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Black Market Grilled Cheese Sandwiches

drool biggrin drool i kinda wish he could deliver this far west...

http://today.msnbc.msn.co...-foodwine/

Call it cloak and dairy.

New Yorkers text or phone a black market dealer they know only as “Ronnie.” They place their order, agree on a drop location, and then look over their shoulders furtively as the delivery arrives in a plain, brown paper bag.

Sound like a drug deal? No: The contraband in question is the all-American grilled cheese sandwich.

“They are really crispy on the outside, then the cheese I get really melted and gooey,” Ronnie explained in a top-secret interview with TODAYshow.com. “That’s the pitfall with a lot of grilled cheeses: the outside is burned and the inside isn’t gooey enough.”

Furtive foodie
So what's all the secrecy about? The fact is, Ronnie, a former investment banker who grew up in the Northeast, doesn’t have a commercial food license. While he advertises daily specials on social media, he’s constantly worried about getting caught. And now his grilled cheese business is getting so popular that he’s sweating bullets — and it’s not from the heat in his underground kitchen.

“I’m worried that I’m getting too busy,” Ronnie told the New York Post. “I’m instituting a friends and friends-of-friends policy. I kind of want to quit, it’s getting too big, but I want to feed these people.

“It’s not cool with the Department of Health,” he added. “I don’t know how much longer I want to do it, because I’m living in fear. It would be such a stupid thing to get into trouble for.”

But despite the danger, the guerrilla griller braved an appearance on TODAY Wednesday, dropping a sandwich off to Kathie Lee Gifford and Hoda Kotb at the top of the fourth hour. (At his own insistence, Ronnie appeared only in silhouette, and his voice was artificially distorted.)

As she sank her teeth into an American cheese with bacon, Gifford remarked, “We’re breaking the law, and it feels so good.”

Kotb, who had chosen cheddar and jalapeno, agreed, noting that getting a sandwich delivered furtively on a street corner was “half the fun.”

‘Guerrilla food’
Indeed, Ronnie’s business is part of a growing “guerilla food” culture. It has its roots in 1970s guerilla gardens, where folks sought out dead urban areas and began planting flowers and edible plants, sometimes by “seed bombing” — throwing seeds into dangerous urban lots nearly impossible to access by foot.

By the dawn of the 2000s, guerilla restaurants began popping up in urban areas such as San Francisco, New York and London; unlicensed establishments, often in people’s homes, that built an underground clientele through word of mouth.

But these days, guerilla food has become downright specialized. In addition to Ronnie’s grilled cheese fare, a Brooklyn man, Ben Sargent, has taken to selling savory lobster rolls out of his apartment.

Sargent told the New York Daily News he accepts calls from hungry customers, who make their way to the Greenpoint section of Brooklyn where he lives. He tries to avoid legal interference by asking customers to “contribute” $14 per roll for what he calls “dinner parties.”

But whether you’re allowed to linger after getting your roll is up to Sargent’s whims.

“If I’m not in the mood for you to come in and hang out, I’m just going to pass it through the mail slot.”

While Sargent focuses on one specially targeted product, Ronnie’s offerings run the gamut of the grilled cheese world. The website urbandaddy.com reports Ronnie will whip up anything from Kraft singles on Wonder Bread to exotic Spanish Malvarosa topped with caramelized onions and raw jalapeno peppers. The sandwiches go for $5 to $7 a pop.

What’s his secret? After grilling each sandwich, he pops it into the oven for a short stint to maximize crispiness. He operates around the clock in the kitchen of his brother’s apartment.

But even Ronnie realizes the weirdness factor of pedaling around Manhattan on a bike and making furtive drop-offs. ”I feel like a drug dealer because I’m handing people a paper bag and they’re handing me cash,” he told the New York Post.

But while it may be illegal, Ronnie’s business is a hit. Just like Seinfeld’s famous “Soup Nazi” would occasionally drop a wedge of bread into a bag containing a soup order, Ronnie sometimes includes a can of beer or an airline bottle of booze to customers whose orders capture his fancy.

“As it stands now, I can’t keep up with the demand,” Ronnie, whose dad taught him the grilled cheese craft, told TODAYshow.com. “I am looking to expand production.”

And his customers are a dedicated lot. Lia Strassler told the New York Post a delivery from Ronnie is the highlight of her day.

“I couldn’t finish the day without one of these sandwiches,” she told the Post. “It’s better than any grilled cheese my mom ever made.”

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Reply #1 posted 08/04/10 10:27am

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Sounds delicious. Now I want to see if I can get one!

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Reply #2 posted 08/04/10 10:28am

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Efan said:

Sounds delicious. Now I want to see if I can get one!

are you in NY? good luck!! could you ORGnote one to me???????? biggrin

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Reply #3 posted 08/04/10 10:29am

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American cheese? barf

Trust me - there are better cheeses to be had that get every bit as melty as American.

And the ultimate grilled cheese sandwich is grilled cheese, tomato and bacon on rye.

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Reply #4 posted 08/04/10 10:31am

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Genesia said:

American cheese? barf

Trust me - there are better cheeses to be had that get every bit as melty as American.

And the ultimate grilled cheese sandwich is grilled cheese, tomato and bacon on rye.

He gives you a choice of cheeses, I think.

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Reply #5 posted 08/04/10 10:35am

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XxAxX said:

Efan said:

Sounds delicious. Now I want to see if I can get one!

are you in NY? good luck!! could you ORGnote one to me???????? biggrin

I'm in New York. I'm now following his Facebook page. But since he's considering selling only to friends and friends of friends, I might not have much luck. But it might be fun to see what I can do.

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Reply #6 posted 08/04/10 10:42am

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Efan said:

XxAxX said:

are you in NY? good luck!! could you ORGnote one to me???????? biggrin

I'm in New York. I'm now following his Facebook page. But since he's considering selling only to friends and friends of friends, I might not have much luck. But it might be fun to see what I can do.

see if he can hook you up nod

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Reply #7 posted 08/04/10 11:55am

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Genesia said:

American cheese? barf

Trust me - there are better cheeses to be had that get every bit as melty as American.

And the ultimate grilled cheese sandwich is grilled cheese, tomato and bacon on rye.

But the article also mentions Spanish Malvarosa cheese. nod nod nod

What´s your favorite American cheese? ( When I say "American" cheese, I´m talking about real cheese, not the Velveeta/Kraft sliced cheese kind....I´m thinking of cheese like Monterey Jack, or some strong cheddar, etc.).

You´re from Wisconsin, right? I heard they make some good cheese there.

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Reply #8 posted 08/04/10 12:03pm

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KoolEaze said:

Genesia said:

American cheese? barf

Trust me - there are better cheeses to be had that get every bit as melty as American.

And the ultimate grilled cheese sandwich is grilled cheese, tomato and bacon on rye.

But the article also mentions Spanish Malvarosa cheese. nod nod nod

What´s your favorite American cheese? ( When I say "American" cheese, I´m talking about real cheese, not the Velveeta/Kraft sliced cheese kind....I´m thinking of cheese like Monterey Jack, or some strong cheddar, etc.).

You´re from Wisconsin, right? I heard they make some good cheese there.

Yes, I am from Wisconsin. And lemme tell ya, we make some damn fine cheese here.

In fact, just down the road from where I work, they make one of the best cheeses in the world. It's called Pleasant Ridge Reserve - a raw cheese made from the milk of pastured cows. It is yummy-licious!

I loooooove cheese. Probably my favorite for a grilled cheese is muenster. It's a very mild cheese that gets very stringy when it melts.

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Reply #9 posted 08/04/10 12:13pm

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Genesia said:

KoolEaze said:

But the article also mentions Spanish Malvarosa cheese. nod nod nod

What´s your favorite American cheese? ( When I say "American" cheese, I´m talking about real cheese, not the Velveeta/Kraft sliced cheese kind....I´m thinking of cheese like Monterey Jack, or some strong cheddar, etc.).

You´re from Wisconsin, right? I heard they make some good cheese there.

Yes, I am from Wisconsin. And lemme tell ya, we make some damn fine cheese here.

In fact, just down the road from where I work, they make one of the best cheeses in the world. It's called Pleasant Ridge Reserve - a raw cheese made from the milk of pastured cows. It is yummy-licious!

I loooooove cheese. Probably my favorite for a grilled cheese is muenster. It's a very mild cheese that gets very stringy when it melts.

I know muenster. At least I know the German/French version of it.

Does yours look like this?

[img:$uid]http://www.germanfoods.org/images/products/gd_ch_muenster.jpg[/img:$uid]

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Reply #10 posted 08/04/10 12:14pm

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KoolEaze said:

Genesia said:

Yes, I am from Wisconsin. And lemme tell ya, we make some damn fine cheese here.

In fact, just down the road from where I work, they make one of the best cheeses in the world. It's called Pleasant Ridge Reserve - a raw cheese made from the milk of pastured cows. It is yummy-licious!

I loooooove cheese. Probably my favorite for a grilled cheese is muenster. It's a very mild cheese that gets very stringy when it melts.

I know muenster. At least I know the German/French version of it.

Does yours look like this?

[img:$uid]http://www.germanfoods.org/images/products/gd_ch_muenster.jpg[/img:$uid]

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Reply #11 posted 08/04/10 12:15pm

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Nevermind. I think your muenster looks more like this:

[img:$uid]http://www.widmerscheese.com/images/products/preview/43.jpg[/img:$uid]

I wonder if the taste is somewhat similar to the original Münsterkäse.

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Reply #12 posted 08/04/10 12:16pm

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Just 18% fat and only 6 grams of protein in 100 gr.? eek

How can that be tasty. Tasty cheese NEEDS fat. lol

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Reply #13 posted 08/04/10 12:17pm

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Oh, we posted at the same time.

I will definitely endulge in some American cheeses during my next stay. wink

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Reply #14 posted 08/04/10 12:23pm

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Efan said:

Sounds delicious. Now I want to see if I can get one!

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Reply #15 posted 08/04/10 12:25pm

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Shoewhore said:

Efan said:

Sounds delicious. Now I want to see if I can get one!

Pssst...I know somebody who knows somebody.....shhh

Then you're somebody I need to get to know!

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Reply #16 posted 08/04/10 12:27pm

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Genesia said:

American cheese? barf

Trust me - there are better cheeses to be had that get every bit as melty as American.

And the ultimate grilled cheese sandwich is grilled cheese, tomato and bacon on rye.

OMG we could soooooooo live together in harmony!! Except I would prefer the bread to be a good sourdough... drooling But I would take rye any day!

Why am I all bolded??

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Reply #17 posted 08/04/10 12:32pm

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Efan said:

Shoewhore said:

Pssst...I know somebody who knows somebody.....shhh

Then you're somebody I need to get to know!

I'm trying to find the source now, I'll orgnote you if I can get the number!

You'd never know its an office full of skinny fashion freaks from the food around here. I think we keep half the food trucks in NYC in business!!

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Reply #18 posted 08/04/10 2:27pm

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I don't know whats worse, the fact that I instantly had to click on this thread when I saw the title, or that I now want to move to NY to try one.

foodnow

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Reply #19 posted 08/04/10 10:13pm

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American cheese? barf

Trust me - there are better cheeses to be had that get every bit as melty as American.

And the ultimate grilled cheese sandwich is grilled cheese, tomato and bacon on rye.

you need to try AUSTRALIAN cheese, or, I heard NEW ZEALAND cheese is awesome drool

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