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Of morals and sexual frustration Okay, here's the thing: I'm a young'n. By law, I'm really a grown-assed woman, but of course, being only 18 (actually a couple weeks shy now of 19), I guess you could still call me a "kid" of sorts. So, first off, sorry if this thread creeps anyone the hell out or comes off as too candid.
Anyway, eversince the tail-end of my sophomore year in high school, I've considered myself bisexual. Back in middle school, when my mind started gravitating towards certain thoughts, the opposite sex never did much for me, and eversince my "coming out", thoughts about guys haven't done a damn THING for me. They leave me cold. Now, judging by that, you'd probably ask, "Are you sure you're not gay, then?", to which the answer is no, since I've fallen for guys and still do. But, sexually speaking, all I can ever find myself thinking about is my own gender. Truth is, however, I've had zero experience with chicks. Never done anything sex-related with one, never kissed one, nothing. And, being someone who's had next to zero romantic experience in general (I had one month-long boyfriend who was a drug addict and verbally/emotionally abused me, and that's it)... my frustration has increasingly mounted. Does this mean I'd want to start doing cheap one-night-stands just to get my "fix"? No. But on the other hand, when masturbation stops sufficing, what's someone like me to do? I don't know, maybe I just have a damn hormone problem. Someone like this probably won't even matter to me once I'm in a real, loving relationship with someone of either gender (something I'm not exactly begging for since I'm still so young and have other things to worry about, but something that'd still be nice). | |
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well at least you're clear on the fact that you're young and still have plenty of time to get things sorted.
Considering that you're not "grossed out" by the thought of relations with either sex, go, be young, have fun with it... There's lot's of good fish in the sea... (but be safe!!) A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon |
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squiddyren said: Okay, here's the thing: I'm a young'n. By law, I'm really a grown-assed woman, but of course, being only 18 (actually a couple weeks shy now of 19), I guess you could still call me a "kid" of sorts. So, first off, sorry if this thread creeps anyone the hell out or comes off as too candid.
Anyway, eversince the tail-end of my sophomore year in high school, I've considered myself bisexual. Back in middle school, when my mind started gravitating towards certain thoughts, the opposite sex never did much for me, and eversince my "coming out", thoughts about guys haven't done a damn THING for me. They leave me cold. Now, judging by that, you'd probably ask, "Are you sure you're not gay, then?", to which the answer is no, since I've fallen for guys and still do. But, sexually speaking, all I can ever find myself thinking about is my own gender. Truth is, however, I've had zero experience with chicks. Never done anything sex-related with one, never kissed one, nothing. And, being someone who's had next to zero romantic experience in general (I had one month-long boyfriend who was a drug addict and verbally/emotionally abused me, and that's it)... my frustration has increasingly mounted. Does this mean I'd want to start doing cheap one-night-stands just to get my "fix"? No. But on the other hand, when masturbation stops sufficing, what's someone like me to do? I don't know, maybe I just have a damn hormone problem. Someone like this probably won't even matter to me once I'm in a real, loving relationship with someone of either gender (something I'm not exactly begging for since I'm still so young and have other things to worry about, but something that'd still be nice). Sounds to me like you are gay since you have no sexual desire for males but do have sexual desires for females. As for "falling for guys", that could be just a friendship thing. I'm a gay male and I can love a female just as much as I love a male but only as a friend. With males, I have sexual desires, STRONG sexual desires. Hell, most of the time, there's no love involved with the males, just sexual desires since men are such assholes. But they've got that damn dick between their legs and I just can't leave them alone. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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RenHoek said: well at least you're clear on the fact that you're young and still have plenty of time to get things sorted.
Considering that you're not "grossed out" by the thought of relations with either sex, go, be young, have fun with it... There's lot's of good fish in the sea... (but be safe!!) Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Lord Acton | |
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I may have misread the OP but I blame it on Jamie Foxx and that stupid song-ong-ong-ong ong-ongongongong... A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon |
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I have somewhat of the same problem? I'm equally sexually attracted to men and women, but I find it impossible to pursue women...I don't know how to meet them, or what to do. Every girl seems straight, or the type that only wants to get drunk and make out for male attention (which I fucking abhor). It's frustrating as hell | |
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evenstar3 said: I have somewhat of the same problem? I'm equally sexually attracted to men and women, but I find it impossible to pursue women...I don't know how to meet them, or what to do. Every girl seems straight, or the type that only wants to get drunk and make out for male attention (which I fucking abhor). It's frustrating as hell
To increase your odds for meeting girls, you could become more involved in the lesbian community where you live. Most larger cities always have a scene of sorts, with bars, cultural activities, social causes, etc. Not to make light of a serious topic, but October is Breast Cancer Awareness month; heck, the amount of girl parties, balls, and charity events centered around that cause alone would be enough to get your dance card filled for a year, mama Seriously though, one of my friends came out to me this year, but was scared to do so for some reason. She expressed the same frustration that you just did about meeting people. While I'm hetero, I came into adulthood in Miami Beach, a totally gay mecca, so the most sensible thing to me is "Chile, you have to find out where the peeps are, then go there and find cool folks to hang out with!" I encouraged her to get online, we found out what the local same sex attraction hub was, went to scope it out like detectives, and it made things easier. Just through this one ladies' restaurant/b&b, she was able to find literature discussions, the female nightclubs, and a ladies' only tango festival (I helped her shop for and coordinate her outfit )...and...she started attending a ladies' Sunday brunch regularly and managed to make some er, uh, nice girls for coffee dates [Edited 10/27/09 2:11am] | |
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RenHoek said: well at least you're clear on the fact that you're young and still have plenty of time to get things sorted.
Considering that you're not "grossed out" by the thought of relations with either sex, go, be young, have fun with it... There's lot's of good fish in the sea... (but be safe!!) [b] | |
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evenstar3 said: I have somewhat of the same problem? I'm equally sexually attracted to men and women, but I find it impossible to pursue women...I don't know how to meet them, or what to do. Every girl seems straight, or the type that only wants to get drunk and make out for male attention (which I fucking abhor). It's frustrating as hell
I know a gay chick (my age) that can basically have any girl she wants. She's not exactly pretty and even kind of a bitch, but all throughout high school, she managed to get five (count 'em, FIVE) gorgeous straight girls in a row (I shit you not) to fall in love with her and become her girlfriend, some of whom had already been taken by guys before she wrapped them around her finger. I didn't even mention all the attractive, otherwise straight admirers she had that she DIDN'T date but nonetheless had under some spell. It used to piss me off so fucking bad, you don't even know. I wanted her extreme luck. | |
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Sounds like a big dilemma to me I don't know what to suggest but I wish you luck with however it pans out just make sure you're careful if you 'try before you buy'
I can't relate on liking the same sex but I get your frustration cos I just can't do sex without the love and its been waaaaayyyy too long!!! JaneyPoos used to be it... then they changed what it was. Now what I am isn't it and what is it is strange and frightening to me...
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vainandy said: Sounds to me like you are gay since you have no sexual desire for males but do have sexual desires for females. As for "falling for guys", that could be just a friendship thing. I'm a gay male and I can love a female just as much as I love a male but only as a friend. With males, I have sexual desires, STRONG sexual desires. Hell, most of the time, there's no love involved with the males, just sexual desires since men are such assholes. But they've got that damn dick between their legs and I just can't leave them alone. your posts make me horny. | |
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Squiddy and Janey in the same thread????!
Sorry squid, you're gonna have to try some Starkist to see if you can stick with it Hope you can make a good connection with someone soon! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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evenstar3 said: I have somewhat of the same problem? I'm equally sexually attracted to men and women, but I find it impossible to pursue women...I don't know how to meet them, or what to do. Every girl seems straight, or the type that only wants to get drunk and make out for male attention (which I fucking abhor). It's frustrating as hell Oh honey, don't you dare! Always carry yourself with pride and if a male wants to watch you make out with another girl, tell him only if you can fuck him in the ass with a strap-on. Or better yet, tell him that you want to watch him suck my dick. Hey, if he can watch you with the same sex, you should be able to watch him with the same sex. I bet that bastard will leave you alone then. . . . [Edited 10/27/09 14:16pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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newpower99 said: vainandy said: Sounds to me like you are gay since you have no sexual desire for males but do have sexual desires for females. As for "falling for guys", that could be just a friendship thing. I'm a gay male and I can love a female just as much as I love a male but only as a friend. With males, I have sexual desires, STRONG sexual desires. Hell, most of the time, there's no love involved with the males, just sexual desires since men are such assholes. But they've got that damn dick between their legs and I just can't leave them alone. your posts make me horny. Glad I can be of service. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Ottensen said: evenstar3 said: I have somewhat of the same problem? I'm equally sexually attracted to men and women, but I find it impossible to pursue women...I don't know how to meet them, or what to do. Every girl seems straight, or the type that only wants to get drunk and make out for male attention (which I fucking abhor). It's frustrating as hell
To increase your odds for meeting girls, you could become more involved in the lesbian community where you live. Most larger cities always have a scene of sorts, with bars, cultural activities, social causes, etc. Not to make light of a serious topic, but October is Breast Cancer Awareness month; heck, the amount of girl parties, balls, and charity events centered around that cause alone would be enough to get your dance card filled for a year, mama Seriously though, one of my friends came out to me this year, but was scared to do so for some reason. She expressed the same frustration that you just did about meeting people. While I'm hetero, I came into adulthood in Miami Beach, a totally gay mecca, so the most sensible thing to me is "Chile, you have to find out where the peeps are, then go there and find cool folks to hang out with!" I encouraged her to get online, we found out what the local same sex attraction hub was, went to scope it out like detectives, and it made things easier. Just through this one ladies' restaurant/b&b, she was able to find literature discussions, the female nightclubs, and a ladies' only tango festival (I helped her shop for and coordinate her outfit )...and...she started attending a ladies' Sunday brunch regularly and managed to make some er, uh, nice girls for coffee dates [Edited 10/27/09 2:11am] you're a good friend where i live now isn't really conducive to any of that; part of the reason why i'm trying to get to a major city! i've tried casually mentioning it to my best friend and she kinda pretends like she doesn't hear me, or won't comment on it...i know it's not that she'd disapprove, she's had other gay/bi friends for years. her boyfriend's even going to be the officiant at a wedding for two of their lesbian friends soon. it's just really weird the only other person i was close enough to talk about it with i can't anymore. | |
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squiddyren said: evenstar3 said: I have somewhat of the same problem? I'm equally sexually attracted to men and women, but I find it impossible to pursue women...I don't know how to meet them, or what to do. Every girl seems straight, or the type that only wants to get drunk and make out for male attention (which I fucking abhor). It's frustrating as hell
I know a gay chick (my age) that can basically have any girl she wants. She's not exactly pretty and even kind of a bitch, but all throughout high school, she managed to get five (count 'em, FIVE) gorgeous straight girls in a row (I shit you not) to fall in love with her and become her girlfriend, some of whom had already been taken by guys before she wrapped them around her finger. I didn't even mention all the attractive, otherwise straight admirers she had that she DIDN'T date but nonetheless had under some spell. It used to piss me off so fucking bad, you don't even know. I wanted her extreme luck. dude you have to learn her secret! | |
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vainandy said: Oh honey, don't you dare! Always carry yourself with pride and if a male wants to watch you make out with another girl, tell him only if you can fuck him in the ass with a strap-on. Or better yet, tell him that you want to watch him suck my dick. Hey, if he can watch you with the same sex, you should be able to watch him with the same sex. I bet that bastard will leave you alone then. . . . [Edited 10/27/09 14:16pm] yeah, i basically have that attitude, it's just the girls i meet usually don't. | |
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evenstar3 said: Ottensen said: To increase your odds for meeting girls, you could become more involved in the lesbian community where you live. Most larger cities always have a scene of sorts, with bars, cultural activities, social causes, etc. Not to make light of a serious topic, but October is Breast Cancer Awareness month; heck, the amount of girl parties, balls, and charity events centered around that cause alone would be enough to get your dance card filled for a year, mama Seriously though, one of my friends came out to me this year, but was scared to do so for some reason. She expressed the same frustration that you just did about meeting people. While I'm hetero, I came into adulthood in Miami Beach, a totally gay mecca, so the most sensible thing to me is "Chile, you have to find out where the peeps are, then go there and find cool folks to hang out with!" I encouraged her to get online, we found out what the local same sex attraction hub was, went to scope it out like detectives, and it made things easier. Just through this one ladies' restaurant/b&b, she was able to find literature discussions, the female nightclubs, and a ladies' only tango festival (I helped her shop for and coordinate her outfit )...and...she started attending a ladies' Sunday brunch regularly and managed to make some er, uh, nice girls for coffee dates [Edited 10/27/09 2:11am] you're a good friend where i live now isn't really conducive to any of that; part of the reason why i'm trying to get to a major city! i've tried casually mentioning it to my best friend and she kinda pretends like she doesn't hear me, or won't comment on it...i know it's not that she'd disapprove, she's had other gay/bi friends for years. her boyfriend's even going to be the officiant at a wedding for two of their lesbian friends soon. it's just really weird the only other person i was close enough to talk about it with i can't anymore. What happened to you happened to my big sister and her best friend, also a mutual friend of mine. Our friend isn't officially out publicly (and hasn't told me, although all those women's basketball games she used to drag me to in Miami sorta gave it away even back then:lol:) Anyhoo, she came out to my sister, and I dunno, my sister, now that she's a surburbanite mom with corporate husband living on a cul-de-sac has become very narrow minded, & feels uneasy about it. I think sometimes friends get confused and they wonder whether or not their newly outed same sex attraction friends love them for them, or if they harbored secret attraction for them all along. It can be a natural reaction I guess...an unfortunate one, but still a human one, I think. I always liked how Joan from Mad Men handled it when her roommate confessed the "I'm gay and I love you "thing, she didn't dismiss her friend's feelings, yet subtlely she.. well, dismissed the idea that she could be interested in her...it was gentle & poignant, but she got her point across: Too bad these situations can't just play out like an episode of "the L Word" where everybody gets along whether they're straight, bi,or lesbian That actually gives me a thought for you: maybe it's time to start socking dough away to save for a vacation...? http://dinahshoreweekend.com/ Scrimp on some lunches, cut down on the shopping, put those pennies towards a fun filled 4 days in sapphic shangri la...could be an alternative, maybe? Anyhoo... [Edited 10/28/09 0:34am] | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Squiddy and Janey in the same thread????!
Sorry squid, you're gonna have to try some Starkist to see if you can stick with it Hope you can make a good connection with someone soon! Happy to please someone with a reappearance it's been ages! Pleased you remember me though lol xXx JaneyPoos used to be it... then they changed what it was. Now what I am isn't it and what is it is strange and frightening to me...
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JaneyPoos said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Squiddy and Janey in the same thread????!
Sorry squid, you're gonna have to try some Starkist to see if you can stick with it Hope you can make a good connection with someone soon! Happy to please someone with a reappearance it's been ages! Pleased you remember me though lol xXx Yes, I remember how you only come out at night for the sex threads Lovely to see you after a thousand nights! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: JaneyPoos said: Happy to please someone with a reappearance it's been ages! Pleased you remember me though lol xXx Yes, I remember how you only come out at night for the sex threads Lovely to see you after a thousand nights! That is most probably true! ... I've been here today and yesterday and I've wrote a lot of responses... whether I'll keep up the trend I don't know... I just looked at my org account details I've been on here for 7 years and around 7 months... seems mad! JaneyPoos used to be it... then they changed what it was. Now what I am isn't it and what is it is strange and frightening to me...
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JaneyPoos said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Yes, I remember how you only come out at night for the sex threads Lovely to see you after a thousand nights! That is most probably true! ... I've been here today and yesterday and I've wrote a lot of responses... whether I'll keep up the trend I don't know... I just looked at my org account details I've been on here for 7 years and around 7 months... seems mad! I just passed 7/7/7 and I have, what over 60,000 posts! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: JaneyPoos said: That is most probably true! ... I've been here today and yesterday and I've wrote a lot of responses... whether I'll keep up the trend I don't know... I just looked at my org account details I've been on here for 7 years and around 7 months... seems mad! I just passed 7/7/7 and I have, what over 60,000 posts! You've clearly been putting the work in... I'm somewhat lack-lustre with around 3000 forum posts! JaneyPoos used to be it... then they changed what it was. Now what I am isn't it and what is it is strange and frightening to me...
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