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Thread started 05/25/09 11:42pm

morningsong

How important is character in forming someone's life?

Does it really have an impact on the quality of life you lead? What is it? Is it the same as morals?




To me it's important and does have a major impact in your quality of your life, I see "character" as an attitude and though morals and character in some cases can be interchangable, they are not the same thing. I guess I would say quality of life is something more than simply following the rules.

Any thoughts??
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Reply #1 posted 05/25/09 11:49pm

Muse2NoPharaoh

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Well, whether one does and or not, it actually the question at hand. You see it as relevant, but many including Camus' Meursault, feel differently. Their wiring precludes them from your analyses. Their morality is different then ours based on their perceptions. I believe nature vs nature factors in heavily.....
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Reply #2 posted 05/25/09 11:54pm

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My paper aside, I completly agree with you.
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Reply #3 posted 05/25/09 11:55pm

morningsong

^^^ ummm...okay, I don't get it maybe you could expand it.

I was listening to something yesterday and the words just struck me that I don't see those words the same. Morals are based on society, but character is innate. Simply various people from different societies can have the same character but different morals. Ehh, it just struck me odd. Character is the foundation of a person.
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Reply #4 posted 05/26/09 12:08am

Imago

A persons 'ethics' or 'morals' can often shape their obligatory behaviors and rhetoric, but I think it's their character that really shows through.

Someone who is constantly apologizing to you for some failing on their part or imploring you not to think that they didn't care due to the afore mentioned failing, is revealing their character despite this obligatory rhetoric.

If you don't want someone to think you're an ass, don't behave like an ass. Taking a moral stance that what you did was wrong isn't the same thing as taking steps to not be wrong to begin with. And asking someone not to think you're an ass only magnifies the fact that you are, indeed, a complete ass.

Character, naturally shapes a person's life in every aspect of it. A person's 'morals' or 'ethics' serves merely as a framework within that. Many people believe in the same God Mother Teresa believed in. I venture to say, despite, Mother Teresa was a diamond in the rough.


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Reply #5 posted 05/26/09 12:36am

ZombieKitten

having to have cold baths as a kid is character forming I was told
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Reply #6 posted 05/26/09 7:52pm

Muse2NoPharaoh

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ZombieKitten said:

having to have cold baths as a kid is character forming I was told



You was lied to sister! lol
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Reply #7 posted 05/26/09 7:54pm

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morningsong said:

^^^ ummm...okay, I don't get it maybe you could expand it.

I was listening to something yesterday and the words just struck me that I don't see those words the same. Morals are based on society, but character is innate. Simply various people from different societies can have the same character but different morals. Ehh, it just struck me odd. Character is the foundation of a person.
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Sorry, I am writing papers for both psychology and Literature. Ironically along the same line. Ill note you later.
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Reply #8 posted 05/26/09 7:55pm

Anxiety

what *IS* character?
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Reply #9 posted 05/26/09 8:11pm

morningsong

Hard to pinpoint. It is malleable. Can be built or torn down at anytime in a person's life. A part of a personality but more than that.

dictionary definition - the complex of mental and ethical traits marking and often individualizing a person, group, or nation

WOODROW WILSON (1856-1924)
"If you will think about what you ought to do for other people, your character will take care of itself. Character is a by-product, and any man who devotes himself to its cultivation in his own case will become a selfish prig."



a person's character is revealed more by their actions than their words


A Person's Character Is Their Destiny

Sow A Thought, Reap An Action.
Sow An Action, Reap A Habit.
Sow A Set Of Habits, Reap A Character.
Sow A Character, Reap A Destiny.
(William James)



shrug just some others thoughts on the matter.
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Reply #10 posted 05/26/09 8:14pm

Anxiety

character seems like such a nebulous term in this context.

maybe character = ethics + morals + confidence?
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Reply #11 posted 05/26/09 8:26pm

morningsong

Those would definitely have a part in it. I can say character definitely requires action. Is it really an important factor in dictating the course of one's life?
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Reply #12 posted 05/26/09 8:46pm

ZombieKitten

Muse2NoPharaoh said:

ZombieKitten said:

having to have cold baths as a kid is character forming I was told



You was lied to sister! lol

also riding my bike to school in the rain
carrying heavy rocks for no reason
digging trenches…
hmmm
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Reply #13 posted 05/26/09 8:47pm

lascantas

I think.. "character" is shown when one is put into the position of acting upon his/her beliefs. When push comes to shove beliefs are just words until one is challenged to act.

Also, I think character comes out when a person is facing a difficulty. I mean.. sometimes how one responds in crisis speaks to his/her character.

It's easy to be a good winner, but I think character comes into play when DOESN'T win.. I don't think one has to be happy about "losing," but at the same time it's important to handle losing with the same dignity as one handles winning.
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Reply #14 posted 05/26/09 8:52pm

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I think of character as a living, breathing, aspect that adjusts to the times....it is solid, but not rigid....not something that changes on the whim of the wind, but also not something that can't adjust to the life changing around it...

...or something like that.....

...I like to use the word "integrity" instead of character....maybe it's just a military thing, but if you have integrity (defined as doing the right thing, even when no one is looking), your character will NEVER come into question!
He was like a cock who thought the sun had risen to hear him crow.
(George Eliot)

the video for the above...evillol
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #15 posted 05/26/09 9:32pm

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reneGade20 said:

I think of character as a living, breathing, aspect that adjusts to the times....it is solid, but not rigid....not something that changes on the whim of the wind, but also not something that can't adjust to the life changing around it...

...or something like that.....

...I like to use the word "integrity" instead of character....maybe it's just a military thing, but if you have integrity (defined as doing the right thing, even when no one is looking), your character will NEVER come into question!



That was interesting, so I did a little searching. copy and paste.

How to Build Character Through Integrity

To thine own self be true, and it must follow, as the night the day, thou canst not then be false to any man (William Shakespeare, 1599-1601).

The wonderful thing about character and integrity, which are intimately related, is that they're one of the few things in life that no one will ever be able to forcefully take away from you. Your choices are your own. Even if someone can take your life, they can't force you to make a choice that you believe is wrong

Understand what Character and Integrity are. The definitions of these words are often stretched or misrepresented. Learn what they truly mean:

* In this use, Character is the sum of qualities that distinguish a person or group, moral or ethical strength, and the description of a person's attributes, traits and abilities. Character is who you are. (I like that) It defines you and guides your actions, hopefully in a positive way.
* Integrity is steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code, being unimpaired, sound, whole and undivided; completeness.
* Integrity can be summed up simply as doing the right thing for the right reason even when no one is watching.


"We who lived in concentration camps can remember the men who walked through the huts comforting others, giving away their last piece of bread. They may have been few in number, but they offer sufficient proof that everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of human freedoms - to choose one's attitude in any given set of circumstances - to choose one's own way."
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