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Thread started 06/03/12 5:41am

alphastreet

I know more than my psychiatrist!

I figured out what's wrong with me...well he did too, but should have given me the right meds from yearsbefore! He has one third right, and I went to someone else to get the other one ages ago but only in moderation though it was not my suggestion I need one more, but not the kind he's recommending, which is too new IMO and can fuck me up. I'm going to give him what I found works and ask for it. I've been pissed with him for months for giving me samples of new meds on the market I don't want that are sitting there unopened, instead of him listening to what's bothering me and when those new boxes were not exactly for what he diagnosed me with.

I can't trust anyone! I almost feel like I'm doing more research than them and we are just experiments. And I warn you all, stay the fuck away from paxil and celexa, that shit will kill you.

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Reply #1 posted 06/03/12 5:51am

ThisOne

sounds like u need 2 c someone else ~ someone who cares with a fresh approach

this guy sounds stale and it seems like he is just taking your money and not listening to what you are saying

at one point medication does not entirely work and u need to work on the actual problem

i'm no expert and i only say what is obvious 2 me!!!

but i sincerely wish u all the best with this hug

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Reply #2 posted 06/03/12 6:27am

alphastreet

I prefer talk therapy too. Tried to switch to another psych and he was worse and rude, attacking everything about me. Went into crisis after until I could calm down. It wasn't constructive, it was personal attacks. I talk to a therapist that listens but thinks I'm fine and it's good he doesn't prescribe

But this old one I had, said I'm bipolar and OCD, even said I have an acute stress response going on when I mentally shut down from shock 3 years ago after a chain of events. It was almost like PTSD, I should be having an ssri with my mood stabilizer now! And I keep Ativan for emergencies though I avoid it since I don't want dependence. I just read more about acute stress, plus he was trying to give me an anti psychotic which I believe has nothing to do with me. It'll just screw me up like the other kind I tried before

I hate drugs and really didn't want it, but it was forced a few yrs ago 2 years after weaning off the anti depressants that messed me up thanks to their fucking misdiagnosis
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Reply #3 posted 06/03/12 9:04pm

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sorry to read that...I have been mis-diagnoised for many yrs....was prescribed celexa after my mum passed....stopped taking it after 4 months, it was making me a zombie & killed my sex drive. I guess its fine for very short term.

I have also been taking sleeping pills for yrs, my NEW dr wants me to try CBT (cognittive behaviorl therapy) I have no idea what to expect or even what it is? I know i need to get this crap outta my system, so im tapering down slowly.

not sure how i feel about talking personal shit with a stranger...... confused

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Reply #4 posted 06/04/12 5:39am

alphastreet

sonic said:

sorry to read that...I have been mis-diagnoised for many yrs....was prescribed celexa after my mum passed....stopped taking it after 4 months, it was making me a zombie & killed my sex drive. I guess its fine for very short term.

I have also been taking sleeping pills for yrs, my NEW dr wants me to try CBT (cognittive behaviorl therapy) I have no idea what to expect or even what it is? I know i need to get this crap outta my system, so im tapering down slowly.

not sure how i feel about talking personal shit with a stranger...... confused

CBT is very good, you learn how to change behaviours by experiencing the fears/anxiety it gives you, and exposure therapy is a part of it. I really wish I could get it though I've gone for day treatment before that incorporated aspects of it.

I wish celexa would be taken off the market. It's messed up so many people including someone else I know, and fucked with my mind when I was on it (I ended up breaking things when angry on more than one occasion and I don't do that normally, I'm verbal or take it out on a pillow), and when I weaned off it, the numbness took a long while to shake off though when emotions came back, I was nearly psychotic for a bit and had to do things to calm down. I was told then I had anxiety, mild depression and a little ocd and it wasn't till later I was told it's bipolar and ocd, and I learned from research that sometimes anti-depressants must NOT be given to someone who's bipolar...and that DID happen once and I called them out for it thanks to my research! Certain SSRI's can be combined with anti-psychotics or mood stabilizers, but some of them by themselves can cause more harm.

I was given the celexa in place of the paxil that was making me feel relief, but causing me to fall asleep in the middle of the day regardless of where I was (and a year or two later, studies found paxil caused suicidal thoughts and mine went up though I'm really not). I got on the drugs when I was in therapy for holding in too many feelings after my parents seperation, and being too anxious about things that had nothing to do with my life that I put too much importance into, but I was young and naive about the medical field then and trusted it since I have family in it, but the psychiatry field is so messed up for the most part.

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Reply #5 posted 06/04/12 5:44am

alphastreet

I'M GOING TO SEE HIM NEXT WEEK, AND IF HE DOESN'T GIVE ME WHAT I WANT, I'M GOING TO GO INSANE, BUT I DON'T WANT HIM TO ADMIT ME OR CALL ME A DRUG ADDICT FOR TRYING TO HELP MYSELF. I DON'T WANT THEM, BUT I DON'T WANT CRAPPY SAMPLES TO FUCK ME UP LIKE CELEXA DID TO ME AND CYMBALTA DID TOO.

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Reply #6 posted 06/04/12 5:56am

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the entire medical industry is designed to disempower you .. make you think you don't know what is right for you .. when the fact is that you know what you need better than anybody .. doctors just guess .. not only that but they guess based upon limited knowledge .. as in pharmacutical training instead of wholistic training ... you are treated like a guinea pig .. they experiment and guess and there is simply zero proof that anti depressants do anything for anyone .. other than fuck you in the head .. stay away from doctors .. if you are stressed out .. do less .. take a break and think for a while without chems fucking up your brain .. how many drugs end up being recalled due to adverse side affects .. medical industry is the number one cause of death .. due to side effects and medical errors .. these "doctors" are just in it for the paycheck .. it isn't even a good willed business anymore .. eat your vegetables .. get some excerscise .. don't injest stimulants .. eat as much natural and organic food and drink as possible .. and stay away from doctors

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Reply #7 posted 06/04/12 6:12am

alphastreet

TrevorAyer said:

the entire medical industry is designed to disempower you .. make you think you don't know what is right for you .. when the fact is that you know what you need better than anybody .. doctors just guess .. not only that but they guess based upon limited knowledge .. as in pharmacutical training instead of wholistic training ... you are treated like a guinea pig .. they experiment and guess and there is simply zero proof that anti depressants do anything for anyone .. other than fuck you in the head .. stay away from doctors .. if you are stressed out .. do less .. take a break and think for a while without chems fucking up your brain .. how many drugs end up being recalled due to adverse side affects .. medical industry is the number one cause of death .. due to side effects and medical errors .. these "doctors" are just in it for the paycheck .. it isn't even a good willed business anymore .. eat your vegetables .. get some excerscise .. don't injest stimulants .. eat as much natural and organic food and drink as possible .. and stay away from doctors

I used to not go very much, but my 20's progressed and I ended up going way too much, although I knew what to stay away from. When I injured my back and needed rehab, I was offered painkillers, but got scared and kept saying no and only having tylenol on bad days to avoid dependency. The pain was so bad and cost me my job, mental health and everything, going hand in hand with life situations but it eventually subsided and now only acts up on rainy days or if I'm stressed andholding it in. I say the body has natural defenses. I also try to eat healthy now, more veggies and even fruits I didn't before, and it's not for dieting and image though I hope to stay the way I am, but diabetes and heart disease runs in my family, the meds I'm on can create problems later on, so I'm trying to prevent it. But I agree they are all a scam, and that psychiatrist was attacking me. I was nervous meeting the one I only saw for one day, but I remembered all the meds I was on, like the month and year I started and when I stopped to change to another, except for the name of one though I knew which classification it was under and talked about moods and what I do for a living and all, and I already knew I was unstable too, but he was attacking me saying I'm unstable and shouldn't be working and all kinds of garbage, and he was rude the minute he met me too and said I seem unprofessional and was saying to look at him when I talk (I was fucking nervous!) and I ended up telling him off and yelling at him telling him I would rather go back to my old one if this is how it's going to be (and that old one is the one I'm trying to leave, and even he was okay in the beginning, waiting a few months to give me the bipolar diagnosis)

I really regret starting on the drugs years ago too, I was never the same again though I was already messed up emotionally and overstimulated and paranoid. I think I have matured since and know a lot more in comparison, and still have emotional problems, but if I knew what I did then, I would have kept talking to people, different ones instead of getting on something to stop crying and bring my marks and moods up, though the downfalls were like hell and I still have episodes while on my mood stabilizers and have to figure that one out.

I went on a bike this morning after anxiety at work, in place of thoughts I had about numbing it away or drinking caffienne to tackle it (bad habit) and though I'm not used to it and feel too fragile for it, I was on for a good 7 minutes to my favourite music and feel a little refreshed

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Reply #8 posted 06/04/12 6:24am

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funny .. i hurt my back too .. for 2 years i did everything the doctors told me .. their answer to everything was just take another drug .. eventually they wanted me on anti depressants .. in addition to all the narcotic pain killers i was on constantly while trying to work enough to pay my rent and eat .. i was depressed from working and ending up in so much pain as a result i couldn't even stand up some days .. in fact .. as soon as the painkillers wore off i was in worse agony than ever .. i learned that i need to pace myself out and do less .. i quit all the painkillers and refused the anti depressants after seeing my girlfriend at the time go psycho while trying to get off anti depressants ... i started from scratch .. i laid in bed for about a week until the pain stopped .. then worked my activities up until the pain got bad again .. instead of taking a pill to stop the pain .. i stopped being active ... and rested until i felt better .. admittedly i don't accomplish as much as i used to but i am not hooked on those narcotic prescriptions anymore and i control every aspect of how i feel ... perhaps you can wiggle that option in your life .. the answer is not always just to keep going .. after 2 years of painkillers the doctors finally told me the dangers of long term use .. they didn't when i started ... i still see comercials on tv for the drugs i was given that are now banned because they killed too many people with them .. i am thankful that i got thru it and even tho my body hurts .. a lot .. i have found a pace and existance that is stable and in my control .. not under the control of these quack doc happy pills bullshit lies they feed ... good luck

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Reply #9 posted 06/04/12 8:20am

alphastreet

I commend you for bouncIng back. I tried to start over when weaning off celexa, but had breakdowns, suicidal thoughts, wanting to self harm which was so unlike me and talking that out to calm down as much as I could. I would exercise sometimes but the back injury brought the pain up and messed up my moods more coupled with the anxiety. I was told to stay on the epival for life, I'm afraid if I don't, I'll die if I find myself having an emotional crisis, cause if the drug, not cause I want that cause I don't. I know someone else who stopped a cocktail of pain, sleep meds, anti depressants, herbal ones for weeks and ended up hospitalized for endangering others and herself. I'm so scared of stopping them again
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Reply #10 posted 06/04/12 8:30am

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psychiatry is the biggest 'smoke and screen' scam since the Dalai Lamai imparted wisdom on the world.
lol

You know that really dumb friend you have! your psychiatrist could simply be them! its not a talent but a learnt skill.

Its also great work if you can get it like banking scams.
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Reply #11 posted 06/04/12 8:42am

TrevorAyer

alphastreet said:

I commend you for bouncIng back. I tried to start over when weaning off celexa, but had breakdowns, suicidal thoughts, wanting to self harm which was so unlike me and talking that out to calm down as much as I could. I would exercise sometimes but the back injury brought the pain up and messed up my moods more coupled with the anxiety. I was told to stay on the epival for life, I'm afraid if I don't, I'll die if I find myself having an emotional crisis, cause if the drug, not cause I want that cause I don't. I know someone else who stopped a cocktail of pain, sleep meds, anti depressants, herbal ones for weeks and ended up hospitalized for endangering others and herself. I'm so scared of stopping them again

yeah my ex went bonkers trying to quit that stuff cold .. find a holistic care giver .. they can help you ween off the mental pills slowly and safely .. they want you on that shit for life .. thats how they make money .. its like coffee and cigs .. people get crazy when they don't get the fix .. but if they get past that .. that uneasy feeling .. and break the addiction .. after that you have your life back .. no longer a slave to the chemicals .. fuckin with yer head

i can't do real excercise .. too painful .. everything is mild .. mild yoga .. stretching .. for my back .. walking .. then try not to lift anything heavy with the rest of my day .. not the most thrilling life but much less painful ..

eating well will help your body to naturally correct itself .. the thing is our bodies are designed perfectly to heal .. we just have to stop preventing that healing by overdosing on toxic poisons found in pills and a lot of foods

do some research .. find a doctor who is open to alternative medicine and will support you weening off the pills .. any doctor who wont work with you on that request is NOT the doctor for you. They just cant think beyond their programming of pills solve everything.

Walk, sunlight, healthy food, a little stretching excercise .. rent a buttload of funny movies and find a different doctor or care provider. If you know those bad thoughts are not really your own feelings it will help you to wait it out and be patient. Don't let those chemicals get you caught up and depressed. Search the internet for natural and homeopathic doctors. They can help guide you in the right direction.

Best wishes!

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Reply #12 posted 06/04/12 8:47am

TrevorAyer

ps. just reread your post .. i would say if you have an opportunity to stop working you should take it. if your dr. recomends it than said dr. may be able to get you some disability insurance to live off of .. than you can slow down .. work when you feel good and stay home when you don't .. give your body mind and spirit a chance to cleanse and reboot ... find other social outlets to fill the gap of not working .. and do things that fill your soul with happiness .. plant a garden .. do art .. join a book club .. whetever helps you interact and find easy going friends

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Reply #13 posted 06/04/12 8:58am

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psychiatrist make money from you
confused

their interest is to label you (sometimes in the interest of protecting powerfull men
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be happy, don't let crazy people with single purpose of labelling you tell you what u are.


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Reply #14 posted 06/04/12 10:02pm

alphastreet

The one who said unfit doesn't know me, the one who gave different meds says it's good I'm working though I used to only work on a casual basis to look after myself on low days. I only recently switched back to more hours for under a year. I don't want disability though I have considered it
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Reply #15 posted 06/05/12 5:01am

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Psychiatristry is basically trying to get you to think in 'boxes

as long as your not hurting people like them then you have no problem.

Id like to study the mind of a psychologist, I think you will find is 'objective judgement and thinking.

As I said like every industry its a bunch of people justifying a reason to do 'nothing' and get paid.

capitalism is 'keep busy work, industry, no one is actually doing anything of value except those who do the hard yards. the listener\observer is really a product of capitalism, its a scam.
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Reply #16 posted 06/05/12 1:07pm

alphastreet

twink69 said:

Psychiatristry is basically trying to get you to think in 'boxes as long as your not hurting people like them then you have no problem. Id like to study the mind of a psychologist, I think you will find is 'objective judgement and thinking. As I said like every industry its a bunch of people justifying a reason to do 'nothing' and get paid. capitalism is 'keep busy work, industry, no one is actually doing anything of value except those who do the hard yards. the listener\observer is really a product of capitalism, its a scam.

I found I was putting myself in boxes and overanalyzing everything. I loved psychodynamic theory when I studied it, and know a little about mental health, but not enough to call myself a doctor, not even my field, and I would never want to be one.

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