They went at it on twitter before they made this interview btw,,,

Oh my word I don't know who revolts me more.

I caught this "interview" about halfway through when it originally aired, as I had been channel-surfing. While I was unaware of the preceding Twitter exchange, I found Piers Morgan's attitude to be dismissive, and more than a bit disturbing. I'm not aware of the whole story, but I walked away from it feeling completely turned-off to Piers Morgan, and wishing that Larry King had never left.

i'm just now hearin of this,

i'm gonna have to give it a view

before i get into this thread...

see you in PR

ok,

i watched as much as i cared to so now i'll chime in.

i didn't see the interview in qweston either but i have

heard some of the shit the brother was tryin to push

much like the oliver dude, i get it, they are makin

the circuit and hope to make cash from their

oppinions.

the guy piers, he's alot like british comedians

they have a very 'dry' style about themselves

and the aire of a certain 'rightness' in lookin at

themselves. unprofessional is not the lable i

would put on him though.

this guy toure, i don't follow him either. i've heard him

oppine on a few subjects and often wonder who the fuck

hired him and why, but that's just me. he tends to be

like comic relief sometimes, but he too is relevent in

today's media. his use of words is the real joke for me.

i knew a kid that used words because he wanted people

to know he knew them, not because they advanced

any ideas... he reminds me of that kid

KingBAD said:

Toure apologizes for 'Pie...frontation

MSNBC contributor Toure' took to Twitter to apologize for his heated appearance on CNN's Piers Morgan Show in wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting. Here's what he wrote:"I should not have gotten caught up in 'winning' the debate with Piers," Touré wrote on Twitter. "I got caught up with 'winning' on some masculine bravado bs when my whole point has always been justice for this...

I think Piers Morgan is a smug but essentially talentless tit, so I greatly enjoyed seeing him get a kicking. ("A whole week......?")

What was good was the way the other guy just kept responding clearly and pretty convincingly to what was levelled at him. I got the sense that his confidence in replying ruffled Morgan, whose limitations as an interviewer came out, as he had nothing really to say except that it was "rubbish" or "nonsense" (I forget which he used) - something anyone in the street can come back with. I also had to laugh at him attempting to paint himself as a "professional journalist", because he's basically a two-bit showbiz hack who came up during the heyday of the Murdoch empire and its whole wretched crew at a newspaper now disbanded because of its shameful practices of invading people's private lives, and then lost his job as editor of another tabloid for printing fake pictures as genuine news. Even now, what he mainly does here is front mawkish, tear-jerker interviews with big name celebrities, rather than anything more weighty and 'journalistic'.

I don't know much about this Touré fella. I just found a review he wrote which seemed quite good....but, in truth, it's primarily the logic of 'my enemy's enemy' that has me in his corner.

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Fuck both them PUNK BITCHES.

Timmy84 said:

Fuck both them PUNK BITCHES.

Well, ok, but fuck Morgan harder...or less lovingly...or whichever way is worse in this metaphor.

deebee said:

Timmy84 said:

Fuck both them PUNK BITCHES.

Well, ok, but fuck Morgan harder...or less lovingly...or whichever way is worse in this metaphor.

Both of them squeal like hoes anyway.

EDIT: Not probably, they do, just hearing them, you can tell their women wear the pants in their relationships.

[Edited 4/3/12 10:01am]

Timmy84 said:

deebee said:

Well, ok, but fuck Morgan harder...or less lovingly...or whichever way is worse in this metaphor.

Both of them squeal like hoes anyway.

EDIT: Not probably, they do, just hearing them, you can tell their women wear the pants in their relationships.

[Edited 4/3/12 10:01am]

I'm still wondering how in the hell Piers Morgan thought that this hack vs wannabee b*tchfight would make for good tv viewing. Essentially two lightweights carping at each other under the delusion that anybody gives a crap.

babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

Both of them squeal like hoes anyway.

EDIT: Not probably, they do, just hearing them, you can tell their women wear the pants in their relationships.

[Edited 4/3/12 10:01am]

I'm still wondering how in the hell Piers Morgan thought that this hack vs wannabee b*tchfight would make for good tv viewing. Essentially two lightweights carping at each other under the delusion that anybody gives a crap.

That's what happens when people turn something into a media circus.

Like Piers Morgan or not (I don't even know much about him, tbh), he trounced Toure and rightfully so. Maybe Toure should sit out on topics where he gets too emotional. A professional journalist, Toure is not. And for those suggesting they are both lightweights - Piers wasn't the one who claimed journalistic integrity, Toure did and Piers blew his argument out of the water.

Toure should go back and lick his wounds a while. Maybe do some Lady Gaga interviews like he does.

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Spinlight said:

Like Piers Morgan or not (I don't even know much about him, tbh), he trounced Toure and rightfully so. Maybe Toure should sit out on topics where he gets too emotional. A professional journalist, Toure is not. And for those suggesting they are both lightweights - Piers wasn't the one who claimed journalistic integrity, Toure did and Piers blew his argument out of the water.

Toure should go back and lick his wounds a while. Maybe do some Lady Gaga interviews like he does.

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Toure is not even a good interview or an article writer. I still scratch my head at his writes for Rolling Stone. He writes on the level of a second grader to me. Why does he even have a job is what I wanna know...

Timmy84 said:

Spinlight said:

Like Piers Morgan or not (I don't even know much about him, tbh), he trounced Toure and rightfully so. Maybe Toure should sit out on topics where he gets too emotional. A professional journalist, Toure is not. And for those suggesting they are both lightweights - Piers wasn't the one who claimed journalistic integrity, Toure did and Piers blew his argument out of the water.

Toure should go back and lick his wounds a while. Maybe do some Lady Gaga interviews like he does.

[Edited 4/3/12 11:19am]

Toure is not even a good interview or an article writer. I still scratch my head at his writes for Rolling Stone. He writes on the level of a second grader to me. Why does he even have a job is what I wanna know...

Seriously, he is a TERRIBLE interviewer! I can't stand his puerile questions OR his annoying voice. The first time I saw him was a few years ago interviewing on Fuse, I guess it was. The dude can't interview without sounding entirely fake. He has that black comedian-does-a-white-guy voice. Reminds me of Dave Chappelle skits except it's for real.

And I am no fan of Piers, either. I watched the interview he did w/ Rosie on his show. Rosie is really interesting in interviews, to me anyway. Piers' interviewing of her was a snoozefest. Only a stiff dorky brit could ruin an interview w/ Rosie O Donnell who tends to carry interviews as it is, imo.

Spinlight said:

Timmy84 said:

Toure is not even a good interview or an article writer. I still scratch my head at his writes for Rolling Stone. He writes on the level of a second grader to me. Why does he even have a job is what I wanna know...

Seriously, he is a TERRIBLE interviewer! I can't stand his puerile questions OR his annoying voice. The first time I saw him was a few years ago interviewing on Fuse, I guess it was. The dude can't interview without sounding entirely fake. He has that black comedian-does-a-white-guy voice. Reminds me of Dave Chappelle skits except it's for real.

And I am no fan of Piers, either. I watched the interview he did w/ Rosie on his show. Rosie is really interesting in interviews, to me anyway. Piers' interviewing of her was a snoozefest. Only a stiff dorky brit could ruin an interview w/ Rosie O Donnell who tends to carry interviews as it is, imo.

Yeah I know what you mean in your description of Toure because he definitely is that: a black man doing a white guy voice and being real fake. And Piers just annoys me. Both annoying peas in a stank ass pod mane.

You see, for me, unless the other guy had given a long list of unpleasant things he liked to do to small fluffy animals, I'd still've given it to him over old Smarmychops. (Had it been a short or medium-length list, I'd've been torn....)

deebee said:

You see, for me, unless the other guy had given a long list of unpleasant things he liked to do to small fluffy animals, I'd still've given it to him over old Smarmychops. (Had it been a short or medium-length list, I'd've been torn....)

The minute Toure admitted that he had already convicted the guy in his head, he made a grave mistake when it comes to being a respectable journalist. That kind of emotion is anathema to journalists who purport to take themselves seriously. They aren't meant to be mouthpieces in that way. Who needs another person with talking points?

Spinlight said:

deebee said:

You see, for me, unless the other guy had given a long list of unpleasant things he liked to do to small fluffy animals, I'd still've given it to him over old Smarmychops. (Had it been a short or medium-length list, I'd've been torn....)

The minute Toure admitted that he had already convicted the guy in his head, he made a grave mistake when it comes to being a respectable journalist. That kind of emotion is anathema to journalists who purport to take themselves seriously. They aren't meant to be mouthpieces in that way. Who needs another person with talking points?

That's why journalism don't exist anymore. Toure just makes me sick for some reason.

Timmy84 said:

Spinlight said:

The minute Toure admitted that he had already convicted the guy in his head, he made a grave mistake when it comes to being a respectable journalist. That kind of emotion is anathema to journalists who purport to take themselves seriously. They aren't meant to be mouthpieces in that way. Who needs another person with talking points?

That's why journalism don't exist anymore. Toure just makes me sick for some reason.

Journalism, real journalism, is stratified now more than ever. Reminds me of "real music" and then the pop charts. And then you have those supposedly respectable people, like Toure and Piers who both consider themselves respectable, who are really just all hot air.

Its like opening a seemingly-full bag of doritos and realizing half the bag is dorito oxygen.

Spinlight said:

Timmy84 said:

That's why journalism don't exist anymore. Toure just makes me sick for some reason.

Journalism, real journalism, is stratified now more than ever. Reminds me of "real music" and then the pop charts. And then you have those supposedly respectable people, like Toure and Piers who both consider themselves respectable, who are really just all hot air.

Its like opening a seemingly-full bag of doritos and realizing half the bag is dorito oxygen.

Basically.

Spinlight said:

deebee said:

You see, for me, unless the other guy had given a long list of unpleasant things he liked to do to small fluffy animals, I'd still've given it to him over old Smarmychops. (Had it been a short or medium-length list, I'd've been torn....)

The minute Toure admitted that he had already convicted the guy in his head, he made a grave mistake when it comes to being a respectable journalist. That kind of emotion is anathema to journalists who purport to take themselves seriously. They aren't meant to be mouthpieces in that way. Who needs another person with talking points?

I took this very much as a slapping contest between a hack with a magazine show and an author/media personality known for taking up a particular viewpoint who'd been drafted in to provide a counterpoint and a few sparks, rather than anything more exemplary of quality journalism; so I was engaging with it on more of a 'handbags at dawn' level with fairly low expectations, but still quite interested to see who could land the most stinging slaps.

I actually thought the guest did a better job of keeping his cool than the visibly-ruffled host, and that allowed him to lay out his points better (even if we could agree or disagree with those). Morgan's wounded-sounding putdowns and the rather optimistic appeal to his journalistic credentials (lol!) all sounded a bit limp to my ears. Like I said, though, none of it seemed like Pulitzer material - and the other guy might have struck me as equally annoying if I'd seen him enough to know his particular whine and wince at it.

deebee said:

Spinlight said:

The minute Toure admitted that he had already convicted the guy in his head, he made a grave mistake when it comes to being a respectable journalist. That kind of emotion is anathema to journalists who purport to take themselves seriously. They aren't meant to be mouthpieces in that way. Who needs another person with talking points?

I took this very much as a slapping contest between a hack with a magazine show and an author/media personality known for taking up a particular viewpoint who'd been drafted in to provide a counterpoint and a few sparks, rather than anything more exemplary of quality journalism; so I was engaging with it on more of a 'handbags at dawn' level with fairly low expectations, but still quite interested to see who could land the most stinging slaps.

I actually thought the guest did a better job of keeping his cool than the visibly-ruffled host, and that allowed him to lay out his points better (even if we could agree or disagree with those). Morgan's wounded-sounding putdowns and the rather optimistic appeal to his journalistic credentials (lol!) all sounded a bit limp to my ears. Like I said, though, none of it seemed like Pulitzer material - and the other guy might have struck me as equally annoying if I'd seen him enough to know his particular whine and wince at it.

Oh believe me mane, Toure is real annoying.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Toure apologizes for 'Pie...frontation

8:45 AM TSS/KCOOL

MSNBC contributor Toure' took to Twitter to apologize for his heated appearance on CNN's Piers Morgan Show in wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting. Here's what he wrote:"I should not have gotten caught up in 'winning' the debate with Piers," Touré wrote on Twitter. "I got caught up with 'winning' on some masculine bravado bs when my whole point has always been justice for this...

Well one part rings true....it was masculine bravado on both their parts. In an attempt to "one-up" each other they both lost sight of the real story which was the tragedy of Trayvon Martin's senseless murder. This is that awkward moment when justice and social inequity take a back seat to news ratings.

I like Toure'! He was very pleasant to me when we were discussing Prince..But then back then he wasn't as outspoken as he has become now either. I think now he is trying to make a name for himself, like the Rev Al Sharpton & that Roland Martin person. He wants to become a leader in the black community like Tavis Smiley has tried to become.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

I like Toure'! He was very pleasant to me when we were discussing Prince..But then back then he wasn't as outspoken as he has become now either. I think now he is trying to make a name for himself, like the Rev Al Sharpton & that Roland Martin person. He wants to become a leader in the black community like Tavis Smiley has tried to become.

U know what?

I agree. I've never interacted with Toure like that but I've seen him at social events and he does have this air about him. Couldn't explain it until reading your post. He always seems to have an opinion about something which is cool but it doesn't come off as sincere to me. Mostly its like you said, he wants to be this new black leader/activist/iconic figure or something. He has a long way to go if you ask me. He is nowhere near the level of Roland or Al or even Tavis with his wack ass.

I don't even like him on HipHop Shop.

He's a pretentious fuck ass.

Timmy84 said:

Spinlight said:

Like Piers Morgan or not (I don't even know much about him, tbh), he trounced Toure and rightfully so. Maybe Toure should sit out on topics where he gets too emotional. A professional journalist, Toure is not. And for those suggesting they are both lightweights - Piers wasn't the one who claimed journalistic integrity, Toure did and Piers blew his argument out of the water.

Toure should go back and lick his wounds a while. Maybe do some Lady Gaga interviews like he does.

[Edited 4/3/12 11:19am]

Toure is not even a good interview or an article writer. I still scratch my head at his writes for Rolling Stone. He writes on the level of a second grader to me. Why does he even have a job is what I wanna know...

With few exceptions most of the talent on tv is substandard and infotainment has all but replaced actual news. It's part of the dumbing down process.

They are both lightweights, It's Larry King's old show fer cryin out loud...all Morgan did was remind Toure that both of them are swimming in the same cesspool when he pathetically tried to claim some moral high ground.

Where Toure screwed up the most was trying to attack Morgan based on his nationality, after which Morgan wiped the floor with his ass with the full sympathy of his audience.

babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

Toure is not even a good interview or an article writer. I still scratch my head at his writes for Rolling Stone. He writes on the level of a second grader to me. Why does he even have a job is what I wanna know...

With few exceptions most of the talent on tv is substandard and infotainment has all but replaced actual news. It's part of the dumbing down process.

They are both lightweights, It's Larry King's old show fer cryin out loud...all Morgan did was remind Toure that both of them are swimming in the same cesspool when he pathetically tried to claim some moral high ground.

Where Toure screwed up the most was trying to attack Morgan based on his nationality, after which Morgan wiped the floor with his ass with the full sympathy of his audience.

Toure is just a bitch...