Antony7 isn't that part of the community called Music:Non-Prince???

I'm tired: bye bye.... to all the haters out there!!!

Why not tell that to the misguided and bitter idiot who started the debate?

Anyone who can listen to 'Speechless' and not feel the urge to vomit should be executed by default anyway. It's a free world, but there's only so much we should tolerate.

*YAWN* C'mon beautiful people, lets forget this argument, it is futile, and ridiculous, it doesn't deserve this much attention... we have said and heard all this banter before... lets not undermine Prince anymore by comparing him to MJ...

I would never 'diss' Michael Jackson based upon being a Prince fan. Michael Jackson is dissed on his own merits.

I have every right to be here. I'm a Prince fan.

Learn some R-E-S-P-E-C-T!

Some of you have the charm of a vegatarian meatball.

Whilst we're in the mood for popularity contests...

I almost laughed out loud at the person who told me to "go to one of MJ's incredible-active fan sites (not)". Prince's fanbase isn't half of MJ's. In 1998, Prince stuggled to sell out Wembley Arena (10,000). In 1997, MJ sold out Wembley STADIUM (75,000) four times! So Michael can sell 300,000 tickets with ease, whereas Prince stuggles to sell a mere 10,000. I'll leave you to do the math.

yeah,

hmmmm

Okay, Michael Jackson apparently sells more albums and tickets than Prince. What does that mean? That MJ is more appealing to more people in this world. So what? Anyone is free to listen to music s/he likes. And Prince's music and lyrics are a lot harder to grasp for most people. Where MJ touch his balls once again and screams out he is so 'Bad', Prince took up the gun and killed that bitch (Bob George). A harder message and a very disturbing sound underneath...
Examples of this difference can be given throughout the career of both - it requires another chat-thread I am afraid.
There is simply a smaller market for the kind of music and lyrics Prince creates, so he sells less albums and thus less people show up at his concerts.
However, when comparing artists with each other the salesnumber is not the only criteria (if a criteria at all...).
Listen to the top 10 of radio and check the lists of critics favorite albums of the moment... there is a lot more Prince influence than Jackson's...
Go and read the Jill Scott thread in the News section. When did you read an artist talk about a Jackson album in that way?

I leave the math of that to you!

I never diss on any artist, also not on Michael but in my book he is of no relevance. And Prince is, that is the difference!

oh you are quiet now
sorry couldn't resist

Everybody knows there's jams in Prince's discography that Michael Jackson fans bob their heads to. Everybody knows there's jams in MJ's discography that Prince fans bob their heads to. It's time to come out of the "fan closets". All yall know you wanna jump up like you shoutin' in church and say, "Yeah!" It's all about enjoying music that moves YOU, and both of them have "HIT" you in your hearts at one time or another with songs. Michael has rocked your world and Prince has made you do funky math (1+1+1=3).

MICHAEL IS THE BOMB !!!
yes its very sad that he's so fucked up looking that no woman in her right mind would want to touch him BUT for as long as i have been living he's been the man !!! i love him but 500% i'll check out a real "developing" artist like prince b4 some teddy riley, rodney jerkins produced crap !!!i say call quincy mike, and bring along louis johnson, and rod temperton to the studio.
peace

locoarts said: "NEVER singing LIVE anywhere.. ANYWHERE in OVER 20 years??? HOW are you a musican?? TURN YOUR MIC ON??? ( he even lip syncs his Ballads)"

Just a quick note: While MJ did lip sync ( actually singing live OVER pre recorded tracks) to his solo stuff on the reunion special he sang every note completely live when he performed with his brothers. You may want to clean your ears out or at least try to know what your talking about next time you choose to post. If your a musician then you obviously are a bad one because you don't hear music very well and if your not stop talking like you are because you don't make yourself seem the most intelligent. Just wanted to let you know.

MICHAEL IS DA BOMB !!! yeah right...

but let me tell u that when u discover stuff like : the small club , The Cristal Ball (5CD's), the 1001 different versions of The Ride, the NPGMC, the innumerable aftershows, The War, The Celebrations, etc.
(And I don't even talk about all the stuff that made him a "superstar")
all I can say is that Michael is da bomb ok but da BOMB HOAX...

Peace 2 both of them and 2 All of Us

What is really sad is the fact that this is "Prince.org" and we are discussing Michael Jackson and everything else in the world "unrelated" to Prince. We all reserve the right to our opinions and I like Michael Jackson as well. They both have their greatness in different aspects and it cannot be denied. However, when you log onto a site that is supposed to be dedicated to an artist it is respectful to dedicate the time and energy we have to that artist. Both of those artists have respect for one another as artists and have said so. When I want to know something about Michael, I go to sites dedicated to him. I am here because it's Prince.org and expect to know about Prince. I am not about to go to a fan site for Michael Jackson and start talking about Prince. What's the point? This is so simple until I guess it is hard for some. It's kind of like ice cream. If you don't like strawberry ice cream,you don't eat it, do you? You eat what you like. You don't keep buying it and saying "Damn, I hate strawberry ice cream. Duhhhh!!!! This is Prince.org It's about PRINCE!!!!!

If you want to get Freudian, let me dare take that trip for you. MJ had the perfect foundation to grow up and take on pedophile behavior. He was not allowed a normal childhood. He was abused as a child. His relationships with people were limited and consisted solely of adults. So here we have grown up Michael stuck in a virtual limbo between the longing to be a child and the reality of having to be an adult. It is no wonder, and blatanly obvious, that Michael has a weird obsession with all things kindergarten. He has his own amusement park, toys, and he desperately needs to be around children. MJ has even gone so far as to make the effort in sounding like a little boy. Here we have the perfect psychological background for someone with the mentality that MJ has and the likeliness that he would sexually molest a child.

Whether MJ really did it or not was neither proven or disproven, but his adolescent and age inappropriate behaviour make it more likely to have occurred. Even if MJ was proven innocent, I think many people are still turned off by his unhealthy preoccupation with children.

This of course also leads into the fact that there are other things about MJ which many people dislike. The fact that he bleached his skin, illness or not. There are others with this disease who do not bleach their skin. This is equivalent to having surgery done on a Downs Syndrome child so that they look more normal. I personally think it's wrong and further allows society to be unaccepting of people who are different. I'm pretty convinced that MJ wanted his skin to be white. I'm also pretty convinced he got the surgery done to look like a woman. Perhaps MJ is also gay considering his voice, make up, and so on.

Either way I can't really I say I hate MJ for the aforementioned explanations of his, for lack of a better word, weirdness. Yes I think he's a child molester, yes I think he wanted to look white, yes I think he enjoys looking like a woman, and yes I think he is gay. Yet I don't think he's some demon or evil, he is merely the product of his upbringing, his sad childhood, and everything that was lacking those first years of his life. In some ways I pity him, I wish he would have gotten help before his life spiraled out of control and his career went down the tubes.

I think MJ is a serious musician and artist. He entertains and writes a lot of his own music. Yet I think he had his day in the sun and now it is over. However I am not biased, because I think Prince too had his days of fame and glory. For P though it's more about his own personal, artistic revolution. For MJ it's all about money and the media which is sad because one has to wonder if MJ ever even did it for the music, for the art. MJ has become a commercial whore, cranking out mediocre music at best. Like I said, I don't discriminate because personally, I don't think Rave or Rainbow were anything to write home about either.

My point in all this being, MJ has some serious issues that are painfully obvious to the world. P is more of a streamline mystery, a man who at one time wore tight pants and a bit of eyeliner, but never came close to owning a monkey or being accused of child molestation. Artistically P is all about the music and justice, and for MJ it's all about the business and fame. Both had their hey day, both have good and bad. None is really better than the other when it comes to the tunes, they're on either side of the planet, but if you want to talk about their personal lives, P is not the psychosomatic mess that MJ is.

Hi purple people, the only problem I have with the whole Michael Jackson topic, is the fact that people in general ie - music buying public, music press, DJ's (basically everyone involved in how the music world revolves), seem to accept MJ more as a musician (when really he's not even that), and socially as a normal person. In a nutshell, why does the world seem to accept MJ more so than Prince, I mean MJ has had a pretty dark past, far more darker and weirder than that of Prince's. Lets say there are plenty of skeletons in the Jackson closet. I am not dissing Michael Jackson, I have seen him live, and I have a few of his albums, he demands and deserves respect as an entertainer and singer/dancer. I have also seen Prince Live, 19 times to be exact, and call me biast, but as far as entertaining, singing and dancing goes, MJ does not get a look in, Prince is a pioneer representative of music, musicianship and performing, some people around today that are huge, need to take a few pages out of his book. Ofcourse the whole answer to this worldwide social and musical acceptance thing between the 2 is, everyone knows that the music business and the music press are in play with each other, and because Prince was the only one on earth with the balls to take on the music business, and in my eyes win successfully (he makes more money now than he ever did, more than any other pop star, even jacko), now the music press defend their brother (the music business ie - Warner bros.) and constantly tell lies, writing the most upsurd, hurtful and annoyingly disrespectful bullshit I have ever heard about anyone, I mean people like Britney Spears, Nsynch, Backstreet boys and a variety of girl and boy groups, who are all huge today, and can do no wrong in the worlds eyes, but they don't even have the courtesy to learn an instrument or write a fucking song. But I have faith in Prince, he will bounce back, there is too much talent there for this wonderful man to keep falling, he's in a slump, like that other great heavyweight Mike Tyson (he'll be back too) and the world will once again accept this man for what he is, the worlds supreme live performer/musician. I wonder would the music press turn on Michael Jackson if he went down Prince's road, ofcourse they would, mr squeeky clean wacko would be no more, well lets see what happens next year whenever MJ releases his last album for sony, word is he is non too happy about the way they promoted invincible, it reflects in the massive downturn in sales for invincible, word is that he may go the independant route also, we shall see who is doing all the dissing then. PEACE OUT.

jamesyboy1 said:

Because Michael Jackson has always been more commercial overall than Prince.

Supernova said:

MJ has better PR and is totally willing 2 work 'the system' 2 achieve record sales.

randomduck said:

Exactly. Combine it all and there you have it.

I really dislike it when people still agrue over who's better between these two artists. I bet right now that if Prince himself were in these discussion forums, he'd let you all know that he doesn't even care about whether or not this world likes him more than MJ or not. As long as he knows that he's doing the work of the Lord, he's satified.

Now the question is....When will you all be Simply satified with doing the Work of Jesus Christ?

Supernova said:

good! so can we finally declare this thread dead

Diva - I agree with you. I'm pretty tired of this.

Musically I dig him aside from those drippy, cringey, squeeky ballads.

I don't dig him offstage as a person though, what with telling lies (Fake marriages and fake children?) to his devoted fans and whimpering.

The whole "King Of Pop" neurotic thing is a turn off too.

He seems very paranoid, he once just kept asking Barry Gibb who he thought was better himself or Prince.

It was funny seeing him trying to be ladies man in Rock My World video though, about as convincing as Luther Vandross in his latest.

Let's put this thread to bed folks. There is no "best" there are only opinions. We are free to enjoy whatever music we want to, be that the music of Mr Funky Falsetto In Stilettos or that of Mr Jackson. I prefer Prince and I know that many of you share this preference. For those of you that don't, fine, that's your choice.

Now take your + signs all of you and run along to bed!

On the one!

One is a musical genius and the other is a former black performer, who likes little boys, marrying beards, and betraying friends. There is no comparison.

This thread should end now. There is nothing to argue about.

I liked Michael when he was black. I had the glove and everything. Why he wants to be a white woman I have no idea.

Vitaligo runs in my family. My aunt lost all of her
pigmentation, and my dad has it, they are relatively the same complexion Michael use to be. True you lose your pigament in blotches where you look like a dalamation. I'm telling now...MICHAEL JACKSON DOES NOT OR DID NOT HAVE VITALIGO. You don't go from chocolate brown to light brown to cafe au lait to paste when you have this skin disorder. Your skin doesn't fade with time. You're either one complexion one or the other. If he did have it he would have found makeup to stay his original complexion until he couldn't cover it anymore. So those of you who believe that lie I feel sorry for you. You're easy to fool. Check out the song "Word to the Bad" by Jermaine, he later re-canted his statements about his brother because Michael is supporting him and the rest of the family. Latoya said in an interview that his skin color was due to him first using medications to clear his severe acne then he was given fade creams. That
interview was before she came out against him.

Now I was a Michael fan before and up to Bad. Then he
got boring to me. He has been doing the same shit since
1988. The last fierce thing he did was "Scream" with Janet.
This guy has spent the last 8 years trying to convince the
world he only had one nose job, that he has a skin disease that he does fuck women and not 10 year old white boys, and that he actually sired those caucasian mail-order kids of his. His new lie "He's been a solo artist for 30 years"
Michael wasn't officially a solo artist until "Thriller".
That's @20 years. It really pisses me off about Michael
because he was a great performer. I listen "Off the Wall"
or think about how he was earlier in his career and it makes
me sick what he has become. Now he's a 43 year old slick con man, buying tons a air time on VH1 trying to convince the world that he's still a great artist and a victim, who is the way he is because he never had a childhood. Sorry anyone
who can cheat his "friend" Paul McCartney out of publishing
rights to songs he had nothing to do with and take credit for a dance move he didn't invent is not a sweetheart. Invincible has only made 1 million maybe 2 mil at this point. Last I looked it wasn't in the top twenty.
King of Pop.... more like King of Poop.

LISTEN TO COFFY3!!!

man, this is pathetic... P vs. MJ is like Krispy Kreme vs. month-old meatpie

this shit is tired!

MattyJam, U claim to have the right to be here...fine. But U do not have the right to claim that all of us are bitter Prince fans who diss MJ...U don't know me, or all of us, and I don't know anyone else here...but U obviously need 2 get a life and let the Prince/MJ comparison DIE becuz there is no comparison.
So could u please let us get on w/our lives and enjoy the Prince music w/out the drama of your pathetic whining? I'm sure U don't harass fellow MJ fans w/how bad U think Prince is compared 2 MJ, becuz they could care less...so spare us your need to compare 2 individuals on this site and create a website where U can have them slug it out VIA celebrity deathmatch, or we'll revoke your limited ability to enjoy the funk!!