Rose'.

I am no believer in "ghosts" and I think most (high profile) psychics are charlatans who prey on people's misery. However I do believe there are spirits (for want of a better word), and I have no reason to doubt some of the things that my friend told me, as he has absolutely no reason to lie, nor is he of such a character to do so.

You can listen to the exorcism recordings in 10 parts, starting here:


Unlike the laughable crap above, this is as raw and real as it gets.

lauralevesque said:

My daughter wants to show her friend that they work (he doesn't believe in spirits, demons, ghosts, nothing) and so they are going to a so called, haunted location to play the ouija board. I told her not to but she's adamant- I hope nothing happens!!!

I would highly advise her not to,if she should make contact,there are chances that it could follow her home. There have been cases where people have believes if they simply move out of the house that they are having the issues in,that it will end,but sometimes the spirits have attached themselves,and they follow.

I myself have had experiences,the house I live in is "haunted",and has been since my Mom was a child. She has actually seen a girl in a wheelchair in the opening to one of the downstairs bedrooms.

My experiences I have had,have been both audible and physical. I have heard footsteps on the stairs,and they always stop at the first landing. I have been in bed,and have had the feeling of the mattress moving away from my legs like some has sat at the foot of the bed,and I woke up early one morning,and felt like someone was at my bedroom door,when I looked I saw what looked like the back of a white nighgown heading down stairs,I got up to see if there was somebody there,and there was nobody. I went into the bathroom to get ready to shower,and for no reason at all, I started crying,and the whole time I was crying,I kept thinking "why am I crying?"I could'nt explain it,cause I was not feeling sad,or scared,I just started crying.

I have not had any experiences in a long time,except for the occasional feeling of someone sitting at the edge of my bed,but that does't really bother me. I don't feel that whoever is there is meaning me any harm.

I think you really need to have it happen to you in order for people to believe. My uncle thought we were all crazy,cause he had lived here to when he was growing up,but he never saw or heard anything,but that changed when he came to visit one time. He was asleep downstairs,and woke up to the feeling of someone tugging on his arm like he was trying to be pulled out of bed,he said that when he opened his eyes there was nobody there.

Ottensen said:

PanicAttack said:

Then if you REALLY believe this was all staged, why would you insist on staying 10,000 miles from a Ouiji Board? HAHAHAHA! YOU'RE SPOOKED!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!

I think what he was trying to say is that while he believes (as do I) that the videos are staged for dramatic effect, he understands enough about the spiritual world and negative energies and how they can affect us to go down that road. That's all.

Unfortunately, these videos are NOT staged...They may appear silly or even funny, but they are real.

andykeen said:

PanicAttack said:

This video is dangerously misleading and makes light a a very LETHAL THING! If Ouija Board movements were simply the result of the subconscieious mind then how do you explain the VIOLENT and INVOLUNTARY experiences of the persons who appears in the first three videos I posted? Let alone the tens of MILLIONS of people throughout history who could pleadge the same thing. This video's attempt to simply pass off the Ouija Board as being another Perpetual Motion Machine is UNSUBSTAINATED to the greatest degree!

How do you explain everything that took place in that guy's home?

There are countless docuemented and historical cases of people being pyhsically attacked, driven insane and even KILLED by spirits playing with Ouija Boards. And YOURS TRUELY--even tho I have never played with a Ouija Board--has had TERRIFYING contact with SPIRITS! THAT'S RIGHT! They exist, and they are very DANGEROUS!

"For those who believe, no explaination is necessary. For those who don't believe, no explaination will suffice."--Unknown

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Stupid. Just stupid.

Great! I KNEW somebody was going to do this sooner or later! Why the name calling you BEAN-EATING BEAR HUGGER?

PanicAttack said:

Ottensen said:

I think what he was trying to say is that while he believes (as do I) that the videos are staged for dramatic effect, he understands enough about the spiritual world and negative energies and how they can affect us to go down that road. That's all.

Unfortunately, these videos are NOT staged...They may appear silly or even funny, but they are real.

How do we know this for sure?

CarrieMpls said:

PanicAttack said:

Then provide PROOF that this is not real. This also includes showing that what others have claimed happened to them wasn't true as well. This just simply can't be based on any personal failed attempts at a succussful Ouija Board experience.

Did you know fairies and elves live under my bed? And under the beds of TENS of MILLIONS of people throughout history? It's true.

Prove they don't! You can't!!

Nobody believes in elves any longer. Nobody believes in fairies anymore too. And most don't believe in Santa or the Easter Bunny either. But you just proved a very important POINT! It is impossible to DISPROVE the millions upons millions of strange experiences that people claim to have had (or are having) with wicked spirits--which is an UNDYING TREND that is as old as man himself.

This is not something you'll understand if it's not something that has happened to you.

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KidaDynamite said:

PanicAttack said:

Unfortunately, these videos are NOT staged...They may appear silly or even funny, but they are real.

How do we know this for sure?

It does require that you suspend any preconceptions or predujices about this issue and take a close and open minded look at these videos...Some might need to watch more than once but these videos are NOT FAKE.

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PanicAttack said:

Ottensen said:

I think what he was trying to say is that while he believes (as do I) that the videos are staged for dramatic effect, he understands enough about the spiritual world and negative energies and how they can affect us to go down that road. That's all.

Unfortunately, these videos are NOT staged...They may appear silly or even funny, but they are real.

My nearly 20 years experience working on sets for photography, film, and video tells me otherwise, in addition to having personal spiritual experiences in Brasil and Haiti dealing precisely with the issue of spirit possession. We weren't denying that there is such a thing as a spirit world nor the many possibilities of what can take place in it...but those videos essentially look like film student projects. They are not hard to pull off when you have the technical know how to know what you're doing, and if these were cases of real authentic possession, I think they would already have been circulating and discussed among church elders, leaders, theologists, and councils worldwide. Not everything you see on youtube is authentic or real, regardless of what your religious beliefs (or lack thereof) tell you. It's a discernment issue, and that discernment comes with a level of spiritual maturity that enables one to see clearly that which is of El Shaddai, that which is of the enemy, and that which is just plain old silliness with some dumb people getting their rocks off because they don't know any better.

PanicAttack said:

Ottensen said:

I think what he was trying to say is that while he believes (as do I) that the videos are staged for dramatic effect, he understands enough about the spiritual world and negative energies and how they can affect us to go down that road. That's all.

Unfortunately, these videos are NOT staged...They may appear silly or even funny, but they are real.

Prove it.

Its totally real like this:

Ottensen said:

PanicAttack said:

Unfortunately, these videos are NOT staged...They may appear silly or even funny, but they are real.

My nearly 20 years experience working on sets for photography, film, and video tells me otherwise, in addition to having personal spiritual experiences in Brasil and Haiti dealing precisely with the issue of spirit possession. We weren't denying that there is such a thing as a spirit world nor the many possibilities of what can take place in it...but those videos essentially look like film student projects. They are not hard to pull off when you have the technical know how to know what you're doing, and if these were cases of real authentic possession, I think they would already have been circulating and discussed among church elders, leaders, theologists, and councils worldwide. Not everything you see on youtube is authentic or real, regardless of what your religious beliefs (or lack thereof) tell you. It's a discernment issue, and that discernment comes with a level of spiritual maturity that enables one to see clearly that which is of El Shaddai, that which is of the enemy, and that which is just plain old silliness with some dumb people getting their rocks off because they don't know any better.

In a real possession, people would have flipped on the lights and not reached out to comfort the devil!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Ottensen said:

My nearly 20 years experience working on sets for photography, film, and video tells me otherwise, in addition to having personal spiritual experiences in Brasil and Haiti dealing precisely with the issue of spirit possession. We weren't denying that there is such a thing as a spirit world nor the many possibilities of what can take place in it...but those videos essentially look like film student projects. They are not hard to pull off when you have the technical know how to know what you're doing, and if these were cases of real authentic possession, I think they would already have been circulating and discussed among church elders, leaders, theologists, and councils worldwide. Not everything you see on youtube is authentic or real, regardless of what your religious beliefs (or lack thereof) tell you. It's a discernment issue, and that discernment comes with a level of spiritual maturity that enables one to see clearly that which is of El Shaddai, that which is of the enemy, and that which is just plain old silliness with some dumb people getting their rocks off because they don't know any better.

In a real possession, people would have flipped on the lights and not reached out to comfort the devil!

For real!

I just want to say that the human mind is a powerful thing, and BELIEF is a powerful thing.

I do believe in the existence of something greater than ourselves. That there is a "force" or "spirit" that drives the human being (not chimps or dolphins or other creatures).

That being said, I have had my fair share of "stories" of people fooling around with it and nothing happening, to people staging a seance and freaky things happening.

I can tell you that I witnessed the spirit of my ex's grandfather interacting with my daughter on the night he died. I've told the story many times. Whatever that was...his spirit "moving on" or the traces of his existence touching someone of his bloodline...whatever...it was something of what we call "supernatural".

So...with that great "unknown" out there and the POSSIBILITY of something "sinister" being invited into the sanctity of your home...why even GO THERE?

No Ouija board will ever enter my home.

Ottensen said:

..but those videos essentially look like film student projects.

The first one is filmed particularly well. It looks natural, but if you watch closely, everything is staged to look that way

PurpleJedi said:

I just want to say that the human mind is a powerful thing, and BELIEF is a powerful thing.

I do believe in the existence of something greater than ourselves. That there is a "force" or "spirit" that drives the human being (not chimps or dolphins or other creatures).

That being said, I have had my fair share of "stories" of people fooling around with it and nothing happening, to people staging a seance and freaky things happening.

I can tell you that I witnessed the spirit of my ex's grandfather interacting with my daughter on the night he died. I've told the story many times. Whatever that was...his spirit "moving on" or the traces of his existence touching someone of his bloodline...whatever...it was something of what we call "supernatural".

So...with that great "unknown" out there and the POSSIBILITY of something "sinister" being invited into the sanctity of your home...why even GO THERE?

No Ouija board will ever enter my home.

The problem with the idea of the Oujia bourd is still there even if you believe in supernatural phenomena. Why the hell would a game board from mass manufacturing attract any kind of supernatural attention?

I had a board back in elementary school, and try as we might, endlessly as kids, nothing ever happened.

I'd change my baby's diapers on a oujia board. I don't believe I've ever seen or heard any real reason to believe that such a board is a supernatural conduit.

I think these videos in this thread are fun works of fiction.

I think this works. However, the chances are very thin. 100/1 that a spirit wants to visit YOU, I really don't think spririts wanna be seen to everybody and wanna turn up whenver you want to call them. So this is nonsense. I think it needs ome spitirual capacity for people to play with those boards and not everybody can.

And for demonic spirits, chances are 100/0,5 even less, as I believe there are more angelic spirits than demonic ones. The good will always fight over the bad. This is what I belive.

I tried this few times, and had mixed experiences. As someone said it's not so much about calling them, this shit can get crazy if they don't wanna leave.

Has anyone watched this yet? Is it super scary?

Kinda tempted to watch this instead of a horror movie now!

Xibalba said:

For those of you that don't know, Annelise Michel is one of the most widely documented exorcism cases, and also one of the most disturbing. He said the family never discuss it, and it has brought great distress over the intervening years upon the family at large.

PanicAttack said:

KidaDynamite said:

How do we know this for sure?

It does require that you suspend any preconceptions or predujices about this issue and take a close and open minded look at these videos...Some might need to watch more than once but these videos are NOT FAKE.

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I think it's unfair that you're telling others to prove themselves but you are not showing any solid "proof" yourself that these videos are indeed real.

KidaDynamite said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

In a real possession, people would have flipped on the lights and not reached out to comfort the devil!

For real!

Y'anno???

ufoclub said:

ZoZO... Jimmy Page.... Led Zepplin?

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING!

And that muthafucka still alive....

PurpleJedi said:

I just want to say that the human mind is a powerful thing, and BELIEF is a powerful thing.

I do believe in the existence of something greater than ourselves. That there is a "force" or "spirit" that drives the human being (not chimps or dolphins or other creatures).

That being said, I have had my fair share of "stories" of people fooling around with it and nothing happening, to people staging a seance and freaky things happening.

I can tell you that I witnessed the spirit of my ex's grandfather interacting with my daughter on the night he died. I've told the story many times. Whatever that was...his spirit "moving on" or the traces of his existence touching someone of his bloodline...whatever...it was something of what we call "supernatural".

So...with that great "unknown" out there and the POSSIBILITY of something "sinister" being invited into the sanctity of your home...why even GO THERE?

No Ouija board will ever enter my home.

yup. When my sisters boyfriend first moved in here,and she had told him about some of our experiences,he thought it would be neat to try to capture a picture of one of those ball sof light that they show on the ghost shows on tv.So at night he would creep up the stairs with his camera,and try to see something. As soon as I found out,I told him,that he had better knock his shit off,or he would not be living here anymore. Things had been "normal",and I wasn't going to have him stirring shit up again.

There are just some things that you need to leave alone.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

ufoclub said:

ZoZO... Jimmy Page.... Led Zepplin?

THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING!

And that muthafucka still alive....

I'm SO HAPPY SOMEONE QUOTED THIS JOKE!

There's no such thing as a haunted house etc....only haunted people.

The mind is a powerful thing and is the explanation.

Watch that Derren Brown video. "Extraordinary events require extraordinary evidence." ....and that extraordinary evidence is NEVER supplied, yet on the flip side, substantial scientific evidence is provided.

You see what you want/expect to see and experience what you want/expect to happen.

WetDream said:

There's no such thing as a haunted house etc....only haunted people.

The mind is a powerful thing and is the explanation.

Watch that Derren Brown video. "Extraordinary events require extraordinary evidence." ....and that extraordinary evidence is NEVER supplied, yet on the flip side, substantial scientific evidence is provided.

You see what you want/expect to see and experience what you want/expect to happen.

In order to justify my experience by your statement, I would've needed to have killed the old man after I suspected my daughter was being visited. Someone I didn't know, who lived thousands of miles away.

PurpleJedi said:

WetDream said:

There's no such thing as a haunted house etc....only haunted people.

The mind is a powerful thing and is the explanation.

Watch that Derren Brown video. "Extraordinary events require extraordinary evidence." ....and that extraordinary evidence is NEVER supplied, yet on the flip side, substantial scientific evidence is provided.

You see what you want/expect to see and experience what you want/expect to happen.

In order to justify my experience by your statement, I would've needed to have killed the old man after I suspected my daughter was being visited. Someone I didn't know, who lived thousands of miles away.

I'm with you. Some people would run to rationalize even if Jesus Christ appeared and taught them how to walk on water.

PurpleJedi said:

I just want to say that the human mind is a powerful thing, and BELIEF is a powerful thing.

I do believe in the existence of something greater than ourselves. That there is a "force" or "spirit" that drives the human being (not chimps or dolphins or other creatures).

That being said, I have had my fair share of "stories" of people fooling around with it and nothing happening, to people staging a seance and freaky things happening.

I can tell you that I witnessed the spirit of my ex's grandfather interacting with my daughter on the night he died. I've told the story many times. Whatever that was...his spirit "moving on" or the traces of his existence touching someone of his bloodline...whatever...it was something of what we call "supernatural".

So...with that great "unknown" out there and the POSSIBILITY of something "sinister" being invited into the sanctity of your home...why even GO THERE?

No Ouija board will ever enter my home.

So what EXACTLY did you see?

JustErin said:

PurpleJedi said:

I just want to say that the human mind is a powerful thing, and BELIEF is a powerful thing.

I do believe in the existence of something greater than ourselves. That there is a "force" or "spirit" that drives the human being (not chimps or dolphins or other creatures).

That being said, I have had my fair share of "stories" of people fooling around with it and nothing happening, to people staging a seance and freaky things happening.

I can tell you that I witnessed the spirit of my ex's grandfather interacting with my daughter on the night he died. I've told the story many times. Whatever that was...his spirit "moving on" or the traces of his existence touching someone of his bloodline...whatever...it was something of what we call "supernatural".

So...with that great "unknown" out there and the POSSIBILITY of something "sinister" being invited into the sanctity of your home...why even GO THERE?

No Ouija board will ever enter my home.

So what EXACTLY did you see?

My daughter (less than 2y.o. at the time) interacting with someone in the room. Playing peek-a-boo and laughing. It was well past her bedtime (about 10:30/11:00pm) so she shouldn't have even been awake. The hairs on the back of my neck stood on end when I walked into the room to check on the noises that we had been hearing.

This was not behavior that she ever exhibited before NOR after. EVER. In fact, it was nearly impossible to make this little girl laugh (she was an angry baby).

We heard this go on for a while, suspecting that "someone" was visiting her.

This was confirmed the following morning when my ex was informed of her grandfather's passing that previous evening...around 10:30/11:00pm.

My daughter is named after his first wife (my ex's grandmother).

I can't dismiss this as some sort of convoluted "coincidence".

PurpleJedi said:

JustErin said:

So what EXACTLY did you see?

My daughter (less than 2y.o. at the time) interacting with someone in the room. Playing peek-a-boo and laughing. It was well past her bedtime (about 10:30/11:00pm) so she shouldn't have even been awake. The hairs on the back of my neck stood on end when I walked into the room to check on the noises that we had been hearing.

This was not behavior that she ever exhibited before NOR after. EVER. In fact, it was nearly impossible to make this little girl laugh (she was an angry baby).

We heard this go on for a while, suspecting that "someone" was visiting her.

This was confirmed the following morning when my ex was informed of her grandfather's passing that previous evening...around 10:30/11:00pm.

My daughter is named after his first wife (my ex's grandmother).

I can't dismiss this as some sort of convoluted "coincidence".

You actually saw a man in your daughter's room playing with her and did nothing in response like call the police!

Or you saw your little on acting like someone was in the room with her but there was actually nothing there?

JustErin said:

PurpleJedi said:

My daughter (less than 2y.o. at the time) interacting with someone in the room. Playing peek-a-boo and laughing. It was well past her bedtime (about 10:30/11:00pm) so she shouldn't have even been awake. The hairs on the back of my neck stood on end when I walked into the room to check on the noises that we had been hearing.

This was not behavior that she ever exhibited before NOR after. EVER. In fact, it was nearly impossible to make this little girl laugh (she was an angry baby).

We heard this go on for a while, suspecting that "someone" was visiting her.

This was confirmed the following morning when my ex was informed of her grandfather's passing that previous evening...around 10:30/11:00pm.

My daughter is named after his first wife (my ex's grandmother).

I can't dismiss this as some sort of convoluted "coincidence".

You actually saw a man in your daughter's room playing with her and did nothing in response like call the police!

Or you saw your little on acting like someone was in the room with her but there was actually nothing there?

Sorry...I saw her interacting with "someone-not-there" in the darkened room.