Of old school youngins?

People who love soul oldies and get hooked on them, even though we are teens - early 20's?

Well I'm 28 (a YOUNG 28..LOL) but I do feel anyone younger than 20 with an 'old school' soul will be more few and far between...I think many of us were still around when music was music (mid-late 80's/early 90's) and brought up with a true appreciation of our musical past. Unfortunately...most music is not interesting or exciting anymore...so we end up going back to our old favorites and not only reliving memories but creating new ones as well...and eager to educate our youngsters on what true music is...

I think there are only a select few people of the past that get the proper respect they deserve. I'm really surprised when I talk about certain music with my friends and they simply don't remember it or have never heard of it. I love it when I get them into different artists though Someone has got to be representing.

Pais, we are not the end but just the beginning. Educate the young.

hell no...

my niece and nephew dig it!!..


Dig?

Well - I'll say this about that.

Do you notice how FEW music sites have a FUNK genre? It's blended in with RnB/Soul or Hip Hop or Jazz or who knows what.

Where's the respect?

Well, that's why shows like "I Love the 70's" and "I Love the 80's" are so popular. So much great stuff happened in those days. I miss the 70's but I really miss the 80's. They were awesome times, where so much new shit was introduced to us. Now we're living in a time where everything's already been done and things are just being recycled. There will never be a "We Love The 90's" show, cuz the 90's sucked. And how could it possibly get any better? Decades from now we may all be dying from boredom.

EvilWhiteMale said:

there will to be one!

well, i think if we teach children what real music by real musicians sound like, they will become more open minded about music.and not being brainwashed and sucked into the pop garbage thats assaulting children's minds now.

All uv u guys are Dead On It. Slave I really liked ur comment on educating the young. I think without me my cousins wouldnt have even knwon who Michael Jackson, Prince, Madonna, or even The Time or Rick James was, lol. My little brother who is 7 still says, "Isaiah u still like Prince Michael Jackson!!??" cute.

WickedDay said:

And what will they remember so fondly besides Monica getting a cigar rammed up her snatch?

EvilWhiteMale said:

Soundgarden
Nirvana
Jane's Addiction
Chili Peppers
Pearl Jam
Dave Matthews
NIN
Tool
Black Crowes
Depeche Mode
Jamiraquai
School of Fish
Kings X

And on and on and on.

I remember that in 1993 people were wondering what the 80's had to contribute to popular music; saying it was ALL crap.

Ditto to 1983 when folks were saying all the 70's contributed was Disco... it's hard to look back at a decade when you're not that far from it.

WickedDay said:

Oh there have already been those in the UK. I stopped watching after 1992. I caught a bit of the 1999 one and it seemd so stupid having celebrities pretending to be nostalgic about Britney Spears and *spits* Ricky Martin.

I taped ALL 20 of the 70s and 80s one though.

otan said:

Yeah, the alternative scene was awesome. But how many episodes of "I Love the 90's can you do about that?

VANITYSprisonBYTCH said:

I feel the same way. I'm in my early 30's, but I've apparently surprised some who are 10 years or older with my knowledge and interest in music that was either before my time or prior to my teens. In my past life I prolly would have felt at home in the late 60's-md 70's as a teen or young adult. I feel nostalgic all the time, that's when you know you are getting old. hahaha!
Nothing annoys me more is when some, not all, but some young people think that what they hear today is new. Lack of education definitely. I make it a game to identify which songs were sampled or remade. Yet it is also a shame that there is very little to no type of originality in musicianship. It doesn't have to be some revolutionarily new style that needs to come, but just something that would give all popular genres a swift kick in the behind.

To answer your question, some of us thirtysomethings were saying the same thing when we were teens and twentysomethings. Good music will always find a home. Consider classical music; it's had audiences for centuries. So will jazz. So will the best of soul/r&b from any decade.

The funny thing is, Orgers in 2013 will be saying the same thing about the 90's music (D'Angelo, Maxwell, Jill Scott, etc.).

EvilWhiteMale said:

Well there's the one where your buddy is tryin to kick horse and debating whether to pawn his stereo for more X or a new pair of Docs...

Nah, I won't like that episode.

EvilWhiteMale said:

The '90s were many things to many people. It may have been sh*t to you, but different for other kids. I grew up in the 90s and I agree there was a lot of wack ish (like Puff Daddy and the rise of materalistic rap) but there was also a lot of new and exciting things.

I think the 90s was a natural response to the excessiveness of the past two decades (the 70s and the 80s). In the 70s, people lived hedonistically (living for the disco, drugs, etc., the 80s was all about excess and materalism triggered by Reganomics and the 90s was just a response to all that stuff. It was the aftermath and out of it emerged a vibrant culture.

Musically, Hip hop was in its intellectual/spiritual heights with groups like Brand Nubian, Queen La's Black Reign, Poor Righteous Teachers, Digable Planets, Fugees, Leaders of the New School, Ultramag MCs, Main Source, etc. -- I call it Second Wave Consciousness Hip Hop. Nas (back when he was "Illmatic") emerged, so did Common, and other kids. I loved Pete Rock & CL Smooth and Soulz of Mischief. The underground scene became more prominent in hip hop as well and the California underground was producing stars like J5, Dialated Peoples, Self-Scientific, etc. Of course, we all know the story about materalistic rap a la Puff Daddy that would surface in the mid- to late-90s, but I was digging hip hop in the 90s. I miss the jazzy throwback beats of the period and the hard hitting hip hop of the East and selected kids out West.

In the media, I loved a lot of the TV shows that came out in the 90s like Herman's Head, South Central, Roc, etc. Plus, the cartoon shows were good (that's a thing of the past nowadays). The 90s had its share of toys. You had video game systems being introduced like Super NES, Genesis, Playstation, etc.

Filmwise, there were a lot of cult classics in the 90s such as movies like Singles, Dazed and Confused, Friday, Juice, etc.

Fashion was doing it's thing in the 90s. You had the grunge look (plaid shirts, faded jeans, scraggly look), hip hop took over the mainstream (baggy pants became the norm -- and it's still the norm, athletic shoes, etc.)

I'll just list some random stuff that pops into my head about the 90s:

-Eye-patch condoms (a la TLC)
-Technocolor T-shirts (shirts that change color when u touch them)
-The rise of the internet
-Cross Colours
-Used Jeans
-LA Gear boots
-Reebok Pumps
-Polka Dots
-70s revival in the early 90s (w/bellbottoms and Deee-Lite's Groove Is In The Heart)
-Pogs
-The rise of Rave culture
-The rise of drum n bass, jungle music
-Trip Hop
-Seattle's music scene was making noise (Pearl Jam, Nirvana, etc.)
-REM was making incredible music
-Green Day was making noise
-Neo-Soul was blossoming (a la Meshell Ndegeocello, D'Angelo, Angie Stone... and I dare say Jamiroquai)
-Acid House and Acid Jazz
-The rise and decline of preppy/nautical fashions in the inner cities (a la Tommy Hilfiger, Nautica, Polo, etc.)
-The sampling craze of 1997-1998 (mostly every pop hit was a re-hash of a 70s or 80s hit)
-Janet's infamous Rolling Stone cover and the mega hit "janet." album
-90210
-The Third Wave Ska boom of 1998
-Swing music came back in style in 98
-The Latin Explosion of 99 (Ricky Martin, J.Lo, Marc Anthony)
-The death of Selena
-The deah of Eazy E
-R&B clenched a tight grip on the mainstream market (Brandy, Monica, Aaliyah and other one-named singers ruled the charts - most notable Brandy's The Boy Is Mine)
-The resurgence of bubble gum pop music and TRL (re-sparked by the Spice Girls runaway hit "Wannabe" and later cemented by Backstreet Boys, NSYNC, Britney, yadda yadda)
-The last stand of the "Ballad" - the 90s were the last time that ballads ruled the charts (e.g. Whitney "I Will Always Love U", Boyz II Men "End Of the Road", Celine "My Heart Will Go on", it seemed like every hit was a ballad)
-Kurt Cobaine and grunge music
-Gangsta rap and West Coast rap overtakes hip hop and east coast in commercial acceptance
-The East Coast vs. West Coast thing
-Tupac & Biggie murders
...there's more....
[This message was edited Tue Oct 28 15:53:05 PST 2003 by JANFAN4L]

JANFAN4L said:

EWM, you're breakin' it down! 80s = while 90s =

But of course.

I think music speaks to certain generations because they were around and conscious of what was going on when that music was produced. This is why not too many people identify with classical music these days because, great as it is, it speaks of a bygone era that will never be around again. Jazz has gotten that way and a lot of the soul and funk is getting there too. It doens't mean it's bad music, it just means that the kids who are buying records today don't identify with it, or just plain don't know it exists.

In the case of soul and funk, kids ARE listening to it, but in the form of hip hop. I never realized how much Snoop and Dre sampled from Parliament until I bought a P-Funk album. So in the case of soul and funk, they're listening to it, they just don't KNOW they're listening to it. Most kids probably don't know that Jay-Z sampled "If I Was Your Girlfriend" for that "Me and My Girlfriend" song, but I'm sure that if they heard the Prince track, they'd B able 2 identify it.

As far as music goes,here's my take...


The 70s rule

The first half of the 80s was great

The 90s suck

DavidEye said:

Co-sign. LOL!

alexnvrmnd said:

HEY!

THAT'S MY CATCH-AVATAR AND I WANT IT BACK!!!

alexnvrmnd said:

Oh you people. In 10 years you're going to be wearing MC Hammer pants to halloween parties and raving about how the late 80's were the shizzle - you can't touch this!

There's Young MC with Bust a Move. There's Deee Lite with Groove is in the Heart. There's P.M. Dawn, KRS one, Public Enemy, there's a TON of classic music in the late 80's, but the clear channel just hasn't figured out how to market it as nostalgia yet.

I'm convinced that this musical nostalgia started with American Pie and Happy Days, (late 70's nostalgic for the mid 50s, that's what, 25 years?) and then in the mid 80's, there was the "new" hippie thing - re-doing woodstock, summer of love, which puts the span at 70-85. 15 years. And then there was that 80's show in mid 90's, a span of 10 years. In 5 years, we're going to be watching a show that's nostalgic about last month. And in 10 years, we're going to be celebrating the celebration we're celebrating because those were some good times.

EDIT:
VH1's "Those were good times 10 minutes ago!"
[This message was edited Thu Oct 30 13:08:21 PST 2003 by otan]

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Oh you people. In 10 years you're going to be wearing MC Hammer pants to halloween parties and raving about how the late 80's were the shizzle - you can't touch this!


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I'm ALREADY wearing Hammer pants so I'm ahead of all of you! And in another 2 or 3 years, I'm gonna grow my hair long and pull out all the old flannels so when Grunge comes back, I can say, "Eh, I been wearing that shit for YEARS!" Lol!

Yep. I just turned 24 last Monday, but my CD book has more old school music than new. It's just a fellin' you get when you can hear the passion in the lyrics them cats wrote back in the day. Now everything is just starting to sound alike.

We're just getting old, folks.