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Printableabierman said: sextonseven said: Damn, you just brought down the hammer on the poor guy! she's right! Most definitely. I couldn't care less how much money a man has  .With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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FunkMistress said: NWF said: "Does money make you more desirable?"
I know I've been coming here sporadically and stuff lately. It's just that prince.org has been boring and I feel I've become a less admired figure here, unlike....say, Supafunkywhateverhisnameis. I still got mad love for you, man, but you're much cooler now. In any case, every now and then I will pop in and ask the burning questions. This one has been lingering over me for quite a while. See, I've established here before (to ad nauseum for some  ) that I haven't been successful in the love department. It seems to me like you have to have money to become more attractive. Or at least that's why my folks have raised me to believe.
My argument is that, sure, money may make you more desirable but it doesn't change who you are as a person. It can change some things like getting plastic surgery. But if you're an asshole who happens to be wealthy, you're still an asshole. You just have more money now. But my folks are telling me that girls won't go with me because I don't have money which means I can't provide much for her. But I don't think money should dictate relationships. I don't want a gold digger, I just want someone that understands both sides of wealth. Rich and poor, I mean. But money shouldn't be the most important thing. According to many of my relatives, it does. And they're telling me that that is the thing that's keeping me single. Am I right or wrong? You know what gets you girls? Charm. More than looks, money or sweetness, charm is what gets you in the door. And my guess is that you're not overflowing with charm. You come off as socially awkward and bitter. Even before you got to your main point in this post, you had to make sure to mention that you're not as popular on the Org as "Supafunkywhateverhisnameis." Now, you can waste your breath after statements like that claiming shit like "not that I care or anything" but the fact is, the shit makes you look bitter, and that's unattractive. Hear me out before you start arguing "but that's not what I mean." Chicks hear what you say, not what you mean. And I am a chick telling you how you sound to females. If you start talking to a girl and make it a point to mention that you're not paid and that's why you don't get girls, she's likely going to run Far. Away. From You. Not because you've told her you don't have money, but because you're a sad sack to likes to moan about what he doesn't have. Chicks do not dig that. Try smiling, listening, responding to social cues. Read about women and how their brains work. And for Christ's sweet sake, STOP BITCHING!!!   | |
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As a woman that has supported a man in a relationship: hell fuckin' yeah I care.
Charm is awesome and all that but damn, please don't have fucked up credit or ask me for money if those boundaries have not been set up in our relationship. Be broke, be poor but please don't be a burden. I don;t need the extra stress. | |
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No one should have to use material things to get a mate. To do so suggests that you don't have much else to offer or you think you don't have much else to offer. I know a few people like this, my father included, and if I had big enough balls I'd tell them to get some self esteem. Shake it til ya make it  | |
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FunkMistress said: You know what gets you girls?
Charm. More than looks, money or sweetness, charm is what gets you in the door. And my guess is that you're not overflowing with charm. You come off as socially awkward and bitter. Even before you got to your main point in this post, you had to make sure to mention that you're not as popular on the Org as "Supafunkywhateverhisnameis." Now, you can waste your breath after statements like that claiming shit like "not that I care or anything" but the fact is, the shit makes you look bitter, and that's unattractive. Hear me out before you start arguing "but that's not what I mean." Chicks hear what you say, not what you mean. And I am a chick telling you how you sound to females. If you start talking to a girl and make it a point to mention that you're not paid and that's why you don't get girls, she's likely going to run Far. Away. From You. Not because you've told her you don't have money, but because you're a sad sack to likes to moan about what he doesn't have. Chicks do not dig that. Try smiling, listening, responding to social cues. Read about women and how their brains work. And for Christ's sweet sake, STOP BITCHING!!! The truth. A good personality works wonders too. And try to avoid seeming desperate--girls can smell desperation a mile away.  | |
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FunkMistress said: NWF said: "Does money make you more desirable?"
I know I've been coming here sporadically and stuff lately. It's just that prince.org has been boring and I feel I've become a less admired figure here, unlike....say, Supafunkywhateverhisnameis. I still got mad love for you, man, but you're much cooler now. In any case, every now and then I will pop in and ask the burning questions. This one has been lingering over me for quite a while. See, I've established here before (to ad nauseum for some ) that I haven't been successful in the love department. It seems to me like you have to have money to become more attractive. Or at least that's why my folks have raised me to believe.
My argument is that, sure, money may make you more desirable but it doesn't change who you are as a person. It can change some things like getting plastic surgery. But if you're an asshole who happens to be wealthy, you're still an asshole. You just have more money now. But my folks are telling me that girls won't go with me because I don't have money which means I can't provide much for her. But I don't think money should dictate relationships. I don't want a gold digger, I just want someone that understands both sides of wealth. Rich and poor, I mean. But money shouldn't be the most important thing. According to many of my relatives, it does. And they're telling me that that is the thing that's keeping me single. Am I right or wrong? You know what gets you girls? Charm. More than looks, money or sweetness, charm is what gets you in the door. And my guess is that you're not overflowing with charm. You come off as socially awkward and bitter. Even before you got to your main point in this post, you had to make sure to mention that you're not as popular on the Org as "Supafunkywhateverhisnameis." Now, you can waste your breath after statements like that claiming shit like "not that I care or anything" but the fact is, the shit makes you look bitter, and that's unattractive. Hear me out before you start arguing "but that's not what I mean." Chicks hear what you say, not what you mean. And I am a chick telling you how you sound to females. If you start talking to a girl and make it a point to mention that you're not paid and that's why you don't get girls, she's likely going to run Far. Away. From You. Not because you've told her you don't have money, but because you're a sad sack to likes to moan about what he doesn't have. Chicks do not dig that. Try smiling, listening, responding to social cues. Read about women and how their brains work. And for Christ's sweet sake, STOP BITCHING!!! Fair enough. I'll accept this. But I will say this: Charm is not gonna pay the check at a restaurant, or won't pay for the movie or the concert, or pay for the cab ride. And I'm just keeping it real. Sure, you can have an awesome personality, but wouldn't those ladies expect you to have something to show for it? Now I'm not the most money-driven person so this issue didn't really matter to me. But now that I'm getting older and trying to understand the concepts of love and relationships and stuff, this has become an issue I've had to factor in. Haven't you listened to that Kayne West song, "Golddigger"? With many ladies that's how the attitude is and has been for quite some time. Go ahead, prove me wrong. In society today for a man it's all about being on point with everything. Having the money, the car, the nice suits, the apartment, the whatever. I have nothing against that though. I'm trying to get there, but I'm still a work in progress. And I don't mean to continuously bitch on here, but this is just my reality. I've learned from my relatives that girls don't wanna stay home all the time. They wanna go out and do stuff and see the world and have nice things. And what does that require primarily?
...and then some.  [Edited 9/27/08 2:46am] NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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I've said everything I needed to say here, so I'm just gonna conclude with this cartoon:
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: FunkMistress said: You know what gets you girls? Charm. More than looks, money or sweetness, charm is what gets you in the door. And my guess is that you're not overflowing with charm. You come off as socially awkward and bitter. Even before you got to your main point in this post, you had to make sure to mention that you're not as popular on the Org as "Supafunkywhateverhisnameis." Now, you can waste your breath after statements like that claiming shit like "not that I care or anything" but the fact is, the shit makes you look bitter, and that's unattractive. Hear me out before you start arguing "but that's not what I mean." Chicks hear what you say, not what you mean. And I am a chick telling you how you sound to females. If you start talking to a girl and make it a point to mention that you're not paid and that's why you don't get girls, she's likely going to run Far. Away. From You. Not because you've told her you don't have money, but because you're a sad sack to likes to moan about what he doesn't have. Chicks do not dig that. Try smiling, listening, responding to social cues. Read about women and how their brains work. And for Christ's sweet sake, STOP BITCHING!!! You know what, fine. Fair enough. I'll accept this. But I will say this: charm is not gonna pay the check at a restaurant, or won't pay for the movie or the concert, or pay for the cab ride. And I'm just keeping it real. I've learned from my relatives that girls don't wanna stay home all the time. They wanna go out and do stuff and see the world. And what does that require primarily? MONEY!!! why did you even start this thread in the first place if you're so convinced there are no women who select men for qualities other than their money? it's always the same old thread with you. | |
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evenstar3 said: NWF said: You know what, fine. Fair enough. I'll accept this. But I will say this: charm is not gonna pay the check at a restaurant, or won't pay for the movie or the concert, or pay for the cab ride. And I'm just keeping it real. I've learned from my relatives that girls don't wanna stay home all the time. They wanna go out and do stuff and see the world. And what does that require primarily? MONEY!!! why did you even start this thread in the first place if you're so convinced there are no women who select men for qualities other than their money? it's always the same old thread with you. You know what though. Even if I am doing threads like these, there's still that optimistic side of me that believes there is someone out there for me. This must be my Scorpio side taking over. Scorpios tend to be obsessed with things.
Fine, I'll get back to the New Wave artists then. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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NWF said: But I will say this: Charm is not gonna pay the check at a restaurant, or won't pay for the movie or the concert, or pay for the cab ride. And I'm just keeping it real. Sure, you can have an awesome personality, but wouldn't those ladies expect you to have something to show for it? Now I'm not the most money-driven person so this issue didn't really matter to me. But now that I'm getting older and trying to understand the concepts of love and relationships and stuff, this has become an issue I've had to factor in. Haven't you listened to that Kayne West song, "Golddigger"? With many ladies that's how the attitude is and has been for quite some time. Go ahead, prove me wrong.
In society today for a man it's all about being on point with everything. Having the money, the car, the nice suits, the apartment, the whatever. I have nothing against that though. I'm trying to get there, but I'm still a work in progress. And I don't mean to continuously bitch on here, but this is just my reality. I've learned from my relatives that girls don't wanna stay home all the time. They wanna go out and do stuff and see the world and have nice things. And what does that require primarily?
...and then some.
reply #26 .... and independent women have their own money (and don't listen to Kanye ) ... maybe the type women 'you' are dating are gold diggers....that doesn't apply to all women and doesn't matter how much money he has.... if she's not interested, his materialism doesn't matter.. | |
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I don't know. I'm not one for splashing the cash, I know that. I just try to be a nice guy. I've sometimes thought about if I were single now whether I'd be able to get a girl, and often I think I couldn't. Being hooked up already seems to draw more women to me, that's for sure, and my personality seems agreeable to some, but I think I'd be lost if it came to taking women out on dates, trying to impress them and all that shit. I don't really care. Before, I could never see myself in a relationship anyway, though I ended up being what someone was after and things clicked. I suppose thinking it over that I wouldn't have a problem. I think I'd attract someone pretty cool and I wouldn't mind being patient and waiting however long to meet that person. My wife thinks the world of me, so I must be alright. | |
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NWF said: Fair enough. I'll accept this.
But I will say this: Charm is not gonna pay the check at a restaurant, or won't pay for the movie or the concert, or pay for the cab ride. And I'm just keeping it real. Sure, you can have an awesome personality, but wouldn't those ladies expect you to have something to show for it? Now I'm not the most money-driven person so this issue didn't really matter to me. But now that I'm getting older and trying to understand the concepts of love and relationships and stuff, this has become an issue I've had to factor in. Haven't you listened to that Kayne West song, "Golddigger"? With many ladies that's how the attitude is and has been for quite some time. Go ahead, prove me wrong. You live in New York! There are all sorts of things to do for free that would be 'charming' to girls. It just requires some creativity. Most museums usually have a free night, or they have suggested donations (e.g. pay-what-you wish). MoMA screens films all the time, and they are free with your paid admission to the museum. Art galleries have openings all the time which are free, and usually include snacks and free alcohol. You went to BAM for that SOTT anniversary band thing, right? That was free, wasn't it? There are tons of places to eat that are inexpensive and charming. Or there are always coffee shops or diners. I would say you could invite a girl over and cook for her (definitely inexpensive), but probably most girls are not going to go to a stranger's apartment for a first date. And hello, the subway is only $2, plus I bet most girls have their own subway card. Unless it's between 1am--6am, the subway is a perfectly acceptable form of transportion, imo. I think you are just using "lack of money" as an excuse, because as several girls on this thread have pointed out, they don't necessarily care about that. Now if you can't even pay for yourself, then yah, that's lame. If all the girls you are trying to date expect tons of money, they maybe you need to change where you're looking or the type of girls you're asking out. In society today for a man it's all about being on point with everything. Having the money, the car, the nice suits, the apartment, the whatever. I have nothing against that though. I'm trying to get there, but I'm still a work in progress. And I don't mean to continuously bitch on here, but this is just my reality. I've learned from my relatives that girls don't wanna stay home all the time. They wanna go out and do stuff and see the world and have nice things. And what does that require primarily?
...and then some.
That's true, but as I just pointed out, there are tons of things to do outside the house that are inexpensive. It just requires a little creativity. You make it sound like these girls expect to be whisked away in a private jet to the Maldives or something for a first date. And if that's really the case, then you need to change the type of girl because you're obviously picking ones who do not share your views on what an acceptable first date is.
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DevotedPuppy said: You live in New York! There are all sorts of things to do for free that would be 'charming' to girls. It just requires some creativity.
Most museums usually have a free night, or they have suggested donations (e.g. pay-what-you wish). MoMA screens films all the time, and they are free with your paid admission to the museum. Art galleries have openings all the time which are free, and usually include snacks and free alcohol. You went to BAM for that SOTT anniversary band thing, right? That was free, wasn't it? There are tons of places to eat that are inexpensive and charming. Or there are always coffee shops or diners. I would say you could invite a girl over and cook for her (definitely inexpensive), but probably most girls are not going to go to a stranger's apartment for a first date. And hello, the subway is only $2, plus I bet most girls have their own subway card. Unless it's between 1am--6am, the subway is a perfectly acceptable form of transportion, imo. I think you are just using "lack of money" as an excuse, because as several girls on this thread have pointed out, they don't necessarily care about that. Now if you can't even pay for yourself, then yah, that's lame. If all the girls you are trying to date expect tons of money, they maybe you need to change where you're looking or the type of girls you're asking out. 
a guy who wants to go to a museum/some arts event gets massive points with me.  | |
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