sextonseven said:

I might also add some comparisons like "total recall", "2001", "koyaanisqatsi",
"blade runner". Our conversation about the possibilities of what was happening mirrored a junior level discussion of total recall when we saw that a long time ago! Even a kid that was cleaning the theater jumped in this time.

ufoclub said:

I might also add some comparisons like "total recall", "2001", "koyaanisqatsi", "blade runner". Our conversation about the possibilities of what was happening mirrored a junior level discussion of total recall when we saw that a long time ago! Even a kid that was cleaning the theater jumped in this time.

There is definitely a similarity to those in its ambiguity and visual style as well (Tokyo at night is very futuristic after all). I think however, when talking to someone who hasn't seen the film yet, its graphic nature is something that really needs to be mentioned. You could be a fan of all the films you suggested and still be repulsed by Enter The Void.

ufoclub said:

I loved it, but the feeling it gave me was beyond most normal films, more intrusive into my mind and thoughts. More moody, more displacing like I was dreaming or hallucinating myself. It's relentless. And sentimental too!

which version did u watch? The 140 min or the 180 plus min version?

I saw both and they captured the same sentiment and adventure but the directors cut had some other scenes where it will haunt the audience at some stage.

sextonseven said:

ufoclub said:

I might also add some comparisons like "total recall", "2001", "koyaanisqatsi", "blade runner". Our conversation about the possibilities of what was happening mirrored a junior level discussion of total recall when we saw that a long time ago! Even a kid that was cleaning the theater jumped in this time.

There is definitely a similarity to those in its ambiguity and visual style as well (Tokyo at night is very futuristic after all). I think however, when talking to someone who hasn't seen the film yet, its graphic nature is something that really needs to be mentioned. You could be a fan of all the films you suggested and still be repulsed by Enter The Void.

Well it's tame compared to "Irriversible". It is also unrated which kind of is a red flag. But I would assume that the people on here who listen to Prince (who wrote Bob George, Erotic City, Pheremone) are not bible belt sheltered peeps.

But every single shot has CG elements and is composited in some way, and at times all the neon exteriors are CG and towards the end look stylized with glowing roads, etc.

There's a french effects company, check out the reel (spoilers warning):

http://www.buf.com/visual_effects.php?display=movie&id=882

sextonseven said:

There is definitely a similarity to those in its ambiguity and visual style as well (Tokyo at night is very futuristic after all). I think however, when talking to someone who hasn't seen the film yet, its graphic nature is something that really needs to be mentioned. You could be a fan of all the films you suggested and still be repulsed by Enter The Void.

It's like Total Recall in that the rules of an artificial experience are set up at the beginning, and then the the entire film could be argued to be this artificial exepcted experience.

The director actually argues that this was his intent. That it wasn't real.

ufoclub said:

sextonseven said:

There is definitely a similarity to those in its ambiguity and visual style as well (Tokyo at night is very futuristic after all). I think however, when talking to someone who hasn't seen the film yet, its graphic nature is something that really needs to be mentioned. You could be a fan of all the films you suggested and still be repulsed by Enter The Void.

Well it's tame compared to "Irriversible". It is also unrated which kind of is a red flag. But I would assume that the people on here who listen to Prince (who wrote Bob George, Erotic City, Pheremone) are not bible belt sheltered peeps.

But every single shot has CG elements and is composited in some way, and at times all the neon exteriors are CG and towards the end look stylized with glowing roads, etc.

There's a french effects company, check out the reel (spoilers warning):

http://www.buf.com/visual_effects.php?display=movie&id=882

It is indeed more hardcore than Irreversible and yet there are orgers that prefer not to see that movie because of the rape scene. But like in Irreversible, I don't think the sex scenes were the most graphic parts in Enter The Void. Many people in the theater were covering their eyes during the abortion scene.

At the end, Oscar was traveling through the model city of Tokyo his friend built, right? The effects company did a great job with that.

sextonseven said:

ufoclub said:

Well it's tame compared to "Irriversible". It is also unrated which kind of is a red flag. But I would assume that the people on here who listen to Prince (who wrote Bob George, Erotic City, Pheremone) are not bible belt sheltered peeps.

But every single shot has CG elements and is composited in some way, and at times all the neon exteriors are CG and towards the end look stylized with glowing roads, etc.

There's a french effects company, check out the reel (spoilers warning):

http://www.buf.com/visual_effects.php?display=movie&id=882

It is indeed more hardcore than Irreversible and yet there are orgers that prefer not to see that movie because of the rape scene. But like in Irreversible, I don't think the sex scenes were the most graphic parts in Enter The Void. Many people in the theater were covering their eyes during the abortion scene.

At the end, Oscar was traveling through the model city of Tokyo his friend built, right? The effects company did a great job with that.

Oh, I meant that Irriversible is much more offensive. Yes I forgot about the abortion scene, but still this movie doesn't contain the violence in the past film. It's the violence that I feel is offensive, since it actually graphically shows the maiming/and murder of conscious and innocent victims.

This movie had accidents happen, a clinical overhead view of an abortion, and an offscreen gunshot, but nothing murderous.

Yes the model city became just as he imagined: full of his friends all having sex and literally glowing from the feelings.

But the city was CG throughout the entire movie. The entire doctors clinic where the abortion takes place is CG. It's really quite cool what they achieved!

ufoclub said:

sextonseven said:

It is indeed more hardcore than Irreversible and yet there are orgers that prefer not to see that movie because of the rape scene. But like in Irreversible, I don't think the sex scenes were the most graphic parts in Enter The Void. Many people in the theater were covering their eyes during the abortion scene.

At the end, Oscar was traveling through the model city of Tokyo his friend built, right? The effects company did a great job with that.

Oh, I meant that Irriversible is much more offensive. Yes I forgot about the abortion scene, but still this movie doesn't contain the violence in the past film. It's the violence that I feel is offensive, since it actually graphically shows the maiming/and murder of conscious and innocent victims.

This movie had accidents happen, a clinical overhead view of an abortion, and an offscreen gunshot, but nothing murderous.

Yes the model city became just as he imagined: full of his friends all having sex and literally glowing from the feelings.

But the city was CG throughout the entire movie. The entire doctors clinic where the abortion takes place is CG. It's really quite cool what they achieved!

Ah, well offensive is different than hardcore. There were two offensive scenes that stood out in Irreversible, but more graphic scenes spread throughout Enter The Void. I also found the accident scenes in the latter to be jarring and hard to watch.

I saw how the effects were applied to the city in the link you proivided. Didn't know the abortion clinic was fabricated entirely with CGI though. Very cool.