VioletBlue said:

111 % agree with you VioletBlue, but please is your avatar a picture of you or of Jill Jones?

I like "freaks" that's how you call them...Mj is one big "freak"....Thank God, Prince is one too.....
peace.....

JNoel have you already heard about Fiona Apple lol??? You like "artists", no entertainers, aren't you???

why "lol" ? I like the song Shadowboxer but I don't know her music well, I like honest entertainers & I think that the worst with mj is his "Im normal" attitude he doesn't even assume who he is, I prefer Tito

The girl in the avatar is Fiona Apple, just for your info.
You prefer Tito, I can see clearly now....lol.

Plastic sucks he is The Man In The Mirror. Like everyone
I was into Plastic I stopped after Off The Wall.
I didn't like the lie he was using that he loves children
so much that the only way he could get little boys near
him so he could get his cheap frills. He used his dance
moves and his Neverland home to get the boys. He
can't produce his own songs and hasn't come up with new
moves. You just can't compare Plastic to Prince.
Prince is more focus and proud to be black, He does
everything to his music. I'm glad I stayed with Prince.

I feel sorry for Plastic's son who is at the age to
be abuse!!!

I have a sextape of tito with fiona it's....!!!!!

Firstly, to clear up some of the wicked accusations, Michael suffers from vitiligo, an illness which members of my family carry and have suffered from. Pictures exist and I've seen them online myself, which display Michael's blotchy patches, on his chest and on his arms. To ridicule one of a misfortune merely reflects you as part of the very ugly natured society we live in.

The allegations are blatant fraude. Anybody who believes to the contary is forming their opinions on what they've read from The National Enquirer and such garbage. How many of the naysayers have read GQ's 'Was Michael Jackson Framed'? It provides solid EVIDENCE of the guys innocence. It's availible to read online. You don't obtain the right to judge his character without knowing the facts.

As for the tired 'Prince is an artist, Michael's an entertainer' arguement, I'd like to point out one thing: Michael's been writing music for longer than Prince. He's been writing, producing, arranging, composing AND performing (check the credits if you don't believe me) for years now. Many of his finest tracks are ones written and produced solely by Michael (Who Is It, Morphine, Speechless, Earth Song, They Don't Care About Us etc). Listen to the Billie Jean demo MJ recorded at his family home, way before Quincy had touched it, it was MICHAEL who came up with those killer rifts, it was MICHAEL who composed the melodies and the strings... QJ's role on production credits was very minimal. Michael is certainly no artist of his producers, especially considering a lot of his work, he's the only producer.

You criticise his lack of output, but at that's where Prince falls short. Half of Prince's albums are killer and the other halves are filler (Emancipation, Diamonds & Pearls, TRC and even tracks on Lovesexy and 1999). If Prince spent longer on each disc, and stopped padding out the albums with so much non-distinct, forgettable jamming sessions then he'd be a much more significant artist. Thank heavens for the CD, so you don't have to wade your way through the likes of Let's Have A Baby, Mr Happy, Sha La La La La Means I Love U and Sex In The Summer to get to the real gems like In This Bed I Scream, My Computer, The Love We Make and Soul Sanctuary. Michael's output is no less wealthy than Prince's. He's notorious for writing hundreds of tracks for each album and selecting the best by a process of elimination. And it shows, as his albums are always cohesive, and always have a little something for everyone's musical tastes, which is why people still buy and care about his music, unlike Prince, who narrowly markets himself to one demographic.

Mattyjam: in a few minutes you'll be trashed...

Sex In The Summer is a great underrated song IMO, & me like "let's have a baby" . Anyway your last post is a fairy tale

I ain't defending him, but the vitiligo thing can be very true. I read about cases at online medical/dermatology sites. There r such cases where if a person has vitilgo on more than 50% of their body they have the option of bleaching out the remaining pigmentation of their skin 2 match what the vitiligo has done 2 them. I can't remember the name of the medication but it's hard 2 get.

I couldn't care less. Am I supposed to feel threatened because I think the seven solo MJ CD's withold more talent than my entire 20-odd CD Prince back catalogue?

Prince doesn't have the voice or the grace of Michael. They are by far my two favourite artists and are without a doubt a cut above the rest. But you can teach anybody to play an instrument, you can't teach anybody to sing with the God-given voice Michael was blessed with, or to dance with the sheer energy and innovation of his movement.

"And it shows, as his albums (...) always have a little something for everyone's musical tastes"
maybe but not for me hehe
Sheryl Crow was his chorist right? hummmmm Sheryl

MattyJam said:

MattyJam are you masochist or really stupid ?

MattyJam said:

Ah-HA!!...thought I had heard this drek before..lol..I remember who this is now...the same person who said that "if you want to hear rich, complex production, play "Unbreakable"..", or some silly shit...Micheal's singing can't EVEN touch Prince's, because Micheal's unable to emote anywhere NEAR as many styles, mannerisms, emotions, and attitudes as Prince can...Michael's singing is SO fucking unconvincing on lovesongs it's embarrassing...he USED to be able to push his vocals in all sorts of different directions, but he either can no longer do it or he's convinced that the two modes he incorporates now--perfect, shiny notes or immature grunts--are what's best on EVERY fucking song he puts out...and you wanna talk filler??...who the HELL wants to wait 4 years just to hear "I Can't Stop Loving You"???...lol...

Face it, Prince can crank out generic r&b crap like the song "invincible" in his sleep...he doesn't need to hire 27 producers and take 11 years to put that slop out on CD...hell, look at NPS, that is 90% twaddle, but Prince put that puppy out in about 3 months, tops..lol...then moved on, which is what a REAL artist would do...

MAMASAYMAMASAHMAMAKOOSA

Okay. First of all, I'm sure this disease exists. THAT I'm not disputing. What I do believe is that after his numerous bleaching sessions and face-lifts, Peter Pan got his people at Nevernever Land to find an excuse for his glow-in-the-dark flesh. And fortunately for Placko Jacko, such a disease existed...

I'm not even touching the child abuse issue as that would open a whole can of worms...

As for the music, Michael, as I said, has a great voice. I recently had MJ cravings (for some unknown reason!) and listened to his old stuff practically on loop for about 2 days! However, these days his music is empty...there's nothing in between the beats. Unfortunately his sound has become as plastic as his face.

If you find him invincible and if he is rocking your world then good for you. But please don't bother coming to a Prince site with your belligerent attitude and silly comments looking for an argument. Especially when you know you have no chance of winning.

On the one.

Michael Jackson.....twinkle twinkle little star

Prince.....SUPERNOVA

Not 2 Diss MJ but Prince COMPOSES his own Music & Plays "ALL" of his own Instrements. MJ doesn't do that the Last time I check but the (Light Skinned) Brother can Dance his A** Off!!!

Right. Here's my opinion on the subject. Michael is fucking excellent. He's going off on one a bit, but all megastars do eventually. Prince is... better. Prince is an honest musician. He is probably the most talented man in music today. Wait, scratch that, he IS. If this world were fair and right, Prince would be remembered like Mozart is. And Michael will be remembered... like... erm, I dunno. Elvis is.

If Mike had this disease, Matty, he would have PINKISH blots over most of the body. Hands,face,upper back. Not pasty white skin like a ghost covering his entire body. If a person of color burns his skin it will form a scab like any other, and if the scab is peeled it would leave a pink spot beneath it. Not a pasty white spot. I am sorry to hear of your family's condition however you may wont to take closer notice. Further more I remember having this Mike/Prince argument in third grade. I am now twenty and six( plus 3 months for perfect ovulation of the female egg and 9 months in the wound) and I dont see the need for such a argument. However since most Libra's love a good debate! How about this analogy, Mike is famous for video's more than he is for a paticular sound or music. You can not think of one song from thriller without thinking of the video. I personaly like the songs inbetween that people dont talk about(P.Y.T/Lady in my Life). Further more you will have a hard time dancing to Mike's music and not dancing like him. Thats because his music is composed around the stop/start kind of sound that is popular with bands like NSYNCH and Britny today.(for choreography and video's). So if anything Mike has taken away from music over the years by making the video and dance more popular than the composition itself. Think about it.

Oh yeah, as far as the Mike has been writing songs longer than Prince thing. How about this, Prince wrote his first song at age seven! called "funk machine"!And has been writing his OWN songs ever since. By the time he was twelve he was already learned in several instruments making him a true musical prodigy.

I don't like MJ's music full stop!

I hate to say this,guy and I don't wanna break your heart telling so but I'm as respectfull for MJ as I am for Britney Spears. For them, music is just a way to sell. Do not search on their records any kind of creativity, artistic risk or musical freedom. They want to work with the most in-vogue producers of the moment, they're ready to sing any kind of shit just to hit your radio and they just don't care about anything else but your money. I fuck michael jackson. The way he loves his life is just a sign of the times. He can fuck children because his pockets are full of dollars, he can be a father for 2 kids (or future victims for sexual games) for the same reason. God bless America, home of the brave like prince sang on day of wild.

Elodie said:

I will say this much for MJ and Prince. They are good at what they do but I prefer Prince. He can do everything Michael Jackson does and do it better. And if you compare The Rainbow Children to Invincible, The Rainbow Children wins hands down. It doesn't make me hate MJ any but I prefer Funk over Pop.

Any so-called 'Prince fan' who uses the paedophile rhetoric against Jackson is a vile insult to the rest of us for whom Prince's music inspires us to rise above that sort of conduct.

By all means let's compare the two as artists but leave the paedophile/skin thing out of it; both allegations have little foundation and are only deeply sad reminders of the depths to which public opinion and the media can sink to.

Yes, MJ and Prince are totally different, but as far as pure talent I believe Prince outrates everyone that has EVER walked this Earth. YES, I SAID IT!! EVER!! Combine everything (singing, dancing, instruments, composing, performing) I don't think anyone can touch Prince.

I challenge anyone to name one person.

And the frist person to say Elvis or John Lennon
can suck it.

MattyJam said:

I'd figure I would "paste" my views from my topic in another section here..

but first a person Prince.. answering questions from reporters in a "cryptic" way is weird.. BUT I feel a mid 40's guy who plays with 13 year old boys.. AND was UP ON CHILD RAPE Charges, Is allot stronger then the word "weird"??

* This is THE ONLY TIME I will give my views on this NO TALENT Michael Jackson.. "The King of POOP"

Here we go again??? People "thinking" MJ is a "musican"..or has ANY musical talent?? I really feel sorry for people who believe in "the media" controled hype of a MJ.. SO I will not go into a ton of detail.. because I DON'T want to ruin your point of view or you childhood of WHAt YOU THOUGHT OF MJ all through the 1980's..

because IF I told you the truth.. which you won't believe.. because "you MJ fans have blinders on".. rose colored glasses.. But here a re a few quick examples.. SO YOU guys Might have to take off the blinders & rose colored glasses..

BECAUSE a guy who:

*having the "new" producer of the moment Create EVERYTHING you hear ... and ALL you (MJ) does is come in and Lay your Vocal 7 Different ways.. and the producer makes sense of all of it..DOESN'T make you a Muscian. or Talented... WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT $30 MILLION DOLLARS.. IS FOR?? If YOU have the vision or talent to produce something "The Public" wants to hear.. IT doesn't cost $30 Million?? DUH!?

Quincy Jones JUST said on Charlie Rose (Interview show).. That MJ ONLY "helped" with 2 songs on THRILLER..& NO SONGS on OFF THE WALL( he made this point very clear because he made a bigg deal that MJ WROTE the whole BAD Album)

*having in 1994ish in you MTV comeback with slash playing guitar.. "an APPLAUSE Track" ( a pre -recorded track played of people clapping..) while and after you "perform" to a Pre-recored vocal track.. HOW SAD IS IT THAT MJ WANTS TO FOOL THE PUBLIC.. when they don't like him ( MTV reported on this after the MTV Awards about the vocal/clapping track)

**SORRY to ruin his Peak.. HE NEVER even invented "The Moonwalk" he "introduce" it to The White Suburban Public in 1983 ish for Motown 25... BUT on Soul Train a group called ELECTRIC BOOGALOO in 1979!!!!! SO How is MJ a genius for RIPPING OFF This group?? They did "The Moonwalk" ATLEAST 4 years BEFORE MJ?? He created NOTHING.. but takes credit?? ( watch soul train 25 anniversary hall of fame special..THEY show a clip of this group and the year when they performed "the moonwalk" & INVENTED IT .. NOT MJ

* NEVER singing LIVE anywhere.. ANYWHERE in OVER 20 years??? HOW are you a musican?? TURN YOUR MIC ON??? ( he even lip syncs his Ballads)

* AWARDS.. mean NOTHING this is sooooo obvious now.. THIs is Only a TOOL or a "Info-mmercial" for the Record Company to promote "thier" crap.. Fans to vote?? and they have a NEW Award Show every other week it seems.. I think MJ's whole career now is showing up for "phoney" awards.. LIKE PRINCE said "people are saying the best ever, well why don't we all get on stage and prove it"?? MJ won't.. because he NEVERS sings LIVE..& ONLY Performs DANCE MOVES that are 15 years old..HOW can The Rock N Roll Hall of fame induct him .. a guy WHO NEVER sings anywhere LIVE?? The ONLY Differance between Milli Vinilli is MJ sang ONCE LIVE to record the album.. BUT every performs IS Lip Synced.

*Instruments.. NO he doesn't play any.. BECAUSE if he did.. With MJ's EGO.. he would show this off!! DUH?? I watched a whole 3 HOUR concert & MJ NOT ONCE Picked up a instrument!! This concert was sooooo boring.. all he did was RE-HASH the SAME dance moves from 1970-1984.. and at ONE Point.. while a Girl was Playing Guitar.. MJ stood next to her and "played AIR GUITAR".. next to her ????

*IF YOU were charged with raping a child would you want to clear your name to the public??

or

was there something else that might have came out.. you didn't want the courts, fans,news,public hear!??

EVEN kids that said he did nothing to them.. said he slept in the same bed with him.. THE SAME BED??? this guy has a mansion that must have atleast 10 bedrooms.. (this was on CNN and these 2 kids were on his side brought out to the public by micheal jackson's camp)?

HIS WIFE on Primetime live even said.. when he goes to the bathroom they run in there after him??? ...OK not as a sex thing.. BUT wouldn't a NORMAL adult say "hey.. wait out here! let me go to the bathroom in peace!???" ( MJ just sat there on Primetime Live when she said this and didn't correct her.. his wife ).. so it must have been true.

he had Emaul Lewis as a "date" at an award show.. he sat on his lap??? ok yes he did bring his "beard" Brooke Shields.. but why would you have webster sit on your lap... THIS is the biggest star at the time 1985ish... HE could get another seat at the award show for his other guest... HE didn't have to have Emaul SIT on his LAP???

HE is getting some sort of pleasure out of ALL of this????..

***HE did something enough to PAY a family off not to bring charges in court.. and the charges he was being accused of was RAPE...of a child

***BUT when you have a BILLION DOLLAR Company behind you.. and they think thay can squeeze/make another couple more Million out of your "musical talent"... then you will hear PR how MJ didn't do it.. or anything.. That company can gets MJ on MTV,VH1,Primetime Live,Every Music/Entertainment Magazine.. "explaining" how he didn't do anything.

and finally his Face:.. YES he did change his "skin tone" to a lighter shade to "compete" in his wachy mind with prince.. MJ's face and his IDEAS for it has changed many times..

1) he lighten to compete with Prince
2) at the sametime he reconstructed it to look like Diana Ross...La Toya Jackson

3) then in the 1990's because HIS SISTER janet started taking over.. MJ started to change his face into the Cover of "the Janet" Album from 1993..

4)Did anyone notice MJ's "new" thing he did to his face:
*He put a Plastic or Rubber Strip under the skin ABOVE his upper lip.. so if you notice in the CBS Concert.. YOU NEVER SEE HIS FRONT TEETH?? He can't smile anymore..He tried to cover it with his hand when he was Lip Sync/Singing.. You really see this when at the end of the Show when he hugs Chris Tucker & Usher.. he smiles and his upper lip doesn't move or go up?

NO JOKE... I really think he is trying to LOOK like one of the people from WHO-VILLE... from the Jim Carey movie The Grinch..


~ Micheal Jackson is EVERYTHING wrong with The Music Industry..& The Entertainment Field.. Because everything you see is FAKE.. and run with "smoke and mirrors"..nothing is real..

The Record Companies run everything with smoke and mirrors:
they pay:
The radio to play music
MTV,VH1 to play the artist they want to push
give YOU "phoney" awards
the magazines are all run under different music companies.. (they are all owned by 1 or 2 companies now a days)


and IF YOU are NOT giving the Music Industry ownership of you Master Recordings.. they will NOT give you all the things I just listed..

*EVERY Major Artist ONLY make about 56 cents per album sale ( now a CD cost $18.95).. The artist only make 56 cents per!! plus doesn't own the rights to any money on those songs in the future!!

when you agree to all of this ANYONE will have a "Hit" Album.

100% Truth

Thats why Micheal Jackson is $200 Million in debt right NOW!
John Lennon only had $2 million to his name (after all those hits?)
Elvis only had under $1 million before he died

Most artist don't have shit..

MJ is $200 Million in debt BECAUSE his Albums cost $30million.. and Cost another $50 Million to Promote.. MJ DOESN'T see one dime UNTIL The Record Company makes back there investment which is ($80 Million + )

The ONLY Reason MJ is in Music still is because of EGO..

it can't be for the money... its for BRAINWASHING the public on his pretend "legacy".

*The guy was good as a kid.. had 2 nice solo albums.. and thats it.. EVERYTHING else is "trying" to re-create "the thiller time period" which NO one ever can.. it is a time period.. GROW as an artist.. if you were "an artist".. which he is not..

* IF you notice ALL the "real strange behavior" happened AFTER he bunred his head in the pepsi commerical..

I take some of that back.. HE DID have "Webster" on his Lap as "his date" at an Award Show before that?..

Pathetic. Just pathetic.