Deadcake said:

it's not that they can't see the difference it's probably that they really don't CARE that much

I watch shitty downloads that are all pixellated and the blacks look weird but it doesn't bother me

1. You wear glasses so your eyesight isn't good.

2. You don't own any movies so of course picture quality isn't that important to you.

The quotes I have read on this thread are "I don't really see a big difference" and "I can barely tell the difference in quality". Sounds to me like the upgrade they see is minimal more than they don't care. The change in PQ from DVD to blu-ray is definitely not minimal to me.

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Can't wait till my Jacob's Ladder blu-ray arrives... and although the script and plot sucks... the visual aspects of the Legend blu I ordered should be cool.

I think I'll run the entire Firefly series blu's while I work today.

HD BLu-ray IS WORTH THE LOOT. And it's not even that much loot.

ufoclub said:

Can't wait till my Jacob's Ladder blu-ray arrives... and although the script and plot sucks... the visual aspects of the Legend blu I ordered should be cool.

I think I'll run the entire Firefly series blu's while I work today.

HD BLu-ray IS WORTH THE LOOT. And it's not even that much loot.

Seriously, Blu-rays are just a few dollars more then regular DVDs, and there's always sales at Target, Beast Buy, Amazon, etc. Oh, & you'll love Legend on Blu-ray, it looks spectacular. One of my favorites of all time. The international version was just released, but in Region B btw.

runphilrun said:

ufoclub said:

Can't wait till my Jacob's Ladder blu-ray arrives... and although the script and plot sucks... the visual aspects of the Legend blu I ordered should be cool.

I think I'll run the entire Firefly series blu's while I work today.

HD BLu-ray IS WORTH THE LOOT. And it's not even that much loot.

Seriously, Blu-rays are just a few dollars more then regular DVDs, and there's always sales at Target, Beast Buy, Amazon, etc. Oh, & you'll love Legend on Blu-ray, it looks spectacular. One of my favorites of all time. The international version was just released, but in Region B btw.

I think the blu-ray has the Directors cut with the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack on it.

I also ordered the Star Wars set...

ufoclub said:

runphilrun said:

Seriously, Blu-rays are just a few dollars more then regular DVDs, and there's always sales at Target, Beast Buy, Amazon, etc. Oh, & you'll love Legend on Blu-ray, it looks spectacular. One of my favorites of all time. The international version was just released, but in Region B btw.

I think the blu-ray has the Directors cut with the Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack on it.

I also ordered the Star Wars set...

Right, the US version has the Theatrical and Director's cut. The Region B from Europe has the International & the Director's cut, so you may have to get both if you are a completist The pivotal scene where the unicorn's horn is returned to his head is only in the Theatrical version. Why Ridley Scott removed this from the other versions is a head scratcher.

sextonseven said:

My TV won't even play HD, so [fortunately?] I don't need to worry about this

Don't think it's worth the loot but the picture quality and sound is better

but if you have a good surround sound system as i do then regular dvds

will suffice. Just to illustrate how much i thought about blu ray's i have had

a PS3 for over a year now and i just bought my first blu ray during Wal Mart's

black friday sale and i got The Fantastic 4:Rise of the Silver Surfer and it's

great. A few weeks later i bought The Terminator:Rise of the Machines later for

4.77 but have yet to even open it. I love Blu Ray's but they aren't worth shelling

out 14 dollars for. I would just wait on them to drop from 5 to 7 bucks if i were

a Blu Ray maniac.

Deadcake said:

I CAN see the difference I just don't care that much

The glasses are for close-up stuff not the tv

I'm a weekly blu-ray renter - I don't buy or own movies, doesn't mean I'm not a consumer, mister

If you don't care then why did you get a blu-ray player in the first place? Does it cost the same to rent blu-rays as DVDs where you are because if not, it sounds like you are wasting your money.

You consume blu-rays and then regurgitate them back to the rental store. It's not the same.

sextonseven said:

Deadcake said:

I CAN see the difference I just don't care that much

The glasses are for close-up stuff not the tv

I'm a weekly blu-ray renter - I don't buy or own movies, doesn't mean I'm not a consumer, mister

If you don't care then why did you get a blu-ray player in the first place? Does it cost the same to rent blu-rays as DVDs where you are because if not, it sounds like you are wasting your money.

You consume blu-rays and then regurgitate them back to the rental store. It's not the same.

blu-ray player came with the TV

and YES, to rent them with the coupons on the back of supermarket receipts, they cost $2.95, just like a regular DVD.

ufoclub said:

blu-ray is on its way out, because the way of the future is not in having physical discs, but rather digital files that play in an app. But as of right now, nothing is better quality in your home than blu-ray unless you can afford a real digital cinema projection system like a true baller.

HD is the only way for media in terms of resolution. They stopped making SD tv's, and cable tv is slowly phasing out SD programming. Even youtube can get up to 1080p now.

Even indie filmmakers are now more and more shooting in higher than HD format and then downconverting to normal 1080p HD.

As for "worth the loot?"....blu-ray players are much cheaper than what DVD players cost in the same relative time in their consumer lifecycle. Blu-ray movies are dirt cheap used on Amazon, and feature great supplemental materials. I don't think it's about the loot!

4 years into the intro of DVD players into the market, a player still cost more than $300

right now (approx 4 years into mass blu-ray consumer promotion), you can get a Sony blu-ray player for $72.

I don't think blu-ray will go away completely, but I can see it becoming a niche market, consisting mainly of criterion-esque special editions of films and television series.

Nikademus said:

ufoclub said:

blu-ray is on its way out, because the way of the future is not in having physical discs, but rather digital files that play in an app. But as of right now, nothing is better quality in your home than blu-ray unless you can afford a real digital cinema projection system like a true baller.

HD is the only way for media in terms of resolution. They stopped making SD tv's, and cable tv is slowly phasing out SD programming. Even youtube can get up to 1080p now.

Even indie filmmakers are now more and more shooting in higher than HD format and then downconverting to normal 1080p HD.

As for "worth the loot?"....blu-ray players are much cheaper than what DVD players cost in the same relative time in their consumer lifecycle. Blu-ray movies are dirt cheap used on Amazon, and feature great supplemental materials. I don't think it's about the loot!

4 years into the intro of DVD players into the market, a player still cost more than $300

right now (approx 4 years into mass blu-ray consumer promotion), you can get a Sony blu-ray player for $72.

I don't think blu-ray will go away completely, but I can see it becoming a niche market, consisting mainly of criterion-esque special editions of films and television series.

Yes, blu-ray in the future will be like vinyl records today--still made for collectors, but no longer the primary medium.

sextonseven said:

Nikademus said:

I don't think blu-ray will go away completely, but I can see it becoming a niche market, consisting mainly of criterion-esque special editions of films and television series.

Yes, blu-ray in the future will be like vinyl records today--still made for collectors, but no longer the primary medium.

just like laser discs

I see a statue of Pazuzu in the movie "Legend"!

Deadcake said:

sextonseven said:

Yes, blu-ray in the future will be like vinyl records today--still made for collectors, but no longer the primary medium.

just like laser discs

It's time for you with your bad eyesight and nonexistent movie collection to leave this thread.

sextonseven said:

Deadcake said:

sextonseven said:

It's time for you with your bad eyesight and nonexistent movie collection to leave this thread.

Shut up idiot

I still have laserdiscs and a working player. I got "3 Chains of Gold" "Diamonds and Pearls" "Romance 1600 concert" and "Prince and the Revolution Live" on laserdisc.

Boy, compared to DVD, they suck in quality! But they sure were better than VHS back in the day.

ufoclub said:

Deadcake said:

Thank you - yeah, I mean they were a thing that collectors latched onto and enthused over, probably long past DVDs came out!

I thought you were being funny. Because laserdiscs stopped being made around ten years ago I'd say--look at the ones ufoclub says he owns--while vinyl editions of new albums are still being manufactured today and have actually increased in sales over the last few years. So vinyl records are not like laserdiscs at all.

sextonseven said:

Deadcake said:

I was being facetious, I know nothing about laserdisc - once I saw one at someone's house (a real fanboy collector type) in the 90s and prior to that didn't know they existed. How long have DVDs been around? I'm surprised laserdiscs were still being made 10 years ago

I take back my fishslap. I thought you were goofing on me saying blu-ray in the future will be like laserdiscs now--DEAD.

I watched the Powell & Pressinger film the Red Shoes on Blu-Ray over the weekend. Criterion did an execellent job restoring the film since the quality looks amazing for a film that was originally released in 1948.

runphilrun said:

I watched the Powell & Pressinger film the Red Shoes on Blu-Ray over the weekend. Criterion did an execellent job restoring the film since the quality looks amazing for a film that was originally released in 1948.

I have The Red Shoes on blu-ray. I watched it on a projector and it looked stunning. Criterion almost always do an excellent job with their releases. I got their La Jetée/Sans Soleil blu-ray in the mail last week. I've seen La Jetée before on DVD, but not the other film.

sextonseven said:

Deadcake said:

I was being facetious, I know nothing about laserdisc - once I saw one at someone's house (a real fanboy collector type) in the 90s and prior to that didn't know they existed. How long have DVDs been around? I'm surprised laserdiscs were still being made 10 years ago

I take back my fishslap. I thought you were goofing on me saying blu-ray in the future will be like laserdiscs now--DEAD.

But that is true, because physical discs are what will likely die out (and are dying out in favor of media file transfer to hard drive and on demand), not the format of the file itself. Also 1080p is now the best consumer format, but we're all set to go with even more resolution in the near future. they are working on higher resolution consumer formats.

What's happened with the music industry (the move to mp3's and itunes type stores) will probably happen with movies too.

On another note:

I can honestly say that now going to the movie theater and having a dim projector is worse than seeing it at home on a 52" tv on blu-ray or HD cable with a hign end sound multi-speaker sound system. If the projector is up to par, and the sound is precise, then you still can't beat a theater, but we truly have brought that kind of quality in the home.

This is probably why movie attendance is dipping down per person (even though ticket prices are up).

ufoclub said:

What's happened with the music industry (the move to mp3's and itunes type stores) will probably happen with movies too.

This is exactly what I'm saying. What has happened in the music industry is that digital files are now the primary format for albums while physical media like vinyl is still being produced, but in very low quantities for collectors only. That is what I think will happen with film. Most people will be streaming/downloading, but there will still be a few hardcore collectors out there still buying their movies on disc.

Streaming/downloading is going to have to improve a lot before I'll ever get on board. I find the compression and just generally poor quality unwatchable. It's blu-ray all the way for me, for a long time!

The downside is, every video store within a thousand miles of me has folded, which means I don't get to see new movies unless I buy them first, or go to the cinema. And when it just cost me $84 to take a party of three to The Phantom Menace 3D (including popcorn and pops), I don't think I'll be going back anytime soon!

Oh - and I can't tolerate watching dvds anymore, either.

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Streaming and Downloading is for the casual movie fan not the movie buffs who appreciate movies as an art form. Criterion here in the US and others in Europe like Masters of Cinema and Studio Canal release incredible movies mostly classics from Directors lile Lynch, Bunuel, Hitchcok, Kurosawa in the best possible quality, packaged beautifully with booklets, commentary on the discs, everything! I also love tactile experience you get with a physical medium. You'll never get that through a compressed streaming video.

runphilrun said:

Streaming and Downloading is for the casual movie fan not the movie buffs who appreciate movies as an art form. Criterion here in the US and others in Europe like Masters of Cinema and Studio Canal release incredible movies mostly classics from Directors lile Lynch, Bunuel, Hitchcok, Kurosawa in the best possible quality, packaged beautifully with booklets, commentary on the discs, everything! I also love tactile experience you get with a physical medium. You'll never get that through a compressed streaming video.

Exactly.

eyewishuheaven said:

Streaming/downloading is going to have to improve a lot before I'll ever get on board. I find the compression and just generally poor quality unwatchable. It's blu-ray all the way for me, for a long time!

The downside is, every video store within a thousand miles of me has folded, which means I don't get to see new movies unless I buy them first, or go to the cinema. And when it just cost me $84 to take a party of three to The Phantom Menace 3D (including popcorn and pops), I don't think I'll be going back anytime soon!

Oh - and I can't tolerate watching dvds anymore, either.

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U could have invested that $84.00 into a HD projector and get up to 300 inches at your house. Way better than going 2 the movies.

The movies I would want to see are not on blue ray.