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Reply #30 posted 05/14/10 11:42am

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Parents Defend Young Girls' Racy Dance Performance

A Pomona, California dance troupe's interpretation of Beyonce's Single Ladies is striking up controversy on the Web, as it showcases five scantily-clad female dancers wildly shaking and gyrating to the R&B hit. The controversy: the dancers are 8- and 9-year-olds !

The video, which has racked more than two million views on YouTube this week, was shot at the World of Dance Competition in Pomona , California on April 10.

With countless message boards filled with angry words directed at the adults behind the competition, some of the dancers' parents appeared on Good Morning America Friday to give their sides of the story.

Cory Miller, who is the father one of the dancers, said the video has been "taken completely out of context," and that the performance was "completely normal for dancing.

"On behalf of the parents, our best interest is for the kids," Miller said. "Just know that the kids are doing something that they completely love to do. They compete in dance competitions ... in front of family and friends."

Another parent, Melissa Presch, said that the dancing is typical for those types of competitions, and that skimpy outfits are a necessity for flexibility in the dance spectrum.

"The costumes are designed for movement, unrestricted movement and to show body lines," she said. "We're very proud of our daughters and their accomplishments."

http://www.radaronline.co...erformance

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Reply #31 posted 05/14/10 12:08pm

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Deadflow3r said:

Dauphin said:




I'll just say this:

Perverts don't need the girls to dress this way to be the perverts they are.




No and alcoholics don't need to be in a likka store to be the way they are, but it sure doesn't help any. This sexualizing (spelling?) of children doesn't help any. Furthermore after seeing it over and over again people become apathetic about it, it becomes the norm.
P.S. i heard it said that detectives and law officials who constantly have to view child porn as part of their assignment grow to kinda like it. Has anybody else heard this? if that's true then what you watch does affect you.


I agree with this and with the other posters who stated the above. There comes a point where you should be considering what effect the presentation can have on the child in the long term.
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Reply #32 posted 05/14/10 12:13pm

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I see nothing wrong with it.

The dancing that is.

The outfitts.

I wouldn't let my daughter wear it at that age.
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Reply #33 posted 05/14/10 12:17pm

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Deadflow3r said:

Dauphin said:




I'll just say this:

Perverts don't need the girls to dress this way to be the perverts they are.




No and alcoholics don't need to be in a likka store to be the way they are, but it sure doesn't help any. This sexualizing (spelling?) of children doesn't help any. Furthermore after seeing it over and over again people become apathetic about it, it becomes the norm.
P.S. i heard it said that detectives and law officials who constantly have to view child porn as part of their assignment grow to kinda like it. Has anybody else heard this? if that's true then what you watch does affect you.


No...alcoholics don't need to be in a liquor store "to be the way that they are"! But being around alcohol doesn't help them...at all!

Personally, I've been around, drunks, drug addicts, users, abusers, the crayzed, the misguided, the used and the abused...you name it...I have WITNESSED it...first and motherfucking forehand! When I'm DONE...I will be giving my life back...intact...just like I got it!

That has NOT been...NOR will it be...by accident! I'm BLESSED and I spend each and every single moment...KNOWING and ACKNOWLEDGING that! When and IF I'm wrong...I will be alerted to that as well and blessed enough to KNOW and UNDERSTAND...exactly why! shrug
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Reply #34 posted 05/14/10 1:10pm

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TotalANXiousNESS said:

I see nothing wrong with it.

The dancing that is.

The outfitts.

I wouldn't let my daughter wear it at that age.
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Ya, the outfits...I don't even allow my son to wear black clothing at age 4 and would never allow a daughter to wear anything remotely like this.

Other than a couple of gyrating hip moves, I think the dancing was fine.

But I don't really ever equate dancing with sex or sexuality.
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Reply #35 posted 05/14/10 1:32pm

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RenHoek said:

children should NOT roll their hips like that!!! Are these parents STUPID?? And then people wonder why there are creepy pedophiles... rolleyes

let kids be kids gatdammit!!


Viewing these prostitutes in training is not going to create a pedophile.
But it's certainly going to be on pedophiles' computers.
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Reply #36 posted 05/14/10 1:35pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I posted the original video on the Lawrence Taylor thread because it reminded of how young girls are easily exploited even if it's unintentionally.

I know some people think they're just dancing and imitating what they've seen Beyonce doing for a talent show but would a pervert that preys on children see it that way?

Hell no! In the mind of a sick individual that preys on children, they're dressed like some grown ass women and they're dancing like some grown ass women, so what else can they do that only some grown ass women should be doing?

The sad part is the girls can really dance! They're very talented but whoever came up with the costumes and the choreography cheapened their natural ability for a disturbing edge those girls didn't need. disbelief
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Withdrawn after reading your later post.
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Reply #37 posted 05/14/10 1:36pm

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Dauphin said:

so is this too young too?





If the girl is younger than age 14, then yes.
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Reply #38 posted 05/14/10 1:44pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Dauphin said:




I'll just say this:

Perverts don't need the girls to dress this way to be the perverts they are.


Oh I know! Which is why I cannot understand for the life of me, how anyone could think their attire AND the over-sexualization of their performance is in any kind of way appropriate.

My concern here isn't about the perverts because let's be real about it for a moment...a miserable ass pervert can get aroused looking at a baby in a diaper!

My concern IS for those little girls and how irresponsible the adults in their lives are/were...just for the sake of winning a competition.

When my daughter was 16 years old, she was in a talent showcase at the new high school, in the suburban neighborhood, we'd just moved to. Where she wanted more than anything just to fit in because we were from the 'hood. Her and her new friends were all excited and winning the competition was the goal. When I saw the outfits they were planning on wearing, I dropped by the school to pick her up unannounced and when I saw the rehearsal, I pitched a motherfucking fit! I thought I was witnessing a pre-show at Watts Mozambique, folks from Detroit KNOW exactly what I'm talking about.

I talked to the dance instructor, the Principal and some of the other parents of the dancers about it and they said, "It's just dancing...blahblah...you are overreacting..."blahblah but there was no way in hell, as long as I had breath in me that I was having MY child put on display like that, so I pulled her out of the show! She was mad as fucking hell at me and would not speak to me for weeks and I did not give a damn, either!

We still went to the show and when responsible adults saw what I'd seen...there was all kinds of hell that broke out! The curtain was closed midway through their performance. Yet, those young women were 16 and 17 years old.

I'm all for freedom of expression and winning competitions but not if the price to be paid for it, is the sexual exploitation of young girls and that is what this situation IS...period!

And for the record...I'm just as appalled...as I am now...about young girls in Beauty Pageants! Or has everyone forgotten poor little JonBenet Ramsey!





Yes, I played the JonBenet card! Damn motherfucking right, I did so because she and MY daughter would be the EXACT same age right now! So FUCK...ALL the dumb shit...I AM speaking on this...straight from MY heart...as a MOTHER!
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Exactly. nod And this is coming from a 35-year-old single male with no kids.
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Reply #39 posted 05/14/10 7:16pm

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Any age is the wrong age for Beyonce's "music" or mimicking her performances.

Children should be encouraged to listen to good music instead.
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Reply #40 posted 05/14/10 7:23pm

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JustErin said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

I see nothing wrong with it.

The dancing that is.

The outfitts.

I wouldn't let my daughter wear it at that age.
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Ya, the outfits...I don't even allow my son to wear black clothing at age 4 and would never allow a daughter to wear anything remotely like this.

Other than a couple of gyrating hip moves, I think the dancing was fine.

But I don't really ever equate dancing with sex or sexuality.



What's wrong with black clothing? confuse
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Reply #41 posted 05/14/10 7:40pm

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meow85 said:

Any age is the wrong age for Beyonce's "music" or mimicking her performances.

Children should be encouraged to listen to good music instead.


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Reply #42 posted 05/14/10 8:27pm

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1. The hell?!
2. Whose parents thought this was a good idea?
3. Who in the right mind agreed to make those outfits?!
4. I didn't know World of Dance let kids enter the competition. Maybe it's where they had this particular one....I know the Bay Area competition, you have to be a certain age to participate
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Reply #43 posted 05/14/10 8:31pm

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wassup with the male reporter saying he didn't mind the gyrating because it's part of the song?


Chris Hansen needs to make a visit to his house neutral
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Reply #44 posted 05/14/10 8:38pm

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Yeah...that wouldn't be my kid up there spreadin her goodies in those get ups. shake
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Reply #46 posted 05/14/10 9:15pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Parents Defend Young Girls' Racy Dance Performance

A Pomona, California dance troupe's interpretation of Beyonce's Single Ladies is striking up controversy on the Web, as it showcases five scantily-clad female dancers wildly shaking and gyrating to the R&B hit. The controversy: the dancers are 8- and 9-year-olds !

The video, which has racked more than two million views on YouTube this week, was shot at the World of Dance Competition in Pomona , California on April 10.

With countless message boards filled with angry words directed at the adults behind the competition, some of the dancers' parents appeared on Good Morning America Friday to give their sides of the story.

Cory Miller, who is the father one of the dancers, said the video has been "taken completely out of context," and that the performance was "completely normal for dancing.

"On behalf of the parents, our best interest is for the kids," Miller said. "Just know that the kids are doing something that they completely love to do. They compete in dance competitions ... in front of family and friends."

Another parent, Melissa Presch, said that the dancing is typical for those types of competitions, and that skimpy outfits are a necessity for flexibility in the dance spectrum.

"The costumes are designed for movement, unrestricted movement and to show body lines," she said. "We're very proud of our daughters and their accomplishments."

http://www.radaronline.co...erformance

mad @ these stupid parents!

Ponoma....so it's SoCal...

Really, designed for movement and unrestricted movement and to show body lines?!

really?

REALLY?


like I said, I'm surprised because I thought you have to be a certain age to participate in World Of Dance's competitions

and this group didn't have no problem with movement in regular clothes

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Reply #47 posted 05/14/10 9:19pm

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Ok...now...I personally do not agree with girls doing these types of dance moves and dressing up in clothes reminiscent of Vanity 6. But now...this calls into question a lot of things...

what about young boys? I mean....I know I'm prolly gonna get beat down for this, but there are some very young Michael Jackson impersonators out there...doing hip gyrations and crotch grabs and stuff...and I've never heard anyone complain about that. Personally, I think it's kinda cute. Especially "Badder"...



Is this a possible double-standard? I mean, I love MJ's dancing, and I don't think he's trying to corrupt the morals of young children (hell no!). I guess parents have to talk to their children about this type of dancing so that they understand what it means. And then the children must decide how they feel about projecting this type of artistic expression. But yes, there should be a limit on age. These child dancers should be at an age where they're at a higher level of understanding. Not four year olds!
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Reply #48 posted 05/14/10 9:23pm

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SherryJackson said:

Ok...now...I personally do not agree with girls doing these types of dance moves and dressing up in clothes reminiscent of Vanity 6. But now...this calls into question a lot of things...

what about young boys? I mean....I know I'm prolly gonna get beat down for this, but there are some very young Michael Jackson impersonators out there...doing hip gyrations and crotch grabs and stuff...and I've never heard anyone complain about that.

1. You just described my dancing as a kid lol

2. You must've not known about the controversy over Michael's moves back in the day, ESPECIALLY the crotch grab
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Reply #49 posted 05/14/10 9:25pm

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johnart said:

Yeah...that wouldn't be my kid up there spreadin her goodies in those get ups. shake

I was about to make a "baby Johnart living his entire young life in hot pants" joke but then I remembered you may have a wine glass in you hand and I'm not trying to get anymore scars lol
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Reply #50 posted 05/14/10 9:27pm

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bboy87 said:

SherryJackson said:

Ok...now...I personally do not agree with girls doing these types of dance moves and dressing up in clothes reminiscent of Vanity 6. But now...this calls into question a lot of things...

what about young boys? I mean....I know I'm prolly gonna get beat down for this, but there are some very young Michael Jackson impersonators out there...doing hip gyrations and crotch grabs and stuff...and I've never heard anyone complain about that.

1. You just described my dancing as a kid lol

2. You must've not known about the controversy over Michael's moves back in the day, ESPECIALLY the crotch grab



Dude...I knew of it. I was 4 when I saw Michael do a grab. wink And hey, I used to dance like that too (I'm a girl, but that's beside the point!). But I'm just sayin...people oppose one form of dancing but condone another in this so called modern society. I'm just trying to clear something up for my own curiousity here. But that aside, I bet you're a great dancer. biggrin
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Reply #51 posted 05/14/10 9:31pm

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bboy87 said:

johnart said:

Yeah...that wouldn't be my kid up there spreadin her goodies in those get ups. shake

I was about to make a "baby Johnart living his entire young life in hot pants" joke but then I remembered you may have a wine glass in you hand and I'm not trying to get anymore scars lol


I can't help it I had beyonce thighs at a young age. lol
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Reply #52 posted 05/14/10 9:37pm

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johnart said:

bboy87 said:


I was about to make a "baby Johnart living his entire young life in hot pants" joke but then I remembered you may have a wine glass in you hand and I'm not trying to get anymore scars lol


I can't help it I had beyonce thighs at a young age. lol

You know what? I cannot deal with you today falloff
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Reply #53 posted 05/14/10 9:45pm

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bboy87 said:

johnart said:



I can't help it I had beyonce thighs at a young age. lol

You know what? I cannot deal with you today falloff


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Reply #54 posted 05/15/10 4:08am

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Timmy84 said:




Does he still do those catch a Predator shows?????
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Reply #55 posted 05/15/10 6:10am

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Timmy84 said:




Does he still do those catch a Predator shows?????


Nope. After that lawyer committed suicide because he apparently chatted with a "decoy" on there, they stopped.
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Reply #56 posted 05/15/10 6:54am

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meow85 said:

JustErin said:



Ya, the outfits...I don't even allow my son to wear black clothing at age 4 and would never allow a daughter to wear anything remotely like this.

Other than a couple of gyrating hip moves, I think the dancing was fine.

But I don't really ever equate dancing with sex or sexuality.



What's wrong with black clothing? confuse


I mostly wear black but it looks stupid on young kids.
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Reply #57 posted 05/15/10 6:58am

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thejason said:

nobody gets more upset about shit like this than me...but, if you take away the outfits, the dancing isn't sexually suggestive, it's just dancing and they were very good...but the girls could have danced just as well in age appropriate attire...

their parents probably let them wear short shorts with words wrote across the ass too...


Watch out now...you like little girls acting like sex objects...admit it!!



I don't wanna be internet friends anymore...


did you get that really cool black outfit I sent for your son??? biggrin
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Reply #58 posted 05/15/10 8:33am

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so is this too young too?



however, check the rest of the videos from that competition and from previous years. it's a long list of children (girls) wearing revealing clothing and dancing suggestively. Not just ballet or jazz dancing.

I agree that the problem might not exactly be the moves, but the costumes and presentation put it over the top.

Then again, should children not be allowed to belly dance too?



Different countries have different definitions towards what constitutes sexually suggestive movement and whether or not it's appropriate for children. Belly dancing, which is actually a misnomer and should be more appropriately referred to as middle easter dance, is not sexual in nature and depending on the regions where different forms of the dance originated, it takes on a very spiritual meaning that has nothing to do with sex.
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Reply #59 posted 05/15/10 8:36am

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Dauphin said:

so is this too young too?



however, check the rest of the videos from that competition and from previous years. it's a long list of children (girls) wearing revealing clothing and dancing suggestively. Not just ballet or jazz dancing.

I agree that the problem might not exactly be the moves, but the costumes and presentation put it over the top.

Then again, should children not be allowed to belly dance too?



Different countries have different definitions towards what constitutes sexually suggestive movement and whether or not it's appropriate for children. Belly dancing, which is actually a misnomer and should be more appropriately referred to as middle easter dance, is not sexual in nature and depending on the regions where different forms of the dance originated, it takes on a very spiritual meaning that has nothing to do with sex. I do agree with you 100% about the costumes though...those are waaaay to similar to burlesque costumes
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