I still have to wait two more weeks before it comes out here, but I've read rave-reviews! Has anyone here seen it already? What did you think of it? Is it really the masterpiece the media says it is?
I find the topic of the movie extremely interesting and I think it shows that Spielberg has guts making this movie, as I heard that his take on the events that took place is critical towards both sides.

People who saw, speak!!!!

Did you get me anything from your vacation?

never heard of it.


I've seen jim carey posters though, but i dont think that looked like a speilberg film

2the9s said:

a hangover for you, a hug for your daughter.....


thanks for killing my first serious thread of the year.....


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abierman said:

Thank you, and I got your MySpace message!

I heard that the movie is short on fact, no? It's like an imaginative recreation of what happened? Is it getting praised?

yeah my munich thread died too... its the best for the buck this year!

Spielberg's criticism of both sides comes through loud and clear. It was too long, too repetitive. The subtleties succeed best, though, and the film drifts into hyperbole at times. Was he trying to remake The Godfather? I wondered. Still, I thought it was a solid film, 3 out of 4 stars, maybe 3 1/2.

I am so looking forward to see it. My dad was part of the dutch olympic equipe and was there in the Olympic Village when the terrorist act took place. I know that the movie is more about the events that took place afterwards, but I still want to go see it with him. It will also be interesting to get a view of how the Israeli Mossad is working.

abierman said:

that is cool and tragic at the same time. what kind of sports did he do?

dawntreader said:

He was in the sailing-team, Flying Dutchman class. It meant that most of the time during the Games he was in Kiel and not in Munich, but when the attack happened he was in Munich..... He hasn't seen much of it, they were ordered to stay inside. Also he has told me about the emotions of defeat after the tragedy and the weird feeling of continuig the Games after the massacre.

abierman said:

that is very interesting... i hope your father was able to work through it emotionally i am glad the was able to talk about it to you. my father is a bad bad talker, he just piles up his emotions.

ufoclub said:

i made a thread on it too

dawntreader said:

Well like I said, he told me that he didn't notice much of it while it happened apart from what was shown to the media. Ofcourse everybody was devastated, but the Games continued. I believe a day later he was off to Kiel again to sail races....ofcourse with a strange gut feeling!

I really want to see this movie, it looks great

It was very good. The acting was solid. I love the scenery. They filmed in about 5 different countries. Let me know what you think. There's one scene that made me cry in record time. I swear it was like 1 second and I was a crying fool. See if you can guess what part.


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I don't know where to start to tell you how bad Munich was.. it could have been such a great movie had someone with more knowledge and life and less "reputation" like Spielberg worked on it. Add this one to his string of bombs. The movie was too busy trying to make statements than to look real.. it had the senselessness of a cheap western with stale and tiresome scenes that i've already seen a billion times.

what a pathetic rushjob S.S. poorly created for American audiences. First he wipes his ass with the colossal bomb War of the Worlds and now this... It seemed like they were trying to portait Israel as having the worst spy intelligence in the world having to result to paying desperately tons of money to unknown sources off the street... ??? Right.

Savannah said:

No. They werent paying Unknown sources off of the street. Not at all.

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

It was sad. The way they were killed while handsbound

TheCatWoman said:

Thats right, the movie couldn't be any more far fetched. Well thats what happens when the director rushes and drops the project to do Bore of the Worlds with Tom Cruise, then picks it back up and finishes it doing a half-assed job. I can see him in a room full of investors telling them that the American market would be too stupid to notice the "dumbing down" and lack of research done on the project. Spielberg is getting a bad-reputation for half assed films and shitty remakes.

TheCatWoman said:

Believe it or not. The part that made me cry was when he was talking to his wife and she puts his baby on the phone.


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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I think that part made most of us cry.

so you didn't like the film because it favored cinematic style and romantic fantasy over factual detail and presentation? Speilberg's movies are always abstracted into emotion and mood with a skeleton of structured plot. And he does this with a muscle that demolishes many others' attempts. Personally I view the entire world with a certain sense of abstraction and also an equal value to all my senses and drives. So in a scene in Munich where they are having food and the camera and dilaogue might linger on the dishes set out on the table, I am satieted, because that is exactly what I look for in this film: elements that bring connotations that play into my lusts, fears, hunger, hope... etc. I'm not too concerned with the factual details,because I would rather watch a well made documentary for that.

Savannah said:

The film is based on the bestseller "Vengeance" by George Jonas.... so for the people who did not read the book and went to see the film....I pity them ...cause the book is much better..... Speilberg needed to censor to make the film acceptable to a larger audience...just like he did in his previous masterpiece "Schindlers List" ....The book is a lot more evened with all the fumbles included ...but it portrays the Israeli intelligence in a very "humane" way .....but also in a very CIA like way....with all the possible ways to get to the enemy.....I recommend everyone here to read the book before even trying to critisize the film..... in short the film sucks ...yes it does....but spielberg I guess had no choice.... he almost never released the film....I think the only thing in the film I liked was the acting by Ayelet Zorer ...she is the one that portrays Eric Bana's wife.....

Meanwhile I've seen the movie....haven't read the book! I 'enjoyed' the movie, great directing, awesome acting, suspenseful. Only I hate the fact that Spielberg didn't quite take a stance on the issue (deliberately?). Also, the story wasn't complete: the 'Lillehammer-Affair' was left out completely, where the Mossad-assasins failed to execute Palestinian terrorist Salameh and mistakenly shot & killed a Moroccan waiter. Several agents were arrested by Norwegian police and served several years in prison.
Also, Spielberg failed to elaborate the alleged connection between the Black September-group and the CIA, which has never been proven.

Again, I didn't read the book, I did enjoy the movie.

abierman said:

that is impossible.

the movie comes out this friday in the netherlands!