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Any audiophile's here? hear? MFLS, SACD, DVD-Audio, DTS 5.1, SHM-CD talk Here are my favorite cd's:
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I don't have an SACD player. Is it really that different from DVD-A?
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I don't know what MFSL is but have been collecting SACDs and DVD-Audio for some years. It's a pity they've almost disappeared.
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I can't hear the difference in quality C:\Otaassk~.exe Seriously, this thread makes no fucking sense: http://prince.org/msg/15/321025 vivid is my new boo! | |
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Since we're discussing this,
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I agree that the Prince SHMs seem to be just packaged nicer. No true audio enhancements have been done. They actually can't without Prince's and WB's say-so.
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PANDURITO said: Since we're discussing this,
Does anybody have the Talking Heads DVD-As? I could never play the DVD-Audio layer. The DVD-Video layer works fine so I can still listen to my beloved 5.1 mixes. Somebody? Anybody? I have the DualDisc versions of Speaking in Tongues, Little Creatures and True Stories. I really only bought them for the remastered stereo tracks and haven't listened to the DVD-A surround mixes. I need to. The issue you are having is quite common. The problem is a combination of the DualDisc (CD/DVD) configuration and hardware compatibility. Older players are more likely to not work with the hybrids. If you are in the market for an upgrade, bring your 'Heads DualDiscs into the store and make sure they play on whichever DVD-A machine you are interested in. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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Imago said: I can't hear the difference in quality
I don't know anything about high end stereo equipment. I was in a Bose store in Tampa last summer and I listened to their home theater system, and didn't know what was so impressive about it. I mean, it sounded great but I wouldn't be able distinguish between it and something like Sony. I can definitely tell the difference between after market earbuds and the ones that come with your iPods, but your dealing with lossy compressed files either way. I still don't think I could tell the difference between something on a high fi medium and an mp3 player that's 256+ kps . I think my ears are just damaged from years of clubbing and concerts. I've never liked Bose. The full dynamic range never seems to be where it should be. When I compare Bose to JBL and other similarly tiered speakers, I always tend to go with the JBL. Bose has a heck of a marketing blueprint in place, though. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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squirrelgrease said: The issue you are having is quite common. The problem is a combination of the DualDisc (CD/DVD) configuration and hardware compatibility. Older players are more likely to not work with the hybrids. If you are in the market for an upgrade, bring your 'Heads DualDiscs into the store and make sure they play on whichever DVD-A machine you are interested in.
They're not Dual Discs. I have the CD + DVD version. And as I said I have quite a collection and those are the only ones I have problems with.
I have a few DualDiscs too but never had a problem with them. Only that many players don't like them You owe me $5. I caught the big fish....again | |
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PANDURITO said: squirrelgrease said: The issue you are having is quite common. The problem is a combination of the DualDisc (CD/DVD) configuration and hardware compatibility. Older players are more likely to not work with the hybrids. If you are in the market for an upgrade, bring your 'Heads DualDiscs into the store and make sure they play on whichever DVD-A machine you are interested in.
They're not Dual Discs. I have the CD + DVD version. And as I said I have quite a collection and those are the only ones I have problems with.
I have a few DualDiscs too but never had a problem with them. Only that many players don't like them :hmmm2: I didn't know there were Talking Heads CD + DVD sets. When did these come out? Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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squirrelgrease said: :hmmm2: I didn't know there were Talking Heads CD + DVD sets. When did these come out?
In 2006 too Some are on offer now at hmv for 4.99 GBP You owe me $5. I caught the big fish....again | |
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squirrelgrease said: I have a Mobile Fidelity hybrid SACD of The Pixies "Surfer Rosa" that was remastered, and the sound is amazing. Yes, I have that one. MFSL does an amazing job. If you are a Floyd fan get your hands on "Dark Side of the Moon" MFSL. Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab takes great pride and tons of time in Remasters. | |
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squirrelgrease said: I've never liked Bose. The full dynamic range never seems to be where it should be. When I compare Bose to JBL and other similarly tiered speakers, I always tend to go with the JBL. Bose has a heck of a marketing blueprint in place, though.
Agree. Never cared for Bose speakers. Still, imo Bose makes good headphones. I'm not into the speakers either. I like custom klipch speakers. Pioneer imo makes a nice receivers. | |
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PANDURITO said: Since we're discussing this,
Does anybody have the Talking Heads DVD-As? I could never play the DVD-Audio layer. The DVD-Video layer works fine so I can still listen to my beloved 5.1 mixes. Somebody? Anybody? Yes. I have the Talking Heads dvd-audios. Like them very much. | |
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squirrelgrease said: I agree that the Prince SHMs seem to be just packaged nicer. No true audio enhancements have been done. They actually can't without Prince's and WB's say-so.
I have a Mobile Fidelity hybrid SACD of The Pixies "Surfer Rosa" that was remastered, and the sound is amazing. I'm going to pick up the SACD Doolittle and Bossanova as soon as possible. They've all been remastered from the recently re-discovered 2" masters. The differences may be subtle sometimes but I think these are new masterings, even if they aren't tweaked as much as most modern remasters. I know for sure that D.M.S.R. on the new 1999 CD is not from the same source as the regular 1999 CD because there are distortions in the second half of the song on the regular CD which are missing on the SHM-CD. This must be a new mastering or transfer or whatever you want to call it because this kind of audio noise doesn't go away by changing the plastic in the CD... and if one were to believe all the hype about the SHM-CD format, those distortions would actually be more noticeable. I could post short comparison clips to demonstrate this, but I'm not sure if the Org allows this because it's Prince's music. | |
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purplehippieonthe1 said: I know for sure that D.M.S.R. on the new 1999 CD is not from the same source as the regular 1999 CD because there are distortions in the second half of the song on the regular CD which are missing on the SHM-CD.
I've been considering getting the Prince SHM-CDs from Japan but from the discussions here, I doubt that they're remastered. DMSR is an odd song to compare as it wasn't on the original 1999 CDs and was added for later CDs. It might be from an inferior source than the rest of the tracks or transferred poorly etc. and this mistake was rectified with the SHM-CD release. (Does anyone have any info regarding this?) [Edited 8/24/09 4:22am] Shit, goddamn!
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Did anybody buy the Warners R.E.M. 5.1 reissues a few years back?
Who the fuck is Prince? | |
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connorhawke said: Did anybody buy the Warners R.E.M. 5.1 reissues a few years back?
If so are they worth getting? Absolutely. They ARE a whole new experience. I heard sounds and instruments I didn't know there were there before Totally recommended You owe me $5. I caught the big fish....again | |
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PANDURITO said: connorhawke said: Did anybody buy the Warners R.E.M. 5.1 reissues a few years back?
If so are they worth getting? Absolutely. They ARE a whole new experience. I heard sounds and instruments I didn't know there were there before Totally recommended Thanks!!!! I will do. Can't wait to hear Bang And Blame and Country Feedback in 5.1! Who the fuck is Prince? | |
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realm said: squirrelgrease said: I have a Mobile Fidelity hybrid SACD of The Pixies "Surfer Rosa" that was remastered, and the sound is amazing. Yes, I have that one. MFSL does an amazing job. If you are a Floyd fan get your hands on "Dark Side of the Moon" MFSL. Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab takes great pride and tons of time in Remasters. I'll have to consider that Floyd disc. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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squirrelgrease said: realm said: Yes, I have that one. MFSL does an amazing job. If you are a Floyd fan get your hands on "Dark Side of the Moon" MFSL. Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab takes great pride and tons of time in Remasters. I'll have to consider that Floyd disc. I love Floyd. Has Wish You Were Here been done too? Who the fuck is Prince? | |
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One of blu-ray DVD has Wolfson digital audio converters.
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realm said: squirrelgrease said: I've never liked Bose. The full dynamic range never seems to be where it should be. When I compare Bose to JBL and other similarly tiered speakers, I always tend to go with the JBL. Bose has a heck of a marketing blueprint in place, though.
Agree. Never cared for Bose speakers. Still, imo Bose makes good headphones. I'm not into the speakers either. I like custom klipch speakers. Pioneer imo makes a nice receivers. I tried a pair of Bose over-the-ear "surround sound" headphones, and they were really very realistic. Klipch is usually my second choice for floor speakers. Nice range. My main receiver is a THX certified Kenwood 6.1. It's a few years old, but it's spacial surround capabilities and quality are great. It doesn't have HDMI i/o's, so that's kind of a bummer, but I guess I can live with it for a while. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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purplehippieonthe1 said: squirrelgrease said: I agree that the Prince SHMs seem to be just packaged nicer. No true audio enhancements have been done. They actually can't without Prince's and WB's say-so.
I have a Mobile Fidelity hybrid SACD of The Pixies "Surfer Rosa" that was remastered, and the sound is amazing. I'm going to pick up the SACD Doolittle and Bossanova as soon as possible. They've all been remastered from the recently re-discovered 2" masters. The differences may be subtle sometimes but I think these are new masterings, even if they aren't tweaked as much as most modern remasters. I know for sure that D.M.S.R. on the new 1999 CD is not from the same source as the regular 1999 CD because there are distortions in the second half of the song on the regular CD which are missing on the SHM-CD. This must be a new mastering or transfer or whatever you want to call it because this kind of audio noise doesn't go away by changing the plastic in the CD... and if one were to believe all the hype about the SHM-CD format, those distortions would actually be more noticeable. I could post short comparison clips to demonstrate this, but I'm not sure if the Org allows this because it's Prince's music. I understand what you're saying. My best guess is that these SHMs were mastered from the 3/4 Digital Tape in which all of the regular WB CDs were mastered from. Newer technology allows for some tweaking that wasn't done back in the late 1980s when WB put out the bulk of the "golden era" Prince CDs. But there is no way that the stereo analog masters were used for these SHMs. Another, better Digital Tape source must have been found for the DMSR cut. Maybe the one supplied for the Risky Business Soundtrack, which seems to sound better anyway. It's also possible that the original Japanese CDs were sourced from better tapes in the first place. I don't have a Japanese copy of 1999. Purple Fact #542: Prince can make a Weeble™ fall down. | |
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squirrelgrease said: Imago said: I can't hear the difference in quality
I don't know anything about high end stereo equipment. I was in a Bose store in Tampa last summer and I listened to their home theater system, and didn't know what was so impressive about it. I mean, it sounded great but I wouldn't be able distinguish between it and something like Sony. I can definitely tell the difference between after market earbuds and the ones that come with your iPods, but your dealing with lossy compressed files either way. I still don't think I could tell the difference between something on a high fi medium and an mp3 player that's 256+ kps . I think my ears are just damaged from years of clubbing and concerts. I've never liked Bose. The full dynamic range never seems to be where it should be. When I compare Bose to JBL and other similarly tiered speakers, I always tend to go with the JBL. Bose has a heck of a marketing blueprint in place, though. Bose is 99% marketing. They amp the bass end and imho nowhere near a flat response, which is what I want 2 hear from a speaker. If u want those most bang for your buck, try some infinity speakers. Great sound.....better price. The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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PANDURITO said: connorhawke said: Did anybody buy the Warners R.E.M. 5.1 reissues a few years back?
If so are they worth getting? Absolutely. They ARE a whole new experience. I heard sounds and instruments I didn't know there were there before Totally recommended I also have the REM 5.1's. Yes, very nice. Love to blast the Green 5.1's.. | |
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squirrelgrease said: realm said: Yes, I have that one. MFSL does an amazing job. If you are a Floyd fan get your hands on "Dark Side of the Moon" MFSL. Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab takes great pride and tons of time in Remasters. I'll have to consider that Floyd disc. About impossible to find without paying an arm-n-leg. You can find them for dl. IMO the MFSL mixes are better than the Anniversary SACD which is also a cool listen. | |
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