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Thread started 04/25/12 11:57pm

Ottensen

Should Nadya Suleman's Children Be Removed from their Home?

After the story that began circulating in the press yesterday about the living conditions of the children, I'd say that it's time for Child Protective Services to step in, and that this woman also appears to be in need of psychiatric help of some sort. In the meantime, is her fertility doctor still allowed to practice? It seems he demonstrated such gross negilence in helping this woman concieve 14 children, I would be surprised if he hasn't come up for review under the American Medical Association or just plain had his license revoked. Anyhoo: is it time to take the children away into safer care while this obviously mentally disturbed woman is using money for $200+ haircuts instead of getting proper plumbing in her house? Discuss. coffee

Octomom Investigated by CPS After Complaints Her Home Has No Plumbing, 14 Kids Living in Squalor


One photo shows Suleman's kids dirty and in only t-shirts, as graffiti covers the backyard fence. (TMZ.com


Suleman and nine of her 14 kids. (Nathanael Jones/PacificCoastNews.com)Nadya "Octomom" Suleman is in danger of losing her 14 children after police paid a visit to her La Habra, California home on Tuesday night after her hairstylist visited her home to do her hair, found deplorable living conditions, and filed a complaint. Not only were the youngest of her brood, the 3-year-old octuplets, dirty and walking around barefoot in only T-shirts, but they were being forced to urinate and defecate in training potties set up in the backyard because the house's plumbing was not working, according to the stylist named Stephanie (who will not release her last name). Stephanie also took photographs, which have been obtained by TMZ, and claims that while she was giving Suleman a Brazilian blowout and haircut on April 18, the children were locked in a bedroom. In one photo Stephanie took, the mother-of-14 is shown happily flaunting her new 'do — for which she paid $520 (that includes two previous haircuts and $80 worth of product), despite the fact she's on welfare — while behind her a chair is wedged underneath a doorknob, as if it to keep the occupants inside.

Stephanie went to police to report the squalor she witnessed, which she says was difficult for her because she's a longtime friend of Suleman's, but she feels so terribly for the children. "The kids are in desperate need of help, and I tried to help and she's not open to anyone helping her," she told TMZ as she left the El Habra police station. "She thinks everything is fine with the kids, and it's not." When asked by the cameraman what exactly was wrong, she continued, "The kids don't wear clothes. I went over there yesterday and they're not wearing any pants. And they're outside in the freezing cold, it was 60 degrees, and they're shivering and she wouldn't let them come inside until they finished eating their dinner. It's just horrible."

In other photos Stephanie took inside the Suleman home — which has been desecrated with spray-painted graffiti, presumably by her older children — one room has tiny mattresses on the floor with no sheets or blankets, as well as two cribs. The kids, says Stephanie, "are sleeping on the floor. I offered her bunk beds. I said, 'We have bunk beds, you can take them.' She said, 'No, no I don't want them. We're ok right now. Everything's fine.' It's not fine! It's depressing, I want to cry."

On Tuesday night, three reps from Child Protective Services along with a police officer went to the Suleman home to investigate Stephanie's claims. In a video, children can be heard as the group repeatedly bangs on the front door until Suleman, 36, finally lets them in. Before the video cuts off, she can be heard telling them, "Excuse the graffiti." After an hour-and-a-half, CPS left after determining the children were not in immediate danger, but a spokesperson did tell TMZ the investigation is ongoing and there will be a follow-up visit to the Suleman home.

"I love those kids, but they're being neglected completely," says Stephanie. "[Suleman] needs help, she can't do this by herself. There's too many kids and they're not getting the help that they need. They're not getting attention, they're not even wearing clothes. The boys have girls' clothes on! I go over there and cut the kids' hair for free because you can't tell which ones are boys and which ones are girls, they all look the same!"

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Reply #1 posted 04/26/12 1:52am

BobGeorge909

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Sad thing is that so many people are willing to help, if she'd only let them.
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Reply #2 posted 04/26/12 2:51am

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BobGeorge909 said:

Sad thing is that so many people are willing to help, if she'd only let them.

After seeing some of Nadya Suleman's interviews, she actually seems delusional about how dire her circumstances are and the realities of how tough the road ahead will be for her as a single parent with 14 kids, this is why I err on the side of believing she might be mentally "incompetent", which in and of itself is alarming where the children's welfare is concerned.

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Reply #3 posted 04/26/12 3:22am

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she sure is evasive about being mental!!!

If there was a reality show about her and the kids, I would watch it, it would be interesting.

And no plastic surgery? Her belly has that classic apronectomy look, pulled down and TIGHT.

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Reply #4 posted 04/26/12 3:22am

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I think a main difference between her family and others is timeline.

My grandmother has 12 kids and was a single mother for many years. Her kids weren't all born at the same time though and brothers helped brothers, sisters helped sisters. My ma was primarily raised by her sister, Iris. Now Iris didn't have a full time job to finance this, nor was she a sole source of support for my ma...but it allowed my gramma to go out and earn. Not sure what its called but this concept isn't new and helped many large familes then and now. When one trumps nature tho, and pop 8 and 4 out at a time...lord help you. Her attempts at being self-sufficient will be futile and her children will be plagued with neglect...despite her desire to care for and love all of them. Love can only go so far without help and assistance.

Maybe she could start some kind of nanny internship program. Interview some candidates and allow them to work for.free in trade for in-the-trenches(to phrase it lightly) child care experience.
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Reply #5 posted 04/26/12 3:26am

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I think the idiom is; "It takes a village to raise a child...,". Well you got 14....we're looking at state status here.(not state as in the state needs to put hem in foster care)
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Reply #6 posted 04/26/12 3:32am

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Is her child with a harelip on a waiting list for treatment? I mean shouldn't that have been fixed by now? confuse

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Reply #7 posted 04/26/12 5:07am

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Of course the kids should be taken away. That woman is clearly a mental case. And that fertility doctor should lose his license.

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Reply #8 posted 04/26/12 5:15am

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even tho the thought of breaking up the kids would b just so sad - their welfare is more important and so is their safety

they need a proper home and she needs 2 b committed!!

WTF spending 580 on a hair do when there is no plumbing!!!! she obviously has zero priorities!!!!

poor kids sad

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