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PurpleJedi

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Sometimes it's healthy to be full of sh*t

'Fecal Transplants' Show Promise for Gastrointestinal Ills

TUESDAY, Nov. 1 (HealthDay News) -- They sound disgusting, but doctors say "fecal transplants" -- once shunned by the medical establishment -- are proving useful against a range of gastrointestinal ailments, new research says.

Presenting at the American College of Gastroenterology annual meeting in Washington, D.C., researchers report that the therapy can ease severe irritable bowel syndrome and nasty bacterial infections.

Fecal microbiota transplant (FMT) involves taking feces from a donor, typically a spouse or relative though it could be anyone, after a light colonoscopy prep.

That sample is then mixed "with some saline so that it's a consistency that can be aspirated into 60 cc syringes," explained Dr. Mark Mellow, one of the researchers presenting findings at the meeting.

The patient then undergoes a routine colonoscopy during which the mixture is inserted. The idea is that this new, transplanted population of healthy flora will correct the patient's underlying problem and it does seem to work.

Some of the most encouraging research comes in the form of three studies which demonstrated the procedure's effectiveness against recalcitrant infection with the bacterium Clostridium difficile. The bug can cause disabling and even life-threatening diarrhea, nausea, vomiting and abdominal pain.

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Reply #1 posted 11/04/11 12:06pm

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Seriously....am I the only one demented enough to think it's funny to go to the doctor to get sh*t stuck up your @ss?

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Reply #2 posted 11/04/11 12:11pm

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WTF?! Taking shit out of one person's ass and putting in another person's ass all for some damn flora?

What happened to eating yogurt and taking acidolphilus supplements?

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Reply #3 posted 11/04/11 12:17pm

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HotGritz said:

WTF?! Taking shit out of one person's ass and putting in another person's ass all for some damn flora?

What happened to eating yogurt and taking acidolphilus supplements?

You know?

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Reply #4 posted 11/04/11 12:21pm

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Poop! :shake:

The words feces and mixture should NEVER go together. lol
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Reply #5 posted 11/04/11 12:25pm

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For real.. neutral How did they EVER come up with this anyway?? "hey frankie, lets shove some of my shit up your ass and see what happens!!" biggrin

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Reply #6 posted 11/04/11 12:25pm

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KidaDynamite said:

Poop! shake The words feces and mixture should NEVER go together. lol

At least not when it comes to a mixture being inserted into YOU!

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Reply #7 posted 11/04/11 12:26pm

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tinaz said:

For real.. neutral How did they EVER come up with this anyway?? "hey frankie, lets shove some of my shit up your ass and see what happens!!" biggrin

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...and who was the first test subject...and how much did they PAY HIM!!!

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Reply #8 posted 11/04/11 12:27pm

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PurpleJedi said:

tinaz said:

For real.. neutral How did they EVER come up with this anyway?? "hey frankie, lets shove some of my shit up your ass and see what happens!!" biggrin

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...and who was the first test subject...and how much did they PAY HIM!!!

I know! Crazy ass people!! lol

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Reply #9 posted 11/04/11 12:38pm

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Next thing you know they will be doing snot transplants to stave off congestion.

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Reply #10 posted 11/04/11 12:41pm

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HotGritz said:

WTF?! Taking shit out of one person's ass and putting in another person's ass all for some damn flora?

What happened to eating yogurt and taking acidolphilus supplements?

Intestinal flora is a heck of a lot more complicated than the couple of strains you get from eating yogurt.

Sweetie has suffered with Crohn's disease for nearly 30 years. If there was any chance that something like this would work, he'd be at his gastroenterologist's office within the hour.

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Reply #11 posted 11/04/11 12:41pm

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HotGritz said:

Next thing you know they will be doing snot transplants to stave off congestion.

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Reply #12 posted 11/04/11 12:42pm

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Genesia said:

HotGritz said:

WTF?! Taking shit out of one person's ass and putting in another person's ass all for some damn flora?

What happened to eating yogurt and taking acidolphilus supplements?

Intestinal flora is a heck of a lot more complicated than the couple of strains you get from eating yogurt.

Sweetie has suffered with Crohn's disease for nearly 30 years. If there was any chance that something like this would work, he'd be at his gastroenterologist's office within the hour.

hmmm

I thought we all GOT our intestinal flora via the foods we ate???

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Reply #13 posted 11/04/11 12:45pm

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PurpleJedi said:

Genesia said:

Intestinal flora is a heck of a lot more complicated than the couple of strains you get from eating yogurt.

Sweetie has suffered with Crohn's disease for nearly 30 years. If there was any chance that something like this would work, he'd be at his gastroenterologist's office within the hour.

hmmm

I thought we all GOT our intestinal flora via the foods we ate???

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YEP. And likewise, the foods we eat can kill our intestinal flora. Antibiotics are no friend to the little guys either.

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Reply #14 posted 11/04/11 12:47pm

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PurpleJedi said:

Genesia said:

Intestinal flora is a heck of a lot more complicated than the couple of strains you get from eating yogurt.

Sweetie has suffered with Crohn's disease for nearly 30 years. If there was any chance that something like this would work, he'd be at his gastroenterologist's office within the hour.

hmmm

I thought we all GOT our intestinal flora via the foods we ate???

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Uhhhhh...no. A lot of it is passed from person to person (babies get gut microbes from their mothers, for example) and via environmental routes other than food.

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Reply #15 posted 11/04/11 12:48pm

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ewww feeling ill

In all seriousness this could be interesting for a cure for colitis or crohn's disease too , maybe

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Reply #16 posted 11/04/11 12:53pm

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test post... im having probs

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Reply #17 posted 11/04/11 12:54pm

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tinaz said:

test post... im having probs

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Reply #18 posted 11/04/11 12:58pm

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http://www.thenakedscient...tion/2777/

Where does the intestinal flora originate? How does the intestinal flora develop in a foetus? In other words, this is the bacteria, the bugs that end up living inside our intestines. How did they get there? Where did they come from? Hillary Groom, via Facebook

Chris - The answer is that they come during your first moments of life. Unpleasant as it sounds, if you're a baby born the normal way, your first taste of life is a mouthful of muck, and it’s your mum’s muck, and it comes from the vagina, the perineum, and even from your mum’s bum because there are bacteria that live in that area, all over that area, and as the baby comes out, they go all over the baby’s face and mouth. They go then into the baby’s intestines and they take up residence in the baby’s gut.

If you look upon it in one way, this is the perfect way to make sure that the bugs that the baby gets inside it are ideal for the kind of food it’s going to be eating later, because the bugs mum has got are genetically right for her. They're also ideal for the kind of food she eats and subsequently, that's probably going to be the same food that the baby is going to eat when it’s weaned. So, it make sense to get those bugs and get them inside the baby, and they then take up the right sorts of numbers and densities over time.

By the time you're about early teenage, the spectrum of bugs that you've got living in you and on you are more unique to you than your own fingerprints. And they stay with you for life until you're about age 60 and then they begin to change a little bit as the immune system begins to weaken slightly and the spectrum of those bugs can alter. But yes, the spectrum of bugs that you carry is unique to you and no one else has quite that same spectrum. Even your identical twin, if they have a slightly different diet or environment, can have a slightly different spectrum of bugs.

http://www.womentowomen.c...otics.aspx

When we’re born our digestive tracts are completely sterile, but then we start to undergo “colonization” by an amazingly diverse array of microbes. Unfortunately, some of us get started off in life with less-than-optimal GI ecosystems, and by the age of about two (unless you move to another country or make drastic changes in your diet) your flora is more or less set. For others who begin with a healthy floral balance, microbial imbalances (aka dys-biosis) can develop later on: after a particularly stressful period in life, an illness, as a consequence of prescription meds, or even by way of a junk-food or drinking habit. Imbalanced gut flora can lead to gas, bloating, cramps, headaches, joint problems and more.

The exciting news is that scientific evidence suggests several opportunities to support our beneficial intestinal flora. For starters, we can simply eat plenty of plant foods. Taking a good probiotic and some other GI-supportive supplements is another easy, low-cost, nearly instantaneous way to gently make amends for any damage our intestinal colonies may have suffered along the way.

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Reply #19 posted 11/04/11 1:05pm

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Genesia said:

PurpleJedi said:

hmmm

I thought we all GOT our intestinal flora via the foods we ate???

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Uhhhhh...no. A lot of it is passed from person to person (babies get gut microbes from their mothers, for example) and via environmental routes other than food.

hmm

Interesting.

I never knew. (Thanks for the info HotGritz!)

So as gross as this sounds...I guess it could be of great help.

I know nothing of Crohn's...being as this is a new thing, perhaps it could help if his doctors become aware of it???

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Reply #20 posted 11/04/11 1:50pm

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Shit is much more useful than we give it credit for - it's great source of fuel, and also a great source of phages - which we'll need when all our antibiotics don't work anymore.

The sooner we get our shit about shit together, the better.

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Reply #21 posted 11/04/11 1:55pm

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AsylumUtopia said:

Shit is much more useful than we give it credit for - it's great source of fuel, and also a great source of phages - which we'll need when all our antibiotics don't work anymore.

The sooner we get our shit about shit together, the better.

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Reply #22 posted 11/04/11 1:58pm

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AsylumUtopia said:

Shit is much more useful than we give it credit for - it's great source of fuel, and also a great source of phages - which we'll need when all our antibiotics don't work anymore.

The sooner we get our shit about shit together, the better.

That's a shitty thing to say. lol

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Reply #23 posted 11/04/11 2:22pm

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crap! who would have guessed?

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hmmm so the "baby cheese" is a good thing for babies.... I wonder if C-section birthed children are affected by the cheeselessness.

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Reply #25 posted 11/05/11 6:40am

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paintedlady said:

hmmm so the "baby cheese" is a good thing for babies.... I wonder if C-section birthed children are affected by the cheeselessness.

hmmm

excellent question...

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Reply #26 posted 11/05/11 2:06pm

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HotGritz said:

WTF?! Taking shit out of one person's ass and putting in another person's ass all for some damn flora?

What happened to eating yogurt and taking acidolphilus supplements?

Or better yet, whatever happen to eating a high-fiber cereal or eating beans & rice?!?

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paintedlady said:

hmmm so the "baby cheese" is a good thing for babies.... I wonder if C-section birthed children are affected by the cheeselessness.

My niece was c-section and you coulda spread her on a cracker! it was THICK all over her... kinda gross.. lol

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Reply #28 posted 11/05/11 2:31pm

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More crazy and bizarre imagery to put in my head, thank you kind sir.

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Reply #29 posted 11/05/11 4:18pm

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PurpleJedi said:

Seriously....am I the only one demented enough to think it's funny to go to the doctor to get sh*t stuck up your @ss?

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My best friends Mom is in the death process ~ long and slow and very painful from simular issues

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Apologies ...

I just see no humor in it

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