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TrivialPursuit

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Madonna - Madame X (now streaming on Paramount+)

Anyone watch it yet?

I'm 34 minutes into it, and I'm a little bored. Not 100%, but ... I suppose the one thing that irritates me about her is how fucking contrived some things are with her shows. I get she's being artsy, provocative, whatever. But goddamn it, can we get a fucking song?!

I'm a longtime, hardcore fan of M's, just like I am with Janet, MJ, and Prince. But honestly, I'm surprised she's not had a colonoscopy on stage at this point. She's literally on her knees, fanning her pussy and talking about her pussy and talking about masturbating.

I guess I just don't understand the show. Yet.


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Reply #1 posted 10/08/21 11:41am

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Imma watch tonight, should be fun to relive the show 2 years ago.

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I cheated and listened to some of the "Music from the theater xperience".... eek it was different then I remember thats for sure.

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Reply #2 posted 10/08/21 4:28pm

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The live album is enjoyable, though most of the Madame X songs are very similar to the studio versions and this is accentuated by the electronic vocal effects, which make it sound less live. It definitely has some highlights though and is a cohesive listening experience.

I've yet to see the documentary, but am keen to see the visual performances and imagery and assess it as a whole.


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Reply #3 posted 10/08/21 4:37pm

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I love the madame x album, her best work in years. Was just playing it while cooking yesterday, though I don’t agree with her recent behaviour and plastic surgeries. I deleted her off Instagram as well cause she was so distracting though she’s in my top 5 all time favourites
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Reply #4 posted 10/08/21 4:59pm

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OperatingThetan said:

The live album is enjoyable, though most of the Madame X songs are very similar to the studio versions and this is accentuated by the electronic vocal effects, which make it sound less live. It definitely has some highlights though and is a cohesive listening experience.

I've yet to see the documentary, but am keen to see the visual performances and imagery and assess it as a whole.


I’m enjoying the live album on Spotify.Sounds good.

Hopefully I’ll get to see the documentary soon.I wish they would just release it on DVD or blu-Ray now.I hate having to search for it or subscribe to some channel just to watch something.I’m old school…I want the physical copy! biggrin
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Reply #5 posted 10/08/21 8:48pm

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Rumor is she might go live on Facebook at midnight.
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I watched her on Jimmy Fallon and she was silly and fun, she can be unpredictable.
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The show is really fun and creative! Definitely different from the theater show in an interesting way. My favorite part was Extreme Occident with all the spinning around and the colorful, energetic Come Alive.
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Reply #6 posted 10/08/21 9:19pm

SoulAlive

“Artists are here to disturb the peace” lol

I saw her on Jimmy Fallon last night.She was funny.Interesting to hear about the movie roles that she turned down.She turned down ‘The Matrix’ eek what the hell was she thinking?! Lol

I know she gets slot of criticism for her antics,but I’m glad that she’s having fun in her life and still doing what the hell she wants.
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Reply #7 posted 10/08/21 9:31pm

alphastreet

SoulAlive said:

“Artists are here to disturb the peace” lol

I saw her on Jimmy Fallon last night.She was funny.Interesting to hear about the movie roles that she turned down.She turned down ‘The Matrix’ eek what the hell was she thinking?! Lol

I know she gets slot of criticism for her antics,but I’m glad that she’s having fun in her life and still doing what the hell she wants.


She seemed more together and relatable in her early 40s, miss that Madonna. Just my opinion
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Reply #8 posted 10/08/21 10:14pm

SoulAlive

to those of you who saw the documentary….

How is the performance of “Killers Who Are Partying”? Despite its dumb title,that song became a favorite of mine.
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Reply #9 posted 10/09/21 2:09pm

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Jon Batiste, Madonna

On Friday night in New York City, Madonna, joined by Jon Batiste, his band and a small group of fans, gave an intimate cabaret performance in the basement of Marcus Samuelsson’s restaurant Red Rooster, before spilling out into the Harlem streets for a 2 a.m. parade set to “Like a Prayer.”

The midnight cabaret turned New Orleans-style street party rang in Friday’s release of “Madame X,” a documentary concert film of Madonna’s 2019 tour, released by Paramount Plus. (See video excerpts from the performance and parade, below.)

“Obviously, Madame X has been born,” Madonna said to the basement crowd, dressed in a black cocktail dress, lace gloves and long blonde wig. “She was always here. She’s always been by your side, encouraging you, pushing you, inspiring you, I hope.”

Taking the stage in the dimly lit supper club just after 1:40 a.m., Madonna, who laid on top of Batiste’s piano like Marilyn Monroe and climbed up the basements’ columns to grind up and down the wall, sang lounge renditions of “Dark Ballet,” “La Isla Bonita” and the Portuguese “Saudade.”

“Do you feel like something is missing from your life?” she asked the crowd, softly into the microphone while Batiste played beneath her. “So, what’s our job? What’s our destiny? To go out and find it,” she said. “I was talking to Jon on the way here, and we said to each other: Here’s the big question: How bad do you want it?”

The evening was almost impossibly intimate, attended by a crowd that looked to be about 100-200 friends, family and fans, who sank into the club’s plush banquets awaiting her arrival.

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During the performance, after falling to her knees in a contemplative adaptation of “Like a Prayer,” Madonna grabbed a nearby megaphone, gestured to the musicians to pick up their instruments, and told the crowd to take to the streets. Obliging blindly, the partygoers climbed up the basement stairs — propelled by the rhythm of Batiste’s band and the sheer thrill of unpredictability — and filed onto 126th street.

Tambourine in hand, Madonna led Batiste and a modest group of the party’s attendees through the early-morning streets of Harlem, joining together as the group sang an anthemic “Like a Prayer” into the night sky.

Traveling a few blocks down the street, the congregation ended outside a nearby church, where Madonna, framed by the ecclesiastical doors behind her, offered an invocation. “The Lord is with all of us,” she said. “Sometimes you just have to say a prayer.

At Red Rooster, where most partygoers returned after Madonna’s streetside sermon ended, the room grooved far into the morning, voguing down the dance floor as the open vodka bar continued to flow. Nearby, joined by queer icons like Aquaria, the Queen of Pop sank into the same plush banquets and watched from afar as the room danced,high and carried away.

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Reply #10 posted 10/09/21 7:11pm

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SoulAlive said:

to those of you who saw the documentary….

How is the performance of “Killers Who Are Partying”? Despite its dumb title,that song became a favorite of mine.


Yes I also love that song!
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Reply #11 posted 10/09/21 9:04pm

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the 'Madame X' live album

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Reply #12 posted 10/09/21 9:07pm

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Reply #13 posted 10/10/21 12:42pm

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Not watched it yet but listened to the first few tracks on the live album. I enjoyed the show when I saw it in London so looking forward to seeing it again. She is a bit heavy handed these days with her messages. I miss her subtlety. She also seems more willing to lose control these days. Her appearance on Fallon proved that. She didn’t seem self conscious at all and just went with it. I do t always like things she does these days, but I didn’t always like some of the things Prince did later in his career. I just hope she’s happy and enjoying her hard earned success at last.
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Reply #14 posted 10/10/21 1:52pm

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Wow she looks so pretty here
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Reply #15 posted 10/10/21 4:22pm

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rlittler81 said:

Not watched it yet but listened to the first few tracks on the live album. I enjoyed the show when I saw it in London so looking forward to seeing it again. She is a bit heavy handed these days with her messages. I miss her subtlety. She also seems more willing to lose control these days. Her appearance on Fallon proved that. She didn’t seem self conscious at all and just went with it. I do t always like things she does these days, but I didn’t always like some of the things Prince did later in his career. I just hope she’s happy and enjoying her hard earned success at last.

Gandorb said:Interesting comments, but I completely was unaware that she had a subtle phase. Perhaps she had periods of being less affected than she comes across now, but she always was over the top.

[Edited 10/11/21 7:45am]

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Reply #16 posted 10/11/21 6:37am

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Past enjoying some of her songs I have found that as a person, or persona I should probably say, I don't really like her. I'm curious about the documentary but recognize that it likely would not go over well for me.
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Reply #17 posted 10/11/21 7:06am

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SoulAlive said:

“Artists are here to disturb the peace” lol

I saw her on Jimmy Fallon last night.She was funny.Interesting to hear about the movie roles that she turned down.She turned down ‘The Matrix’ eek what the hell was she thinking?! Lol

I know she gets slot of criticism for her antics,but I’m glad that she’s having fun in her life and still doing what the hell she wants.


Regarding her turning down the Matrix, all I can say is "thank fuck for that". I am a huge fan of her 80s output but that woman can't act.
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Reply #18 posted 10/11/21 7:46am

26ten

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SoulAlive said:

“Artists are here to disturb the peace” lol

I saw her on Jimmy Fallon last night.She was funny.Interesting to hear about the movie roles that she turned down.She turned down ‘The Matrix’ eek what the hell was she thinking?! Lol

I know she gets slot of criticism for her antics,but I’m glad that she’s having fun in her life and still doing what the hell she wants.


Regarding her turning down the Matrix, all I can say is "thank fuck for that". I am a huge fan of her 80s output but that woman can't act.


I have to agree. Hugely relieved about that. Had she been in it though I don't doubt it'd be a very different trilogy. I bet they'd be unable to get her in all three. Maybe could have stopped at just the one? Hmm.
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Reply #19 posted 10/11/21 9:48am

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34 minutes out of two hours you reviewed and posted it already?

What did you think after at least?

I thought the show was great and was interesting to see her so candid and free. She should really do this more often with these small stand up comedy bits where she is talking ish to everyone. Really cool. Loved the ongoing theme about gun violence and her tribute to native themes and cultures.

As well, sprinkling some hits here and there was good to keep people unfimiliar with the album (like my boyfriend interested in the show of which he even enjoyed only being a casual fan). The Frozen sequence with her daughter was beautifully captured in its full glory unedited.
Last, the part where she sat down with David Chapelle and just let him talk was awesome!

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Reply #20 posted 10/11/21 11:40am

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paisleypark4 said:

34 minutes out of two hours you reviewed and posted it already?

What did you think after at least?

I thought the show was great and was interesting to see her so candid and free. She should really do this more often with these small stand up comedy bits where she is talking ish to everyone. Really cool. Loved the ongoing theme about gun violence and her tribute to native themes and cultures.

As well, sprinkling some hits here and there was good to keep people unfimiliar with the album (like my boyfriend interested in the show of which he even enjoyed only being a casual fan). The Frozen sequence with her daughter was beautifully captured in its full glory unedited.
Last, the part where she sat down with David Chapelle and just let him talk was awesome!


I was just starting the thread, man. I got about 75 minutes into it, then had to pause. Not went back to it yet. But I do agree with some of the comments here.

Gandorb said, " She is a bit heavy handed these days with her messages. I miss her subtlety." That sums up a lot for me about Madonna in general.

I enjoyed the MDNA tour, and yet couldn't care less about Rebel Heart (album, tour, or anything else).

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Reply #21 posted 10/11/21 12:58pm

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So I finished it.

I saw a review that said, "long on message, short on euphoria."

Sums it up for me.

The bonus for me was seeing Yahzarah as a backup singer. I loved her The Ballad of Purple St. James album about a decade ago. She has a song called "Last to Leave" that I always said, "Prince should be writing songs like this." I told her that when I interviewed her on my radio show back in 2010/11. We had a quick Q&A, and I asked her "Purple Rain or Sign O the Times." I think she chose SOTT, if memory serves.

Anyway, the show was meh, for me. There's this... excessiveness... with her shows and music of late that is just off-putting. I feel like I've lost touch with her as an artist. I've not given up on her, but I'm further back in the audience now.

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Reply #22 posted 10/11/21 3:39pm

SoulAlive

I’m gonna just wait for the blu-Ray.It’s gonna have bonus performances on it anyway.I am enjoying the live album.
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Reply #23 posted 10/11/21 4:40pm

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gandorb said:[quote]


rlittler81 said:


Not watched it yet but listened to the first few tracks on the live album. I enjoyed the show when I saw it in London so looking forward to seeing it again. She is a bit heavy handed these days with her messages. I miss her subtlety. She also seems more willing to lose control these days. Her appearance on Fallon proved that. She didn’t seem self conscious at all and just went with it. I do t always like things she does these days, but I didn’t always like some of the things Prince did later in his career. I just hope she’s happy and enjoying her hard earned success at last.



Gandorb said:

Interesting comments, but I completely was unaware that she had a subtle phase. Perhaps she had periods of being less affected than she comes across now, but she always was over the top.



Yeah,Madonna has never really been “subtle”,has she? biggrin she has always been an “extreme” performer.

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Reply #24 posted 10/12/21 5:24am

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gandorb said:

rlittler81 said:

Not watched it yet but listened to the first few tracks on the live album. I enjoyed the show when I saw it in London so looking forward to seeing it again. She is a bit heavy handed these days with her messages. I miss her subtlety. She also seems more willing to lose control these days. Her appearance on Fallon proved that. She didn’t seem self conscious at all and just went with it. I do t always like things she does these days, but I didn’t always like some of the things Prince did later in his career. I just hope she’s happy and enjoying her hard earned success at last.

Gandorb said:Interesting comments, but I completely was unaware that she had a subtle phase. Perhaps she had periods of being less affected than she comes across now, but she always was over the top.

[Edited 10/11/21 7:45am]

Compare the performance of "Erotica" from The Girlie Show to her performance of "Holy Water" from Rebel Heart Tour and you'll see what I mean. Maybe "subtlety" isn't the right word... "less obvious" maybe?

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Reply #25 posted 10/12/21 5:28am

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Finished watching it this morning. Doesn't quite capture the magic of seeing her in a tiny venue but comes close. Had a few goose-bump moments. "Come Alive" and "Extreme Occident" were both highlights when I saw the show in London, enjoyed them both on the film too. Definitely feel the show gets better from 'Batuka' onwards. Less fast cuts/edits. She seemed a bit softer as the show went on, I find the abrasiveness of the first section a bit grating. If you didn't like Madame X, you won't like this show.

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Reply #26 posted 10/12/21 8:16am

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TrivialPursuit said:

paisleypark4 said:

34 minutes out of two hours you reviewed and posted it already?

What did you think after at least?

I thought the show was great and was interesting to see her so candid and free. She should really do this more often with these small stand up comedy bits where she is talking ish to everyone. Really cool. Loved the ongoing theme about gun violence and her tribute to native themes and cultures.

As well, sprinkling some hits here and there was good to keep people unfimiliar with the album (like my boyfriend interested in the show of which he even enjoyed only being a casual fan). The Frozen sequence with her daughter was beautifully captured in its full glory unedited.
Last, the part where she sat down with David Chapelle and just let him talk was awesome!


I was just starting the thread, man. I got about 75 minutes into it, then had to pause. Not went back to it yet. But I do agree with some of the comments here.

Gandorb said, " She is a bit heavy handed these days with her messages. I miss her subtlety." That sums up a lot for me about Madonna in general.

I enjoyed the MDNA tour, and yet couldn't care less about Rebel Heart (album, tour, or anything else).

I liked how it was more a story / play than just running through a collection of songs with no real themes to say the least. However her shows have been different than the next and entertaining at least

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Reply #27 posted 10/12/21 11:13am

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rlittler81 said:

I find the abrasiveness of the first section a bit grating.


That whole opening sequence with the typewriter and the guy dancing to it is beyond annoying. Then there's a dance section to someone breathing. yawn


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Reply #28 posted 10/12/21 1:50pm

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new interview: Madonna and Maluma interview each other

Madonna & Maluma in C... - YouTube

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Reply #29 posted 10/12/21 1:58pm

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rlittler81 said:

Compare the performance of "Erotica" from The Girlie Show to her performance of "Holy Water" from Rebel Heart Tour and you'll see what I mean. Maybe "subtlety" isn't the right word... "less obvious" maybe?


I get what you're saying.

Her performance of "Erotica" was rather tame, really. Even then. But dancing on a pole, shaped like a cross, with dancers dressed as nuns-meet-can-can-girls while singing "Vogue" and "Holy Water" is beyond not subtle. It seems like shocking value for the sake of it.

What's the expression there? What's the goal? What is it saying? Is she saying Yeezus or Jesus???

I'm just waiting for her to get a pap smear or colonoscopy on stage. There's not much left.

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