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Thread started 09/22/10 7:00am

skywalker

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Is it odd the The Kid never apologizes to Apollonia?

I was watching Purple Rain and it struck me that she just seems to forgive him and he never really apologizes for slapping her around.

Chalk it up to the power of the song "Purple Rain", but that song is dedicated to his dad and was written by the girls. It seems to be a general blanket apology, and not necessarily directed at Apollonia. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

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Reply #1 posted 09/22/10 7:11am

Spinlight

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skywalker said:

I was watching Purple Rain and it struck me that she just seems to forgive him and he never really apologizes for slapping her around.

Chalk it up to the power of the song "Purple Rain", but that song is dedicated to his dad and was written by the girls. It seems to be a general blanket apology, and not necessarily directed at Apollonia. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

Well, he has no reason to apologize to his father. I think the dedication was to his health and surviving the suicide attempt, not so much the feeling behind the music. I think it's pretty interesting that he actually never says sorry in any way. (Even saying "I never meant..." is not an apology, it's just a declaration of intent.) But as a literary tool, the song is an implied apology.

Then again, the concept of Prince being knee-deep in misogyny is nothing new. He always was, always will be a misogynist.

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Reply #2 posted 09/22/10 7:45am

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Well she split any way and didn't hang around for Graffiti Bridge razz

I do not consider GB canon to PR. lurking

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Reply #3 posted 09/22/10 7:50am

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no it's not odd that he never apologizes, he's not made of what it takes to apologize

this too shall pass
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Reply #4 posted 09/22/10 8:02am

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It's not Purple Rain that gets her to forgive him. She comes back in the morning, while he's sorting through all his father's music sheets. So maybe it's implied that he apologized and we just didn't see it.

There are also a couple other things to consider:

1) Their relationship is hella fucked up.

2) Apollonia (the character) isn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

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Reply #5 posted 09/22/10 8:19am

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Efan said:

It's not Purple Rain that gets her to forgive him. She comes back in the morning, while he's sorting through all his father's music sheets. So maybe it's implied that he apologized and we just didn't see it.

There are also a couple other things to consider:

1) Their relationship is hella fucked up.

2) Apollonia (the character) isn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

lol After all, earlier in the movie he tricks her into getting buck ass and jumping into freezing water. Her reaction is to flash a "darn that charming man" smile as she shiveringly puts her leather gear back on.

"Hope is the feeling we have that the feeling we have is not permanent."-Mignon McLaughlin
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Reply #6 posted 09/22/10 10:29am

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Well, concerning Apples, Purple Rain is a metaphor describing the most intimate moment in their relationship. The first time they made love and connected physically. It's too bad that we won't get to see it as it was cut from the movie. It also explains why she was so emotional after the performance. I choose to look at the entire story as outlined in the screenplay as opposed to the final cut.

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Reply #7 posted 09/22/10 10:52am

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Efan said:

It's not Purple Rain that gets her to forgive him. She comes back in the morning, while he's sorting through all his father's music sheets. So maybe it's implied that he apologized and we just didn't see it.

There are also a couple other things to consider:

1) Their relationship is hella fucked up.

2) Apollonia (the character) isn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier.

U beat me 2 it

I was going to mention that scene that was cut but was shown in snippets during the movie

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Reply #8 posted 09/22/10 10:54am

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He does apologize. Just after he smacks the shit out of her.

APOLLONIA
I'm going to join Morris'
group.

He LUNGES savagely before he knows it!
His hand lashes out, SMASHES her in the
face. She falls back, CRASHES into the
mirror. She slips dully to the floor,
tries desperately to brace herself on a
chair--

He's horrified--

PRINCE
I'm sorry! Oh, baby, I'm
sorry! Are you alright?

He helps her up, she turns away from him-
-

APOLLONIA
Just...leave me alone.

[Edited 9/24/10 12:48pm]

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Reply #9 posted 09/22/10 11:03am

purpledoveuk

skywalker said:

I was watching Purple Rain and it struck me that she just seems to forgive him and he never really apologizes for slapping her around.



Chalk it up to the power of the song "Purple Rain", but that song is dedicated to his dad and was written by the girls. It seems to be a general blanket apology, and not necessarily directed at Apollonia. Anyone else have thoughts on this?






Damn right...that's the 2 rules of a successful relationship:

1) never admit you're wrong

2) Women should be seen and not heard.


Im kidding...jeez, I don't wear 'the trousers in my house that's for sure.

When has Prince ever apologies for anything?
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Reply #10 posted 09/22/10 12:13pm

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Didn't he apologize when he rushed over to her after slapping her? And then she ran out. I'm guessing she understood what was going on with him and just forgave him...

Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol
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Reply #11 posted 09/22/10 12:40pm

purpledoveuk

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Didn't he apologize when he rushed over to her after slapping her? And then she ran out. I'm guessing she understood what was going on with him and just forgave him...




Whhooooah there...I know you're a mega fan and ge can do no wrong and it's just a film...but did u really just excuse it?
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Reply #12 posted 09/22/10 4:43pm

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NouveauDance said:

Well she split any way and didn't hang around for Graffiti Bridge razz

I do not consider GB canon to PR. lurking

lol

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A train is leaving all day..."
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Reply #13 posted 09/22/10 5:19pm

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Since when did Prince movies require logic and reason? lol

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Reply #14 posted 09/22/10 5:28pm

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NouveauDance said:

Well she split any way and didn't hang around for Graffiti Bridge razz

Now that was a smart move biggrin

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Reply #15 posted 09/22/10 7:03pm

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art imitates life

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Reply #16 posted 09/22/10 8:12pm

NastradumasKid

skywalker said:

I was watching Purple Rain and it struck me that she just seems to forgive him and he never really apologizes for slapping her around.

Chalk it up to the power of the song "Purple Rain", but that song is dedicated to his dad and was written by the girls. It seems to be a general blanket apology, and not necessarily directed at Apollonia. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

That always used to baffle me. disbelief The more times I saw the movie and got older and actually observe, the more I was going "WTF???!!!" lol

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Reply #17 posted 09/22/10 10:21pm

purpledoveuk

If I was her I'd say "...and I'm taking that guitar back too you ungrateful prick"
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Reply #18 posted 09/24/10 2:07am

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Yeah she didn't exactly arrive in Minneapolis with much money, just a wad of $20s that she used to buy the hotel room, and she had to hock her gold bracelet to get the guitar (Yet its back at the end of the movie). Sounds like a bad script too, I doubt she was making much for being in Apollonia 6.

So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #19 posted 09/24/10 2:08am

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Huggiebear said:

Yeah she didn't exactly arrive in Minneapolis with much money, just a wad of $20s that she used to buy the hotel room (And skipped the taxi fare of $37.75), and she had to hock her gold bracelet to get the guitar (Yet its back at the end of the movie). Sounds like a bad script too, I doubt she was making much for being in Apollonia 6.

So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #20 posted 09/24/10 2:41am

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BorisFishpaw said:

NouveauDance said:

Well she split any way and didn't hang around for Graffiti Bridge razz

Now that was a smart move biggrin

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Reply #21 posted 09/24/10 2:45am

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dannyd5050 said:

He does apologize. Just after he smacks the shit out of her.

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Reply #22 posted 09/25/10 6:27am

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has prince apologized for anything lol

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Reply #23 posted 09/25/10 10:54am

Timmy84

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Since when did Prince movies require logic and reason? lol

yeahthat lol

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Reply #24 posted 09/25/10 11:23am

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purpledoveuk said:

When has Prince ever apologies for anything?

I was wondering the same thing.

RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #25 posted 09/25/10 12:23pm

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purpledoveuk said:

DaphneLovesPR1NCE said:

Didn't he apologize when he rushed over to her after slapping her? And then she ran out. I'm guessing she understood what was going on with him and just forgave him...




Whhooooah there...I know you're a mega fan and ge can do no wrong and it's just a film...but did u really just excuse it?


Oh gosh no! I'm just saying that's what I got from the movie...the way she came back to him and all when he was going thru the songs. He grew up with the violence and that's what he learned, doesn't make it right, just saying that maybe that's why she forgave him. Oh and that he did indeed apologize..
Prince is GORGEOUS. I'm inspired. GOD is GREAT. Is there anything else to say? lol
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Reply #26 posted 09/25/10 6:34pm

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lydiaravenswood said:

has prince apologized for anything lol

not that i'm aware of, but apparently The Kid did, in the movie.

maybe fiction will become fact one day.

this too shall pass
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Reply #27 posted 09/26/10 9:25am

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lol Jeez, it was just a movie! It wasn't real. lol

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Reply #28 posted 10/01/10 11:05pm

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bananadance

skywalker said:

I was watching Purple Rain and it struck me that she just seems to forgive him and he never really apologizes for slapping her around.

Chalk it up to the power of the song "Purple Rain", but that song is dedicated to his dad and was written by the girls. It seems to be a general blanket apology, and not necessarily directed at Apollonia. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

He never apologized 2 me ohgoon guitar guitar
I wonder did he apologize when
he wrote the song I like the way
she dance 4 me Be quiet I'm
only joking biggrin biggrin lol guitar guitar bananadance bananadance
♥ Feeling Purple Rain...Don't hold on 2 the pain, hold on 2 the memories ♥
My heart will go on...Celine Dion
I will always love you...Whitney Houston
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Reply #29 posted 10/21/10 10:12pm

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i was thinking about that too. i'd never let a man smack me. i'd smack him right back! i'm from jersey and we don't take that here...then if the italian side found out someone would beat him up!!

yoda i don't wear a cross?!!? i wear a prince symbol prince guitar wacky nutty I When Prince's cum dries, diamonds are formed. lol eek drooling no one tops prince in concert!
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