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Reply #30 posted 05/01/07 3:04am

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susannah said:

Thanks guys smile Top one it is!


On a related note:

pissed

I just spent 2 hours running all over town to find somewhere to bind it, when it turns out they DO do it here at uni rolleyes dead

And don't shout at me, I'm waiting for my friend and I'm going for breakfast, then I will work geek


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it is 11am whip
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Reply #31 posted 05/01/07 3:07am

susannah

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ellieadore said:

susannah said:

Thanks guys smile Top one it is!


On a related note:

pissed

I just spent 2 hours running all over town to find somewhere to bind it, when it turns out they DO do it here at uni rolleyes dead

And don't shout at me, I'm waiting for my friend and I'm going for breakfast, then I will work geek


whip

it is 11am whip


I WAS HERE TIL 11PM LAST NIGHT! mad


bawl Dont shout at me sad
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Reply #32 posted 05/01/07 3:08am

Fauxie

This thread is really... unfortunate. lol

But I say the bar graph! woot!
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Reply #33 posted 05/01/07 3:09am

ellieadore

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susannah said:

ellieadore said:



whip

it is 11am whip


I WAS HERE TIL 11PM LAST NIGHT! mad


bawl Dont shout at me sad


comfort almost done nod Think of the piss up u will have on Friday night hug

Not long to go now until we party
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Reply #34 posted 05/01/07 4:03am

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ellieadore said:

susannah said:



I WAS HERE TIL 11PM LAST NIGHT! mad


bawl Dont shout at me sad


comfort almost done nod Think of the piss up u will have on Friday night hug

Not long to go now until we party


excited

ok I am going back to work now biggrin
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Reply #35 posted 05/01/07 7:33am

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The first graph is clearest to understand.
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Reply #36 posted 05/01/07 7:52am

MIGUELGOMEZ

Good luck sweety. Yeah, the first graph.


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Reply #37 posted 05/01/07 8:04am

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It depends what you are trying to conclude.

Each is an independent analysis so by placing them in some kind of order in graph one you are implying importance to each end of the graph. In which case the area graph (graph 2) is the best for the job (despite looking hideous BTW). If your message is as I expect it to be and warranting graph one, then put the cities in alphabetical order. You can then discuss the implications on London and New York as "most necessary" in your discussion. This gives a more non bias approach to presenting the data and at the same time give you scope for discussion (without “giving it all away”)

I would also tone down the colours, it is possibly better if you let the data speak for itself and it is good data thumbs up! This can depend on your field but I am guessing plain and simple factual presentation is key.

Please excuse my comments if you like but you knew I wouldn't be able to stay away from this one! Let me know if you have any other Q's

There are other options too for the graphs such as individual pie charts for each city but that could look messy.
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Reply #38 posted 05/01/07 8:35am

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PREDOMINANT said:

It depends what you are trying to conclude.

Each is an independent analysis so by placing them in some kind of order in graph one you are implying importance to each end of the graph. In which case the area graph (graph 2) is the best for the job (despite looking hideous BTW). If your message is as I expect it to be and warranting graph one, then put the cities in alphabetical order. You can then discuss the implications on London and New York as "most necessary" in your discussion. This gives a more non bias approach to presenting the data and at the same time give you scope for discussion (without “giving it all away”)

I would also tone down the colours, it is possibly better if you let the data speak for itself and it is good data thumbs up! This can depend on your field but I am guessing plain and simple factual presentation is key.

Please excuse my comments if you like but you knew I wouldn't be able to stay away from this one! Let me know if you have any other Q's

There are other options too for the graphs such as individual pie charts for each city but that could look messy.
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lol

I was wondering when you'd show up!

I did originally have them in random order, in the order I asked them in the question, but apparently that was difficult to read, and to make my [slightly biased, but then so is the data] point, I put them in order of replies.

As for the colours, all my other graphs are simple and look rather snazzy with their blue background and blue data - but there are just not enough shades of blue for this graph! So I went for some sort of "danger" theme nutty

I did think of individual pie charts, but there would be too many, and take up too much room, and as it is, the text I have explaining it does a pretty good job, I think...

I tried a line graph but that just looked mad. Hang on I will get the other ones on here, just for you Professor Predom mr.green

Nothing to do with the fact that youre the only person in this thread who's ever marked anything close to a BSc Dissertation! lol

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Reply #39 posted 05/01/07 8:43am

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The line graph



The original 2nd graph



How about this then? Change order? hmmm



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Reply #40 posted 05/01/07 8:58am

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Aaaaand again.

Don't you think the biased one, in order, is clearer than this?

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Reply #41 posted 05/01/07 9:01am

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susannah said:

Aaaaand again.

Don't you think the biased one, in order, is clearer than this?



nod the first one was a lot clearer.
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Reply #42 posted 05/01/07 9:02am

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evenstar3 said:

susannah said:

Aaaaand again.

Don't you think the biased one, in order, is clearer than this?



nod the first one was a lot clearer.


the blue-greens are better though aren't they?

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Reply #43 posted 05/01/07 9:06am

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susannah said:

evenstar3 said:



nod the first one was a lot clearer.


the blue-greens are better though aren't they?

hug Thanks!


well, a higher bar in each city translates to more protection needed against terrorism, right? on a basic level i think red = danger, so the other colors might be better. the blues are more matchy though. hmmm
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Reply #44 posted 05/01/07 9:08am

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evenstar3 said:

susannah said:



the blue-greens are better though aren't they?

hug Thanks!


well, a higher bar in each city translates to more protection needed against terrorism, right? on a basic level i think red = danger, so the other colors might be better. the blues are more matchy though. hmmm


Thats what I thought! doh!

I should have just kept my mouth shut neutral
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Reply #45 posted 05/01/07 9:10am

Spookymuffin

susannah said:

evenstar3 said:



well, a higher bar in each city translates to more protection needed against terrorism, right? on a basic level i think red = danger, so the other colors might be better. the blues are more matchy though. hmmm


Thats what I thought! doh!

I should have just kept my mouth shut neutral

nod

Stick the the original red-coloured graph. So clear. Clarity over looks, darling. smile
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Reply #46 posted 05/01/07 9:12am

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Spookymuffin said:

susannah said:



Thats what I thought! doh!

I should have just kept my mouth shut neutral

nod

Stick the the original red-coloured graph. So clear. Clarity over looks, darling. smile


The first one from the first post? hmmm

Ok, but I'm waiting for Predom to come back though....
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Reply #47 posted 05/01/07 9:14am

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Spookymuffin said:


nod

Stick the the original red-coloured graph. So clear. Clarity over looks, darling. smile


The first one from the first post? hmmm

Ok, but I'm waiting for Predom to come back though....


I like stars. biggrin
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Reply #48 posted 05/01/07 9:14am

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Spookymuffin said:

susannah said:



The first one from the first post? hmmm

Ok, but I'm waiting for Predom to come back though....


I like stars. biggrin


confused Eh?




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Reply #49 posted 05/01/07 9:28am

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Reply #50 posted 05/01/07 9:53am

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NastyPig said:

do I get a free 50" plasma TV?


What d'yo think I am, Comet?! rolleyes
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Reply #51 posted 05/02/07 2:39am

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Sorry, got caught up in the footie last night and didn't log on again.

Blue green is definitely better. All results, tables and graphs should (in general) stick to the same colour scheme throughout your piece of work. This will give your dissertation clarity and continuity and convey to the reader that you understand the topic and your results.

With regard to the order, this is difficult because we are in different fields. In science data should be presented in a random, non-bias fashion. The results you portray are then seen to be more "real" and not messed with. By re-ordering the cities you are almost implying that this was implicit from the start (and therefore why study it?). The order as determined from the results (not by the results) can then be explained in words or, if you like, further figures.

There is no justification for the Tokyo first example, like I said yesterday go with alphabetical if you decide to go with and out of order option. As you discuss your data put in another figure just showing the "highly necessary" data in order to illustrate your point. In fact this will highlight the fact that some believed that Edinburgh is in need of protection. Sometimes these smaller points can become lost in a "full" figure. Also by breaking the figure down it will give you much more mileage with your data.

One thing I forgot yesterday was to mention that there are no units on your "y" axis, this should be

necessity in number of responses (for example, if this is the case)

The other graphs are pants! lol

Now can I get on with marking the pile of dissertations I have on my desk? These will fail evillol you will do just fine thumbs up!
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Reply #52 posted 05/02/07 2:45am

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PREDOMINANT said:

Sorry, got caught up in the footie last night and didn't log on again.

Blue green is definitely better. All results, tables and graphs should (in general) stick to the same colour scheme throughout your piece of work. This will give your dissertation clarity and continuity and convey to the reader that you understand the topic and your results.

With regard to the order, this is difficult because we are in different fields. In science data should be presented in a random, non-bias fashion. The results you portray are then seen to be more "real" and not messed with. By re-ordering the cities you are almost implying that this was implicit from the start (and therefore why study it?). The order as determined from the results (not by the results) can then be explained in words or, if you like, further figures.

There is no justification for the Tokyo first example, like I said yesterday go with alphabetical if you decide to go with and out of order option. As you discuss your data put in another figure just showing the "highly necessary" data in order to illustrate your point. In fact this will highlight the fact that some believed that Edinburgh is in need of protection. Sometimes these smaller points can become lost in a "full" figure. Also by breaking the figure down it will give you much more mileage with your data.

One thing I forgot yesterday was to mention that there are no units on your "y" axis, this should be

necessity in number of responses (for example, if this is the case)

The other graphs are pants! lol

Now can I get on with marking the pile of dissertations I have on my desk? These will fail evillol you will do just fine thumbs up!


falloff

THANKYOU Predom worship

Taken it all on board nod geek

Now, back to work for both of us! reading
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Reply #53 posted 05/02/07 3:17am

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susannah said:

PREDOMINANT said:

Sorry, got caught up in the footie last night and didn't log on again.

Blue green is definitely better. All results, tables and graphs should (in general) stick to the same colour scheme throughout your piece of work. This will give your dissertation clarity and continuity and convey to the reader that you understand the topic and your results.

With regard to the order, this is difficult because we are in different fields. In science data should be presented in a random, non-bias fashion. The results you portray are then seen to be more "real" and not messed with. By re-ordering the cities you are almost implying that this was implicit from the start (and therefore why study it?). The order as determined from the results (not by the results) can then be explained in words or, if you like, further figures.

There is no justification for the Tokyo first example, like I said yesterday go with alphabetical if you decide to go with and out of order option. As you discuss your data put in another figure just showing the "highly necessary" data in order to illustrate your point. In fact this will highlight the fact that some believed that Edinburgh is in need of protection. Sometimes these smaller points can become lost in a "full" figure. Also by breaking the figure down it will give you much more mileage with your data.

One thing I forgot yesterday was to mention that there are no units on your "y" axis, this should be

necessity in number of responses (for example, if this is the case)

The other graphs are pants! lol

Now can I get on with marking the pile of dissertations I have on my desk? These will fail evillol you will do just fine thumbs up!


falloff

THANKYOU Predom worship

Taken it all on board nod geek

Now, back to work for both of us! reading


pout
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Reply #54 posted 05/02/07 3:18am

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PREDOMINANT said:

susannah said:



falloff

THANKYOU Predom worship

Taken it all on board nod geek

Now, back to work for both of us! reading


pout


I'm going for a fry-up now nana
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Reply #55 posted 05/02/07 3:20am

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susannah said:

PREDOMINANT said:



pout


I'm going for a fry-up now nana


Y'see now thats where we differ. I have a cold cup of coffee and some bulshit amin to do.

I wanna new job pout
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Reply #56 posted 05/02/07 4:14am

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PREDOMINANT said:

susannah said:



I'm going for a fry-up now nana


Y'see now thats where we differ. I have a cold cup of coffee and some bulshit amin to do.

I wanna new job pout


lol Oh don't worry dear, everyone wants my job (student) lol
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Reply #57 posted 05/02/07 4:35am

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susannah said:

PREDOMINANT said:



Y'see now thats where we differ. I have a cold cup of coffee and some bulshit amin to do.

I wanna new job pout


lol Oh don't worry dear, everyone wants my job (student) lol


What i would give to be a student again! sad
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Reply #58 posted 05/02/07 4:38am

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PREDOMINANT said:

susannah said:



lol Oh don't worry dear, everyone wants my job (student) lol


What i would give to be a student again! sad


lol Don't, I will be in that sorry state soon enough bawl
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