alphastreet said:

Natives are stigmatized till this day and never fully recovered from how they were treated in the past, and no one seems to give a damn.

Well, this thread seems to contradict that.

Try to focus on the good and productive initiatives that make a difference. Can't change the past anymore, can change the future.

Dave1992 said:

Take the fat kids' food and give it to the poor and hungry. You have plenty of fat kids in America, that should work out fine!

This comment doesn't surprise me one bit coming from you.

http://www.worldvision.or...ode=hunger

I have donated here and it was well worth it!

might I suggest breast feeding?

GetAwayFromMe said:

You weren't watching Dr. Oz and crying like a baby like I was today, were you?

I am thinking about looking into it also.

This got me thinking....

if you called the Dr. Oz show, or emailed them they may link you to many charities in your area. I am sure they were flooded with calls from people who want to actively help.

I am sure they will contact you with information you seek regarding this matter since they helped to raise awareness.

BlackAdder7 said:

might I suggest breast feeding?

So you can claim poverty and suck some breasts too?

Dave1992 said:

Deadflow3r said:

fat kids ARE the poor kids

healthy food does not make you fat.

white pasta, rice, potatoes, crackers, roman noodles, hot dogs are all very inexpensive here in America and make poor kids fat.

We don't have skinny poor kids her in America

We have fat poor kids and slim wealthier ones.

The poorest states therefore are also the fatest states.

Interesting.

Make them go vegetarian (including not consuming animal fat) for a year or two. Make them do sports. Make them learn an instrument at school or at least be in touch with music (it will increase their awareness in life which will also affect their selfawareness)!

you sometimes come across as an ill informed, immature and priveleged idiot, Dave.

not sure what the poor are like over in Europe, but going vegetarian, doing sports and learning an instrument aren't exactly "available" to poor children here in the states.

I don't pretend to know what the fuck is going on in your little country because I don't live there, so I don't know. Yet I constantly see you acting like you know what the fuck is up with the States and how it's run. STFU already.

I'm cranky lately, too. I just read that and it's quite rude and harsh. I apologize for being so mean, Dave. I just wish you were a little more open to understanding our way of life instead of just assuming you know it and the answers. Nutrition and exercise for the poor here are virtually non existent.

Mach, I'm sure you will find a wonderful local organization to plug into.

Charity Navigator can be a great resource as you decide who to partner with.

They are an independent charity evaluator. http://www.charitynavigator.org/

JerseyKRS said:

I'm cranky lately, too. I just read that and it's quite rude and harsh. I apologize for being so mean, Dave. I just wish you were a little more open to understanding our way of life instead of just assuming you know it and the answers. Nutrition and exercise for the poor here are virtually non existent.

It's not my fault you're living in a shitty country. I never pretended I understand everything about "your way of life" and, frankly, I don't have to know much to understand I should be grateful for being able to live in my little, powerless, cissy-healthcare country.

The threadstarter asked for solutions, I gave one satiric and one simple, straight-forward, honest suggestion. If that's not possible in the U.S., do something about it! It's not my fault and I can't and won't change it from here. I never said nutrition and exercise for the poor are easily available in the U.S.; I offered suggestions about what would be best in my opinion. It's up to your country to do something about it and make it possible if you share my opinion and think that it would be a good idea.

And, Sir, I think I'm quite an open-minded person and if I meet cool people and this topic comes up I'll probably think about my answers a little longer, but that's hardly ever use on the org.

Thanks for apologising. Still, you're a grown-up and even a little oh-so-arrogant and narrow-minded child like me would not provide an answer like your previous post.

BlackAdder7 said:

might I suggest breast feeding? i volunteer to help you warm them up.

that line works everytime

Dave1992 said:

Thanks for apologising. Still, you're a grown-up and even a little oh-so-arrogant and narrow-minded child like me would not provide an answer like your previous post.

But you would post on a thread about feeding hungry children with nasty comments about fat American children and no constructive help. Please stop posting on this thread unless you have an answer to the OP. This is a real and heartbreaking issue that I've seen the effects of with my own eyes, Dave.

Thanks.

Dave1992 said:

JerseyKRS said:

I'm cranky lately, too. I just read that and it's quite rude and harsh. I apologize for being so mean, Dave. I just wish you were a little more open to understanding our way of life instead of just assuming you know it and the answers. Nutrition and exercise for the poor here are virtually non existent.

It's not my fault you're living in a shitty country. I never pretended I understand everything about "your way of life" and, frankly, I don't have to know much to understand I should be grateful for being able to live in my little, powerless, cissy-healthcare country.

The threadstarter asked for solutions, I gave one satiric and one simple, straight-forward, honest suggestion. If that's not possible in the U.S., do something about it! It's not my fault and I can't and won't change it from here. I never said nutrition and exercise for the poor are easily available in the U.S.; I offered suggestions about what would be best in my opinion. It's up to your country to do something about it and make it possible if you share my opinion and think that it would be a good idea.

And, Sir, I think I'm quite an open-minded person and if I meet cool people and this topic comes up I'll probably think about my answers a little longer, but that's hardly ever use on the org.

Thanks for apologising. Still, you're a grown-up and even a little oh-so-arrogant and narrow-minded child like me would not provide an answer like your previous post.

Are you feeling o.k,kid?

Do you not understand how offensive and arrogant your posts in this thread are?

You call the USA a "shitty country"?

I hope that comment works out well for you as I'm sure you just lost alot of your "fans" here with that mess.

Your behaviour in this thread has been completely cringeworthy.

Next time let the adults handle these types of threads.

You obviously are too immature and full of yourself to add anything constructive.

Judging from the amount of self-serving photos you plaster this forum with,you obviously think yourself to be quite pretty..the best advise I can give your little Austrian ass is "it's whats on the inside that counts".

Machaela said:

Thank you ~

Some interesting thoughts shared ( and links ! ) and good ideas

I am going to look into them and also see if I can find a very local / backyard group right here where I live ! There are so many children that need help

http://nokidhungry.org/northcarolina.html

This is an organization in NC, I believe that's the area you're in?

Dave1992 said:

Deadflow3r said:

fat kids ARE the poor kids

healthy food does not make you fat.

white pasta, rice, potatoes, crackers, roman noodles, hot dogs are all very inexpensive here in America and make poor kids fat.

We don't have skinny poor kids her in America

We have fat poor kids and slim wealthier ones.

The poorest states therefore are also the fatest states.

Interesting.

Make them go vegetarian (including not consuming animal fat) for a year or two. Make them do sports. Make them learn an instrument at school or at least be in touch with music (it will increase their awareness in life which will also affect their selfawareness)!

These ideas would work but they would not profit the large corporations that run this country.

Sort of like the breast milk comment.

I breastfed my baby and was a breast feeding peer-support mother at WIC (wic is women, infants children and it provides vouchers for milk and other food for pregnant women and children 4 and under)

Anyway,the biggest purchasers of baby formula are women with wic vouchers.

of every piece of packaged food bought in USA only 15 cents is the actual cost of the food, the rest is the cost of marketing , packaging and the middle men.

Fresh vegetables may give food to the poor but where is the kick back for the middle man?

So much is done in this country in disguise of helping the poor, like most of the clean up effort in New Orleans, that is really just a money maker for those who already have money.

Children who are involved with sports and music are less likely to reproduce, do drugs while in high school or drop out of high school. So if we really cared about poor children we would do this, but we don't.

If we really cared about our poor in this country we would do things differently.

We Americans like to fly off to other countries and have our picture taken helping other poor people, who we will soon forget once they no longer are the hip country to help.

We remove the puss of problems but never stay long enough to route out the actual infection.

Deadflow3r said:

Dave1992 said:

Interesting.

Make them go vegetarian (including not consuming animal fat) for a year or two. Make them do sports. Make them learn an instrument at school or at least be in touch with music (it will increase their awareness in life which will also affect their selfawareness)!

These ideas would work but they would not profit the large corporations that run this country.

Sort of like the breast milk comment.

I breastfed my baby and was a breast feeding peer-support mother at WIC (wic is women, infants children and it provides vouchers for milk and other food for pregnant women and children 4 and under)

Anyway,the biggest purchasers of baby formula are women with wic vouchers.

of every piece of packaged food bought in USA only 15 cents is the actual cost of the food, the rest is the cost of marketing , packaging and the middle men.

Fresh vegetables may give food to the poor but where is the kick back for the middle man?

So much is done in this country in disguise of helping the poor, like most of the clean up effort in New Orleans, that is really just a money maker for those who already have money.

Children who are involved with sports and music are less likely to reproduce, do drugs while in high school or drop out of high school. So if we really cared about poor children we would do this, but we don't.

If we really cared about our poor in this country we would do things differently.

We Americans like to fly off to other countries and have our picture taken helping other poor people, who we will soon forget once they no longer are the hip country to help.

We remove the puss of problems but never stay long enough to route out the actual infection.

Can we also address the fact that you can't MAKE a child become a vegetarian or do sports or play an instrument???

PunkMistress said:

Dave1992 said:

Thanks for apologising. Still, you're a grown-up and even a little oh-so-arrogant and narrow-minded child like me would not provide an answer like your previous post.

But you would post on a thread about feeding hungry children with nasty comments about fat American children and no constructive help. Please stop posting on this thread unless you have an answer to the OP. This is a real and heartbreaking issue that I've seen the effects of with my own eyes, Dave.

Thanks.

Come on, this is the org and you find a lot of satire and "nasty comments" in every thread. I know this is a heart-breaking issue (I also care a lot about those problems and try to do good as much as I can). I'm sorry if my comments distracted some of you, but please relax. Those comments are empty and do not do any actual harm.

mask said:

Dave1992 said:

It's not my fault you're living in a shitty country. I never pretended I understand everything about "your way of life" and, frankly, I don't have to know much to understand I should be grateful for being able to live in my little, powerless, cissy-healthcare country.

The threadstarter asked for solutions, I gave one satiric and one simple, straight-forward, honest suggestion. If that's not possible in the U.S., do something about it! It's not my fault and I can't and won't change it from here. I never said nutrition and exercise for the poor are easily available in the U.S.; I offered suggestions about what would be best in my opinion. It's up to your country to do something about it and make it possible if you share my opinion and think that it would be a good idea.

And, Sir, I think I'm quite an open-minded person and if I meet cool people and this topic comes up I'll probably think about my answers a little longer, but that's hardly ever use on the org.

Thanks for apologising. Still, you're a grown-up and even a little oh-so-arrogant and narrow-minded child like me would not provide an answer like your previous post.

Are you feeling o.k,kid?

Do you not understand how offensive and arrogant your posts in this thread are?

You call the USA a "shitty country"?

I hope that comment works out well for you as I'm sure you just lost alot of your "fans" here with that mess.

Your behaviour in this thread has been completely cringeworthy.

Next time let the adults handle these types of threads.

You obviously are too immature and full of yourself to add anything constructive.

Judging from the amount of self-serving photos you plaster this forum with,you obviously think yourself to be quite pretty..the best advise I can give your little Austrian ass is "it's whats on the inside that counts".

Yes, I am, thank you. I was answering to Jersey's post and he openly "admitted" your country is shitty. There are a lot of nice people living in the U.S. and a lot of cool things going on, but this special thing about your powerful country is shitty (and that's an understatement). If you feel personally offended, then you are actually being arrogant and blind and then I feel sorry for you.

And @ "let the adults handle this thread". You look desperate and like a complete idiot writing such a thing. You are being arrogant.

And yes, let's talk about my looks. You seem to know a lot about how to discuss things like a proper adult and with style. I don't post many pics of myself and I don't judge people who post more.

Thanks for your advice, but please, leave me alone. I understand you and you want to be all wise and shit, but you're acting like double the fool I make the impression of being.

I'm sorry y'all.

I like touching extremes on the internet, but I try to be much more sensitive in my approach in "real life". I can't expect all of you to understand or react in a light-hearted way, or use the opportunity to show how good you yourself are - I'm really not trying to hurt anybody or all anybody out, but some of you seem to be obsessed with telling me how wrong and immature I am, just so that people see how mature you are. Please stop this pride and fight for "being right". This is the org.

And, Mask, darling. I'm not arrogant. My internet presence is just a bit too flamboyant for your liking, probably. I'm also not full of myself and people who know me personally can tell you it's the truth. I'm not looking for your admiration, I would just love if you could stop acting the way you do, trying to hurt me and call me out. It's useless and stupid and doesn't pay off (unless it really makes you feel better...).

^Stop whining,man-up and take responsibility for the callous statements you made within this thread.

As much as you would like it to,this thread doesn't have a damn thing to do with "your looks',this thread is to help feed starving children.

mask said:

^Stop whining,man-up and take responsibility for the callous statements you made within this thread.

As much as you would like it to,this thread doesn't have a damn thing to do with "your looks',this thread is to help feed starving children.

You're talking in chlichés - "man-up". Not very adult, is it? I'm not whining, I do take responsibility for what I post (can you read?). For god's sake, YOU were the one bringing up my looks! I think you're a bit confused.

I'll take a couple of minutes to think about this tomorrow and then I'll try to post something productive. Sorry for the off-topic discussion.

And mask, if you want to be telling others to "grow up", do so yourself first.

Per the local United Way...

Dave1992 said:

Take the fat kids' food and give it to the poor and hungry. You have plenty of fat kids in America, that should work out fine!

This has to be the dumbest, most ignorant comment ever ......Big Gratz...........

People who cannot afford to eat luxury foods, end up unhealthy because they eat shit, packed with salt, fats and other unpleasant crap.

Here in the UK our wonderful Gov't jacked up the prices of cheap "Junk Food" thinking it would force poorer families into eating healthier. What a fucked up moronic 'private school dickhead' idea that was. What they should have done is reduced VAT / Taxes on healthier foods, made it more affordable, because in a real world, with common sense educated people, that is the correct thing to do, but nope, as usual teh silver spoon morons with limited mental capacity to view the real world as it is, the one from ground level and not the one where caviar is part of your five a day, they would have seen this the correct way to go. But hey, why should the Gov't give a shit, if you eat unhealthily and get obese, you gonna die sooner and all that shit you pay into your pensions, those mofo's in Gov't get to keep so it is a win win for them.

itsnotallover said:

Dave1992 said:

Take the fat kids' food and give it to the poor and hungry. You have plenty of fat kids in America, that should work out fine!

This has to be the dumbest, most ignorant comment ever ......Big Gratz...........

People who cannot afford to eat luxury foods, end up unhealthy because they eat shit, packed with salt, fats and other unpleasant crap.

Here in the UK our wonderful Gov't jacked up the prices of cheap "Junk Food" thinking it would force poorer families into eating healthier. What a fucked up moronic 'private school dickhead' idea that was. What they should have done is reduced VAT / Taxes on healthier foods, made it more affordable, because in a real world, with common sense educated people, that is the correct thing to do, but nope, as usual teh silver spoon morons with limited mental capacity to view the real world as it is, the one from ground level and not the one where caviar is part of your five a day, they would have seen this the correct way to go. But hey, why should the Gov't give a shit, if you eat unhealthily and get obese, you gonna die sooner and all that shit you pay into your pensions, those mofo's in Gov't get to keep so it is a win win for them.

Ineffective policy isn't the distinct right of people born with a silver spoon in their mouth.

Over here in Holland, the government is formed with somebody not from a 'classy' family, Geert Wilders. And he comes up with the most stupid ideas of the century. Blaming foreigners from Islamic countries for all our problems.

Politics is present, and therefore their stupidity too. As long as there is some form of democracy that is. However, I have a tendency not to stay focused on the topic of the thread.

Let's not derail.

It's about what people can do for the poor kids in America. How can they help?

And I really apreciate the op her efforts in helping out and not leaving it to others.

dJJ said:

itsnotallover said:

This has to be the dumbest, most ignorant comment ever ......Big Gratz...........

People who cannot afford to eat luxury foods, end up unhealthy because they eat shit, packed with salt, fats and other unpleasant crap.

Here in the UK our wonderful Gov't jacked up the prices of cheap "Junk Food" thinking it would force poorer families into eating healthier. What a fucked up moronic 'private school dickhead' idea that was. What they should have done is reduced VAT / Taxes on healthier foods, made it more affordable, because in a real world, with common sense educated people, that is the correct thing to do, but nope, as usual teh silver spoon morons with limited mental capacity to view the real world as it is, the one from ground level and not the one where caviar is part of your five a day, they would have seen this the correct way to go. But hey, why should the Gov't give a shit, if you eat unhealthily and get obese, you gonna die sooner and all that shit you pay into your pensions, those mofo's in Gov't get to keep so it is a win win for them.

Ineffective policy isn't the distinct right of people born with a silver spoon in their mouth.

Over here in Holland, the government is formed with somebody not from a 'classy' family, Geert Wilders. And he comes up with the most stupid ideas of the century. Blaming foreigners from Islamic countries for all our problems.

Politics is present, and therefore their stupidity too. As long as there is some form of democracy that is. However, I have a tendency not to stay focused on the topic of the thread.

Let's not derail.

It's about what people can do for the poor kids in America. How can they help?

And I really apreciate the op her efforts in helping out and not leaving it to others.

Well, I am fairly sure that in the last several Decades, none of our leaders ever came from the Coalmines.............

And at no point did I make any negative comment to the OP's efforts. I was responding to the moronic comment left by Dave1992 who seems to think that poor people sit all day shoving Big Macs down their throats and sluggin Cola's.........

P.S Yeah your leader is a numpty, Islam is apparently the cause of everything in your home country.........Scary really, almost a full reflection of a hitleresque leadership there (Based on hatred of a particular ethnicity / religion) thnk about it

itsnotallover said:

Dave1992 said:

Take the fat kids' food and give it to the poor and hungry. You have plenty of fat kids in America, that should work out fine!

This has to be the dumbest, most ignorant comment ever ......Big Gratz...........

People who cannot afford to eat luxury foods, end up unhealthy because they eat shit, packed with salt, fats and other unpleasant crap.

Here in the UK our wonderful Gov't jacked up the prices of cheap "Junk Food" thinking it would force poorer families into eating healthier. What a fucked up moronic 'private school dickhead' idea that was. What they should have done is reduced VAT / Taxes on healthier foods, made it more affordable, because in a real world, with common sense educated people, that is the correct thing to do, but nope, as usual teh silver spoon morons with limited mental capacity to view the real world as it is, the one from ground level and not the one where caviar is part of your five a day, they would have seen this the correct way to go. But hey, why should the Gov't give a shit, if you eat unhealthily and get obese, you gonna die sooner and all that shit you pay into your pensions, those mofo's in Gov't get to keep so it is a win win for them.

It was meant to come across as dumb and ignorant and was not to be taken seriously. It's called sarcasm.

dJJ said:

alphastreet said:

Natives are stigmatized till this day and never fully recovered from how they were treated in the past, and no one seems to give a damn.

Well, this thread seems to contradict that.

Try to focus on the good and productive initiatives that make a difference. Can't change the past anymore, can change the future.

I know there are people who want to better the situation, I just get sad hearing about it cause of documentaries I've seen about it in the past as well.

Dave1992 said:

itsnotallover said:

This has to be the dumbest, most ignorant comment ever ......Big Gratz...........

People who cannot afford to eat luxury foods, end up unhealthy because they eat shit, packed with salt, fats and other unpleasant crap.

Here in the UK our wonderful Gov't jacked up the prices of cheap "Junk Food" thinking it would force poorer families into eating healthier. What a fucked up moronic 'private school dickhead' idea that was. What they should have done is reduced VAT / Taxes on healthier foods, made it more affordable, because in a real world, with common sense educated people, that is the correct thing to do, but nope, as usual teh silver spoon morons with limited mental capacity to view the real world as it is, the one from ground level and not the one where caviar is part of your five a day, they would have seen this the correct way to go. But hey, why should the Gov't give a shit, if you eat unhealthily and get obese, you gonna die sooner and all that shit you pay into your pensions, those mofo's in Gov't get to keep so it is a win win for them.

It was meant to come across as dumb and ignorant and was not to be taken seriously. It's called sarcasm.

Aaah, well, you might want to use some smileys then Helps seperate serious from sarcastic / silly posts

PurpleJedi said:

Deadflow3r said:

These ideas would work but they would not profit the large corporations that run this country.

Sort of like the breast milk comment.

I breastfed my baby and was a breast feeding peer-support mother at WIC (wic is women, infants children and it provides vouchers for milk and other food for pregnant women and children 4 and under)

Anyway,the biggest purchasers of baby formula are women with wic vouchers.

of every piece of packaged food bought in USA only 15 cents is the actual cost of the food, the rest is the cost of marketing , packaging and the middle men.

Fresh vegetables may give food to the poor but where is the kick back for the middle man?

So much is done in this country in disguise of helping the poor, like most of the clean up effort in New Orleans, that is really just a money maker for those who already have money.

Children who are involved with sports and music are less likely to reproduce, do drugs while in high school or drop out of high school. So if we really cared about poor children we would do this, but we don't.

If we really cared about our poor in this country we would do things differently.

We Americans like to fly off to other countries and have our picture taken helping other poor people, who we will soon forget once they no longer are the hip country to help.

We remove the puss of problems but never stay long enough to route out the actual infection.

Can we also address the fact that you can't MAKE a child become a vegetarian or do sports or play an instrument???

Truth is the apple does not fall from the tree.

Both my parents hated peas. However my mother bought them and fed them to her kids becuse she believed that just because you don't like something doesn't mean your kids won't like it.

Parents who don't eat enough vegetables may not cook enough vegetables for their kids. They too have to be encouraged. Parents who would really prefer to spend time with their TV, or internet, or nintendo are not going to be so enthusiastic about the child getting involved in activities that they may have to help get them to or actually go and watch.

No, an adult can not make a child do anything, but if parents sign them up and act enthusiastic and have an "I am proud of you" "we are in this together" attitude, the child will most likely not become a carb loving couch potato.

I don't think kids afterschool activities should rule a parents life. I see that side of it too. Some point in between the couch potato family and the helicopter moms would be nice.

itsnotallover said:

Dave1992 said:

It was meant to come across as dumb and ignorant and was not to be taken seriously. It's called sarcasm.

Aaah, well, you might want to use some smileys then Helps seperate serious from sarcastic / silly posts

I know... but then again, smileys can take away a lot of the shocking value of a sarcastic statement, know what I mean? They often "defuse" the joke immediately...