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Thread started 06/19/12 8:58am

Graycap23

Nba 2 come down on Floppers

This is WAYYYYYYYYYYY Overdue:

MIAMI -- David Stern is determined to stop the floppers, even if it takes until the next morning.

The NBA commissioner believes too many players are deceiving referees into calling fouls by falling down, or flopping. So he and the league's newly reformed competition committee met Monday for a discussion about how it can be prevented.

One option, Stern said, is a "postgame analysis" in which a player could be penalized if it was determined he flopped. The league retroactively upgrades or downgrades flagrant fouls after review, and along those lines he said that perhaps a player could receive a message from New York saying: "Greetings from the league office. You have been assigned flopper status."

Stern We just want to put a stake in the ground that says this (flopping) is not something that we want to be part of our game, without coming down with a sledgehammer."

-- David Stern

"No, I'm joking, but something like that," Stern said. "That sort of lets people know that it's not enough to say 'it's all part of the game.' "

The committee is made up of coaches Doc Rivers of Boston, Rick Carlisle of Dallas and Lionel Hollins of Memphis; owners Dan Gilbert of Cleveland and Joe Lacob of Golden State, and general managers Bryan Colangelo of Toronto, Sam Presti of Oklahoma City, Mitch Kupchak of the Lakers and Kevin O'Connor of Utah.

During a 6-hour meeting, they also discussed expanding instant replay for flagrant fouls and goaltending, decided the lottery system is the best one currently available, and seemed to favor leaving the away from the ball foul rule as is, so coaches could continue to intentionally foul notoriously bad free throw shooters.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8069250/nba-weighs-retroactive-penalties-floppers

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Reply #1 posted 06/19/12 12:13pm

RodeoSchro

Easy - if a European or South American player is on the floor, he flopped.

If an American player is on the floor, check the tape to see if he flopped or not.

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Reply #2 posted 06/19/12 12:16pm

Graycap23

RodeoSchro said:

Easy - if a European or South American player is on the floor, he flopped.

If an American player is on the floor, check the tape to see if he flopped or not.

As a former ref...............it's NOT the easy. There is 2 much going on at the same time 2 see every thing.

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Reply #3 posted 06/19/12 12:34pm

AsherFierce

Need to get rid of the crappy officiating first and foremost. Priorities, Mr Stern, Priorities.

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Reply #4 posted 06/19/12 12:43pm

Graycap23

AsherFierce said:

Need to get rid of the crappy officiating first and foremost. Priorities, Mr Stern, Priorities.

It does need some work.

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Reply #5 posted 06/19/12 12:47pm

legna

Graycap23 said:

RodeoSchro said:

Easy - if a European or South American player is on the floor, he flopped.

If an American player is on the floor, check the tape to see if he flopped or not.

As a former ref...............it's NOT the easy. There is 2 much going on at the same time 2 see every thing.

I've been calling games since 1982 and go by this... did the offensive player go "through" the defenses legal guarding position. That being said, I rarely call one if the offense stops and makes contact which where most flops happen.

Players in the NBA and college are the floppers, but, as you know, are stronger than ever so they can "take" the contact.

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Reply #6 posted 06/19/12 12:52pm

Graycap23

legna said:

Graycap23 said:

As a former ref...............it's NOT the easy. There is 2 much going on at the same time 2 see every thing.

I've been calling games since 1982 and go by this... did the offensive player go "through" the defenses legal guarding position. That being said, I rarely call one if the offense stops and makes contact which where most flops happen.

Players in the NBA and college are the floppers, but, as you know, are stronger than ever so they can "take" the contact.

I have a real distaste 4 this flooping nonsense. 2 me it is exactly the same as cheating.

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Reply #7 posted 06/19/12 1:33pm

RodeoSchro

Graycap23 said:

RodeoSchro said:

Easy - if a European or South American player is on the floor, he flopped.

If an American player is on the floor, check the tape to see if he flopped or not.

As a former ref...............it's NOT the easy. There is 2 much going on at the same time 2 see every thing.

Sure it is! Europeans and South Americans NEVER go down unless it's a flop. You see one of them on the floor, you can be guaranteed it was a flop.

Americans? 50/50. We have our share of floppers but it's not inbred like it is with the rest of the world.

(I'm being a little cheekish here, but I'm not that far from the truth, am I?)

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Reply #8 posted 06/19/12 1:50pm

Graycap23

RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:

As a former ref...............it's NOT the easy. There is 2 much going on at the same time 2 see every thing.

Sure it is! Europeans and South Americans NEVER go down unless it's a flop. You see one of them on the floor, you can be guaranteed it was a flop.

Americans? 50/50. We have our share of floppers but it's not inbred like it is with the rest of the world.

(I'm being a little cheekish here, but I'm not that far from the truth, am I?)

Agree about 99% of the time. They teach this nonsense.

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Reply #9 posted 06/19/12 2:03pm

NDRU

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I hate this aspect of basketball. There is almost nothing more absurd than these huge men ending up on their backs after being touched by a wisp of someone's jersey

Meanwhile, there is a rugby match going on elsewhere on the court and nobody cares.

Basketball used to be my favorite sport, and I find it difficult to watch these days. Pro basketball, at least.

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Reply #10 posted 06/19/12 2:25pm

phunkdaddy

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Yeah i'm pretty sure this will go over well just like Roger Goodell pussifying the

NFL into 2 hand touch football. booty!

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Reply #11 posted 06/19/12 3:03pm

RodeoSchro

NDRU said:

I hate this aspect of basketball. There is almost nothing more absurd than these huge men ending up on their backs after being touched by a wisp of someone's jersey

Meanwhile, there is a rugby match going on elsewhere on the court and nobody cares.

Basketball used to be my favorite sport, and I find it difficult to watch these days. Pro basketball, at least.

Basketball was waaaaaay better before the 3-point line.

For the last 15 years or so, basketball is - throw it inside, kick it outside, pass to the guy sitting on the 3-point line, shoot.

Ugh.

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Reply #12 posted 06/20/12 6:26am

Graycap23

phunkdaddy said:

Yeah i'm pretty sure this will go over well just like Roger Goodell pussifying the

NFL into 2 hand touch football. booty!

U think that flopping is ok?

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Reply #13 posted 06/20/12 8:46am

NDRU

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It's surprising that coaches would have their players lying on their backs rather than being in the game.
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Reply #14 posted 06/20/12 4:24pm

phunkdaddy

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Graycap23 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Yeah i'm pretty sure this will go over well just like Roger Goodell pussifying the

NFL into 2 hand touch football. booty!

U think that flopping is ok?

No it's not but if you can sell the referee into calling a charge what's the

problem. It's done in the NFL as well. You see punters do it all the time.

You can't punish a player for flopping. The refs should just not call it. It's

simple as that.

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