Why do I even try to watch this freakin show? I just end up wanting to slap the crap out of the hoarders....I mean damn. Stop buying shit. These people are flipping out on people who are trying to help them make their homes livable, and in some cases, trying to help them from even losing children.

WTF!!!! I totally have no patience for this. I know its a sickness, but damn, how the hell you gonna have dead cats and shit under your junk and black mold on top of it and then fight somebody who is trying to throw it out?

Looking at this show is making me wanna clean out my bursting closet......

http://prince.org/msg/100/343427

This is the same exact thread as johnart's!

I can't even entertain that madness. Watching that show would make me break out. Clean House is bad enough, I had to stop watching that. Clutter and sheer nastiness skeeves me out.

I'm looking at a new episode....and dude is cussing at the cleaners....and get this. He picked all of his "valuables" from the neighborhood garbage cans and had his grandchildren doing it with him!!!! How in the world did this dude convince himself that it was normal behavior.

Over a thousand dolls? All in the boxes? This woman is sitting here saying she hoarded because she wanted to find a reason to live.

PunkMistress said:

http://prince.org/msg/100/343427

This is the same exact thread as johnart's!

I'm still gettin that show.

I have a friend who is a hoarder. I've tried to offer my help to de-clutter the place, but its too overwhelming. Worse part about it, my friend is compulsive about things being perfect.

[Edited 12/6/10 19:49pm]

I cannot watch those shows anymore. After JohnArt's thread I watches some of each Hoarders (A&E?) and another one called Hoarders: Buried Alive (TLC?). The episode that put me over the edge was when a woman had to relieve herself in plastic shopping bags and was just throwing them over the pile of stuff into a corner; I guess because either the water had been turned off (because the house was in danger of being condemned, which it ultimately was) or there was too much stuff and the bathroom was inaccessible, or both. I feel sick just thinking about it and the sheer desperation one must feel to do that and live in that environment.

Bulldog said:

I have a friend who is a hoarder. I've tried to offer my help to de-clutter the place, but its too overwhelming. Worse part about it, my friend is compulsive about things being perfect.

[Edited 12/6/10 19:49pm]

Dayum...I'm so sorry to hear about your friend. He/She must truly trust you in order to have shared such a condition. How did you find out? What did you say? What did you feel?

Okay...this is where my ignorance is HUGE. How can you be a hoarder and then be compulsive about stuff being perfect? I mean, it just doesn't seem like perfection can exist next to hoarding.

johnart said:

PunkMistress said:

http://prince.org/msg/100/343427

This is the same exact thread as johnart's!

I'm still gettin that show.

You know...I forgot about that thread...I even posted But seeing a new episode just wakes it up in me......the whole feeling.

I mean...I am just shocked on new levels if i see a new episode. I cannot watch a whole episode straight....I get angry...especially at those who make children live in this.....

jone70 said:

I cannot watch those shows anymore. After JohnArt's thread I watches some of each Hoarders (A&E?) and another one called Hoarders: Buried Alive (TLC?). The episode that put me over the edge was when a woman had to relieve herself in plastic shopping bags and was just throwing them over the pile of stuff into a corner; I guess because either the water had been turned off (because the house was in danger of being condemned, which it ultimately was) or there was too much stuff and the bathroom was inaccessible, or both. I feel sick just thinking about it and the sheer desperation one must feel to do that and live in that environment.

I remember seeing that. It must be a repeat because I saw it last year. I think that woman lived either in Maryland or Virgina. Wash't she a retired government worker or something? I think she had a Ph.D. and at one time had been fairly successful. I might be confusing her with another one, but a lot of these horders are educated people who have "issues."

I hear there's a woman like that living in my neighborhood. Another one of my neighbors told me he had to go into her house for something, and it was horrible--same scenario with shit in bags thrown randomly around; shit in underwear thrown anywhere, piles of newspapers, etc. It's sad because it's said that this disorder is almost untreatable.

Shyra said:

I remember seeing that. It must be a repeat because I saw it last year. I think that woman lived either in Maryland or Virgina. Wash't she a retired government worker or something? I think she had a Ph.D. and at one time had been fairly successful. I might be confusing her with another one, but a lot of these horders are educated people who have "issues."

I hear there's a woman like that living in my neighborhood. Another one of my neighbors told me he had to go into her house for something, and it was horrible--same scenario with shit in bags thrown randomly around; shit in underwear thrown anywhere, piles of newspapers, etc. It's sad because it's said that this disorder is almost untreatable.

I missed the beginning of the epidsode, but I think they were in Ohio or Indiana. The woman was older (60s-70s) and had inherited the house from her parents. It had gotten so bad that the City had threatened to condemn it unless they cleaned it. So they tried, they couldn't go upstairs because the floorboards had rotted and it was unsafe. She also had cats. They found a dead cat (mostly skeleton and fur) at some point; but when they got to the raw human sewage they had to stop. The other kicker was that to make money she sold Mary Kay or Avon or something! She kept all the products in her car. When the City can back to inspect the house, they said it would still cost about $75,000 to bring it up to code and the family could not afford that so they lost the house anyway. The whole thing really disturbed me, more than any other epidsode (I'd seen about 4 prior to this one).

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Wow...I dont know what I would do if I found out a neighbor was a hoarder. Its soooo very dangerous for not only the hoarder but for anyone who might have occassion to enter the home. (First responders is who I am thinking of.) I mean, its not like you can confront a homeowner about what is INSIDE their home. Sadly, the problem often ends up spilling to the outside, and they still dont want to hear anything from anyone.

I've had one hoarder family member. I didn't know until I went to the home when they were moving. They had lost the home...couldn't pay the mortgage (but there was THOUSANDS of dollars in merchandise in the house). The new owners offered to pay $2000 if they would clean the house out before moving. I was asked to help, and had NO IDEA what I was walking into. Waste high rooms with just shit (much of it good shit...eurekea vacuums...cedar chests, deep freezers, photoalbums, baskets, wrapping paper....just endless good shit). I was like...if you had a yard sale, you would have probably covered your mortgage for a few years.

And then this person was trying to push us out of the way as we were loading stuff on the sidewalk, still trying to save shit. I was like...bitch....if we were not here, you would never see this stuff again. Needless to say, its a sizeable block, and by the end, there was a traffic backup because hundreds of cars were pulling over to grab items. Pool tables....TV's etc. If only the knew the house had a roach infestation............

StillGotIt said:

Wow...I dont know what I would do if I found out a neighbor was a hoarder. Its soooo very dangerous for not only the hoarder but for anyone who might have occassion to enter the home. (First responders is who I am thinking of.) I mean, its not like you can confront a homeowner about what is INSIDE their home. Sadly, the problem often ends up spilling to the outside, and they still dont want to hear anything from anyone.

I've had one hoarder family member. I didn't know until I went to the home when they were moving. They had lost the home...couldn't pay the mortgage (but there was THOUSANDS of dollars in merchandise in the house). The new owners offered to pay $2000 if they would clean the house out before moving. I was asked to help, and had NO IDEA what I was walking into. Waste high rooms with just shit (much of it good shit...eurekea vacuums...cedar chests, deep freezers, photoalbums, baskets, wrapping paper....just endless good shit). I was like...if you had a yard sale, you would have probably covered your mortgage for a few years.

And then this person was trying to push us out of the way as we were loading stuff on the sidewalk, still trying to save shit. I was like...bitch....if we were not here, you would never see this stuff again. Needless to say, its a sizeable block, and by the end, there was a traffic backup because hundreds of cars were pulling over to grab items. Pool tables....TV's etc. If only the knew the house had a roach infestation............

So she lost her stuff anyway, right? It's a shame because like you say, a lot of the stuff hoarders accumulate is often good quality and if in good condition and not soiled with animal pee and poop, could be sold and at least some profit gained. I have a slight problem with clothing, shoes and books. I know I need to cull a lot of it, but it's hard when some of the stuff I haven't even worn or read. I'm determined to sort it out and donate a lot to charity. At least I can get a tax credit.

you all know I'd be on here. Apartment is still not clean but yesterday the equivolent of 12 bags of stuff left the house. Aiming for a repeat this next friday

Deadflow3r said:

you all know I'd be on here. Apartment is still not clean but yesterday the equivolent of 12 bags of stuff left the house. Aiming for a repeat this next friday

I'm so proud of you!

Thanks for the update. We're still rooting for you.

Deadflow3r said:

you all know I'd be on here. Apartment is still not clean but yesterday the equivolent of 12 bags of stuff left the house. Aiming for a repeat this next friday

Many people are hoarders, just not to the extreme like you see on those shows. If you have so many clothes (or shoes) that you have run out of room in your closet(s) but you keep purchasing, then you are a hoarder. I know a lot of people like that, but they are in denial.

Deadflow3r said:

you all know I'd be on here. Apartment is still not clean but yesterday the equivolent of 12 bags of stuff left the house. Aiming for a repeat this next friday

!!!! Wow, I am happy for you! every little bit is progress.

I wish everyday was trashday on your street so you wouldn't have to wait only once or twice a week before you were able to remove items from your home.

Keep it up!

kitbradley said:

Many people are hoarders, just not to the extreme like you see on those shows. If you have so many clothes (or shoes) that you have run out of room in your closet(s) but you keep purchasing, then you are a hoarder. I know a lot of people like that, but they are in denial.

Uh, I don't think so.

That's why clothes racks were invented . . . all up in the Kool-Aid and don't know the flavor.

TD3 said:

kitbradley said:

Many people are hoarders, just not to the extreme like you see on those shows. If you have so many clothes (or shoes) that you have run out of room in your closet(s) but you keep purchasing, then you are a hoarder. I know a lot of people like that, but they are in denial.

Uh, I don't think so.

That's why clothes racks were invented . . . all up in the Kool-Aid and don't know the flavor.

Chile, please. I had one of those mofos collapse on my ass, it was so full!

Shyra said:

TD3 said:

Uh, I don't think so.

That's why clothes racks were invented . . . all up in the Kool-Aid and don't know the flavor.

Chile, please. I had one of those mofos collapse on my ass, it was so full!

Chile, don't go to Wal-Mart or Kmart gettin' one of those Martha Stewart types racks with plastic base and caster wheels. Ya gotta buy one of those commercial department store clothes racks, all steel baby. Like the pic above and your life will never be endangered again.

TD3 said:

Shyra said:

Chile, please. I had one of those mofos collapse on my ass, it was so full!

Chile, don't go to Wal-Mart or Kmart gettin' one of those Martha Stewart types racks with plastic base and caster wheels. Ya gotta buy one of those commercial department store clothes racks, all steel baby. Like the pic above and your life will never be endangered again.

You know what? I'm pretty handy. Looks like I can make one of them moes myself. Shooo, get me some pipe, copule a u-joints, some casters and do, and I'm ret to go! Lemme research this jont

Shyra said:

TD3 said:

Chile, don't go to Wal-Mart or Kmart gettin' one of those Martha Stewart types racks with plastic base and caster wheels. Ya gotta buy one of those commercial department store clothes racks, all steel baby. Like the pic above and your life will never be endangered again.

You know what? I'm pretty handy. Looks like I can make one of them moes myself. Shooo, get me some pipe, copule a u-joints, some casters and do, and I'm ret to go! Lemme research this jont

TD3 said:

Shyra said:

Chile, please. I had one of those mofos collapse on my ass, it was so full!

Chile, don't go to Wal-Mart or Kmart gettin' one of those Martha Stewart types racks with plastic base and caster wheels. Ya gotta buy one of those commercial department store clothes racks, all steel baby. Like the pic above and your life will never be endangered again.

Even the steel ones can collapse, one did on me when I worked retail. A thief tried to make off with an entire rack of leather jackets, I caught him and a tug of war ensued... the rack broke, he went flying through a glass front window. I hit the floor like a ton o bricks and security had to pick my pregnant ass up because I couldn't get my fat ass up. That rack snapped, and it was heavy! Didn't think they could do that.

His accomplice got away with an armful of coats. Lucky bitch. I hope she had a hard time with the security cables.

PunkMistress said:

Shyra said:

You know what? I'm pretty handy. Looks like I can make one of them moes myself. Shooo, get me some pipe, copule a u-joints, some casters and do, and I'm ret to go! Lemme research this jont

They ain't cheap! I just did a little search, and Amazon has a lot to offer, but the cheapest is like $50, but I don't think it's realy heavy duty. Even to make one would probably cost me just as much. Oh. Maybe I can get one used on craig's list or something. I need something. No, what I really need is to get rid of some of this shit!

paintedlady said:

TD3 said:

Chile, don't go to Wal-Mart or Kmart gettin' one of those Martha Stewart types racks with plastic base and caster wheels. Ya gotta buy one of those commercial department store clothes racks, all steel baby. Like the pic above and your life will never be endangered again.

Even the steel ones can collapse, one did on me when I worked retail. A thief tried to make off with an entire rack of leather jackets, I caught him and a tug of war ensued... the rack broke, he went flying through a glass front window. I hit the floor like a ton o bricks and security had to pick my pregnant ass up because I couldn't get my fat ass up. That rack snapped, and it was heavy! Didn't think they could do that.

His accomplice got away with an armful of coats. Lucky bitch. I hope she had a hard time with the security cables.

Girl, you risked life and limb and baby over some leather coats? I know, you were being a good employee. Had it'd been me, I would have let the mofo have it. No, I'm lying. I probably would have done the same. I HATE a thief!

Shyra said:

paintedlady said:

Even the steel ones can collapse, one did on me when I worked retail. A thief tried to make off with an entire rack of leather jackets, I caught him and a tug of war ensued... the rack broke, he went flying through a glass front window. I hit the floor like a ton o bricks and security had to pick my pregnant ass up because I couldn't get my fat ass up. That rack snapped, and it was heavy! Didn't think they could do that.

His accomplice got away with an armful of coats. Lucky bitch. I hope she had a hard time with the security cables.

Girl, you risked life and limb and baby over some leather coats? I know, you were being a good employee. Had it'd been me, I would have let the mofo have it. No, I'm lying. I probably would have done the same. I HATE a thief!

I was the manager... I took it personal. I got the cuss out from my DM after though.

I would have sued the company if I got hurt because the regional manager was all up in arms about shrinkage from the previous year.